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The Crimson and White Roundtable: Whatever Week This Is

Yeah, I forgot to line up a host this week, so instead of throwing the last minute burden of coming up with questions this week on someone else, we'll just host again here. As always, any Bama bloggers (or Bama fans that have a blog) are welcome to participate, just make sure you e-mail us a link to your response to rollbamaroll -at- gmail.com so we'll know you played along at home. On to the questions.

 

1. And the Valley Shook recently posted their thoughts on "Saban the Disciplinarian." As LSU partisans, they have a lot more experience with Coach Saban than we do, and I'm interested in your thoughts on why we feel like Saban is the man to restore discipline in Tuscaloosa.

I'm cheating a little here, since I already answered in the comments of that post:

 

 

I think the biggest reason Alabama fans think Saban will restore discipline in Tuscaloosa is the simple fact he’s a great recruiter and is going to get kids that are already of the mindset that they have to work hard, do the right things, and stay out of trouble to win. That sort of attitude was/is almost completely gone from Alabama, so expecting a fresh group of players that aren’t used to a lax culture and fully believe they can do whatever they want and get away with it to cut down on those problems is a fairly realistic proposition.

 

To go a little deeper, though, I'll add this thought. I've never been one to think that coaches should be baby sitters. Their job is to bring in the best talent they can and teach them to be the best football players they can be, and that's really where it ends. Some of that does necessarily mean teaching them to be good people though. To paraphrase Saban himself, if you can't count on a player to take care of their personal business like going to class and staying out of trouble, then how can you rely on them to do their jobs on the field? But beyond that, though, we are often quick to forget that we are dealing with college aged kids, prone to the same poor decision making and opportunities for trouble that the rest of their peers are also exposed to. This isn't trying to excuse the outright criminality of Elder and Johns, who didn't succumb to the kind of "wrong place, wrong time", heat of the moment trouble of Simeon Castille or Rashad Johnson, but it is to say that, when all is said and done, the kind of knee jerk punishments some of the more vocal members of our fan base (and certainly our rivals) called for were stupid and short minded. Kicking a kid off the team for the kind of arrest any one of us could have just as likely picked up in a college town on a Saturday night is dumb, and so long as we can count on Saban to do whatever it takes to make sure those offenders learn their lesson (be it suspensions or just extra stadiums) while also continuing to bring in guys that he doesn't have to worry about giving a black eye to the team and program, then that's disciplinarian enough for me.

 

2. And on that note, what's your gut instinct on any further arrests before the start of the season?

 

Gut instinct, Johns was the last. He was investigated enough that I'm more than comfortable believing that no other members of the team were involved. Crow as our rivals might about "Saban knew, and there's more of them!", no one has bothered to read between the obvious lines that a drug ring run by a group of Alabama football players would be such a huge bust that there's no way they'd grab Johns and be done with it, and they certainly wouldn't just take his word for it that no one else was involved. As for the other petty arrests that we piled up, the Strip is now off limits and they'll be bone tired from fall camp anyway, so I doubt they'll be feeling up to searching out trouble.

 

3. On a forward looking note, name the game you are most excited about this coming season and why.

 

Clemson, kids. It's the first game of the year, and even though it might get ugly for us quickly, it's still the start of a whole new season of football and I am chomping at the bit for it.

 

4. What's the game you are dreading the most?

 

The Third Saturday in October. I just have a bad feeling about playing up there this year, and I'm really afraid a loss there could send the team into another late season downward spiral. It's probably a needless worry since the team should be both physically and mentally tougher this year, but after years of late season woes, it just makes me extra nervous and especially infuriated thinking that a loss to the Vols (boo! hiss!) might be what ruins the rest of the season.

 

5. Finally, give me the dream play you want to see posted in YouTube form on every football blog this season involving the Crimson Tide.

 

A down to the wire slugfest with Auburn, where the Teagles, needing a TD to win, manage to drive to the Alabama four with only seven seconds left, only to see Kareem Jackson thwart their last ditch effort with a timely interception...and then an elephant appears as if from nowhere to trample the intended receiver.

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That would be the greatest ending ever!

Also, champing at the bit not chomping.

The games I am most fearful of are the games we are supposed to win. I would like to go a season winning all the games we are supposed to win. If we are ever going to be back, we will need that to happen.

by Kenny483 on Jul 7, 2008 12:42 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dude....

“Champing” at the bit?? Are you serious??

by sandman227 on Jul 8, 2008 7:04 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Afraid so...

...it is one of those idioms that is always mispronounced or misunderstood. It is one of those completely irrelevant things that I know.

by Kenny483 on Jul 8, 2008 8:09 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just did a bit of research...

...on the interwebs. If the few sites I’ve seen are to be believed the difference between “champing at the bit” and “chomping at the bit is merely a UK vs US usage. Kind of like “colour” vs. “color” or “centre” vs. “center.” Most of what I saw said both usages are correct and are merely regional variants. Several dictionaries I consulted had “chomp” as an acceptable variant of “champ.”

by Nico2.0 on Jul 9, 2008 3:25 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That ending....

Would make me turn prematurely gray. Especialy with our lack of closing out close games and OT losses over the last fews yrs. I would personaly like to see 56-7 with Terry Grants 75 yd scamper as the highlight or julio’s 3td 175 yd effort.

Auburn fans are like slinkys... not really good for anything but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.

by IHC800 on Jul 7, 2008 1:09 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Discipline

I agree with you that people can get a little over exuberant about discipline. I think it’s one thing to talk about Elder’s armed robbery charge or Johns’ drug dealing charge, but personally I could give a crap if a guy gets into a shoving match with a bar bouncer. Hell, in my experience, at least half the time it’s the bar bouncer who’s being overly aggressive in those situations. Now, if a guy is getting into arguments with bouncers once every couple of months, you may have a problem, but other than that I really don’t think fans should worry so much about hte little stuff.

Richard Pittman

by Richard Pittman on Jul 7, 2008 8:27 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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