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#19 - Michigan vs Utah

Michigan vs Utah
August 30, 2008
Michigan Stadium
"The Big House"
Ann Arbor, MI

Why?: Another intriguing opening weekend matchup. The Utes should be a good mid-major team this year, while Michigan is converting to a completely different offensive approach sans the personnel to run it, and the first game of the season will go a long way towards telling us how each team should fare throughout the rest of it.

Who do I think will win?: Gut instinct is Utah. They return a lot of talent (I've already broken them down here) and should be very good this year. It's still a mid major going up against a BCS power, though, one that's d-line returns intact and has plenty of experience in the secondary to hopefully keep them in games if the new offense falters terribly. I'll stick with the Utes with the caveat that I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the Wolverines survive with a win.

Who do I hope will win?: Utah, duh. Recent unpleasantness aside, it's still a good underdog rooting interest.

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The Utes'...

...all red uniforms are some of my favorites.

by Nico2.0 on Aug 11, 2008 10:43 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah they aren't bad

im just not a fan of them being called the Utes…

Don't take life to seriously, you'll never get out alive.

by bammer on Aug 11, 2008 11:04 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

There are some that are not ok

But, like the Chippewa with CMU and the (largely tribal) UNC-Pembroke Indians, the Utes have been endorsed by the Ute tribe. Quite unlike the exterminated Illini or the ND Fightin’ Sioux.

by Stuck in the Plains on Aug 11, 2008 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

shit

man i didn’t even know they were a indian tribe….hell i feel really stupid right now. Usuallly i know about this stuff. I thought Utes was just short for Utah…...damn im an idiot. I will crawl back into my hole they call ignorance!!

Don't take life to seriously, you'll never get out alive.

by bammer on Aug 11, 2008 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man!!

Im really pissed i didn’t catch that!!

Don't take life to seriously, you'll never get out alive.

by bammer on Aug 11, 2008 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I practice tribal law

So, that largely explains why I know they’re a tribe…It’s 5:00 somewhere!
Cheers

by Stuck in the Plains on Aug 11, 2008 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fascinating
I practice tribal law

That is really interesting. What does that entail?

by Kenny483 on Aug 11, 2008 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

everything...

hate to be so vague, but you’re working with state, federal and tribal laws; making the case for one trumping another in any given environment. I largely do indian child welfare act adoptions; trust land estate planning and some commercial litigation in tribal courts (no gaming really…SD tribes are quite poor, unlike the far wealthier Cali or New England tribes, and even the Shakopee outside the Twin Cities).

by Stuck in the Plains on Aug 12, 2008 6:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess you're semi-correct.

Utah means “people of the mountains” or something like that in the Ute language. The Ute tribe is in and around Utah, Colorado and New Mexico. They’re a fairly small tribe compared to many others, but are/were one of the largest in the state. The largest reservation in the state is the Uintah-Ouray Reservation, where many of the Utes live.

The Utah Utes have been known as such since the 1970s, however, prior to that were known as the Utah Redskins. When political correctness began to sweep across the nation, and Stanford had decided to change its name from the Indian to Cardinal, the Utes followed, adopting a more inclusive name. With the permission of the local Ute tribe, the Redskins (Runnin’ Redskins in basketball) became the Utes.

This agreement between the school and the tribe has continued for a fairly long time with little issue. The leader of the tribe even has season tickets and attends most home games. However, in 2005, when the NCAA decided to crack down on American Indian-themed mascots, Utah nearly lost its name. But with the support of the tribe, as Stuck in the Plains said, they were allowed to keep the name.

The interesting thing, though, is the fact the University of Utah is set to drop the name if the Ute tribe decides they do not want to be associated with the school. In its place will be something with a hawk, as the logo already makes its rounds on Utah merchandise.

But I think most of us hope it doesn’t come to that. As the Utah Red-Tailed Hawks doesn’t have nearly the same ring to it.

by JazzyUte on Aug 11, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Utah has always been the "Utes"

They just dumped the alternate nickname and the name “Redskin Stadium” in 1970.

For example look at this blog article from “DAMIller” which includes a newspaper article written in 1930 that refers to them as the Utes.

by Ute in DC on Aug 14, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Top Of The Mountains

Actually, Utah means: Top of the mountains in Ute language. And I certainly hope the Utes top the Wolverines! Utah by 5! Go Utes!

by UltiMat on Aug 25, 2008 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Go Utes...

Nuff said!

"I hate everything orange"
It's all about Crimson - ROLL TIDE!!!

by bamavicki on Aug 11, 2008 11:23 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Go Utes.

This game has me excited and nervous all at the same time. I know a victory just may mean the BCS…and I’m tired of opening with losses against BCS teams:

2006: UCLA
2007: Oregon State
2008: ?

They better win.

by JazzyUte on Aug 11, 2008 12:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You have the RBR posters...

...pulling for the Utes. Of course, right now, we’ll pull for anyone and everyone against Michigan. Thanks for the background info on the name.

"I hate everything orange"
It's all about Crimson - ROLL TIDE!!!

by bamavicki on Aug 11, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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