The closest LSU should get to the National Title Game...

by Todd on Dec 2, 2007 7:37 PM CST in Football Comment 12 comments

...is playing in the Sugar Bowl a week before. Say what you will about Ohio State not deserving to be there, but they are a one loss team who's only loss came against a pretty good opponent while they managed to smother everyone else they played, and LSU struggled to win for most of the season, overlooked just about every team they played (including Tulane), and have no business being there. And yeah, I hate LSU and the entire state of Louisiana after all the hate mail we've gotten this season since you corn dog smelling coonasses can't seem to get over being jilted by Nick Saban, but this isn't sour grapes making me say LSU shouldn't be in the title game. This is watching you lose to both Kentucky and Arkansas because your hubris got the best of you. This is watching you dick around for three and a half quarters because you're LSU and you didn't think you'd have to play to win, just show up. This is watching your goober coach make boneheaded decision after boneheaded decision and get bailed out time and again by the talent level on his roster. If I had my druthers, HAWAII would be in your place, because after all the insanity and choke jobs that we've seen this season, the one team everyone gave a bunch of crap to about how they didn't play anyone (I'm sure Boise State would take humbrage at that statement), they aren't that good, and blah blah blah, is still undefeated despite falling behind in games, needing OT to win, and losing a star QB for games. For every excuse every other top ranked team over the course of the season has made for why they couldn't handle being at the top, Hawaii has faced that same adversity, and yet they still managed to come out unscathed. I'm still an opponenet of a play off system, but this year's BCS is a total load of bullshit, and the human voters should have had enough guts to put Hawaii in a spot to compete for the title after all of the BCS teams proved they weren't up to the task.

If I'm not seeing this in New Orleans, I'm not going to bother watching.

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AMEN!

I can't wait for Miles to pull some of this boneheaded nonsense with his recruiting classes. Welcome to 4th place in the west, fellas.

by Nose Guard on Dec 2, 2007 8:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

everyone says...

...well, hawaii didn't play anyone. which is true...even boise state is only mediocre. yet even though they haven't been tested, that doesn't mean they're not a good football team. they might be better than every other team in the freakin universe, or they could be only marginally better than the teams they played this year...we'll never know. but if it was osu-hawaii, and with the season we've had, my money would be on the warriors. hands down.

by joshoohahh on Dec 3, 2007 1:54 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Colt Brennan is amazing...

Were I to task you with finding a European-futbol-athlete-throws-a-ball-for-the-first-time photo could you have done better than the above?
He looks pretty spastic in that shot. Brennan deserves more. By the way, does anyone remember when Hawaii played in Tuscaloosa and they invited the voice of Hawaii football into the box. It may have been pay per view. Anyway the camera was on Brennan talking to June Jones about the next play and Brennan lost his lunch. The voice of Hawaii said that that was just something you had to get used to as a Hawaii fan. Whenever pressure came, Brennan puked. In my mind it was Tyler Watts he was talking to. Anyone remember anything like that or am I just nuts?

by TheHeffalump on Dec 3, 2007 2:42 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Even though I was...

...at the game. I remember watching the CSS replay and seeing that.

Roll Tide!

by Nico2.0 on Dec 3, 2007 9:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Hawaii

Hawaii + SEC = Kentucky

by JR on Dec 3, 2007 10:03 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I agree

I really don't think Hawaii should be in the BCS. I think Brennan is part of the system (i.e. Texas Tech), and I think Georgia will rip them a new one.

Of course, I could be so wrong. I just think they talk about respect. Well, do something about it! Play a tougher Non-conference (USC and Bama both beat them the last two years, and Bama was awful last year). Change conferences. Do something.

"FAILURE" - When your best just isn't good enough

by BamaReturns07 on Dec 3, 2007 11:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

June Jones

can kiss my ass. He put his foot in his mouth on ESPN's Bowl Special Sunday night. He said Brennan is a better overall QB than Tebow, bc Tebow is made for a specific system and Brennan can adapt and run any system. Brennan may be a good drop back passer (which the NFL is full of), but he is no Tebow. I would say Ainge at UT is as good as Brennan (based on the SEC v the WACky). RTR

I wouldn't piss off the boys from Alabama . . .

by I hate UT on Dec 3, 2007 1:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

You had me til Hawaii

I'll buy everything you said about LSU and I'm an LSU fan, but I'm going to need a better replacement team than Hawaii. If Boise State didn't make it last year when they were undefeated (and clearly a good team) I can't see how Hawaii should be considered this year.

I feel like LSU made it because there weren't strong enough arguments for anyone else. I don't know if that's good or bad, but I think at the very least you have to see that it's good for your conference to have a team, any team, playing in the NC.

I negate Hawaii as a possible option because they struggled against mediocre teams. So who does that leave? Do you think Georgia, who wasn't in the SEC Championship and lost to the team that lost the SEC Championship, should play for the title?
Or is Mizzou a better two loss team to be playing for the title?(BTW, they got screwed harder than Jenna Jamison)

Everything you say about LSU is true, but (like any good presidential election) it's the lesser of the evils and I do think they made the right choice.

by tristarscoop on Dec 3, 2007 7:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I'll agree

I'll agree with what you say.

There is no way in hell that LSU even remotely deserves to be in the national championship game, but then again no one else deserves to be there either. Ohio State is clearly the only semi-deserving team, and they are very questionable to me.

That said, LSU is the most deserving of all of the teams that in no way deserve it, if that makes any sense, so I support them being in the title game.

I just find it pathetic that any of these teams are going to be "champions." In my book, whoever wins the title in this pathetic year of college football goes down as the worst national champion ever. Really, no one deserves a national championship this year, but the system is set-up in such a way that someone, by default, has to win the title, regardless of whether or not anyone deserves it.

And for the record, if Hawai'i can somehow beat Georgia in the Sugar Bowl, I say to hell with it and split the title.

by outsidethesidelines on Dec 3, 2007 8:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Boise didn't make it...

...because there were two better teams to play for the title. Ohio State was undefeated and Florida was a damn good one loss team. This year, nobody really looks like they deserve to play for the title. Ohio State is a good(ish) one loss team, and they won their conference, so they get the nod, but everyone else has plenty of reason not to be there. Georgia? Didn't even win their division. Same for Kansas. Virginia Tech? Two losses, one of them a bare assed beat down by LSU, so they don't deserve to be ahead of them. Oklahoma? Also a two loser. Same for USC, and so on. But Hawaii? Undefeated. In a season like this it just looks to me like the only game that I won't hold my nose over would be Ohio State and Hawaii.

by Todd on Dec 3, 2007 8:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Ok

But the reason I give no credence to Hawaii is that I feel that any of the other teams in this discussion - hell any of the top 10 teams - would be undefeated if they had Hawaii's schedule. I don't feel they should get rewarded for doing exactly what they should have done. It would have been embarrassing for them should they have lost a game with their weak schedule. So since they didn't trip we're supposed to hail their undefeatedness? I'm just not buying it.

If Hawaii wants to be taken seriously, they need to play real teams and beat them. I'm certainly not going to fall all over myself for them when they haven't proved anything. They had a cakewalk and were very close to not breezing on through.

Personally, I think it says more that they struggled through their cream puff schedule than it does that they are undefeated.

by tristarscoop on Dec 3, 2007 9:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I'm not saying...

...Hawaii's schedule wasn't easy (they played only one legit team in Boise State), but they remained undefeated despite adversity while other teams that could have easily run their schedule (or, at the very least, held onto their #1 ranking, I'm looking at you West Virginia, you know, the team that lost to a suck ass terrible PITT in their season finale to fall from the top) didn't.

by Todd on Dec 3, 2007 9:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs