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Phil Steele Unleashed

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In case you missed it, college football's data-crunching cyborg of justice, Phil Steele, was featured on EDSBS Live last night with an hour of unfiltered NCAA gridiron glory. You remember how in the Matrix movies they plug the wires in the back of people's head and download information? It was kind of like that.

He covered just about everything you want to know about all the major players and a few of the non majors as well. He explained a few of the more confounding points in this year's book as well.

As for us, he comes bearing grim tidings. He projects 7-8 wins for the Tide and finishing 3rd in the SEC West (with Auburn projected as the champion).

Basically he seems to think last year was something of an anomaly. A tougher schedule for '08 allied with the continued phasing in of Saban's recruits equals another step in the process rather than any kind of promised land.

Overall though he talked as rapidly as possible for a full hour about the 2008 season and it was a beautiful thing to behold with more than a month and a half left out here in the wilds of the offseason.

The main page of EDSBS Live is here but you can download last night's show here (be warned, it's a pretty big mp3 file).

::UPDATE:: I've culled the almost three minute segement of Steele talking specifically about Bama into a seperate audio file you can access here.

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...that 7-8 wins isn’t grim at all. If we finish the regular season with 7-8 wins this year I’ll be happy given the personnel we have to work with. When we’ve been struggling with (and sometimes losing to) mediocre competition and losing to Auburn and LSU like we have lately, I don’t know why people think more is going to magically happen quickly. The likelihood of JPW becoming Matt Leinart overnight is virtually nil, we have no linebackers, and a lot of other question marks, etc. We’d need a miracle-esque ‘05 season to achieve more than 8 wins I think…and even in ‘05 we finished third in the West. I still think we’re at least two more seasons away before we can begin seriously challenging for the west. A decade of mess can’t be mopped up in a year.

by Nico2.0 on Jul 9, 2008 6:46 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed

I will take winning the games we are supposed to win for a full year, as actual progress. I think like most people I am somewhat optimistic that JPW can rebound and have a season like his sophmore year where he was an above average SEC QB. Anything less than that, and more than 7 wins are out of the question.

I cannot wait to listen to the EDSBS Live. I am with Kleph, it is absolutely fascinating listening to Phil Steele speak. If you have ever read his publication, he speaks exactly like he writes. He packs more information in 60 seconds than anyone can possibly process.

by Kenny483 on Jul 9, 2008 7:16 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i will take

8 wins right now with no complaints. its not very often or very easy a team jumps more than a game or 2 in one year in the sec.

by gerry dorsey on Jul 9, 2008 8:35 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i meant his projected sec west champion when i called it “grim.” it presupposes a loss on nov. 29. and that would suck the suck of the ages.

but overall, yes, i think he is about on target concerning the outlook for this season (i haven’t been able to get a copy of his magazine yet so i can’t comment on his detailed analysis).

my impression of his comments last night were that next year will begin to see the real payoff of saban’s efforts. given the sad state shula left things, i think that’s an accurate and realistic assessment of the situation.

by kleph on Jul 9, 2008 10:00 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i’ve gone back and edited out the three-minute segment of steele talking about Bama into a separate audio file available here.

by kleph on Jul 9, 2008 3:50 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good Stuff

I went back and listened to the Phil Steele interview. I think he is pretty much dead on. We will probably not be favored in 5 games, of which 4 will be on the road. It is a tough schedule, and will require some great play if we are going to do better than 8 wins. I still maintain the important games, are the ones we are supposed to win. If we can handle the less talented teams with some more ease, I would feel better about the big games.

by Kenny483 on Jul 9, 2008 9:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Attention:

Do not ever bet on football. Don’t. Trust me on this. When I played college football I remember realizing one day at practice that you’d have to be retarded to ever think you had a football game figured out (just because there’s so much behind the scenes stuff that no one outside of the team knows about, like injuries/sour attitudes/coaching in-fighting/etc.).

Five or six years after I graduated I started gambling a little bit and started betting on college football. I did reasonably well most of the time, but lost big a couple times on some bets before I remembered my previous attitude.

Don’t bet on football.

by Bamagrad on Jul 9, 2008 9:40 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did

the booky find your new number or address? JK What is amazing about it is how well vegas can call a game. That 1/2 pt will get you evertime.

Auburn fans are like slinkys... not really good for anything but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.

by IHC800 on Jul 10, 2008 8:26 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Phil Steele Sucks

Phil Steele can’t pick a winner. It’s a proven fact, just check the Sports Monitor. His College predictions were well under 50% last year. I think Bama will finish in the Top 20 nationally in 2008. John Parker will improve and they are loaded at LB.

by BamaFan in FL on Jul 10, 2008 10:32 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Picking accurately

Predicting where teams are going to finish at the end of the season is an excersice in futility. Steele does it better than most, but if that is the only information you are trying to gleem from his publication you are missing a lot. He places a lot of information that can be very useful. The magazines and predictions are all for fun, but out of all the magazines I think Steele places the most useful information in his magazine.

by Kenny483 on Jul 11, 2008 8:44 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There is

value in his magazine. Don’t get me wrong, his analysis goes way beyond the average gambling rag. But I have too many buddies who are 50K+ in debt from gambling. I’ve had several who filed for bankruptcy because of gambling debt. My wife has a friend whose boyfriend can’t propose to her because he’s still paying off gambling debts. He makes a crapload of money, too, so when he has to work seven days a week and three or four hours of overtime a day just to pay off his debts from living in Vegas, you know it’s bad.

You can do what you like, but I’m just looking out for my fellow Bammers. I’ve seen too many people I know get hurt by gambling. It’s not worth it. I know some of you might think you can control it, but it will get you. You’ll start off betting just on one or two games. Next thing you know, you’re betting the Thursday night game even though you know nothing about either team playing. Then you bet your usual game on Saturday plus four or five others. Maybe you try a massive parlay to win 100K and like me, you think that because you picked eleven of thirteen that you somehow have a secret bank of knowledge that will carry you to victory. You don’t because you were simply lucky. You could have easily only picked four of thirteen.

Next thing you know, you’re picking NFL games, too, to make up for your losses Saturday. And thank God for Sunday night’s game, because that’s a last chance, and then if you’re up or down there’s Monday Night Football to put you even or way ahead.

Don’t do it, y’all. It’s not worth it. I know Phil Steele’s magazine isn’t purely a gambling mag, but I can take you to a few of my buddies’ houses where you’ll find a sheet of numbers, pluses, minuses, and X’d out team names.

by Bamagrad on Jul 11, 2008 9:23 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Meant to say
Don’t do it, y’all. It’s not worth it. I know Phil Steele’s magazine isn’t purely a gambling mag, but I can take you to a few of my buddies’ houses where you’ll find a sheet of numbers, pluses, minuses, and X’d out team names stuffed inside of the latest issue.

by Bamagrad on Jul 11, 2008 9:25 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Football Gambling

I agree betting on football is a risky proposition that usually leads to financial losses. Phil Steele ’s mag does have some useful data, but all in all his magazine is designed to lure bettors into sigining up for a season long “football investors package”. DO NOT BE FOOLED!!

I prefer Surefire Scouting’s new publications any day over the odd standbys. They are loaded with tons of info, are well designed and DO NOT FOCUS on gambling. If you have not checked them out, they’re definitely worth a look.

by BamaFan in FL on Jul 12, 2008 12:17 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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