Jimmy Johns Violated NCAA Rules
When word first broke of the Jimmy Johns pit bull website, I was afraid that if it were legitimate that he would be having some NCAA issues. And according to the latest article by Tide Sports, that is indeed correct.
Under NCAA rules, student-athletes are allowed to establish a business but cannot use their “name, photograph, appearance or athletics reputation” to promote the business. Bylaw 12.5.2.1 states that a student-athlete will lose eligibility if he “accepts any remuneration for or permits the use of his or her name or picture to advertise, recommend or promote directly the sale or use of a commercial product or service of any kind.”
In other words, Johns using his name and likeness to help promote his upstart pit bull business was a violation of NCAA rules, and would have cost him his eligibility retroactive to when the site began (apparently in March of 2008).
The issue is a moot point now for Alabama, because ultimately nothing ever came of it. Johns' loss of eligibility is an issue solely between him and the NCAA, and it would have never became an issue unless UA became aware of the situation and allowed him to compete athletically anyway. Obviously, given Johns' arrest for cocaine distribution, he never was able to play while ineligible, and more to the point, according to UA Athletic Department spokesman Jeff Purinton the university did not find out about the situation until yesterday.
Also according to the same article, Johns bought two pit bulls from a breeder in Montgomery. Those breeders went on the record as stating that none of their dogs are used for fighting, and denied that the dogs were used for any illegal activity. According to the same statement, the breeders checked on the two dogs that Johns purchased and found them to be healthy and well cared for. So, at least Johns apparently wasn't doing any dog fighting or anything of that nature, my speculation would be that he was probably using them either as pets or as security, or both, or simply as a way to make a few more bucks. Though the web site was set up for the sale of pit bulls, there doesn't seem to be any evidence that he ever actually sold one of the pit bulls. He bought two, and he apparently had those same two at the time of his arrest several months after the initial purchase.
Anyway, again, it's all a moot point in this situation. Johns was dismissed immediately when all of this was found out, and he never played in any athletic contests while ineligible. However, it should reinforce the fact that we may have dodged a bullet with this one. Make no mistake about it, Jimmy Johns lost his collegiate eligibility the second that web site went up, and had he played in any football games this season we could have found ourselves in hot water with the NCAA. I am, of course, fully convinced that our compliance department would have properly dealt with the situation when the news first broke with Johns regarding the site, and would have swiftly banned him for participating any further (which shouldn't create any issues for the university), but you know how dealing with the NCAA goes. Bottom line, you always want to stay as far away from them as possible, and Johns still being on the football field would have brought the two parties much closer.
Again, thankfully that's not an issue any more. We may very well have dodged a bullet yesterday with the dismissal of Jimmy Johns.
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read the same thing. Man this situation just gets worse. Is there anyway, since was on campus, effect Alabama with NCAA? I hope not. Bad desicions! When is everyone gonna learn that if it does not come from the earth leave it alone.
Auburn fans are like slinkys... not really good for anything but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.
No...
The sale of drugs on campus doesn’t have anything to do with the NCAA.
It’s a black eye publicly, but that’s it.
by outsidethesidelines on Jun 25, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
the website
I saw the website-which LifelongBammer dug up on the last post-and immediately went, whoa! He’s got fotos of himself in uniform! And . . . yeek.
Looks like the site is down as of just a few minutes ago. Google doesn’t appear to have a cache of it, and Wayback Machine is also emptyhanded; it’s that recent. Just a GoDaddy registrant, nothing much more sophisticated.
This enterprise brings up a whole ‘nother level of questioning. Players are sophisticated, and certainly know that they can’t lend their name to anything of this sort. Heck, it’s been drilled into all of us since we were kids. Was Johns wanting to quit and do this instead? Start a post-college business?
Never quit. It is the easiest cop-out in the world.
Who knows?
Maybe you are right, I don’t know. At this point I don’t think anyone knows what was going through his head.
by outsidethesidelines on Jun 25, 2008 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I don’t think so. I think he just doesn’t have any respect for rules. This has been a problem with him from the beginning. Or maybe he doesn’t bother to check to see if it is a violation of the rules before he does something. Who knows though. I think there is probably more money in selling cocaine than there is in selling dogs. Many municipalities now have an across the board ban on these dogs by oridinance so it can’t be good business…. but then again, neither is selling cocaine to Police Officers.
by LifelongBammer on Jun 25, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Your right
John’s arrest could have helped Bama dodge a bullet. You can only wonder what might have happened if JJ played this fall and then it comes out he had this business. I mean could we have had to forfiet every game he played in? Looks like we might need to hire someone full time to google every football player’s name every few days just to check up on these guys.
Student Athlete Compliance
I think, and they may already have this for all I know, that maybe it is time to establish a student NCAA compliance course for student athletes. These young men and women are attending college on an athletic scholarship whether they are playing football or softball. They should know the rules and I don’t really think it is really reasonable to expect a 19 to 23 year old student , young adult, to be able to interpret the vastly intricate and often ridiculously prohibitive ( I know I am butchering the English lanquage and the spelling thereof ) rules layed out by the NCAA. Especially since it takes highly educated attorneys sometimes months of research to interpret them. The problem is, you would probably have to find a Chinese Algebra Professor to teach this course.
That being said, I would like to say this. When I made that post regarding this web site on the previous thread it was not my intention to stir up more dirt on JJ. I found this site a couple of months ago by accident because of several factors: I am a web developer, a rabid crimson bleeding lifelong Bama fan and I have a sister who is a professional dog trainer who believes that all full blooded pit bulls should be drowned at birth…. and she has a whole list of reasons why. All of these factors combined… free access to Google and you get www.jimmyjohnsbitbulls.com This site was ressurected again today on a thread on al.com and having seen it before I had one of those “Oh Yeah” moments.
I just wanted to point out that I did not bring that up to bring any more criticism on JJ. Although I do not support what he did, he has enough problems right now without my help.
by LifelongBammer on Jun 25, 2008 9:29 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
great idea
I think such a course would be a great idea, but it should be the responsibility of the University to help the players navigate through the technicalities. Infractions can harm both school and player.
Never quit. It is the easiest cop-out in the world.

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