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The 2008 Iron Bowl: Final Thoughts

As we move into the second half of the week, all eyes will quickly turn away from the Iron Bowl and look directly forward to this weekend's showdown with Florida in the SEC Championship Game. However, before we move on, I wanted to get in a few final thoughts on the 2008 Iron Bowl.

From the outset, what should be recognized most was the sheer dominance displayed on Saturday. Even aside from the fact that the margin of victory was the highest in almost fifty years, the one-sided nature of the game was plainly evident in every other aspect of the game as well. Auburn couldn't even muster a single point, and had only eight first downs. Only one play went for longer than fifteen yards, and Auburn had fewer than ten snaps in Alabama territory. Alabama averaged about five yards per carry. Auburn, on the other hand, averaged about five feet per carry. Kodi Burns struggled to even complete a pass, and Alabama decisively won both the turnover battle and time of possession battle.

At the end of the day, it was just unmistakably clear that Alabama was by far the better team, and the scoreboard -- and the box score -- merely reflected that basic fact.

In reality, the only way that Auburn could have won this game -- or in hindsight, even made it somewhat competetive --would have been for Alabama to create them a path to victory. As I said in the Iron Bowl preview, Auburn needed us to hand them the game with turnovers and big plays on special teams, and we refused to do either of those two things. We didn't have a single turnover, and while we kept the Auburn return game completely in check, the only positive that they had on special teams was a blocked extra point (something completely negated, and then some, by our own blocked field goal to end the first half). With us creating them no path to victory, their defeat became certain, and only the final margin of victory was left in doubt.

And honestly, we didn't even come close to giving them that path to victory. Much has been made by both Alabama and Auburn fans of Jerraud Powers dropped interception and the potential impact that it could have had, but in all honesty even had he held on the impact would have been neglible at best. At first I thought he could have returned it for a score, but after further review his momentum was clearly carrying him backwards when he got his hands on the ball, and we'd have tackled him a few yards upfield. In all honesty, it would have had little impact... Auburn's impotent offense would have either turned it back over to us, or they would have punted it back after a quick three and out. At most, it would have only changed field position.

When all was said and done, the massive disparity between the two teams was simply put on display Saturday afternoon.

Hindsight 20/20, I really just don't think that any of the Auburn people ever "got it." Without trying to denigrate the streak that they had going (and in all fairness any streak that long is impressive), let's call a spade a spade. What Auburn did throughout the course of the streak was this... They, a consistently good team, consistently beat Alabama teams with inferior talent, inferior coaching, inferior conditioning, and inferior preparation by consistently small margins. That is what they did; nothing more, nothing less. There was never any true "dominance" in the practical sense of the word, nor was there every any long-term shift of power.

And, again, I just don't think any of the Auburn people ever firmly grasped that reality. Despite all objective evidence pointing to the contrary, it was as if Auburn still considered themselves to be the superior team with the superior coaching. Two weeks ago, Brad Lester popped off about how they were going to blow out both Georgia and Alabama. This past week, Tommy Tuberville was quoted as saying that the talent level at the two schools was more-or-less even, and that the only real difference between the two was quarterback experience. Even a mere three hours before kick-off Saturday, Tuberville himself arrogantly strolled into Bryant-Denny Stadium holding up seven fingers. And the Auburn fan base... it was like many of them were legitimately expecting a recurrence of Punt 'Bama Punt.

Again, I just don't think any of them ever "got it." Somehow, someway, it seemed to me like the coaches, players, and fans were still holding onto this notion that Auburn remained the superior team, with the superior coaching, etc. But of course, it was an assinine belief, and it was quickly dispelled Saturday afternoon.

Auburn fans will find equally concerning, in due time, that the situation isn't really looking any better for them in the coming years, either. Auburn's recent poor recruiting classes -- mixed with two unbelievable recruiting classes assembled by Saban in Tuscaloosa, with more on the way -- ultimately has a harsh reality for Auburn fans: From here on out, Auburn will go into the Iron Bowl with a severe deficit, relative to Alabama, in terms of both elite-level talent and quality depth throughout the roster. And we all know how that works out... when a more talented team with better depth plays a lesser talented team without as much quality depth, the more talented team is almost always going to emerge victorious. The margin of victory quite obviously won't be as high in the coming years as it was this season -- really, how could it be any higher? -- but frankly I don't see any objective reason to believe that Alabama shouldn't run off a pretty impressive streak of their own in the coming years.

Finally, in the aftermath of the blowout, there has been a lot of talk about Tuberville potentially not returning. Call me a homer if you wish, but I don't think it really matters one way or the other. It's a controversial subject, but I will speak frankly on the matter with no regrets or apologies: Tommy Tuberville is simply no match for Nick Saban, and it is extremely unlikely -- read next to impossible -- that Auburn will be able to find a replacement for Tuberville that is on Saban's level. Hell, truth of the matter is that even we probably could not get a comparable replacement for Saban if we had to, so you can rest assured that Auburn won't.

At the end of the day, it really doesn't matter whether or not Tuberville stays or go. Saban is clearly a better coach and a better recruiter than Tuberville -- the only thing perhaps more impressive than Saban's dominance of Tuberville on the field is his dominance of Tuberville on the recruiting trails -- and frankly Saban is going to be a better coach and a better recruiter than any replacement that Auburn could possibly find. In reality, any change made will likely have a negligible impact, and will likely be a change more for the sake of change than anything else.

Again, call me a homer if you wish, but the truth of the matter is that the time has come for us to recognize Nick Saban as what he really is: an elite coach and an elite recruiter. And as long as Saban continues to spend his Saturdays at 100 Bryant Drive, he's almost certain to make life miserable for those who bleed orange and blue, regardless of who is in charge down on the Plains.

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To be fair...

…Lester did predict a blowout.

by NiceLittleSaturday on Dec 3, 2008 10:08 AM CST reply actions  

They, a consistently good team, consistently beat Alabama teams with inferior talent, inferior coaching, inferior conditioning, and inferior preparation by consistently small margins.

i’ve actually given this very point a decent amount of thought since the game particularly in light of the growing chorus of pundits braying about the ‘decline of the SEC’ and how our success is an offshoot of that.

is it possible that the previous years when we were a ‘mediocre’ SEC team was actually the norm? that there was a degree of parity among the teams in the conference which continues to exist but, now, two teams have broken away and are operating at a higher level than the others?

the record of SEC teams against other conferences this year – like the ACC for example, would seem to refute this hypothesis but, i imagine, the outcome of the various bowl games will provide better data to test it.

by kleph on Dec 3, 2008 10:31 AM CST reply actions  

I really do think the league is down...

not Big East or Big Ten, but the parity this year certainly resembles the Big 12 of a few years ago and the Big Ten most years: two elite teams, three or four nice teams, and the bottom dragging the rest down. It’s not just the ACC matchups, really, but the entire corpus, in- and out- of conference; and most of that is attributable to the following (IMHO):
1. god awful QB play. The SEC is never going to be confused for the PAC 10 or the WAC of old, but lookit: UT, MSU, LSU, Auburn, So. Car., Vandy have all been dreadful. Kentucky has mostly sucked. Stafford is up and down, same with the Dick brothers and Jevan Snead. By default, you’re left with two decent, consistent QB’s. The game manager in JPW, and everyone’s Mr. All-American in Tebow. It is not a coincidence that these are two best teams.
2. New coaches, and bored/disinterested coaches: SOS, Tubs, Petrino, Brooks, Fulmer. The notable, and pleasant exception, has been Nutt.
3. Ill-prepared game plans and execution by those who ought to do better: UGA, LSU, UT, SC.
4. And, of course, very good defenses. UT, Auburn, Alabama, Florida, South Carolina, Ole Miss, Miss. State, all play lights out (most days).

Yea, so, I think it is a down year. Next year, when Jefferson is a bit older, when N. Dick has a spring under him, when Snead has the system down, When Tebow is a senior, when Garcia is the clear #1, when Randall Cobb is a year older, then I think you will see the top-to-bottom strength of the league again.

by Stuck in the Plains on Dec 3, 2008 11:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Excellent

OTS,

I think you really hit the nail on the head, relative to the streak. I think so many Auburn fans just thought because this had happened in the past it would continue to happen. There was no real reason to believe that Auburn would beat Alabama, and most fans were sticking with the belief that there were some intangibles that Auburn had over Alabama. Auburn’s failure was to put in the necessary work and effort that is required.

People think that just because something has happened in the past it will continue to happen in the future. This in all honesty has been the same problem that Alabama has had in the past, too many people always talking about winning the 13th national championship. Nick Saban has completely changed the culture at Alabama, and how people think. I think it is amazing what he has done.

by Kenny483 on Dec 3, 2008 11:11 AM CST reply actions  

Domination?

Really? I would have considered a domination a larger margin of points posted. Granted, a goose egg is nothing to be proud of but if you were really that bad ass, you would have run up the score to show how dominate you really were. Kinda like Oklahoma did to Texas A&M in 2003, 77-0.

War Damn Eagle!

by sevenspurs on Dec 3, 2008 3:13 PM CST reply actions  

Could you IMAGINE the whining???

Our back-up QB scored ONE TD and they whined like we were the most heartless monsters!! Could you IMAGINE if we had scored 77 on them? Oh, that would be cruel and unusual….to us!

by crimsongirl on Dec 3, 2008 4:57 PM CST up reply actions  

domination...

hmmm…after long thought and reading sevenspurs comment, i would say I would have to agree with him. I mean he makes a good point, AU does suck just as bad as Texas A&M if not worse right? I think we were giving them credit in stating that they were still an SEC team with a decent history against us in A MUCH MORE NOTABLE rivalry game…but if that’s the way AU wants to play it..then we didnt dominate them………..
Score one for the BARNERS?

36-ZERO!!! ROLL TIDE!

by bamamilitary on Dec 3, 2008 3:39 PM CST reply actions  

Would

like to see a pic of Tubs holding up 7 fingers. You are right OTS all my Aubie friends kept telling me even the week before the IB that they would win.

We need to give Saban a big raise- 5 mil. a year and redo his contract for 10 years. We need to do everything we can possibly do to lock him into Bama for as long as possible. As good as this year has been our best years are really ahead of us right now. We could really go on a streak, something like 50-5 over the next 4 years. Only two thigns stand in our way…Saban leaving and NCAA violations. If we stay clear of those two we will be good for along time.

By the way if Saban had been coaching us 3 years ago, Tebow would be at Bama now.

by 5026 on Dec 3, 2008 4:17 PM CST reply actions  

War…Eagle, fly down the field, Ever to conquer, never to yield.
War…Eagle fearless and true. Fight on, you orange and blue.
Go! Go! Go!
On to vic’try, strike up the band,
Give ’em hell, give ’em hell.
Stand up and yell, Hey! War…Eagle, win for Auburn,
Power of Dixie Land!

by okietigerr on Dec 3, 2008 7:40 PM CST reply actions  

Oh yeah, and like was so important before the game...

wouldn’t you feel stupid playing “give ’em hell” if the score were, say, 36-0? You weren’t “giving us hell???” Just like we DIDN’T feel stupid playing Rammer Jammer, afterall!

If you missed it, it’s on the left side. =)

by crimsongirl on Dec 3, 2008 10:31 PM CST up reply actions  

*hums*

War Eagle, limp on the field. Came to Bryant Denny and F’in got killed…

by Stuck in the Plains on Dec 4, 2008 5:59 AM CST up reply actions  

oh...my bad....

guess they could have played it! nice.

by crimsongirl on Dec 4, 2008 8:16 AM CST up reply actions  

From what I saw...

…ya’ll YIELDED a hell of a lot.

"I hate everything orange"
It's all about Crimson - ROLL TIDE!!!

by bamavicki on Dec 4, 2008 6:28 AM CST up reply actions  

from what i saw..

you didn’t SEE alot – bahahahahahaha

2008 Iron Bowl Bumper Sticker: Shut DOWN, Shut OUT, now SHUT UP!
Alabama 36 - Auburn 0

by LittleSis on Dec 4, 2008 7:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Shhhhhhh...

Tide TV is up and running.

"I hate everything orange"
It's all about Crimson - ROLL TIDE!!!

by bamavicki on Dec 4, 2008 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Urm...

“They, a consistently good team, consistently beat Alabama teams with inferior talent, inferior coaching, inferior conditioning, and inferior preparation by consistently small margins. That is what they did; nothing more, nothing less. There was never any true "dominance” in the practical sense of the word, nor was there every any long-term shift of power."

Bama fan here. So don’t take this the wrong way, because I like the blog and I think you put together a lot of good observations. But the “Practical sense” of domination, at least in a football sense, is getting beat repeatedly by a team that is more talented, better coached, and better conditioned (particularly with regard to conditioning).

So yeah, I think the winds are certainly changing. I especially think Saban is a recruiter like no one else (Given time, Dan Hawkins might get there). But I’m calling you out as a homer regarding the recent history of this rivalry. It’s one thing to revel in sweet victory, and know that things are back to being the way they should be. But it’s another to try to rewrite history.

Good thoughts, other than that.

by MontyIII on Dec 3, 2008 7:42 PM CST reply actions  

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