Empty Seats
Perhaps it is easy to insulate yourself in an environment where you can put 92,000+ fans in the stadium for a scrimmage, but when you look around the SEC a lot of schools are having trouble filling their stadiums.
Arkansas recently played Florida International in Fayetteville for homecoming. It was a snoozer game to be sure, but nevertheless attendance was very poor. "Official" attendance was listed at 60,750, but several called BS on that one. Most independent reports, however, only have attendance at around 50,000, and some had it below that. Obviously, getting only approximately 50,000 people in a stadium that holds 72,000 is a major disappointment. The following is a picture of the stadium shortly before kick-off:
Ole Miss, too, is struggling greatly to sell tickets. Last week against Northwestern State, the Ole Miss ticket office sold 20,000 tickets to the game for $5 each. There weren't many takers. Tickets were, according to reports, being given away on the Grove for free -- though there weren't many takers for those, either -- and "official" attendance was listed as only around 25,000 people despite the fact that Vaught-Hemingway, which was foolishly expanded in 2002, holds 62,000 fans. The Clarion-Ledger, and other outlets, actually had attendance estimates below that. The following is a picture of Vaught-Hemingway Stadium during the game this past weekend:
For the Rebels, things do not seem to be getting any better. Rival LSU is coming to town next week, and ticket sales are not picking up despite the rivalry and the fact that LSU is one of the country's top teams. Fortunately for the Rebels many LSU fans will come in and eat up most, if not all, of the extra tickets, but the point remains: they can't even sell tickets to their own fans when a highly-ranked rival is coming to town.
And it's not just the conference's smaller programs, either.
Tennessee's Neyland Stadium holds well over 100,000 people. Yet for last week's homecoming game against Louisiana-Lafayette, "official" attendance listed only barely 96,000 people there, and many estimated that there was somewhere in the neighborhood of 10,000 empty seats. And even though Tennessee currently controls its own destiny in the SEC East and has a key game this weekend against a suddenly hot Arkansas team, they still can't sell out. The UT ticket office announced on Monday that they would sell tickets to the public for face value for the Arkansas game, saying that the tickets were returned tickets from Arkansas and from UT students. Now answer me this: Exactly what in the hell is going on when you can't even sell student tickets when your team is playing at home for a shot to Atlanta against a team that sports the best individual player in the country?
Auburn, too, has struggled to fill the stadium. Even the season opener against a solid out-of-conference opponent (Kansas State) did not sell out. Over 1,000 seats went unfilled for the Wildcats. The following week, there were 5,000 empty seats for South Florida, another 5,000 for Vandy, and 2,000 more for Tennessee Tech. The Iron Bowl is really the only guaranteed sell-out on the slate.
Though fortunately we're not feeling the effects in Tuscaloosa, it seems that a lot of fellow SEC teams are finding it difficult to fill their stadiums.
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empty seats
My wifes uncle who lives in Oxford, is concerned about real estate values going down, because of the awful football team, that's how serious things are there. And still he's going to get another year. It's amazing really, Cut has one bad year, and is let go, O has been nothing but terrible, and will probably stay.
by That Other Dave on Nov 7, 2007 5:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Bad idea...
As for the local economy, I don't doubt it. It's insane, but college football has a massive impact on the economy of these college towns, particularly one as small as Oxford. Just look at 'Bama, there has easily been tens of millions of dollars spent in real estate construction just for gameday condos alone. It's just a whopping impact. If the team suffers, so does the town.
As for 2008 with Orgeron, it's crazy to think he's getting another year, but it's not like they have another viable alternative to turn to. They hired him and now they have to deal with him, for better or for worse. If they could have really hired a legitimate candidate, they would have done so instead of hiring a defensive line coach from USC. And it's going to be harder to hire now, considering they are coming off of four straight losing seasons, whereas when O was hired they were just one year removed from a ten win season.
by outsidethesidelines on Nov 7, 2007 6:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone know
by SugarBowl93 on Nov 7, 2007 5:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well...
Honestly though, thankfully, we've always had great attendance even in the bad years. In 2000, for example, we even had 83,818 for the UCF game that year. The Auburn game in 2000 brought over 85,000 people, which despite being a 3-7 team was a couple thousand over capacity.
There have been some games were we'd be a thousand or two thousand shy of capacity, but 'Bama games have always been attended quite well. Every Alabama game since Tide Pride came into being in 1987 has been a sell-out, and that streak isn't going to change. We've been very fortunate in that sense. We're one of the few schools around that haven't had major problems with attendance in the down years.
by outsidethesidelines on Nov 7, 2007 7:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was at...
by BigCountry85 on Nov 7, 2007 6:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Autzen
GO DUCKS!
by oregon4life on Nov 7, 2007 8:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Cool stuff
As for the attendance of your Ducks, it has been pretty good, no doubt about that. And that's really saying something, because the Pac-10 definitely has a lot of teams that struggle to fill already small stadiums. Autzen, though, stays packed from all I can tell, and apparently it's a good gameday atmosphere.
Also, just so you know, the place looked very, very good the couple of times it has been shown on Gameday this year. It's not all that big, but it looks very good.
by outsidethesidelines on Nov 8, 2007 3:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ole Miss
by hailstate on Nov 8, 2007 12:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ole Miss...
And honestly, I th ink it's the historical struggles that are killing them. For whatever reason, those people think they are the greatest thing in the world, and Ole Miss football hasn't even been particularly competitive -- sans 2003 -- for years and years. Even the "better" days under Tuberville and Cutcliffe were basically nothing better than mediocre-at-best. Seriously, even in those years they were essentially beaten by every good team they played, and lost some upsets to some bad teams (Vanderbilt and Memphis, for example).
Honestly, aside from '03, the last truly good Ole Miss team was probably the 10-2 team that Kinard had in his first year taking over for Vaught in 1972. Billy Brewer had a couple of pretty good teams, but they were nothing great and of course they were later hammered by the NCAA for things that occurred in that era.
MSU hasn't been great, mind you, but at least they've had a couple of decent teams that have made it to Atlanta. Ole Miss is the only team in the SEC West to have never made Atlanta, and what's worse they've really only even gotten remotely close one time (2003). The funny part is how they think they are so superior to MSU when in reality that rivalry has been essentially completely even for the past two decades. In the last 16 games against the Dawgs, they are only 8-8.
The Rebs are just legends only in their own minds, and the harsh truth is that it is a very small program with a limited budget, a very small fan base, essentially no winning tradition outside of the Vaught era, and a program with a bleak looking future ahead.
by outsidethesidelines on Nov 8, 2007 2:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow..
by rolltidempd3 on Nov 8, 2007 5:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
ole miss
by tigersgeaux on Nov 9, 2007 10:37 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

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