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It's not the same, but it FEELS the same

I spent the weekend thinking over Friday night's game. Okay, that's a lie. I spent Saturday trying to forget it had ever happened. When I woke up Sunday and still had not forgotten, I spent some time really thinking about it.

My biggest problem with the game -- really the last TWO games -- is the fierce case of cognitive dissonance they created with respect to this season.

Last year, by this point, I was basically numb. The loss to Auburn was worst for the thought of another year of taunting from fans of a school with which even trailer parks don't want to be associated. This year, however, it all came crashing down in the span of a few weeks.

By every objective measure, this season is markedly better than last. Every single aspect of the game has improved by leaps and bounds. We expected improvement and for the first time in a long time, we got far more than we expected. If you had told me, before the season started, that we would go unscathed through the regular season, play Florida close in the title game and go to the Sugar Bowl, I'd have called you a moron.

In my mind I know that this year was better. Much better. In my mind I know that it's not the same, but it feels the same. Hell, it feels worse.

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A few thoughts...

let me say first and foremost that I am an average fan, and by no means a football or X-O expert. So take this for what its worth:

Defense: Our last 2 games (losses) have been against two teams who run the spread very effectively. Both programs have had their coaches and systems in place long enough to recruit the proper personnel. Alabama on the other hand, I do not believe has the personnel to run the defense that Saban has built his repuation on. I’m sorry but I just do not think we have the quality in the defensive backfield to match up man to man/bump ‘n run with teams who are good passing teams. The reason we ’got away with’ this is simple: there aren’t many good offensive teams in the SEC right now. UGA has a good tandum of WR’s but we jumped on them so early it changed the game entirely in what we could do on defense. We match up well with teams who like to run, we can stop the run, but when we play against a good pass team (and don’t have the luxury of being up by 2-3 scores) we don’t match up well. I think the last two games are a culmination of that. We also seem to lack guys who can consistantly rush the passer. I’d like to hear people’s thoughts.

Thirty-Six to Nothing

by Bens4vcobra on Jan 5, 2009 9:14 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

nickel package

CNS is known for his different blitz packages out of the nickel defense. but most of this is when it’s on 3rd and long after we stuff any runs on 1st and 2nd down. we didn’t get too many 3rd and longs against UF or Utah cause they like to spread it out and throw. plus, the 3-4 defense is built to stop the run, which we did. but the 3-4 is effective against the pass ONLY when there are LB’s who can pressure the QB. think of Demarcus Ware, James Harrison, Joey Porter, etc. if you look at the Ravens and Steelers defense (who both run a 3-4), they’re both dominating defenses because they stop the run and they get consistent pressure on the QB. those 2 defenses make the opposing teams QB play out of character. our ability to defend the spread in the future is all going to depend on whether we can generate a pass rush and pressure the QB. everything else will trickle down. the secondary can be mediocre as long as we can get pressure on the QB. how CNS plans to that, i don’t know.

by CSon on Jan 5, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well

we have Nico Johnson coming in at LB and Hightower did force their only turnover. Plus all of our regulards (Ro, Reamer, Charlie Higg. etc…) are coming back next year.

Thirty-Six to Nothing

by Bens4vcobra on Jan 5, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Regulars I mean

geez…

Thirty-Six to Nothing

by Bens4vcobra on Jan 5, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

after that 1st have performance

you can call them tards…

When you are an Alabama fan you are expected to hate Auburn, I hate Tennessee because I want to.

by bammer on Jan 5, 2009 3:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

36 - 0

“Ears” Tuberville is gone and I can live and work in the State of Alabama in peace for a change. Fulmer is gone too and Richt and Miles don’t look like geniuses anymore. Okay, I drank the cool-aid just like everybody else and badly wanted another NC but, let’s face facts, we just aren’t that good, yet. Our star is still rising. It has been one hell of a season, all things considered, and I can hardly wait for September.

RFT Mega!

"BINGO! That was a goodie." Coach Bryant

by Mr. Kobayashi on Jan 5, 2009 9:16 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

True

but UT seems to be putting together a good staff hiring Ed-O as a recruiter (officially coaching D-line, but come ‘on we all know what he’s there to do) and I’m hearing that Chizic is going to hire Trooper Taylor, another person who has the reputation of being a great recruiter. I’m certainly not saying I fear any of these people, but to me this is a clear message that our rivals aren’t content to just sit idley by until Saban decides to leave the Capstone. They want to compete. So the days our rivals being “down” or whatever you want to call it may be short lived.

Thirty-Six to Nothing

by Bens4vcobra on Jan 5, 2009 9:48 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Also

hearing rumors that UT wants to bring back Rodney Garner, for its worth. Point is, they aren’t just going to sit back and let ’Bama get on a run (again). They want to stop this thing dead in its elephant tracks.

Thirty-Six to Nothing

by Bens4vcobra on Jan 5, 2009 9:50 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice word usage Pete!

I thought I was the only one who used “cognitive dissonance” on a regular basis and didn’t forget about it after that last exam!

Also I agree with you. I think it lies in the fact that we came up so quickly relative to our standings the last few years that the fan base recovered and expectations jumped up because this is where Bama is suppose to be year in and year out. Thus two losses hurt. If you had asked ANY of us if we would take an undefeated regular season and lose the last two games in post season play back in August, we would have been ecstatic. We were used to mediocrity, now we are use to excellence. Why? Cause we piss excellence.

"With a girl - I-HOP; with the guys - Waffle House; with a girl you are pulling wingman on - Taco Bell." Comer, on his favorite place to eat at 3 a.m.

by BamaReturns07 on Jan 5, 2009 9:40 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Funny how it works, ain't it?

If we had gone 10-2 in the regular season, made the SECCG, lost, and gone to a lesser bowl and won, I don’t think any of us would feel nearly as bad about things as we do now. The team accomplished so much more than that, but it still feels like it didn’t turn out as good as it did.

But there is a VERY bright side that we all can see. If Saban can take a crew of mostly inexperienced players and do what he did this year, I can’t wait for him to get his whole system in place.

Good posts everyone.

I bleed crimson and white...I puke Vol puke orange. RTR

by SugarBowl93 on Jan 5, 2009 9:57 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Too simple?

Maybe this is too simplistic of an explaination, but it seems that CNS & Co. taught this very young group of guys how to WIN, WIN, WIN, but just didn’t teach them how to lose. Unfortunately, all of our loses—SECCG, players, coaches, personal etc—-came within a few weeks of each other and it was simply overwhelming.

by crimsongirl on Jan 5, 2009 11:50 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Lets

not forget these are 18-22 year old kids and sometimes just don’t respond to motivational tactics the way you want them too. CNS & staff can yell, pat on the back etc… all they want to, if the kid isn’t respecting the other team or doesn’t really want to be there all that much, well you know the rest…

Thirty-Six to Nothing

by Bens4vcobra on Jan 5, 2009 12:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Variance in Expectations?

There’s probably a curve we could draw for both Utah and ’Bama fans showing the rise in expectations each week and the increase in fan input from constant and inconsistent fans (call them fairweather fans or bandwagoneers if you prefer) weekly. This increase in background noise regarding said team from the aggregate rise of numbers and elocution is amplified by any national commentary, further fueling the rise in expectations (this rise might well be exponential). The rise is therefore unrealistic and physically consequential due to the number of hatching larvae in our intestines which blossom into full fledged Lepidoptera as we rush to the bright screens to see our beloved team take the field in the next proof of capability.

For examples we might plot lines from the opening games for each team, or for you guys post Georgia game or us post Oregon State.

The problem is, these expectations are subjective and emotional, the objective measure, a loss, is antithetical to the feelings we have in a manner we cannot plot or quantify.

I mean, for god’s sake don’t these people know how seriously we take this?

So, we’re screwed when our team fails to produce the expected result. I know Ute fans will go into next year’s season with huge heads and expectations—but we are losing waaaaaaay too many guys to fill those expectations in and needing like 4-5 new coaches.

Pre-season we were expected to be good, but not great. So we definitely should be able to empathize if we could objectively examine, call into crisis if you will, our own unreasonable expectations and feelings about our team.

Worse yet? Eight months till we can see how our butterflies for next season pan out. Perhaps our chart should be a butterfly-o-meter?

Best of luck in 2009 gents and gals of the Crimson clan. If any of you are traveling through Tallahassee and need a place to crash, drop a line.

Mean Bob Mean

by MeanBobMean on Jan 5, 2009 3:26 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Wow

I had to re-read in order to get my ‘please, isn’t it the weekend yet?’ head around that post. OK, i had to google ‘Lepidoptera’. I agree though MBM, expectations are dangerous and certainly a difficult (if not impossible) thing measure. I try really hard to keep my butterfly-o-meter right in the middle of cold and hot. Those of us that have been Bama fans for our entire lives have learned alot about both realized and unrealized expectations. I’ll never stop expecting us to be the best but I have now learned to be greatful for the process. Congrats to your #2 Utes!

2008 Iron Bowl Bumper Sticker: Shut DOWN, Shut OUT, now SHUT UP!
Alabama 36 - Auburn 0

by LittleSis on Jan 9, 2009 9:59 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

To me it feels different.

I feel better about our team,“the process”,and next year. Coach Bryant won a NC in year 4, Coach Stallings in won a NC in year 3. Heck even Dubose & Curry won the SEC in year 3. It takes time to build a team. Our real time has not yet come. I truly beliewe will be a better team in 2009.

WE NEED EVERYBODY AT THE DOME ON Sept. 5.

by 5026 on Jan 5, 2009 6:19 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

And

none of them were coming off of probation and scholarship limitations.

Thirty-Six to Nothing

by Bens4vcobra on Jan 6, 2009 8:22 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Just my two cents, but

there is just something psychologically satisfying about coming away from the season with some hardware (and not the kind earned by individuals). Last season even after the colossal stumble to end the season we still walked away from Shreveport with a trophy in our hands.

This year, we had two opportunities to garner said hardware and came up just short in the first and the second…..well, you know.

Plus, hard as it is to admit, we’ve just been unable to win the really big games since the SECCG in ’99 (after which we lost the Orange Bowl and began the current drought).

by TiderInTN on Jan 5, 2009 7:41 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Duh

If this feels like last year, call your counselor and stretch out on that sofa at least three times a week. The Tide waaaayyy outperformed what anyone expected. The Nickator kept telling us that they were a bumblebee team—you know—according to the laws of physics, the bumblebee can’t fly. But this team, under the spell of the process, DID! Sorry that they landed a bit too soon for some of ya, but what a great ride. Just imagine what CNS will do with the talent he is bringing along….

marycontrary

by adeleswims on Jan 5, 2009 10:28 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Speaking

of talent being brought in, if CNS lands Rueben Randle, Dre Kirkpatrick how do we not have the #1 class in the country again?

Thirty-Six to Nothing

by Bens4vcobra on Jan 6, 2009 8:24 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i'm still disappointed

in the result from the sugar bowl. i just cant believe that Utah was that much, or even at all, better than us. it seemed to me like a lack of focus and effort on our part. and for that i am still fuming.

overall though, it was indeed a fantastic season and even I with my perinially high expectations did not think we’d go 12-0. (i had us going 11-1, losing at georgia, then again in the SECCG to either georgia or florida, then winning the capital one bowl….it’s all writtin down on my phil steele guide, i get bored at work.)

we’re in fantastic shape overall, and i hope this bed sh*tting that we did last friday night stays on all the returning players’ minds all off season. if we come out focused and prepared, we can and will make VT our b*tch on opening day, and we dont really play anyone that tough after them. LSU at home and @ ol miss will be the only other games that should/could be in dispute.

we should win the west next season, hands down. i hope we’re prepared and execute when we get our rematch with the gators. winning the overall SEC should be the goal and it is very attainable.

by tempebamafan on Jan 7, 2009 11:01 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

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