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Tarence Farmer Not Returning

According to a variety of published reports, wide receiver Tarence Farmer will not be returning to Alabama this Fall.

Originally a late signee in the 2007 recruiting class out of Houston, Farmer committed to Alabama as a defensive back. He had a prior relationship with newly-hired Alabama OC Major Applewhite, and committed to Alabama a few days after Applewhite's arrival at Alabama. He played defensive back in his true freshman campaign at Alabama, but things never materialized there. This Spring, he was moved to wide receiver, where he didn't see a great deal of action either.

At this point, I don't know why Farmer is leaving. I would speculate that he has just chosen to transfer to a school closer to home, but again that's all speculation on my part. I would think it is an issue of playing time.

Either way, though I will have to crunch the numbers later, I do believe Farmer's departure -- assuming Zeke Knight does not return -- will trim the roster just enough to where we can bring in 25 players this Fall without exceeding the NCAA mandated limit of 85 players on scholarship at any given time.

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Best luck for him...

I hope he can find better luck wherever he ends up at, but I also hope that this doesn’t become a trend at UA where if someone gets stuck down the totem pole that they just leave and transfer.

by CaliforniaTide on Jul 9, 2008 10:07 PM CDT   0 recs

I'm afraid...

I also hope that this doesn’t become a trend at UA where if someone gets stuck down the totem pole that they just leave and transfer.

I’m afraid that’s going to be the case. The harsh truth of the matter is that the guys we are bringing in now are much better prospects than many of the guys we brought in during 2006 and 2007. It’s just a harsh reality that the more these guys see their prospects for meaningful playing time grow dim, the more likely they are to transfer.

Zach Schreiber saw it last September, Tremayne Coger saw it this Spring, and Tarence Farmer apparently saw it this summer. Those three most certainly won’t be the last.

by outsidethesidelines on Jul 9, 2008 11:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I can never remember...

...but do these transfers hurt our APR?

by Nico2.0 on Jul 10, 2008 12:51 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

No...

These kids are leaving in good academic standing.

Thankfully, our APR is looking pretty dang good in football. We’ve made a lot of progress the past few years.

by outsidethesidelines on Jul 10, 2008 8:17 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I think

Thats what most people were afraid of when we signed such a large/ talented class. That the kids that came here a few years ago would be “forgotton” amongst all the talent.

Don't take life to seriously, you'll never get out alive.

by bammer on Jul 10, 2008 4:52 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Why on earth...

did mgoblog have this story on their main page… and why do the commenters have to just naturally assume he was cut/forced into wanting to quit?

I did see one article stating this puts the team at 63 schollies for this upcoming season though.

by formerlyanonymous on Jul 10, 2008 1:35 PM CDT   0 recs

Despite his obsession with Alabama's recruiting practices...

...I have to give Cook credit for his music tastes. When Schembechler died, he used Sufjan Stevens’ “Seven Swans” as a tribute (a beautiful song) and now he currently has “Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Blogging in Space” at the top of his blog which is a reference to one of the most awesome Spiritualized songs ever written (and probably one of my top 10 tracks of the 1990s.)

by Nico2.0 on Jul 10, 2008 3:05 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That...

That bunch is obsessed with our signing class, simple as that.

As for the scholarship numbers, I think the departure of Lionell Mitchell put us at 63. Now the departure of Farmer will put us at 62, and as long as Zeke Knight doesn’t return, that gives us 61. With that said, given Neighbors’ flexibility, 61 could work.

Still, though, I think we’ll probably end up with more room than that. I wouldn’t be surprised to see another guy go on medical scholarship, we’ll probably have another guy or two quit, and Colin Peek might not go on scholarship until 2009. Moreover, Prince Hall might not return. All of that could combine to open up a lot more space than we think.

by outsidethesidelines on Jul 10, 2008 4:51 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

So how many

guys from this years current recruiting class who are now at a JUCO type school going to affect next years class? As in the total amount of kids we can sign.

Don't take life to seriously, you'll never get out alive.

by bammer on Jul 10, 2008 4:54 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

JUCO

The two players that went to JUCO would not be eligible to enroll at Alabama until they have graduated from the two-year college. I assume they would not count until 2010.

by Kenny483 on Jul 10, 2008 5:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I wondered the same thing, formerlyanonymous

I have a great deal of respect for Brian, who, on his best days, is a remarkably intelligent and articulate football fan with a nuanced, insightful approach to the sport. He also has a genuine devotion to encouraging fellow bloggers and the BlogPoll he founded and administers is among the most credible and long-lived products of the blogosphere.

That said, Brian sometimes gets his teeth into something and won’t let it go, and he’s decided that this is his thing. That’s fine when he has a point to make--and, as the much more impartial Sunday Morning Quarterback found when he examined the issue, Brian is not without a point when he condemns the practice of oversigning—but, in a case like this, he’s just grinding axes.

After initially demonizing Nick Saban in an effort to deflect criticisms of Rich Rodriguez which did not come from anywhere near Alabama, Brian backpedaled before turning one kid’s departure from Tuscaloosa into a front-page story which carried implications his readers clearly understood but which he could not make explicit because he had just finished excoriating a newspaper columnist for drawing critical conclusions about coaches on the basis of scant evidence, and turning right around and doing the same thing to Coach Saban would have been too obviously hypocritical, particularly after the recent well-maybe-he’s-not-pure-evil-but-he’s-still-kind-of-evil concession.

Again, I have a lot of respect for Brian--there’s a reason why I dubbed him “The Lawgiver”—but, sometimes, stuff just sticks with him and there’s no changing his mind. It’s just one of those things, like the time Brian criticized me for voting four S.E.C. teams in the top ten on my BlogPoll ballot and, when I politely pointed out that I had done no such thing, I received no response . . . no apology, no recanting, not even an acknowledgment, even though he was plainly wrong and I was plainly right.

As with his about-faces on Les Miles and the 2006 national title game, it’s just one of those things. You just have to throw up your hands, shake your head sadly with regret, overlook the fact that he’s a closet Auburn fan (I hate Auburn), and let it go so you can get back to focusing on the rest of what Brian does, which is exceptional, deserving of praise, and more than sufficient to overcome these occasional frustrating forays into contrarianism.

On a happier note, I received my copy of Yea Alabama and I have read much of it. Y’all did fine work, indeed. Congratulations and kudos.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 10, 2008 7:47 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Seriously...

...does EVERYONE have a copy of the book except me?! I’m just going to have to go to Books a Million and buy a copy of my own freaking book!

by Todd on Jul 10, 2008 8:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Well...

If it makes you feel any better, I don’t have one either.

And Kyle… you know, you really do have to love UGA fans. Literally, they hate the exact same damn things that we hate, and there’s really just something special about that.

by outsidethesidelines on Jul 10, 2008 10:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Totally agree on that one

I was surprised by the Georgia fan from Jonathan Tu’s very well-written piece in Yea Alabama; I have never before heard or heard of a Georgia fan speaking any more ill of Alabama than a grumbling expression of grudging respect.

Admittedly, there have only been a limited number of games between the two teams in my lifetime, but I’ve never had a problem with Alabama people and my father (a devout Georgia fan, as are all of my people) has always spoken glowingly of Bear Bryant. Likewise, although I have criticized Nick Saban when I thought he deserved it, I’ve tried to give him the considerable credit that is his due, as well, and I generally like the guy’s approach to coaching. (I also think anyone who believes in the Protestant work ethic most of us were taught here in the South ought to take a dim view of the new recruiting “dead period,” which was imposed to benefit guys who weren’t willing to work as hard but didn’t want to be disadvantaged by other guys’ devotion to their jobs.)

The bottom line is that any group of people who take the attitude that beating Auburn and Tennessee are high priorities is a bunch of folks who are all right by me.

If any of y’all are coming to Athens this fall, let me know and we’ll be sure to cross paths.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 10, 2008 11:29 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Poor Form

It is not an instance of cognitive dissonance when the 2 ideas are not diametrically opposed (I can use big words too OMG). On one hand, Rosenberg isn’t jumping to conclusions based on too few facts, he’s blantantly ignoring what is actually happening to write a shitty article. This is just a pure lie:

“This whole thing could have, and should have, been settled long ago. But RichRod was determined to fight West Virginia all the way to the bitter end. Anybody who has even driven past a law school knew he had no case, but that didn’t matter to Rodriguez. “

Michigan has top 5 law school. Bill Martin is a savvy businessman. RichRod had an agreement with Michigan to pay $1.5M of the buyout. RichRod was not determined to fight WVU all the way, UM was make a calculated effort that spending $200k on lawyers could result in reducing the buyout by more than $200k. This is what rational people do. They evaluate costs and benefits.

As to the other hand, saying Brian is jumping to conclusions on the Bama player, I point to Occam’s Razor to explain it. Also the quote: “Asked by phone if Farmer had decided to transfer from Alabama, she replied, “Now that he would have to answer, but he doesn’t want to speak right now.”” is pretty fucking clear in its answer. Of course I can’t be 100% sure, but fuck, I can’t be 100% sure that the sun’s going to rise tomorrow and I’ll be alive, can I?

by Daniel L on Jul 11, 2008 12:08 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Well, as long as we're being reasonable about it

“Not 100% sure” and “no evidence” are two different things.

Sorry if my vocabulary intimidated you, Daniel.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 11, 2008 7:33 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Don't get me wrong

I appreciate a high level discourse with complete sentences. To be honest, very few arguments out of the south are as elegantly phrased as yours was. Anytime I can debate with someone that properly uses (if misapplies) cognitive dissonance, I will jump at the opportunity. However, I think you undermine your credibility by using Rosenberg as an example of anything. For whatever reason, a vast majority of the Michigan press would rather destroy UM than support it. If you want something actually close to the truth, read Angelique Chengelis in the Free Press.

Also, citing Brian’s change on Les Miles isn’t fair to what Brian was saying. In the first article (4 months before the 2nd) Brian is seeking to remove expectations that Les would be the next coach. He wasn’t saying he’s a bad coach he didn’t want. He simply was saying that he didn’t believe the current administration would be amiable to having a coach that said ”...fucking Alabama”. The following article was a “hey, he is a good coach, we need a good coach, come on down”, and was written while Michigan was reeling.

Following that with accusing Brian of trying to use Saban to deflect criticism from RR is asinine. The issue, once again, is that 70+32 > 85. The criticism (from Penn State and Purdue of all places) that recruits are not allowed to change their mind due to free will (http://www.daytondailynews.com/s/content/oh/story/sports/college/osu/2008/04/21/ddn042208sprichrod.html) Quote of note “You know what, it was my decision”.

I have a healthy respect for Georgia, and would be thrilled to have a home and home with them (or meet in a bowl game, preferably MNC in 2 years). I don’t, however, have respect for Alabama, and that’s probably not changing anytime soon.

by Daniel L on Jul 11, 2008 8:31 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Respect is earned.

You have to earn respect. I haven’t been overly thrilled with Saban’s actions at Alabama. Not because I think he’s a bad coach. I think he’s a terrific coach and is going to win big. I don’t like him because I feel the way he conducts business is not becoming of a University employee. I realize CFB is a minor league for the NFL, but when you suspend a player for a game (DJ Hall) then commute the sentence in half to try and win a football game, you compromise yourself in my eyes. I realize that after the game he said it was because it was senior day and the kid’s parents were there. However, RIGHT after the game he was asked if the suspension was a half suspension or a game suspension cut short and he responded “it is what it is”, and when pressed again said “what it is”. Now, I’m perfectly capable of understanding what he said. I’m also capable of calling to question why he would use a evasive non-answer to a direct question. I’m much more tolerant of people that screw up and admit it (Rick Ankiel) as opposed to people that deny what is obvious to everyone else (Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens).

“I will not be the coach at Alabama”. Can you trust this man?

by Daniel L on Jul 11, 2008 10:18 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Compliment/insult

T Kyle King,

I hope you enjoyed this back-handed compliment/insult.

“To be honest, very few arguments out of the south are as elegantly phrased as yours was.”

You are pretty smart for being from the South.

by Kenny483 on Jul 11, 2008 10:23 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, I caught that, too

By the way, Daniel L said the comment thread had been locked, but it seems to be working fine for me.

Oh, wait . . . he said Todd and Nico had locked the comment thread he was winning. Well, no wonder this one’s still open, then.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 11, 2008 2:47 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

it was closed for me too

granted i do come from michigan, but at least im on your guys side as far as brian being out of line on the last post.

disclaimer: i still think he oversigned and that was wrong. brian is only wrong for reporting a cut. i may or may not have posted a diary on mgoblog trying to talk reason into some of the commenters.

by formerlyanonymous on Jul 11, 2008 5:37 PM CDT   0 recs

Closed?

As far as I know the comments haven’t been closed today. Maybe Nico thought things were getting out of hand (though I don’t see how that might be the case) and did so, but I’m sure he would have said something about it.

by Todd on Jul 11, 2008 6:45 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

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