Programming Note: The RBR Radio Hour(ish) is Kaput...
...at least for now, anyway. I e-mailed NowLive about the technical difficulites and haven't heard back from them yet, so no make up show this week. If things don't get sorted out in time for next week, we'll figure something else out (talkshoe, perhaps?). Anyway, since we didn't have the show and didn't get a chance to talk about the LSU game, I wanted to throw out a couple of points that I intended to make, namely about the commentators and John Parker Wilson's performance.
First off, I really don't care what commentators say or don't say about the Tide and for the most part think that every fan base feels like the talking heads are biased against their team, so lighten up already. What does it matter what they say about the team? They don't influence the game, we control our own destiny as far as the polls and BCS picture goes, and so long as we take care of what really matters on the field then they can talk about how Alabama shouldn't be #1 or that Florida/Texas Tech/Whoever are better, and blah blah blah and it doesn't make a lick of difference. But I do agree that Gary Danielson and Verne Lundquist are two of the worst commentators in college football for the simple fact that they seem to have a willful lack of concern about who they are commenting on. In '05 when we were on CBS nearly every week, they still managed to mangle Brodie Croyle's name despite having announced games he played in for weeks and weeks and weeks. He was every imaginable combination of letters that they could mangle out of his name, from Crodie Broyle, to Codie Boyle, to Bodie Coyle, to whatever. An occasional slip of the tongue is fine, but if we went back to those games and counted up the number of times they mispronounced the kids name I'd be happy to wager they got it right less than 50% of the time. And they haven't gotten any better, either. Marquis Maze is referred to as "Marks" repeatedly during the Ole Miss game, despite "MAZE" being clearly displayed on his jersey. They routinely claim that Julio Jones is sitting on the sidelines despite being clearly on the field because Chris Rogers, who also wears #8, is on the sidelines. They even zoomed in on him to show that Jones was on the sideline and, even though "ROGERS" was clearly displayed on his nameplate, they kept wondering why Julio wasn't on the field. Against LSU they pronounced Jim McElwain's name "McKellan." During the Ole Miss game they referred to Ole Miss safety Jamarca Sanford as Alabama LB Corey Reamer, both of whom wear #13. That's all just off the top of my head from this season, and I'm sure you can all chime in with some more in the comments. Now, I know these complaints may seem seem nitpicky, but how hard is it to learn the names and the correct way to pronounce them of at least the starters for the teams you are covering over the course of a week? I have to imagine it isn't that hard since no other commentators seem to have the same kind of troubles. I mean, does the bumbling duo show up five minutes before the game and then handed a roster for each team and microphones and told to ad lib the whole game? 'Cause if that's the case, it's understandable, and kudos to you, good sirs, for dealing with such horrible broadcasting conditions. But I really doubt that's the case, and I honestly think that the way they act is both unprofessional and disrespectful to the players and coaches for the teams they are covering. So when you hear me gripe about being on CBS (which we probably will be one more time this season for the Iron Bowl), it's not because I think Verne and Danielson are out to "get" Alabama like so many other fans, it's just that I think they are lazy and unprofessional and shouldn't be allowed to cover games unless they can do so without exposing their ignorance of the teams they are covering.
With all that said, let's move on to Wilson's performance against LSU. The numbers aren't great:
The stats chart doesn't show INTs, unfortunately, but we all know there was one, and honestly it wasn't an error on Wilson's part. I can't find a clip of it on YouTube, but if you'll recall it was essentially the same "fade-stop" back shoulder throw that Harrell and Crabtree made famous against Texas, but that Alabama has been using with Julio Jones since at least as far back as the Kentucky game. This time, though, it was a throw to Marquis Maze, a relatively dimunitive wide receiver (he's listead as 5'9" 171lbs), and he flat got out physicaled by LSU CB Patrick Peterson (...who's listed at 6'1" 205 lbs, so, duh).
Honestly, I don't know where I'm going with this, but I did want to make the point last night that, even with the INT and even though he didn't put up solid numbers completion percentage wise (which, the drops didn't help), I still think Wilson had a pretty good game and I keep going back to Danielson droning on and on about how "at some point, John Parker Wilson is going to have to win a game for Alabama, and I don't know if he can do it." Now, I may be mistaken here, but hasn't John Parker Wilson won games for Alabama? Hasn't he hit the big plays when we needed them and not made the kind of boneheaded errors that cost games last season? Against LSU, wasn't he the guy that made something out of completely nothing on the opening drive to set up what should have been 1st and goal inside the three if not for a poor decision to stretch for the EZ by Earl Alexander? Didn't he drive Alabama into field goal range (twice) to get the go ahead score in regulation, only to see Tiffin miss what should have been easy scores? Isn't he the one that hit Julio to set up the game winning score (who took the ball in, again? Was it Wilson?) in OT? Yeah, it was. I know that Wilson isn't Graham Harrell or Tim Tebow or Colt McCoy or insert Big 12 QB with ridiculous completion percentages here, but when it comes down to it he's won just as many games as any of them (well, more actually, except for Harrell), and he hasn't had to put up ridiculous numbers to do it. Just my two cents, and I would have loved to get y'all's comments in the chat and the calls, but this will just have to do. Hopefully we'll get things sorted out next week and can talk about another win.
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Yep and yep
Wilson was fine against LSU and has only made a handful of head-scratching decisions all season. And while I don’t expect Harrell/Bradford type numbers on Saturday, I have a feeling we’re gonna see a very inspired offense. Between the 2 straight losses and everyone and their brother pointing out that Bama hasn’t scored on the Dogs since the Coolidge administration, my gut tells me thine cup will runneth over. To which I say, “Amen.”
BTW, I’d like to point out that PJ Fitzgerald had an awesome game against LSU. Great punts all game long, consistently pinning the Tigers deep in their own territory. PJ went from a liability early in the year to quietly becoming one of the team’s overachievers.
"That rug really tied the room together."
by pantsfucious on
Nov 13, 2008 10:01 PM CST
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Danielson
Danielson was on Finebaum the other day, and I have to say that I have a little more respect for Gary. He does the games the way he wants to and he doesn’t apologize for it. I might not always agree with what he says, or get upset when Verne mangle everyone’s names, but he does know what he’s talking about overall.
by haybeav on
Nov 13, 2008 10:41 PM CST
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Danielson and Verne
Danielson is the best analyst in college football. I think there is no one that studies film more than Danielson, and he does a great job of breaking down the game. He usually makes at least two great points a game. Of course, he is also able to make stupid comments that make you scratch your head.
I will agree that Verne’s inability to learn the names of players (Rolando “McCain” McClain) is annoying, but Verne has a great ability to just shut up and let the moment speak for itself. He does a good job of not talking over the action, a problem too many color commentators have.
by Kenny483 on
Nov 14, 2008 6:32 AM CST
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No respect
I’d rather Rodney Dangerfield. Danielson is such a pompous jerk. I fail to see why anyone would respect him for being a jerk and not apologizing for same. Even Verne called him on dreaming up yet another scenario which would have Bama blowing a play during the LSU telecast. He’s the worst kind of fool—thinks he’s knows it all, so how can he learn anything? We mute them and turn on Eli Gold till we just can’t stand being 5 seconds worth of prescient any longer. Those 2 make ESPN’s heads look like a cross between Einstein and Miss Congeniality.
marycontrary
by adeleswims on
Nov 13, 2008 11:14 PM CST
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I’m going to continue to pound at the analysts for not taking Bama seriously. So what happens if MSU is dropped hard or shut out? “Oh, they were a bad team anyway!” What happens if they win? “Bama’ll never win out ever!” What’ll happen if Bama curbstomps Florida? “It was Florida’s game to lose and they did.”
There’s no credit there for our Crimson Tide and I’m getting rather tired of it.
It’s a bit like being a Falcons fan this year. We’re doing well, we’re tied for second in the NFC South and could possibly make playoffs…but do we get any respect? Not much. The talking heads are just now starting to wake up for us. At least they’re actually picking Atlanta to win games mid-way through the season after a 6-3 start. The Crimson Tide has been winning like the Crimson Tide. In the trenches. That’s how it’s always been done.
We win. It may not look pretty. It may not be full of style. It may not feature a heisman candidate, but by God we win.
In all of Alabama history, we’ve never had a Heisman trophy winner. Why? We play as a team. Everyone does their part. We win as a team, we lose as a team. That’s more than can be said for other teams around the country.
And I’m done. Off to bed to dream of sugarplumps and Croom’s head on a stick.
ROLL TIDE!
"The nice thing about supporting a bedraggled-cum-decent team? Watching all those analysts eat their words."
by tlozwarlock on
Nov 14, 2008 12:09 AM CST
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I don't care about respect until we deserve it
It’s like Saban says, we’ve accomplished a lot, but we’re by no means there. Everyone put Texas in the NC game, and look what happened. People thought Penn State would sneak in there (they’re better than Bama anyway, right)…look what happened. Let everyone build up a team before they actually win the thing, and watch them fall.
On the flip side, as lawbama1 referenced, look at 1992. No respect at all, even at the NC kickoff, but we got all the respect afterwards – Bama blew them away and there was no doubting who was the better team. People look back on that team, and they see an offense that got the job done. They see the best defense college football has seen in the last 20 years. The respect will come at the right time, and if we lose the NC game or fail to make it there, then weren’t the analysts right to begin with? Patience.
I bleed crimson and white...I puke Vol puke orange. RTR
by SugarBowl93 on
Nov 14, 2008 7:36 AM CST
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JP...
also had that 30-yard TD run that would have won it in regulation had it not been called back for holding.
And if I have to hear Rolando McCAIN one more time I’m going to break my television.
by rugman11 on
Nov 14, 2008 12:17 AM CST
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One thing to say
See 1992 Bama playing sound ball control football good defense some close games and uhhhhhh……. there is a Florida team blowing everyone out. Gonna meet in the SEC Champ game. Then there is this dinamo offensive team. TT , Texas , Oklahoma gonna come in and just blow out Bama(Florida) and yeas if we loose to Florida i am hoping they get in the champ game and just give that Big 12 Team a skull dragging cause I am tired of the hype for those guys. I mean come on they face no spead at all. The SEC has a huge advantage on the edge and at the corners and safety positions. O sorry back to my point I was just saying very similar to our last run guys.
I am a member of the Sabanation Roll!!Tide!!
by lawbama1 on
Nov 14, 2008 5:25 AM CST
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that is the douchiest picture ever...
RBR's KING of HIP-HOP...
by SpockJenkins on
Nov 14, 2008 6:31 AM CST
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