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There are few tasks of the countless things I have to do to stay on top of things here at Navy that bring more satisfaction to me than reading Roll Bama Roll. However, something occured in the last 24 hours that has created some concern for me.

Stated, is the Roll Bama Roll Guideline:
This is primarily an Alabama blog for Alabama fans, but we talk about all kinds of stuff from football in general to the music and movies we like, so you’re welcome to do the same. But in everything you comment on or post, remember, the anonymity of the internet does not give you license to be rude. Secondly, let’s remember that there are a lot of different people that root for the Tide, and therefor a lot of different people are reading this blog. Profanity is occasionally acceptable, but for the most part we want to keep things PG-13 around here, and any sort of racist/sexist/homophobic or just plain hateful comments will be deleted immediately.
It’s important that I say this is not an attack of the overseers of this site at all. They give all of us great material to read everyday, and provide a great outlet for us to share.
With that being said, I feel that it is important to point out something that occurred on this site recently.
Yesterday, someone by the name of “Brutus” posted an “I Hate Nick Saban” rant as a FANpost. While some of the comments on that post became borderline “R” rated (including mine, in which I referred to “Brutus” as an “unimaginative whore”), most were entertaining and in good taste. However when I woke up this morning, I saw that the post had been deleted. (If Brutus himself took down the blog, then everyone can stop reading here)
This made me ask myself a few questions.
Why do we blog? While I can’t speak for all of us, I know that I blog because I’m passionate about my team. ESPN.com just doesn’t do it for me. I need to read some passion, and be able to share my own.
Why do we NOT blog? I’m confident none of us blog to see what collection of profanity we can couple together to prove points. I feel that none of us blog to get into shouting matches with others. I’m also sure that none of us blog to read the same things we can get from the national sports outlets.
When I first read the post, I honestly figured it was on the RBR members trying to get a stir out of the fanbase during the off week. If that was the case, well done.
IF that was not the case, I feel that some imaginary boundary might have been crossed. We take down posts because we don’t like what they say now? SB Nation is designed for fans to join all the sites they want.
Let people write what they want, or change the guidelines to say that this is strictly for Bama fans and positive Bama words only.
Yes, I understand he was a “troll” or whatever. That he had never posted anywhere else, and he was just looking to “start a fight”, but did you see the comments? We handled it superbly! The word “classy” might even be an understatement. It was a testament to the fanbase, and therefore to the program itself.
But that’s all gone now. It’s all pro-Bama on this site. No arguments here.
You have Opinions? Sure, as long as they don’t get too many disagreements.
I understand this is not too big of a deal, but I suppose I’m more concerned about where the line will be drawn in censoring of FANposts (They’re called FANposts for a reason).
Let us defend our beliefs and our team! If the random posting becomes a trend, then that can be another bridge we can cross but until then let thoughts and opinions be shared!
Ok, I’m done now. I just had to get that off my chest. I love this site, and appreciate everyone who contributes to it. I hope that, if anything, this will spark a conversation about the topic, or at the very least cause someone to think twice before deleting another non-offensive post.
Roll Tide Roll!
FanPosts are just that; posts created by the readers of this site. They are in no way indicicative of the opinions of SBN and the authors of Roll Bama Roll.
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Don't Feed The Trolls
It’s a long-held maxim of internet message boards, IRC channels, and blogs.
I didn’t see the post, but it sounds to me like a archetypal “troll” post, and while I can’t speak for the Mods here, I can say that the biggest detriment to these is not the one-time argument it causes… it’s the incentive for other would-be trolls to come crap in our virtual living room.
After all… Brutus could have joined the LSU blog or cow college blog down the road and his post would’ve been met with open arms. He posted it here to get a reaction and, from the sounds of things, we gave him just what he was looking for.
I don’t support the deletion of reasoned disagreement, but I’m a big fan of not tolerating trolls.
by PeteHoliday on
Nov 19, 2008 9:55 AM CST
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I didn't read this guys thread but
I think all troll post should be deleted. If their intent is to stir the pot, then their “opinion” is invalid. Especially when they post outlandish crap, then don’t even come back to defend their original statement. If i wanted to read crap like that id join some second rate forum but we are better than that here. Im all about letting people express their opinion but only as it promotes a good discussion. If it’s point is to piss people off, delete it and move on.
When you are an Alabama fan you have to hate Auburn, I hate Tennessee because i want to.
by bammer on
Nov 19, 2008 9:55 AM CST
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Id also like to add
I don’t want this come out sounding like im a prune or that i have something stuck far up my rear end but the language on this site as gotten a little out of hand. I know i have spewed some expletives in the past but im trying much harder not to sound….brash.
I use to invite guys all the time to come to this site but i haven’t done that in a while. Mainly due to the fact that i know they would probably be offended by the “style” of some of the poster here. Its especially bad on game threads. I don’t want anyone banned for using descriptive writing but i think a harder stance on this issue would be appreciated. We have to remember there are young people coming and reading this blog all the time. I know i wouldn’t want my daughter reading some of the stuff posted on here.
Im not trying to judge here, just a word to the wise.
When you are an Alabama fan you have to hate Auburn, I hate Tennessee because i want to.
by bammer on
Nov 19, 2008 10:04 AM CST
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I'm the same way, Bammer
I’ve got a ton of friends that I would love to find this site and enjoy it, but I have not pointed them here for precisely that reason. Call me a prude if you like, but I’ve thought many times about just giving up reading the site because of things that were said that were simply over the top. I keep coming back though, because this is the best source of info about the Tide on the internet, but if it were more “all-audience friendly,” I know I could get a ton more readers to come to the site, and I’d be much more comfortable here myself.
As for trolls, kick ‘em out! It is easy to identify a respectful rival fan who wants to offer a different perspective on football vs. a troll who just wants to make everyone mad and then laugh at our comments. “I hate Saban” = Troll…no doubt about it, even though I didn’t read the post. I think the MODs are good about allowing different ones on, and I approve of them making sure the conversation remains intelligent instead of degenerating into a five-year-old argument about who is better than who, and who hates who more.
I bleed crimson and white...I puke Vol puke orange. RTR
by SugarBowl93 on
Nov 19, 2008 10:32 AM CST
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Thats why we are fans...
I like when people talk trash about Bama. I don’t want to be in fantasy world where I think everyone loves us. I don’t want to be boxed up from the outside. Come on. IMO let them post what they want as long as its mostly PG-13. I think its stupid that you can have your opinion deleted or even worse be banned from a site for saying 2 words. (yeah im banned from conquest chronicles for saying “Go Beavers”. HAHA)
by BAMA.13 on
Nov 19, 2008 10:15 AM CST
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This is for Todd, Nico, and OTS to decide
I have been visiting this site reguarly for several years. Yes, even during the off season when only a few people would ever post things (what happened to my buddy Chalkdust). Most of the names I see on here now are relatively new, unless they changed usernames during the switch to the new format. I find this site entertaining and informative and a great distraction from grading papers. Some posts are out of hand, but his is typical. We used to have a guy named VolTerry come on here all the time and once Todd or Nico got onto me about being quite rude to him and I totally respected that and have since never been in attack mode on the web. If they want to take something down, well they invest a lot of time in this and it is their right.
I wouldn't piss off the boys from Alabama . . .
by I hate UT on
Nov 19, 2008 10:17 AM CST
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$.02 here
I read the post and laughed at it. I felt it was either someone stirring everyone up or troll who was jealous. It was humorous to me, but I would not have let my child read it. It wasn’t something appropriate for her age. Unfortunately, I cannot let her read many of the things on here until I proof them first (she is VERY interested in the fanshot pics and videos).
I feel like the members, however, handled it very well, for whatever that is worth. I read it last night when there were several comments, and I liked the way everyone responded for the most part. Giving Bear’s employment record was classic! Apparently, trolls are going to come on the boards, and it just seemed like this was an effective way to deal with it. Not giving them the anger they desired, but rational and well-thought out comments. Also, if I HAD felt offended, I would simply not click on that fanpost anymore. They rotate off pretty quickly on RBR, so I wouldn’t even have to look at the heading for more than a few days.
Like I say, just my opinion. I think you guys do a great job. I didn’t plan on reading the POST again, anyway. Maybe the comments?
by crimsongirl on
Nov 19, 2008 10:37 AM CST
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I'm the one that took it down...
….because it was nothing but the kind of poorly thought out vitriol you always get from trolls and had no place staying in the fanposts with the well thought out things you guys come up with. I read the comments, and y’all handled it perfectly, so kudos to you all for not “feeding the troll”, so to speak. But, like I said, it was nothing but a post to try and stir us up (and not even a good one), so I deleted it.
by Todd on
Nov 19, 2008 10:43 AM CST
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todd, you can call on me again
if you want
Hell, no! A tie is like kissing your sister!
by comer4tide on
Nov 19, 2008 11:34 AM CST
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Todd & I have talked about this some...
…and we both agreed that it’s really difficult for us (including OTS) to police this site 24-7. We all work demanding jobs and have personal lives and the site has gotten big enough where it’s hard to monitor all that is going on. If none of us log on for several hours there could literally be dozens, if not hundreds of new comments (and a ton of new fanposts/fanshots) depending on the time of day or what’s going on with the team newswise. I personally think some things have gotten out of hand as well and we’re working on a way to try to fix that. It’s never really been anything we’ve talked about, but I’ve seen that other large SBN sites have “mods” in addition to the site authors and maybe we need to go that route as well. I’d like to hear y’all’s thoughts on that before we make any moves though.
by Nico2.0 on
Nov 19, 2008 12:57 PM CST
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I think thats a great idea
It would have to be the right people of course. Don’t want some power junkie deleting or banning people just because. But a few mods would be very helpful.
When you are an Alabama fan you have to hate Auburn, I hate Tennessee because i want to.
by bammer on
Nov 19, 2008 1:32 PM CST
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"..deleting or banning people just because.."
Isn’t that the roll of the mod? Last week on Dawg Sports, the guys from TET were banned for things other than profanity. Not that I am in agreement or disagreement, but it seemed like a case of “banning people just because.” Then they were back a few hours later.
Discussions get heated, even here. If they are allowed to run their course, they usually work themselves out because no one can come to blows on a blog! You HAVE to talk it out or walk away. It seems like banning someone in the middle of it would just be pouring gasoline on the fire. Editing an inappropriate comment? Absolutely! Even let them know that they can re-post once they re-word it. I just agree that it would take a very SPECIAL person to be a mod.
by crimsongirl on
Nov 19, 2008 2:02 PM CST
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Just because
Would reference, “i don’t like you so your banned” or “you just made me look stupid in an argument for gone”.
When you are an Alabama fan you have to hate Auburn, I hate Tennessee because i want to.
by bammer on
Nov 19, 2008 2:20 PM CST
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i really need to proof read
edit*** “You just made me look stupid in an argument” So you’re gone.
When you are an Alabama fan you have to hate Auburn, I hate Tennessee because i want to.
by bammer on
Nov 19, 2008 2:21 PM CST
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But don’t you think there is a great chasm in between that line “banned just because” and “allowed to post?” That is what would concern me. I don’t believe that I have ever used profanity, I would have to check that, so it isn’t ME being banned I am concerned about. It is the content of the posts. Would that change if someone were allowed to delete or ban if they felt it wasn’t appropriate?
Here is an example: Personally, I cannot even watch a few seconds of the redneck Alabama fan. He is an embarrassment. I would not want my daughter watching this person. I hope (and am pretty sure) no member of my family watches this person. I would NOT delete or ban this post or even ask that it be banned, because this is simply my OPINION and other people obviously enjoy this individual. I do not have to view it.
I am not saying that a mod couldn’t be impartial, just that it would take someone very special to be able to separate their personal feelings from their duties. The Dawg Sports incident was an example of that.
by crimsongirl on
Nov 19, 2008 4:18 PM CST
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think we are saying the same thing...
i think.
When you are an Alabama fan you have to hate Auburn, I hate Tennessee because i want to.
by bammer on
Nov 20, 2008 9:20 AM CST
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Now that we have expanded on it,
I believe we are too! I think it is nice to put it out here for everyone else to think about and comment on or just ridicule, whatever.
I really love this site b/c it is where I come on breaks from my online coursework, which is OFTEN!! If the quality were to change, I would be personally effected. This is the BEST site. It is all very selfish really. =)
by crimsongirl on
Nov 20, 2008 10:11 AM CST
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howabout an "NSFW" forum
or something in addition to fanposts/shots where trolls can troll, then get abused, and where people like myself can cuss with impunity? seeing some of these comments makes me realize i’ve probably offended some people in here w/ my language in the past (i’m sorry and i dont want to be one of the reasons people feel they cant let their kids come here)…. i know it’s not ya’lls job (nico, todd, and OTS) to provide me and others like me with a place to have fun and cuss, but other boards or forums all suck. thats why i’ve been comming to this site for 2 or more years. it’s a great place for info ( I love OTS’s breakdowns, esp in the offseason doldrums), and a great place for comments and interaction w other bama fans… the tidesports and al.com forums look ugly and are super lame, ESPN is a joke, and ultimatesportsboards is a bunch of A holes with like 2 sec fans it it, and they talk about NFL half the time….. RBR and EDSBS are the only two places on the webs i enjoy visiting…. cant there be some happy middle ground? i for one saw the post yesterday and was going to comment on it when i had time. some trolls are just plain stupid and dont deserve a response, but sometimes it’s just good ol fashioned fun to flame war w people…
by tempebamafan on
Nov 19, 2008 4:43 PM CST
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Tempe don't feel bad!
Even if people were to lay off of the profanity, this site is definitely not designed with children in mind! To start with,a lot of the blog links on the left-hand side pride themselves on their f-bombs. This would be the launch pad for a child’s profanity trip. Then there are the youtube clips that display the other clips along the bottom. Many of those are not suited for children. Also, since adults have access to “chat,” I would not allow my under 12 child on this site without me sitting right beside her. I would hope other parents wouldn’t either. It definitely isn’t a “safe site” for children, as it is designed for the free exchange of ideas between adults.
That is NOT an insult to RBR. It is just a reminder to parents that many places on the internet are not designed for children.
by crimsongirl on
Nov 19, 2008 5:38 PM CST
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EDSBS is perfect for you...
ALL language is ok on that site because Orson himself says anything and everything. I don’t consider RBR to be the same kind of forum. I also don’t consider it a forum for children, but get real – these kids have heard worse in school, in the neighborhood, and in their music.
"I hate everything orange"
It's all about Crimson - ROLL TIDE!!!
by bamavicki on
Nov 19, 2008 6:43 PM CST
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I think it's a good idea Nico
but really, other than trolls (who appropriately get deleted most of the time), the folks that regularly comment on this blog are mature enough to know where the line is and not cross it if there is some semblance of a standard set for the site. Everyone think back to the stuff that’s been deleted over the past few months. That’s the stuff that is over the line – it’s that easy. New folks may come and begin posting inappropriate stuff, and that may require a bit of “policing” as you say, but really, if all the regulars set a decent tone for the site, the new folks will in most cases not go beyond it. If bringing additional MODs in works well, by all means do it. But I think it simply gets back to everyone on here thinking before they post.
I bleed crimson and white...I puke Vol puke orange. RTR
by SugarBowl93 on
Nov 19, 2008 5:52 PM CST
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i has been my experience that the best way to deal with trolls as a member of a site is to 1) ignore them and 2) contribute worthy material.
i frequent RBR because i appreciate the level of discourse here and it enriches my enjoyment of being a fan of the Crimson Tide. i have no interest in taking part in a completely anarchistic type of site where every discussion disintergrates into a tsunami of ad hominem epithets highlighted by the ever eloquent “you suck!” every so often for subtle emphasis.
there certainly is a balance between trolling and heated disagreement – particularly in the perview of the upcoming rivalry game. check out the i hate auburn thread over at dawg sports for one example on how to handle it. but, bottom line, it’s a tough call each and every time and the guys who run this site handle pretty well overall.
but, i also applaud posts like this that raise the question and provide input from us participants as well. todd and nico might make the decisions on how things are done but, in the end, the site is a reflection of the community that participates in it. these kinds of threads help us make our feelings on these issues much clearer for all involved.
by kleph on
Nov 19, 2008 1:10 PM CST
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disintergrates into a tsunami of ad hominem
Check out the big brain on Kleph.
by Kenny483 on
Nov 19, 2008 1:18 PM CST
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For real
My brain started to bleed from my ears with that sentence…
When you are an Alabama fan you have to hate Auburn, I hate Tennessee because i want to.
by bammer on
Nov 19, 2008 1:31 PM CST
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Does anyone know...
…a homonym for hominem?
by NiceLittleSaturday on
Nov 19, 2008 2:18 PM CST
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im sorry for my posts
i will calm down….again
Hell, no! A tie is like kissing your sister!
by comer4tide on
Nov 19, 2008 2:37 PM CST
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There is a difference.....
Between deleting someone because you don’t like what they and deleting them because they are salivating, knuckle dragging mindless idiots trying to stir the pot. I think that nico, todd and all who watch over RBR do an excellent job and though I’m just a part timer and can barely begin to contribute or have the great post that many of you such as bammer, bamavicki, bamagrad and so many others do.
Keep up the good work and know that old guys like me who don’t always post everyday, but log on and read, appreciate what you do.
Well, are you gonna pull them pistols, or whistle dixie?
by jtCRIMSON on
Nov 19, 2008 3:21 PM CST
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Well, thanks jt...
I think all of us would like to keep up the high standards that RBR is known for. Some of that includes policing ourselves. I have commented a few times when I felt something was inappropriate and have received apologies. That being said, there’s a difference between gratuitous profanity and a little cussing that goes on between adults. People should be able to tell the difference. Some people were offended by Coach Saban saying “I don’t give a sh** who we’re playing”, but most of us thought he was the bomb for saying it. I prefer a site where people are “real”, not some 60’s sitcom that does not resemble my life.
I’ve been to other sites where Fan Posts and Fan Shots stay up weeks, sometimes months. Now that RBR has gotten so popular, posts move on and off the front page at such a fast and furious rate, it’s hard for me to read everything and I’m not even working right now. That’s all great for Nico, Todd, and OTS, but also hard to oversee when real life intrudes on blogging.
Since I recently have had an elephant in this fight regarding banning trolls, there’s no doubt sometimes it is warranted. One of the reasons I came here and stayed was the low number of trolls on RBR, plus the great posters I have interacted with and met. I don’t want that to change, so I hope the guys come up with something or someone that will help them monitor the site.
"I hate everything orange"
It's all about Crimson - ROLL TIDE!!!
by bamavicki on
Nov 19, 2008 5:30 PM CST
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post script...
I hope no one loses their passion for what they write, just write as if you mom or daughters were reading it. Again, GREAT JOB!!!
Well, are you gonna pull them pistols, or whistle dixie?
by jtCRIMSON on
Nov 19, 2008 3:22 PM CST
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I learned my langauge...
from my mom…a coal miner kid in West Virginia. The rest of my family are tobacco farmers or REAL salty truck drivers. Oh, and ,y baby’s mama is a lawya’ too, so could I have some more specific advice ;)
by Stuck in the Plains on
Nov 19, 2008 4:13 PM CST
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I can understand deleting some troll posts or if someone is causing troubles
for a RBR member (as in bamavicki’s case) banning said person BUT I feel if you start putting rules to what members can say or not say isn’t that kind of like preventing free speech.
It’s like these people that complain about things that are on tv….IF you don’t like what’s on the channel, change it or the ones complaining about rock and/or rap music…IF you don’t like it don’t listen to it……People should be able to make that choice is all I’m saying!
and as far as it being safe for children I believe like crimsongirl that’s up to a parent to police that…..read it before your child reads it to see if it’s appropiate or not……I have always thought that’s up to a parent to do……but I would think most kids that are old enough to find RBR and read it would not be shocked to see an F bomb dropped in a post….I work with kids everyday and trust me they all know how to use profanity even as young as a 3yr old!!
As far as the game day threads I think we all have admitted to being very passionate in our viewing of our Beloved Tide when they are playing a game and I have participated in alot of game day threads and we all get very vocal in our happiness and in our disappointment in however the Tide seem to be playing at the moment and alot of F bombs are dropped along with some prayers…..I believe that’s just our passion at the moment coming out (I for one admit I CAN NOT watch Bama play with out letting out some form of profanity..F bombs included) and I’m sure if someone comes along AFTER the game and reads it they may be a little shocked but IN THE MOMENT those are the passionate comments of alot of RBR posters and it’s what gets us thru THAT particular play/moment in the game!!
I found RBR while googling the hiring of an Alabama coach after the Shula firing…..I have been “addicted” since that first click and I think Todd, Nico and OTS do a GREAT job!!! I enjoy reading the debate of rather Snow is hot or not and giving Todd grief for not knowing how to pick decent beefcake as much as I enjoy reading the posts about the Tide.
Just giving my 2 cents.
'Dammit, you slow sumbitch - tackle him and break his legs.'
Roll Tide!!!!!
by imaBamafan on
Nov 19, 2008 6:15 PM CST
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Well said...
…especially about the Game Day threads. I cannot imagine watching a game and not cussing VERY loudly. You’re right – it’s all about the passion we have for Alabama football and I wouldn’t have it any other way.
Now the important question. Where the heck did you find that picture for your avatar? It is hysterical!!!
"I hate everything orange"
It's all about Crimson - ROLL TIDE!!!
by bamavicki on
Nov 19, 2008 8:22 PM CST
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Was cleaning out my document folder and
found it….I must have found it on the internet at one time and had forgotten about it…..it is appropriate for this time of year………heck it’s appropriate all year!!! LOL
That's the paradox of success. The moment you stop to enjoy it, you are in trouble. You have to keep moving forward. It's not what you have done that's important. It's where you are going.
— Alabama coach Nick Saban
by imaBamafan on
Nov 19, 2008 9:36 PM CST
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While we are all passionate on the game day threads...
that doesn’t give an excuse to use that kind of language. You still have to think about it before you type it, and then you have to hit the post button.
So while we can be passionate, that doesn’t mean we can’t control it. Pull out a thesaurus and learn some new words! haha
by jsholt969 on
Nov 20, 2008 12:29 AM CST
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Yeah sorry ImaBamafan i have to disagree
I understand that people get frustrated and post stuff on game threads that is very…say passionate but we have to have some self control. No one is trying to stop you or anyone else from cursing up a storm at the bar, your home or at the game but lets have a bit decency here. We talk about Alabama fans having class. Well lets start by watching what we say.
And the whole “if you don’t want to read it., then go somewhere else” Come on man. Thats weak.
When you are an Alabama fan you have to hate Auburn, I hate Tennessee because i want to.
by bammer on
Nov 20, 2008 9:28 AM CST
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Totally agree
How far are we really willing to take this “free speech” stuff. Don’t we all agree that racist remarks, etc., are inappropriate here? That’s limiting free speech. The reason we’re opposed to that is because it’s highly offensive language, especially to the groups that are targeted. Free speech is great, but it comes with responsibility – the responsibility to speak decently. If you want to do otherwise around buddies and at home, no one is stopping you, but my hope would be that this is a place for all Bama fans to feel welcome. That can’t happen when a segment of those fans are highly offended by things that are being said here. As bammer said, it all gets back to self-control, and we all have the ability to do that.
I bleed crimson and white...I puke Vol puke orange. RTR
by SugarBowl93 on
Nov 20, 2008 11:20 AM CST
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If so many are concerned...
…about the language on Game Day threads, it needs to start from the top. Nico has been there with language NSFW and OTS said a word that I find more offensive than ANY others and it starts with C. I’m sorry to call the site authors out, but it’s the truth. That being said, I don’t happen to think people that cuss occasionally lack class. I cuss some, but I don’t do it gratuitously.
Another thing, where are you going to draw the line? Is sh**, wtf, f’kin, etc ok because the words are not spelled out?
Just curious where ya’ll who want to rein things in were when Stuck in the Plains had his Fan Post up and I was the ONLY one who commented with my feelings on it? NONE if you guys stepped up then.
"I hate everything orange"
It's all about Crimson - ROLL TIDE!!!
by bamavicki on
Nov 20, 2008 12:39 PM CST
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honestly
i read it real quick and when i came back to the site, it was gone.
Lets take another SB Nation blog RTT as an example. I went over there a few months ago, and i think i said shit or hell or something along those lines. The next time i logged in over there i was given a message that said that cussing was not alowed. I was warned that if it happened again i would not be allowed back. I agreed and have never cussed there again. Is that what i want here? no. But i would like for people to dial it back a little. Remember an embarrassing admission thread that got riddled with humerous gay talk? Well Todd stepped in and told everyone to stop. They did and it was over.
So where does it stop? I don’t know. But it is something that needs to be addressed.
I also agree that people that cuss occasionally still have class. Ok so im not one of those people. But the constent f bombs, GD’s, c words and others like them are out of line.
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by bammer on
Nov 20, 2008 1:58 PM CST
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Personally,
I’d be fine if all of it were gone, including abbreviations. Is that realistic to ask? I don’t know, but for me, that would be ideal.
I’m also in bammer’s shoes – I had very few chances to say anything before that particular post was gone. However, perhaps a better question is where have we been with all the other posts that have contained similar language / content. Honestly, I didn’t think it would do much if I said anything (though I have made one or two comments about related things in the past). For that, perhaps I was wrong. But it seems I’m not the only one concerned, and I am taking the opportunity now to elaborate on my thoughts on the matter. Take them for what they’re worth…even trash them if you like…but I just want this side of the matter to be heard as well, and whatever is decided, I’ll live with, one way or the other.
Thanks, though, bamavicki for whatever comments you made on the deleted post. I don’t know what they were, but they obviously got this discussion going, and I think it’s a good thing for us to discuss no matter what the outcome.
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by SugarBowl93 on
Nov 20, 2008 2:37 PM CST
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I understand the point of view ya'll are making
and I guess the point of view I have is because profanity doesn’t offend me. I don’t think I’ve ever dropped an F bomb on a game day thread (can’t be positive , I tend to lean more toward crap and son of a B LOL) I guess I don’t really pay that much attention to the cussing.
Bammer I didnt mean if you don’t want to read it go somewhere else…I meant if you don’t like the tone/language of it close that post out and go on to another.
I was just giving my 2 cents….that the language doesn’t bother me and however Nico, Todd and OTS decide to run RBR I’ll still be here reading and posting!!!
That's the paradox of success. The moment you stop to enjoy it, you are in trouble. You have to keep moving forward. It's not what you have done that's important. It's where you are going.
— Alabama coach Nick Saban
by imaBamafan on
Nov 20, 2008 5:00 PM CST
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I have never been particularly offended by profanity, either.
As a general rule, I overlook the profanity and focus on the content of the statemen being made. If the majority of the words ARE profain, it may make it harder to overlook, however I would say I would think that should be addressed on an individual basis NOT as a general rule, as this happens the minority of the time rather than the majority of the time.
I do think an important change that might take place could be each member taking a look at themselves and what they do. This is a blog with many different people from various backgrounds and cultures and educational histories. We all come together to discuss a variety of topics and share only one obvious common ground: a love of the University of Alabama. To keep these discussions bearable each member should:
1) Decide if the language/content they are about to post is worth someone else’s comfort. Think before you post. Before you take an “f it! attitude, just remember the reason that you come here is because there ARE so many people here to talk with. Do you feel like your lang/cont is so important it is worth a large group of them LEAVING? Participation dying off? Just so you can tell everyone about what you would do to that girl? What you think of ____? Is that really relavant to the "SEC downfall” heading? (I am making this up! I’m not calling anyone out!)
2)Decide if you are TRULY offended. Did that word or content really upset you so much that you don’t feel that you can visit the site again? Or do you just disagree with the post and this is the best comeback you have? (once again, I am NOT calling anyone on RBR out, just seen this before) Maybe we have to develop tougher skin to be members because there ARE such a multitude of personalities present? I have never been a female who takes jokes about women personally, but if I were, some of the posts here would have been upsetting. I would need to develop tougher skin. We know that they guys here don’t mean anything by them, and I think that they are pretty funny back-and-forths.
So, I guess I used all of those words to say “check yourself and flag someone if they are out of line.” That is what I have gotten from reading through all of the posts.
by crimsongirl on
Nov 20, 2008 8:22 PM CST
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well said crimsongirl
That's the paradox of success. The moment you stop to enjoy it, you are in trouble. You have to keep moving forward. It's not what you have done that's important. It's where you are going.
— Alabama coach Nick Saban
by imaBamafan on
Nov 20, 2008 8:42 PM CST
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Just to reiterate
Neither Todd, nor Nico, nor OTS deleted my expletive-laced tirade. I did that volitionally. They do an excellent job, provide a great public forum and theirs is a great service to the Tide Nation.
by Stuck in the Plains on
Nov 19, 2008 6:28 PM CST
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More to the point...
This has been bothering me and I’d like to ask why they didn’t ask you to edit it? It had been up over 24 hours when I commented and I believe all 3 had posted something in those 24 hours, so I find it hard to believe it was not read by them.
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It's all about Crimson - ROLL TIDE!!!
by bamavicki on
Nov 19, 2008 7:00 PM CST
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I read it...
…and thought it was questionable, but didn’t really think that it should be taken down, either. I don’t remember if I went back and read through the comments once they started piling up, though, so if anyone complained I’m sorry for not seeing. If there’s anything that someone finds offensive in the fanposts you can “flag” it and that will bring it to our attention faster than leaving a comment that might not get seen or get skimmed over.
by Todd on
Nov 19, 2008 7:24 PM CST
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I don't think I've ever...
…clicked on actions to see the “flag” option. That’s good to know. It shouldn’t surprise you that I’m the one that commented that I found something in it offensive. It wasn’t the language, even though there was too much of that, but one certain description of something done in Auburn. I asked if he would consider editing it. I didn’t suggest taking it down.
"I hate everything orange"
It's all about Crimson - ROLL TIDE!!!
by bamavicki on
Nov 19, 2008 7:55 PM CST
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One final word here...
…since I was at work and not really able to put together much of a response earlier, but the post that was deleted was nothing more than a troll post that boiled down to “OMG U R STOOPID SABAN WILL LEAVE AND HE ISN’T GOOD ANYWAY!!11” It was deleted because it was stupid and designed to get a rise out of us, and not because of anything you guys did in the comments. Unless several people have a legitimate complaint about a comment or fanpost, we won’t delete anything a regular reader posts. Y’all do a fantastic job of policing yourselves, and on occasions when a regular does post something that another user finds offensive, I think you all are adult enough to call them out and deal with it amongst yourselves. And by regular I mean someone that is clearly here because they are interested in what goes on on this blog and not just to stir up trouble, be it rival or Bama fan. Now as for the post I deleted, maybe I should have left it up, and kind of regret not doing so now. Had I been in a better mood last night I’m sure we all could have had some fun with it, but since I wasn’t all I saw was an obviously inflammatory post with no relative value to this site or it’s readers. I chose to boot it and ban the author and, at least on the banning part, I think it was the right decision. All that is to say that, so long as fanposts and comments are worth reading and not designed to cause trouble, have at it. Disagree with each other and with us, it’s fine. Just keep it civil and have a coherent point to make, even if it is a silly one.
by Todd on
Nov 19, 2008 6:48 PM CST
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And This is Why...
Roll Bama Roll is the best sports blog on the net.
Where else can members talk about a topic with such eloquence and class?
There were a lot of different ideas thrown around, and maybe a few that will adjust some things, but above all there was a common theme in nearly every single comment:
Todd, Nico, and OTS do a stunning job at running this site.
I believe it is their high standards of work ethic that have made this site what it is today.
If it was easy, everyone would do it...
by SouthernComfort34 on
Nov 19, 2008 9:07 PM CST
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EWWW...
Please don’t give Todd ideas for beefcake.
"I hate everything orange"
It's all about Crimson - ROLL TIDE!!!
by bamavicki on
Nov 20, 2008 6:27 AM CST
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HAHA I totally agree bamavicki
Todd does bad enough on his own please don’t help him out!
That's the paradox of success. The moment you stop to enjoy it, you are in trouble. You have to keep moving forward. It's not what you have done that's important. It's where you are going.
— Alabama coach Nick Saban
by imaBamafan on
Nov 20, 2008 5:01 PM CST
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