Jimmy Johns=Gigantic Idiot

I thought I would repost my comment and see if anyone knows what would happen to Johns.

It does not look god for Johns. He got caught dealing if I understand the article correctly. I would have to assume if it is true that would get you kicked out of school, no? I would think that would be a university policy.

http://www.tidesports.com/article/20080624/NEWS/168614056/1011

can play lb…b/c that’s about how far we’re reaching at that position right now.

Not good. Oh well. Another month, another problem of some kind.

This should move us up the list. At this rate no players will be gray shirting.

That frees up a scholarship!

Frankly, I feel for the guy on a personal level, but hey, its not anybody else’s fault other than his that this has happened. And I am glad the Jimmy John’s saga is over. Never before has a player been so popular for so little onfield output. Other than the comments from Sylvester Croom about how he’d never play QB at Alabama, him fumbling away the ball in the Louisiana Monroe game, and the one good memory, him forcing the special teams fumble against Mississippi State, we frankly should have never even heard this guy’s name. Nonetheless, he was popular with the fan base for some reason.

This is not an issue for Coach Saban to handle. We’re talking about someone being charged with five counts of distribution of cocaine, and that is the type of thing that, if found guilty, gets you sent to prison for many years. This is just like the Elder deal… It’s not even within Saban’s control. Unless this turns out to be a huge case of mistaken identity, I imagine that he will be kicked off the team, but it will be a pointless gesture. At the moment this thing is solely between Johns and the legal authorities.

Second, if this involves other players on the team - and I will explicitly state up front that I have seen no evidence whatsoever to date that would yield that conclusion - this thing will explode. If you think it’s bad now, just wait and see what it’s like if a couple of more people get involved with this.

who his roommate is? I would think if other players are involved his roommate would be one of them.

I had heard he was dealing, guess it is better it happened now and not in the season.
I just hope there are no others on the team involved.

That is amazing. He was caught selling drugs 5 separate times. I believe in innocent until proven guilty, but that is a tough hill to climb.

but it just a shame that much talent had to go to waste with that little of a brain. The karma of the shula recruiting of players is still on. When will it end?

When you’re selling cocaine? The guy was probably rolling in cash. I’m sure he didn’t just start dealing to these undercover cops. Question, ... and not trying to start something here … but have any of the SABAN recruits got into trouble, or has it only been the SHULA recruits so far? I am thinking that there has to be at least one SABAN recruit that did something, but for the life of me I can’t think of one.

...things like this impact recruiting. You know parents can’t be too happy about this kind of stuff.

He was a 2 star out of College Park, GA. I guess because his impact was so small and arrest for robbing 2 students so STUPID, we all try to forget. I’m not blaming Shula, because I believe that each player makes his own choices whether the coach, parents or mentors try to steer them right. At the end of the day, he made the choice. Plain and simple.

not the kind of headline i was hoping to Jimmy Johns’ name in. i just hope for his sake that he’s got no prior’s and that it was in powder form, because he could be looking at 10 or more years in prison as a BEST CASE SCENARIO. i shudder to think about what he’ll face if they use “repeat offender” or “three strikes” statute’s against him, coupled with increased time for rock over powder (say what you want, but laws that make crack a bigger crime than coke are inherently applied to minorities over whites, some might say they’re racist) he could be looking at 25 + years. and when you consider that his arrest was announced in the media, that makes it far less likely that he will be used as an informant to help himself reduce his sentence. (you think he can go back to HIS dealer now and re-up with a wire on?)....this just sucks in so many ways. what a dumbass, but his consequences are going to far outweigh his transgressions. and oh yeah, this does cast a serious cloud over our recruiting efforts i think. two players booted for felonies in one off season.

I’m speechless….don’t even know what to think right now. F*!!!!

From Snyder of the West. Ala. Narcotics squad that Johns took pains to make it clear nobody on the team knew about this, and that he was actively hiding this from them.

This just ruins my day. For over a year, I’ve been saying “where’s Johns?” and my dad and I were excited and hoping this position would be a good fit for him. A terrible loss.

upon hearing the news brian cook immediately raced to his computer posted a snarky entry on fanhouse and then slathered himself in johnson and johnsons and proceeded to indulge himself in a torrid ten minutes of self pollution.

and hire someone to shadow Prince hall to make sure he wakes ups, goes to class, and is in bed by 8:00pm latest. JK
On the bright side in about 2-3 years we are going to have to incredibly experienced LBS bc we are gonna have alot a youngsters out there competing for a starting job.

looks like a lot of playing time this year for the freshmen (upshaw, hightower and harris). i guess the upside will be that they’ll be better for it next year.

WTF are these kids thinking??!!? You’re getting a free ride at a damn good college that most people would die for and you go do something as stupid as this. Don’t give me that “Its his culture” Bull Shit. This kid is a degenerate, plain and simple. I grew up pretty damn poor and i never sunk down as far to sell coke!! What a F*@#! dumbass. I hope they give him the max!

BTW… Im not pissed because my football team will suffer. Im pissed because our culture is heading towards the crap hole.

We talk a lot about how things like this will impact recruiting. There are all kind of seemingly minor things that we wonder if it will impact recruiting but in Shula’s defense we were going through a difficult probationary period. I know I am not breaking any new ground here but that had to be a difficult sell. “You can come here and play on scholarship however, (nothing good ever follows the word however) you cannot go to a bowl game, regardless of our season’s record you cannot play for a national title and all of this lack of exposure will certainly impact your NFL draft status.” I am sure they didn’t word it just like that. When you weed out all of the recruits that just didn’t want to start behind the eight ball you have to deal with what’s left. For the most part, not the cream of the crop. That is not meant to take away from the good people playing on the team. I am talking about a minority…. I hope.

I can tell you that all of these factors weighed heavily in my decision not to play for the Tide during the Shula era and I have been a diehard fan ever since I was old enough to speak. Well, to be honest, there were other factors to consider. I was 36 years old, 2 kids, I didn’t play football and nobody asked me to play but I’m just saying…...

I am not overly suprised that we have had problems from Shula recruits. He just didn’t have much to sell to a player who had a future to look after. I am just trying to remember Mike Shula as that beloved son of The Crimson Tide who, among other things, helped set up moments like Van Tiffin’s kick. I hate that he was ever hired as head coach and for more reasons than his record. His time as head coach will always get in the way of his real legacy which was on the field.

One thing about drug dealers though. Most of them don’t use. That would cut into the profits and eventually get them in serious trouble with the supplier. Especially crack , which I don’t think he was dealing based upon the dollar amount reported in the article, one crack rock costs around $20.00. If he sold $500.00 worth of crack to an undercover officer at one time then he would be more of a supplier than a dealer. It was probably powder though that has not been revealed in the reports. One kilo of powder cocaine is worth about $30,000.00 street value these days.

I know these things because I sell catfish out of a pickup. Same basic principle. I’m just kidding…. Google.

You are right though I think. The thug mentality that goes along with drug sales, lack of respect for the law or authority goes hand in hand with everything that you said as well as his obvious inability to respect Coach Saban’s authority on the team. I think that it is a very good point that you make. One that I have not heard anyone else make.

IMHO… Good riddance JJ. If any other players end up being involved, then good riddance to them as well. If we have to vomit out the “bad chicken” then let’s do it now. Let’s not have a situation like this surface this time next year when the rebuilding process is starting to come to fruition.

The situation with our beloved Crimson Tide has been deteriorating since the mid to late 90’s. We cannot fix a decade of such deterioration in a year or two. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

This country went to the moon on that theory.

At this point there is no reason to think that any other players are involved, but if they are, IMHO let it come out and take the hit now. 2008 we are 9-3. In 2009 we are contending again and we don’t want to have to deal with it then.

I can’t really say anything else that you guys haven’t already said, but man, this sucks!! I had internet problems all morning at work and then I come home for lunch to this shit!! I have been thinking the rest of the day and I can never remember any athlete at Bama EVER selling drugs…is this a first? I hope so, and the last one too. It’s not just the person that makes this so bad to me, but the fact that the person was selling drugs. I know these guys aren’t rich by no means, but damn, at least make money honestly. He did more than hurt himself by doing this, he was helping support peoples drug habits. You know ” Cocaine is a power drug” – Rick James.

BWAAAAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA

I know the recruiting angle has already been brought up, but has anyone noticed that the kid from Indiana, Jordan Barnes, instead of waiting until tomorrow to commit has already given a verbal to Richie Rod. Wonder why!

In the past Saban has always stated that he wants to gather all the facts before makiing any decisions or comments. Not this time, must have been somme pretty solid facts and or evidence. I think the fact that he immediately dismissed J.J. from the team says a few things. 1) It was probably already out of his hands. 2) That drugs and more specifically selling them is a zero tolerance in his program, And 3) there was not any doubt of J.J.’s guilt. Lastly this team has got to come together, they’ve got to be on the same page. This wasn’t one of those pages. If they want to win a championship everybody has to be accountable not only to their selves but each other. ON THE SAME PAGE. Coach Bryant knew what it took, and I have no doubt Saban does too. ONE HEART BEAT. Same page, same goal, same focus, same heart beat. I think CS is bringing in the right players I just hope the bad apples do not ruin the good ones. Anyway just had to clear the head, thanks for letting me ramble (roll on). Roll Tide Roll. 1HB

Cecil had a great editorial on the Jimmy Johns saga. It is a good read.

http://www.tidesports.com/article/20080625/NEWS/933669776/1067/NEWS

Previous thoughts on JJ posted on this site:

http://www.rollbamaroll.com/2006/11/1/10530/5081

now that was a reality check blast from the past. It is amazing when I think back on all the Saban pressers from last year and how someone always asked about Jimmy Johns. No one has ever been asked about so much. We all wanted so bad for him to succeed. Also, check out Bama Phreak’s sig-Crimson glasses on and drinking the Crimson Kool-aid. In 2005, before the end of the LSU game, I was guity of that too.