Two Dead Following Alabama v. LSU Football Argument

Some sad news this morning out of Escambia... Apparently after the end of the Alabama v. LSU game, an LSU fan called a 'Bama fan, and an argument ensued. Eventually the argument reached the point to where the LSU fan came to the 'Bama fan's house, the argument further escalated, and the LSU fan went to his truck to get a gun. The 'Bama fan then grabbed a shotgun and killed the LSU fan. At that point, the wife of the now dead LSU fan threatened to shoot the 'Bama fan, at which point she herself was shot and killed. The 'Bama fan has since been arrested and charged with murder.

Alcohol, naturally, is believed to be a factor.

What can you even say? I mean, seriously folks, it's just a damn meaningless game.

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Recipe for a shitstorm

1. Alcohol
2. Emotions running high
3. Taunting
4. Firearms
5. Collective IQ of 160

by Stuck in the Plains on Nov 10, 2008 10:24 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

thats terrible

i really hate that this happened.

Hell, no! A tie is like kissing your sister!

by comer4tide on Nov 10, 2008 10:41 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

That's crazy

Got to tell you, though — putting the football thing aside — if you come to my house and threaten me with a pistol, you’ll find yourself carrying buckshot in your gut too.

Dr. BamaFrazier is IN!

by BamaFrazier on Nov 10, 2008 11:17 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Why do I get the feeling that the football game was just the latest excuse for these two “neighbors” to fight?

Something tells me these two weren’t particularly chummy prior to the game.

by PeteHoliday on Nov 10, 2008 11:39 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

yep...

and add in a little smack-talking and/or challenge of manhood to boot.
1. Shooter calls vic (LSU folks) at 7:00 pm
2. Vic shows up at Shooter’s house…
3. Redneckery ensues.

by Stuck in the Plains on Nov 10, 2008 11:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Redneckery

Love that word.

Auburn fans are like slinkys... not really good for anything but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.

by IHC800 on Nov 10, 2008 1:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I like it too.

Maybe change that Amy Winehouse lyric around…

Instead of “What kind of fuckery is this?” you could have “What kind of redneckery is this?”

Me & Mr. Jones (NSFW: language…obviously)

RollBamaRoll.com

by Nico2.0 on Nov 10, 2008 9:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Did the LSU

fan call the Bama fan? Did the LSU fan go to the Bama fans house? Did the LSU fan go for his gun annoucing his intentions? If he did all these things then he is stupid and his wife is stupid too for threating a guy who is clearly a killer.

Of course the killer is a just a killer and will spend the rest of his life in jail.

But stupidity will eventually get stupid people killed.

by 5026 on Nov 10, 2008 4:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Maybe...

You certainly cannot say anything definitively because we really don’t have the necessary facts, but if the LSU fan came over and started everything by pulling the gun, then it was probably a classic situation of self defense. I cannot imagine a more sure-fire self defense hypothetical than someone coming onto someone else’s property pointing around a loaded gun.

However, considering that the authorities were so quick to charge him with murder, my gut instinct tells me that there are some aggravating factors that we don’t know about. Perhaps the LSU fan’s gun wasn’t loaded, or perhaps he was just brandishing it without ever showing an intention to shoot.

One way or the other, I’m sure there is much more to this than meets the eye.

by outsidethesidelines on Nov 10, 2008 5:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

So, Spaketh OTS...

“I cannot imagine a more sure-fire self defense hypothetical than someone coming onto someone else’s property pointing around a loaded gun.”

Be careful for that Bar exam, my man ;)

by Stuck in the Plains on Nov 10, 2008 5:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

As any legal scholar will tell you,

the viability of a self defense claim depends on whether he “drug ’em back in the house” before he called the police.

I mean, that’s first year law school stuff right?

by Nick's Hat Band on Nov 10, 2008 7:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

It would be...

unless you were in Texas where “Did he need killin’?” is an affirmative defense, with a burden shifter the State to prove the miserable SOB didn’t need perforating!

by Stuck in the Plains on Nov 10, 2008 7:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Lol...

Indeed.

by outsidethesidelines on Nov 10, 2008 7:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Really. I can't understand the wife

threatening the guy. She had clearly just seen this dude had a tendancy to respond to similar threats in an incredibly violent and decisive manner. There has to be more to this that hasn’t come out yet.

But even knowing as little as I do, I have to agree, this is not about football. It’s alcohol-fueled redneckery of the highest order. I hope there aren’t any kids involved.

by Nick's Hat Band on Nov 10, 2008 7:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed...

You would think after you’ve watched someone kill your boyfriend / husband that you would know that they mean business; I cannot imagine how rationally someone would still be trying to agitate the situation after that.

I may be wrong, but surely that decision had to be alcohol related. Hopefully no sober person, even those to the highest degree of redneckery, would be that dumb.

by outsidethesidelines on Nov 10, 2008 7:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

shouldn't that read

instead of “boyfriend/husband”….“boyfriend/husband/cousin/daddy?”

Seriously, this is fucking disgusting. I was talking to one of my Iowa alumni buddies today, and he asked why the SEC doesn’t play for trophies. I replied, well, we play for them, they’re just called the Darwin Awards.

by Stuck in the Plains on Nov 10, 2008 7:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs