Speaking of the 2009 Schedule...
One of the fanposts a few days ago was talking about the 2009 schedule, and though I cannot find any official confirmation just yet, this is apparently the schedule being tentatively circulated around Tide Pride:
September 5th: Virginia Tech (Georgia Dome, contract not yet finalized)
September 12th: Florida International
September 19th: North Texas
September 26th: Arkansas
October 3rd: Kentucky (Lexington)
October 10th: Ole Miss (Oxford)
October 17th: South Carolina
October 24th: Tennessee
October 31st: Bye week
November 7th: LSU
November 14: Mississippi State (Starkville)
November 21: Tennessee-Chattanooga
November 28th: Auburn (Auburn)
All told, the format of the schedule essentially works out just like it did this season. We'll start off with an ACC team in the Georgia Dome (assuming they finalize the deal), and then it will be a couple of cupcake OOC games before conference play starts with Arkansas. November wraps up about the same, too. We get a bye week before LSU, then play Mississippi State, get another cupcake, and then play Auburn on the last Saturday in November.
You will note that we only have one bye week, and that is by design. In 2009, SEC teams will only get one bye week throughout the season, and we are of course no different. It's essentially the same as this past year, though, with the only difference that instead of getting a bye week before the Iron Bowl, next year we will get Tennessee-Chattanooga (in what might be homecoming).
Moreover, a few teams will get bye weeks immediately before they play us next season, but it shouldn't matter too much. Auburn and Mississippi State will, though neither should matter with those two, and Ole Miss has the option of doing so as well. Moreover, it seems that Tennessee will get an off-week before they play the Tide as well, which could be a bit of a trap game because we will be playing for our eighth consecutive week when they come to town. Fortunately, though, we get an off week before LSU (they don't), and Arkansas, South Carolina, and Kentucky all have conference opponents the week before they play Alabama.
All in all, though, the schedule looks pretty dang good. Virginia Tech will be a good bit tougher opponent than Clemson -- you can rest assured the Hokies will at least play physical and put up a fight, they won't roll over dead like Clemson did -- but the other three OOC games are extreme cupcakes, and this is the best year possible for us with the conference slate. All of the most difficult games will be at home, and we draw South Carolina and Kentucky out of the East. There is no doubt that we've got a lot of work to do for the upcoming season, but at the very least we do have a pretty favorable schedule.
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Very favorable
the game that scares me the most is that Ole Miss game in Oxford. I wouldn’t be surprised if preseason has the West a toss up between Bama and the Rebels.
Alabama judges its team by national and SEC titles. Auburn judges its team by how many times it beats Alabama. You tell me who the dominant team in the state is.
by Nose Guard on Dec 9, 2008 3:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I
have no idea what LSU’s situation will be next year, does anybody know who they lose? Obviously there will be an interesting QB controversey going into next year for them (he he he).
by Bens4vcobra on Dec 9, 2008 3:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They don't lose anyone...
LSU doesn’t lose any quarterback going forward to the 2009 season (unless somebody gets hurt or transfers), so that’s not an issue. However, as terrible as those guys looked in 2008, they could take a big step forward and still have pretty poor QB play.
by outsidethesidelines on Dec 9, 2008 4:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Russell Shepherd
Supposed to be LSU’s hotshot true freshmen QB. Not sure if he’s gonna start, obviously, but one of the guys on the talking box called him “Percy Harvin at QB.” That sounds much scarier than “pick-6 machine.” Nevertheless, QB doesn’t address LSU’s defensive meltdown at the end of the year. It’ll be interesting to see how they handle G Tech in the Whatchamacallit Bowl.
"That rug really tied the room together."
by pantsfucious on Dec 9, 2008 5:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
mmmmmmmm
Whatchamacallit’s were some delicious candybars.
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by That Other Dave on Dec 10, 2008 9:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They might not lose a quarterback
but that doesn’t mean they don’t lose anyone. They’ll get ravaged along the lines, especially if RJF and Ciron Black turn pro (both possibilities). Without losing those two, Kirston Pittman, Tyson Jackson, Charles Alexander, Herman Johnson, and Brett Helms are all gone, as well as a couple of defensive contributors who were backups and I think the center who came in for Helms after he got hurt in the Bama game. They also lose their top two wide receivers, Byrd and LaFell. Darry Beckwith, their best LB, is gone too. All of their runningbacks return unless Scott turns pro (unlikely, I think), and I think most of their secondary will be back. and a talented TE in Dickson. Those should be the stronger units on the 2009 LSU team.
by streetweirdo on Dec 9, 2008 5:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Shephard...
… won’t be their every-down quarterback next year, in any other year. He’s a truly elite athlete, but he’s a poor passer even by high school standards, and he won’t get that job. They may run him some sort of special package where he gets the ball, but the every-down QB will be either Hatch, Lee, or Jefferson.
And I think LaFell returns. I’m pretty sure he is a junior, so he is returning unless he goes pro early, though that might happen too. There’s a good chance, as you mentioned, that they lose RJF and Black too.
by outsidethesidelines on Dec 9, 2008 6:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
they do
lose at least 4 or 5 starters on defense…3 on the d-line a lb and i think a cb
by alanbama12 on Dec 9, 2008 7:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
thats what I was asking, overall, not just QB.
by Bens4vcobra on Dec 9, 2008 7:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Looked it up...
They’ve got a fair number of losses, as I expected.
The biggest losses come in the defensive front seven. Gone are Darry Beckwith, Tyson Jackson, Kirston Pittman, Marlon Favorite, and Charles Alexander, plus they lose Curtis Taylor out of the defensive backfield. Offensively, Quinn Johnson (starting fullback) is gone, as is Demetrius Byrd, and they’ll have to replace a couple of key linemen in Herman Johnson and Brett Helms (LG and C, respectively). Moreover, they do lose both the kicker and the punter, which are pretty big losses in their case because those guys were pretty productive. Colt David is the leading scorer in LSU history, and Brady Dalfrey was one of the best punters in the conference last year. By my count, that’s having to replace somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 to 12 out of the 24 total starting jobs.
The big concern with them is going to be the draft. Ciron Black could be a high pick, same goes for Francois, and even LaFell could be an option. They lose a pretty good number of starters anyway, and if the draft hits them hard, that’s going to much it tough in 2009.
Either way, looking at the roster, 2009 is a pretty big year for them because they will lose even more then than they will this season. Current juniors on the roster include (1) Charles Scott, (2) Keiland Williams, (3) Brandon LaFell, (4) Ciron Black, (5) Lyle Hitt, (6) Richard Dickson, (7) Trindon Holliday, (8) Chris Mitchell, (9) Harry Coleman, (10) Rahim Alem, (11) Jacob Cutrera, (12) Ricky-Jean Francois, (13) Al Woods, (14) Perry Riley, (15) Danny McCray, and (16) Chris Hawkins. All 16 of those guys are players who have started a lot the past year or so, or guys who should start as seniors in 2009, and of course all of them will not return for 2010.
When you put it all together, 2009 is looking to need to be a pretty big year for them. 2008 was a bad year at 7-5, and 2010 is probably going to be a pretty lean year yet again because they are going to lose a ton of quality seniors. As a result, you need 2009 to be a pretty big year to help bridge the gap. Otherwise, it’s three not-so-good years back-to-back-to-back.
by outsidethesidelines on Dec 9, 2008 8:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I get frustrated with a schedule like this
We’re already going to have SoS issues with Georgia leaving the schedule, but then adding to of the worst teams in D1-A and a D1-AA team?
2008 – Sagarin Ratings
FIU – 116
North Texas – 180
Chattanooga – 213
Why not pick up some better non-BCS teams or lesser BCS schools. Buffalo? Baylor? Houston? Southern Miss? These aren’t great teams, but they would make our SoS look a hell of a lot better than those three scrubs.
by rugman11 on Dec 9, 2008 3:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
My guess....
….is that it’s being done to help what will be a fairly green, but significant part of our offense next year get some game experience in contests they should win despite their inexperience. We know we’re losing our QB and 2-3 O-Line starters if Andre leaves. I know we have a lot of talent coming back, but replacing a QB and 60% of your O-Line is going to be rough.
by Nico2.0 on Dec 9, 2008 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's why...
…it’s aight with me.
by NiceLittleSaturday on Dec 9, 2008 3:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I still...
…wish we’d avoid the 1-AA teams though.
by Nico2.0 on Dec 9, 2008 3:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not that easy...
We do have three cupcakes on the OOC schedule, no doubt about that, but Virginia Tech is back-to-back ACC champs, and they’ll probably be the favorite to win it again next year. Just having them on the schedule, in and of itself, makes it a harder OOC schedule than most of the rest of the teams in the conference.
The only two team in the conference that clearly has a tougher OOC schedule than us is Georgia, as they draw @ Oklahoma State, Arizona State, and @ Georgia Tech. You could arguably make a case for South Carolina, too, but that’s debatable. As for the rest of the conference, we have an OOC schedule just as tough, if not tougher.
Moreover, with regard to 1-AA teams, right now there are only two teams in the conference that don’t look to have a 1-AA opponent., and those are LSU and Tennessee. However, it should be noted that even so LSU still has the easiest OOC schedule in the conference — they beefed up the schedule with vaunted 0-12 Washington, plus they are playing for the Louisiana state championship against Tulane, ULL, and Louisiana Tech — and Tennessee has a game with Western Kentucky, who will be in their first full year of 1-A football.
by outsidethesidelines on Dec 9, 2008 4:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I-AA games...
Here goes a list:
Alabama: Tennessee-Chattanooga
Auburn: Furman
Arkansas: Missouri State
Georgia: Tennessee Tech
Florida: Charleston Southern
Kentucky: Eastern Kentucky
Ole Miss: Nothing official yet, but they are looking to add one
MSU: Jackson State
South Carolina: Citadel
Vandy: West Carolina
by outsidethesidelines on Dec 9, 2008 4:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Again, I argue
that our non-conference schedule is only good so long as Virginia Tech remains a great team. We thought our OOC would be tough this year (after all we scheduled a top-10 title contender) and look what happened. There is ZERO chance that any of the other three proposed teams will put up even mediocre seasons, so if VA Tech falters, we’ll be stuck with a well below-average non-conference slate and will be left praying that the SEC is back to full strength next year.
by rugman11 on Dec 9, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree...
I agree with you, but the same thing goes for just about the entire rest of the SEC.
All Auburn has is West Virginia, all Tennessee has is UCLA, all Kentucky has is Louisville, all Arkansas has is Texas A&M, all Florida has is FSU, all Vandy has is Georgia Tech, etc.
I’m just saying that we aren’t in any boat different than the rest of the SEC, and quite frankly there’s a much better chance that VT will turn into a true quality team that many other of the opponents I just mentioned.
by outsidethesidelines on Dec 9, 2008 4:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
All true,
but I’m not really worried about comparing schedules with other SEC schools. Those arguments will be decided on the field. I’m more worried about comparing our schedule to other conferences, where W-L record and SoS become the only arguments.
Oklahoma – has already scheduled Miami (FL) and is looking to add a neutral site game with BYU
USC – is playing Ohio State and Notre Dame.
West Virginia – has Auburn and Colorado
VA Tech – has Bama (likely), Nebraska, and East Carolina
GA Tech – has Georgia, MS State, and Vandy
All of these teams are (I believe) potential contenders in 2009 and all of them have backups in case their marquee matchup turns out to be less than stellar.
Think about it this way: where would Oklahoma’s SoS have ended up had Cincy or TCU ended up 7-5 instead of 10-2? Probably not bad, considering they still had the other team on the schedule. But what if they had replaced TCU with North Texas and Cincy ends up at 7-5 or 6-6? Would their SoS still have been high enough to vault them over Texas for the Big 12 South title? Probably not, especially given “45-35”. This year, of all years, has shown how important SoS can be. Oklahoma is only playing in the MNC because their games against Cincinnati and TCU gave them enough of a boost to hurdle Texas, a team they lost to head-to-head.
by rugman11 on Dec 9, 2008 5:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Captain Obvious strikes again, but...
counting Notre Dame toward anyone’s SoS at this point is rediculous. Other than that, I agree with your point! :-)
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by SugarBowl93 on Dec 9, 2008 5:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll never argue that Notre Dame is good, but...
they at least have a chance to be good (8-10 wins). They’re the backup for USC in case Ohio State falters. There is no way FIU or North Texas are winning more than 6 games, even in the Sun Belt.
by rugman11 on Dec 9, 2008 5:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would look at them much like Clemson this year
their name looks good on paper, but with the way things have been going for them over the past couple of seasons, they have just as much chance to be a complete flop and a drag on SoS as they are a help, even in a back-up position. If they do manage 8-10 wins, it will most likely be because they themselves have a less than stellar schedule themselves (which is usually the case, I haven’t looked at their schedule for next year).
However, that said, I guess a few things do favor teams that play them as far as SoS goes:
1) Name recognition. The talking heads love them even when they stink.
2) They are definitely better than a 1-AA team. Even at 0-12, Washington is better than a 1-AA team.
3) They might just pull out a decent season, and if that happens, then my point falls flat.
I suppose they are better than some teams that USC could play, but if they really wanted to prove something I could think of a few others they should have scheduled!
I bleed crimson and white...I puke Vol puke orange. RTR
by SugarBowl93 on Dec 9, 2008 6:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't Worry
As long as they keep Charlie Weiss, they’ll never have 8-10 wins!
by rolltidefromaz on Dec 9, 2008 8:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You do realize...
…that Weis has two seasons of 9 or more wins in his four seasons. He is not a good coach, but it is not extraordinarily difficult for an elite program to win 8 games, no matter who the coach is.
by Kenny483 on Dec 10, 2008 7:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I understand why...
the problem is that weak schedules can hurt teams that succeed. Look at Kansas last year, the only 1-loss BCS team (other than OSU) was kept out of the MNC because they had a weak schedule. The reason Bama wasn’t in serious consideration for the championship game after losing to Florida was because our SoS was around 70th. If our SoS was up around Oklahoma’s and Texas’s, we may have had a chance for a rematch in the MNC (not likely, but possible). Instead we were relegated to the USCs, Penn States, and TTUs because our schedule sucked.
by rugman11 on Dec 9, 2008 3:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There was...
…virtually zero chance of us being put in the MNC for a rematch regardless of our schedule. You can’t lose in the last week and expect to slip in. Michigan had a better chance of that in ‘06 than we did, because their season was over 1-2 weeks before the end of the season. They at least had the advantage that there could’ve been a widespread meltdown that might have let them slip in for a rematch against tOSU. I cannot fathom a way that would let us lose in Week 15 and play what is essentially the next week for the MNC. I don’t think it would’ve mattered if our OOC games were against USC, Missouri, tOSU and Penn State, we were not going to get in with a loss on the last weekend of football of the regular season. I know it wasn’t technically regular season, but there were still regular season games going on on Saturday.
by Nico2.0 on Dec 9, 2008 4:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, fine.
But the Kansas argument still stands. They finished behind 6 2-loss teams because of their strength of schedule (79th in the country). There are only 2008 5 bowl teams on that (admittedly unconfirmed) schedule and we saw this year what can happen when your entire non-conference schedule hinges on one supposedly great opponent. I’d much rather have three respectable teams and one “good” opponent than one “great” team and three cellar-dwellers. There is a much better chance that one of those respectable teams will turn out good (see Houston in 2007) and help the SoS if the good teams turns out bad.
What happens if VA Tech sucks next year like Clemson did this year? Tennessee, Auburn, and MS State will all be rebuilding. LSU still won’t have a QB. Georgia won’t be on there any more. So our entire SoS will be based on Ole Miss?
by rugman11 on Dec 9, 2008 4:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You are right...
You are right that the Kansas argument still stands, but it’s a moot argument with the strength of the SEC. They had an easy route because the Big 12 North is terrible, they got the crappy teams out of the Big 12 South, and had a terrible OOC schedule. You’ll never get that playing in the SEC.
Just looking forward to next year… VT will give us hell, Arkansas should be much improved, Ole Miss will give us hell yet again, same goes for LSU, and both Tennessee and Auburn should be slightly better as well. South Carolina isn’t a worldbeater, but they are a relatively decent opponent, and if you add the SEC Championship Game into the mix — which is a de facto national title qualifying game — strength of schedule isn’t going to be an issue.
by outsidethesidelines on Dec 9, 2008 4:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, you did get that in the SEC this year
Prior to the SEC title game, Alabama’s SOS was in the 70s because Clemson tanked again. I agree with rugman, if you want to play in the NC game with a loss, it would be a good idea to put two probable bowl teams on your schedule. So VA Tech and a top CUSA/MAC/Big East team like Tulsa, Houston, Ball State, one of the good directional Michigan schools, S. Florida, Cincinnati, etc.
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by displacedute on Dec 9, 2008 5:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
I don’t know that we should go with a Big East school (that would likely require a home-and-home offer) but we could get a one-shot home game with someone like Houston, or Western Michigan (10-2 this year). A team that, even if not great, would be a considerable upgrade from North Texas, FIU, or UT-C.
by rugman11 on Dec 9, 2008 6:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Big East might be the 9th best conference this year.
After Cincinnati (and they’re overrated, as the Hawaii game showed) there are a couple of above-average teams at best. The Mountain West is head and shoulders above the Big East this year, and the MAC and CUSA could make a a decent claim to that as well.
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by displacedute on Dec 9, 2008 6:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Also,
re: “You can’t lose in the last week and expect to slip in.”
2001 Nebraska would like to have a word with you.
by rugman11 on Dec 9, 2008 9:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
True, but...
… since when is the last time we even came within a country mile of getting the media love to do something like that?
Some teams are fortunate enough to where the media will essentially crown them in the presses, but we — at least in my lifetime — have never been so fortunate. That’s not going to change next year either.
by outsidethesidelines on Dec 9, 2008 10:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention...
…2007 LSU. They lost their last game before the SECCG. OTS is right though, it usually takes an extraordinary set of circumstances for that to happen.
by Kenny483 on Dec 10, 2008 7:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This schedule is perfect for next year.
We will have QB issues early on so not having a UGA on the early schedule is good and gives us the chance to grow as a team. VA Tech will add all the legitimacy we need in the early going. There will be sniping about our soft schedule and we will be overlooked again going into the SECCG. But we will have focused on one thing for a solid 12 months — beating Tebow. Playing (and beating Tebow) in the SECCG next season will almost certainly put us in the BCS Championship game. Beating Tebow is really all we need to do — I think its a perfect schedule.
by wey on Dec 9, 2008 9:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hey anybody...
…want some Bama Hunchpunch? Equal parts Koolaid and Everclear!
by Bama philosophe on Dec 9, 2008 9:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hey now
that doesn’t sound too far fetched. we’re getting an extra month of practice to prepare for a team that runs a similar system to florida, as long as we beat VA tech to start it off, we should be undefeated come december 5. and who do you think will be (6 yards) behind center for the team we have to face? tebow, at florida. beat them, and the sniping about our OOC schedule doesn’t matter. especially considering the SEC will have won the last 3 straight titles at that point.
by tempebamafan on Dec 10, 2008 2:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
unless kiffin or bobby louwder (sp?)
has their boys in shape enough to challenge by next fall, we’ll be favorites in each of those conference games…
by tempebamafan on Dec 10, 2008 2:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Two Cents.
Looks to me as though you have two, maybe three losses at most out of the bunch. I could see VA Tech giving you a run for your money on neutral ground as you break in a new QB and the trip to Ole Miss could be dangerous. Tennessee or Auburn could always jump up and snare you in a trap, too. If I had to guess, I’d say you’ll be 11-1 heading into the SEC Championship Game next season. See you there!
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by ejruiz on Dec 9, 2008 11:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Two words
Nougaty. Center.
That is a taffy soft schedule, and we all know it. Ut-Chatt? Ugh. FIU? I think UT-Chatt would go into OT with them. North Texas? Have you seen what Todd Dodge has done to the Mean Green? There’s respectable Sun Belt, then there’s UNT.
Soooo, two Sun Blechs and a 1-AA is not compensated for by Va Tech on a neutral field. This is shameful and we will (rightly) be called out for this.
"penis fish"…google that, and the candiru is the first thing that pops up
by Stuck in the Plains on Dec 10, 2008 9:44 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
totally agree
When you are an Alabama fan you have to hate Auburn, I hate Tennessee because i want to.
by bammer on Dec 10, 2008 10:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As long as...
…we’re called out for it and winning, for this season, I’m still aight with it.
by NiceLittleSaturday on Dec 10, 2008 10:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If we are going to play a D-1AA school
I wish we would look to some Historically Black Colleges like Grambling or something, If only for the Band at halftime.
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by That Other Dave on Dec 10, 2008 10:06 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I heard on the radio
and I always question the validity of radio reports, but weren’t we supposed to have Notre Dame for a home and home starting in 2009?
Alabama judges its team by national and SEC titles. Auburn judges its team by how many times it beats Alabama. You tell me who the dominant team in the state is.
by Nose Guard on Dec 10, 2008 2:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Notre Dame...
…wouldn’t make the trip. They couldn’t get the necessary yardage.
by NiceLittleSaturday on Dec 10, 2008 2:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
*rimshot*
Alabama judges its team by national and SEC titles. Auburn judges its team by how many times it beats Alabama. You tell me who the dominant team in the state is.
by Nose Guard on Dec 10, 2008 2:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't say
“rimshot” around Jimmy Clausen too often.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2006/04/30/2002963482.jpg
"penis fish"…google that, and the candiru is the first thing that pops up
by Stuck in the Plains on Dec 10, 2008 2:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
dont we have Penn St
for a home and home starting in 2010?
by tempebamafan on Dec 10, 2008 2:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yes
and I think there’s a home-and-home with Georgia Tech at some point as well.
by rugman11 on Dec 10, 2008 2:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
PSU is in 2010-2011.
GA Tech is in 2013-2014. We also are @Duke in 2010.
by rugman11 on Dec 10, 2008 3:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Will Paterno
be like 110 years old by then?
Alabama judges its team by national and SEC titles. Auburn judges its team by how many times it beats Alabama. You tell me who the dominant team in the state is.
by Nose Guard on Dec 10, 2008 3:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think GaTech is in
2012 (Tuscaloosa) and 2014 (Atlanta) if I remember correctly.
2010 will be interesting home and away. I think it pans out like this with two home OOC cupcakes TBA:
Home:
Penn State
Auburn
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Florida
Away:
Duke
Arkansas
Tennessee
LSU
South Carolina
by Nico2.0 on Dec 10, 2008 5:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think we should roll out
the Bryant-esque Option Ambush. That would make for a very very retro game!
"penis fish"…google that, and the candiru is the first thing that pops up
by Stuck in the Plains on Dec 11, 2008 9:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
this years final home stretch was the shit
Arky State-SHUT OUT
Miss St-7
Auburn-SHUT OUT
hahaha
Hell, no! A tie is like kissing your sister!
by comer4tide on Dec 10, 2008 5:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
and, umm.... 31 :(
"penis fish"…google that, and the candiru is the first thing that pops up
by Stuck in the Plains on Dec 10, 2008 7:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

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