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Someone please help me out. When I found out about CBS picking up the Bama/LSU game for their afternoon game I was really upset. Really. This is a clinching game to win the West for Alabama, it is Alabama's last regular season away game, and I do not even need to mention the weight of Saban's return to Baton Rouge.

While I believe the time of kickoff will do nothing but help Alabama, my question is what determines what game is on what channel?

I understand CBS broadcasts SEC games, but what determines who gets what game? Does CBS get first pick of the SEC match-ups?

In a certain scenario, where votes really matter, could a 2:30 CBS game get less attention than a prime-time ESPN game that hosts Gameday? Could this hurt a SEC team's chance for national exposure? 

I understand the coachs' poll is the one that truly matters, and they all watch Sports Center for their info anyway. However, there is no coach in America that watches a game on TV before their own game on Saturday. However, I'm sure there are plenty that sit and watch the prime time game after their 12:00 or 3:30 game. 

I suppose I'm being nit-picky, and probably just upset because I have tickets to the game and was looking forward to a night in Death Valley. However, I think there are some pertinent questions that deserve a look. 

Teach me RBR...

Run the damn ball...RTR

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As a general rule, CBS gets first pick as per their contract with the SEC. They shell out the most money, and thus they get to cherry pick.

However, there are a couple of weeks out of the season that ESPN actually gets first pick. This happened previously this year when Alabama played Georgia, for example.

The pick order generally goes CBS, ESPN, Raycom, and then occasionally you might get some game on ESPN2.

by outsidethesidelines on Oct 29, 2008 9:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Don't worry

about a “national audience.” Alabama is not running for President. The people who vote can’t even watch most the games as they are coaching, writing etc. the bottom line is if we win out we will be in. There is no way Penn St. can jump us. If they didn’t jump us last week it won’t happen as long as we keep winning plus we will have to win the SEC Championship game against a top 5 BCS team in either UF or UGA and if we win that and are 13-0 we will be in for sure. What happened to Auburn a few years back was primarily because they are Auburn and nation wide they get no respect. We have been down but we are still Alabama. The worse thing about CBS is that the annoucers pull against Bama.

by 5026 on Oct 30, 2008 9:26 AM CDT reply actions  

I don't know

I feel like there’s an ever so slight chance that we get jumped, briefly, by the end of the season, assuming we take care of business with Arky St and LSU, but if we have poor showings against Croom and Tubs, that’s when if could happen. However, we should get back on track if we win the SEC. Bottom line is that if we win out, we’ll be there at the end…

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success" - Coach Bryant

by TopDaddy on Oct 30, 2008 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting

Yesterday, on JOX, someone brought up the fact that Paterno had 5 undefeated, untied teams that hadn’t been named NC. This, I assumed was common knowledge since he has been in the same conference, same school—he hasn’t exactly moved around! Anyway, they went on to say that he was “due” a NC if he won out because of all of the slights over the years and this may be his last shot. The “slight” part was not a wrinkle I had thrown into the mix so far this year. Of course, I think that is crap because nothing has changed since the other 5 slights.

Well, I get out of the car and walk into a business where the radio is on and guys are listening. BAMA guys. They are actually agreeing with the validity of Paterno getting a shot because of the 5 slights!! Not because of strength of 2008 schedule or Bama possibly winning out in the SEC AND the CG, but slights in recent decades. If Bama guys in a gas station can flip, don’t you think anything is possible with coaches and writers with no love?

Just an observation here. No real basis except fear. =) Besides, we still have a few things to take care of anyway! Like I told the guys yesterday about Paterno.

by crimsongirl on Oct 30, 2008 10:21 AM CDT reply actions  

Here's the way I see that...

How many pollsters have forgotten about us beating 2 top 10 teams? Most of them! They are stuck on close wins against Ole Miss and UK, and unimpressed by beating UT. It’s a “what have you done for me lately” type mentality. All that to say… Penn St closes out their regular season Nov. 22, if we make it to the SECC, that will leave us with two more games AFTER they have completed their season, plenty of time for them to be forgotten, so as I stated above, bottom line is that if we win out, we SHOULD be in.

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success" - Coach Bryant

by TopDaddy on Oct 30, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just checked

Wikipedia (so take it with a grain of salt) and I counted four undefeated, untied years without NC’s. Including back to back in ’68 and ’69. Damn, that stings. I wonder what the back story is on that deal? Maybe super-weak schedules in their independent days.

by BamerinBR on Oct 30, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

My info wasn't much more reliable...

Penn St. official website. Wanted to be sure there was AT LEAST a written record before I typed it. Statement was “….2 NC and 5 undefeated, untied seasons…” in reference to Paterno’s accomplishments as a coach. You can probably dig deeper there and see the strength of those schedules, if you are a stats-geek who can retain that kind of long-term memory of teams quality for decades. (BTW, that is admiration for those who do, not an insult!) I have an obnoxious Penn St. association on another site I will ask about it and get back. I will NOT burden all of you with him!

by crimsongirl on Oct 30, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I think they definitely

Consider ‘94 a NC year along with ’86, which is the widely recognized one. They really don’t have a debate concerning the ‘68 one, since they didn’t play a team all year that would appear in the final AP poll. ‘73 is about the same, as they just started too low, and the teams ahead of them just never lost until the end, so it would be hard to crown them on that one too. But the ’69 one is kinda strange because they were #2 behind Texas for a few weeks leading up to bowl season, and didn’t get a chance to play the Horns for the NC, and therefore got left out when Texas beat then #9 Notre Dame.

If someone knows how they used to set up the bowl games, please let me know, because as I look back at pre-BCS seasons, it seems there was no rhyme or reason to the bowl matchups. #1 rarely played #2 it seemed, and therefore #2 seemed to get left out of the share for the NC many times. My only guess is that bowls were set up much the way they are now, by conference affiliation. Is that the way it was back then?

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success" - Coach Bryant

by TopDaddy on Oct 30, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Often...

…1 and 2 did not play due to conference affiliations with bowls. For years, the SEC winner went to the Sugar, Pac 10 and Big 10 met in the Rose (after 1946, the last time a Bama team went out west and humiliated another Pac 10 opponent), Southwest Conference champ went to the Cotton, Big 8 champ to the Orange. The bowls have also always been political and focused on the $$$, so I’m guessing Texas played ND that year because it was a sexier matchup and would bring in more cake, since Penn State was not yet part of the Big 10.

by NiceLittleSaturday on Oct 30, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's...

…worry about it after we’re 13-0.

by NiceLittleSaturday on Oct 30, 2008 10:24 AM CDT reply actions  

Right you are!

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success" - Coach Bryant

by TopDaddy on Oct 30, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree!

All of this will seem stupid if we don’t even go, right? Think I will just go around today with an idiot grin about our 8-0 while I can still use it, and save the frowning for December, IF it comes to that! Thanks for the reminder, NLS.

by crimsongirl on Oct 30, 2008 11:33 AM CDT reply actions  

Auburn

Don’t forget, the reason that Auburn didn’t go in 2004 was because of their schedule. They shot themselves in the foot by scheduling LA-Monroe, The Citadel and LA Tech all in one season. They probably could’ve gotten away with one or even two of those teams on the schedule and still gone to the BCS NC.

Plus, perhaps due to the schedule, Auburn never received enough votes to EVER make it to the top 2 spots in the BCS rankings.

I dare say our schedule is much stronger this year than Auburn’s in ‘04. And, we are already sitting at No. 2. So, we are in a much better position. I agree with those who say if we win out, we’re in. I don’t see any way that doesn’t happen.

Dr. BamaFrazier is IN!

by BamaFrazier on Oct 30, 2008 11:51 AM CDT reply actions  

Barners

I remember thinking what dunces the Barners proved themselves to be, the year they all complained so loudly in the early part of the season about maybe getting slighted by the BCS. Then the team, with a couple of losses, helped make that worry irrelevant. We don’t want to act like Barners.

marycontrary

by adeleswims on Oct 30, 2008 1:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Does

Anyone know how many times we were undefeated and did not get the NC? I know it has happened but cant get a handle on when it was.

I am a member of the Sabanation Roll!!Tide!!

by lawbama1 on Oct 31, 2008 8:18 AM CDT reply actions  

I Beleive....

1966 is the only year Bama was undefeated and not voted the NC. Notre Dame and Michigan State tied and did not go to a bowl game, yet ND was voted No. 1.
in 1977, Alabama was no. 3 before the bowl games and beat no. 4 Ohio State in the Sugar Bowl. ND was no. 5 and beat no. 1 Texas in the Cotton Bowl. When the no. 2 team (Michigan?) lost in the Rose Bowl, ND jumped Alabama to the NC.
The 1973 and 1974 seasons saw Alabama go undefeated untill losing to ND by 1 or 2 points in the bowl games. Alabama got the UPI championship in 1973 because their final poll came out before the bowls. We really should not count that year as one of our 12 championships, but since we missed out on the others, I guess it’s ok.

by bama1 on Oct 31, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

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