Initial Impressions from the Ole Miss Game

A few initial impressions from the Ole Miss game:
- First and foremost, this is a big victory for the Tide. I know that some of the luster was taken off this game with Ole Miss' loss against South Carolina a couple of weeks back, but even so this game received lots of national attention yesterday, and it was the game that the pundits had circled all year long. To come out and win this type of game, on the road, is a big victory.
- Aside from the fact that it was a big victory, everything becomes more impressive in context. We beat a top 20 SEC team, on the road, 22-3 -- a pretty good shellacking in its own right -- and truthfully the game shouldn't have been that close. As good as we have been, we continue to be unable to fire on all cylinders, and we left a lot of points on the board yesterday afternoon. It was a 22-3 game that, truth be told, should have been even more lopsided. No doubt about it... we absolutely trashed this Ole Miss team physically. It was like watching a heavyweight fight where one fighter is destroying his opponent, but cannot quite get the knock-out blow he wants until the late rounds.
- The strength of the defense carried the day once again, and it's literally impossible to overstate the efforts those guys displayed. We got after Snead, completely shut down the running game, playing very tight coverage, and fought like hell for the football on every snap. If you were a coach putting on a clinic about how defense should be played, this is the game film you would put on as an example. I said this in the game thread yesterday, and in the sober reality of the day after I will reiterate here... this was the best defensive performance I've seen by an Alabama team since January 1st, 1993.
- Offensively, well, that was another story, particularly with regard to offensive playcalling. It just never made any sense whatsoever to me, or just about anyone else for that matter, and it's just entirely too much to get into with an initial impressions piece. I'm going to have a full column up on this later this week, probably around Wednesday.
- Greg McElroy easily had his worst day in crimson to date. I do think he was hampered a bit by poor play-calling, but even so he played poorly. He never looked comfortable in the pocket -- though the protection was probably about as good as you could expect against a front four like Ole Miss has -- and the way that he forced the ball to Julio Jones at times was almost laughable. He just looked like a completely different quarterback than we've seen to date. He honestly reminded me of John Parker Wilson circa 2006 or 2007 yesterday. I hate to be so negative about the kid, but... 43% completion percentage, 4.3 yards per attempt... all the crimson Kool-Aid in the world doesn't make that look good. It goes without saying that McElroy needs to play a lot better moving forward.
- That said, it just shows you good of an overall team we have when we can have such, um, shall we say "questionable" play-calling and quarterback play, and still win in a romp over a quality SEC team on the road. Teams that could do this are very much few and far between.
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…we left a lot of points on the board yesterday afternoon.
on the field, i think you mean.
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by kleph on Oct 11, 2009 2:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I had to miss the 2nd half
Wife’s friend recently got engaged, so I had little choice. Doesn’t seem like I missed much in terms of scoring, but I’ll watch the replay tonight.
There were a few play call problems (not going for it on that 4th and inches after the fake punt?), but Ole Miss has one of the top Redzone D’s in the nation, and we won by 19 so yeah….. can’t complain too much.
That was one of the top 10 defensive performances I’ve ever seen out of Alabama….. ever.
Fumbles. It was always Fumbles
by DocFumbles on Oct 11, 2009 2:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Play Calling in the Red Zone
I am not as big of a critic of the playing call in the red zone as others. We had two big penalties on separate drives that changed what we were able to do. We also had two fumbles, one of which McElroy recovered, the other Ole Miss recovered. I am sure what stands out to most everyone is the two or three passes to Julio when he was double-covered. I think it is fair to say that Alabama’s execution was greatly lacking, and Ole Miss did a pretty good job with some creative blitzes. Still, I thought it came down to more poor execution than anything else.
by Kenny483 on Oct 11, 2009 2:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Julio...
…has at least as many dropped passes as Peek, and I doubt he has more TDs. Whatever generosity or criticism we’re gonna give to one, I think it’s fair to give the same to the other.
Personally, I’m not down on either one of them. Yesterday made clear that Julio Jones is definitely not playing at 100%, and — as others have mentioned the past few weeks — he still does a tremendous job blocking (yesterday’s hold aside) and playing world’s best decoy for other receivers. And Peek should have made the TD catch after the TD catch that Julio should have made, but it’s not like it was the single-easiest catch in the world for a TE to make. And since we’re all ready to forgive Reamer for his two special teams blunders a couple games back, I’m pretty sure Peek can make up for his yesterday.
I wouldn’t trade either of these guys for another WR or TE in the country.
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Oct 11, 2009 3:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I meant...
I meant that Peek had dropped more touchdown passes than anyone this year. By my count, he has dropped three touchdown passes on the season. Julio has dropped one touchdown pass (FIU).
I wasn’t comparing dropped passes, or total touchdowns. I’m talking about passes dropped in the end zone that would have otherwise been touchdowns.
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by outsidethesidelines on Oct 11, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Julio...
…dropped at least one in the end zone yesterday as well, but I see your point.
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Oct 11, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Julio...
… had a circus catch against triple coverage knocked out on the way down yesterday. You won’t find an official scorer anywhere in the country that would rule that one a drop.
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by outsidethesidelines on Oct 11, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not...
…the pass I’m referring to, but you’re right about that one.
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Oct 11, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think you
are think of the fade route he dropped early. Went right through his hands..i believe it was right before Peeks missed catch…
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by bammer on Oct 11, 2009 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bottom line?
This is a better team than last year’s in terms of raw talent in my personal opinion. I think it’s frustrating because they could be better because we may see key lapses or petite errors (well dropping passes has to be cut down on), but this is a better team top to bottom. The defense is more dominant and the offense seems to me to have more diversity in terms of passing ability (can call more plays it seems) but yeah, I think you need two receivers on the field at the same time who are catching the stuff thrown their way—that would really make it hard for other teams.
Very happy to see Ingram and the O line getting it done when needed though. I would say, however, that they cannot be so one dimensional at the end of the year when they play Florida. Not saying they are as one dimensional as last year’s team, but sometimes they can rely on that alone to win and I’d hate for them to be in too much a habit when they face UF who has as good a defense.
Is it too early to ask for a #1 #2 rematch in the SEC championship?
by MeanBobMean on Oct 11, 2009 3:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's not too early...
…to count on it.
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Oct 11, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One very encourgaging thing . . .
is that this team has pretty much dominated every game without appearing to actually play well on both sides of the ball in any one game. As Saban says, the key is getting better every week and there is ample room for improvement. As good as the offense has been, there is still a lot of upside in terms of timing on run blocking and rhythm in the passing game. But the potential is really there. If we can keep winning and make the SECCG, we need to see that improvement to have a shot against Tebow.
by wey on Oct 11, 2009 3:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
On the playcalling
The only thing I can figure, having been at the game, is that the coaches were identifying something that the team wasn’t able to execute. Julio matched up favorably against Ole Miss’ corners: I think they were somewhat short. I think the pass rush affected McElroy’s ability to spread the ball.
by Go Hide in the V-berth on Oct 11, 2009 4:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not one of them...
But some Alabama fans (and the media) have lobbied for more balls to Julio. Despite the McElroy quote from earlier in the week, McElroy tried to give Julio the ball more this time. Julio dropped an easy first pass to start the game.
I just find it a little humorous that after having not thrown the ball towards Julio a lot this season, the game that Julio does get thrown to a lot, people think he’s locking on him, a la JPW. Yes, I will agree that there were a few passes that should not have been thrown to Julio (seems to be a bit of double/triple covered passes), but either we’re going to throw it to him or not.
by CaliforniaTide on Oct 11, 2009 5:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Overall very good
OTS mentioned the two or three things that I think I held us back. 1) McElroy’s performance was the biggest factor to me. His obsession with throwing to Julio caused him to miss open receivers that could have made 1st downs and possibly even TDs. 2) Playcalling was plain and vanilla. I had just told my son we need to run something outside then we ran a pitch to Ingram. We need a little more variety 3) Penaltys- especially inside the 10. Need to get these things corrected because we still have some tough competition ahead. ROLL TIDE!!!
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by baptman on Oct 11, 2009 5:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I was at the game
I saw the players walking out to the field for the game in the tunnel, and cody was lagging behind with what looked like trainers, i’m guessing he had some sort of tweak that kept him from being involved more during the game, but this is nothing but an assumption. if you saw it during one timeout he was stretching on the field while the rest of the team was huddled up with saban, looked like he was stretching his hamstring. don’t know if you could see that on TV.
by bamagary on Oct 11, 2009 6:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I was at the game and saw the same thing.
It looked like Cody was unable to run pain free. He rushed Snead hard one play and they immediately took him out. He was in one the goal line only one play and then they took him out.
I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.
by 5026 on Oct 11, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is what an Ole Miss fan
said about our team when he saw them get off the bus in Oxford: "When Alabama arrived yesterday, they looked like cloned, diciplined, suited warriors. Their whole demeanor is one of order and discipline. They were wearing coats and ties (like Alabama did years ago) and they looked like individual parts of a machine. There was no “individuality” displayed at all. Just a body. A body of soldiers. It was really impressive."
This upcoming season I'm gonna refer to Julio Jones as "The Magic Man" and Trent Richardson as "El Diablo"
by AlabamaTitans2009 on Oct 11, 2009 6:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Safety play
You mentioned Robby Green (glad that LSU “passed” on him by the way) but the three-headed monster of Woodall, Barron and Green look like they are really jelling into a tight cohesive group. Barron and Green look very comfortable now. I was not expecting it but the combined result might just be better than what we had last year with Rashad. This is easily the most physically gifted three-some playing that position in my memory.
by wey on Oct 11, 2009 8:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't you...
Don’t you just love all of these guys LSU supposedly “passes” on that signs with ’Bama?
I tell you, they really ought to get someone new doing the scouting down there. It’s amazing how a lot of these guys not good enough to play down there suddenly turn into standout players in Tuscaloosa.
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by outsidethesidelines on Oct 11, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Green
has the ability to make up ground when the ball is the air. I really like all our DB’s except Johnson. How does he get to cover a fast receiver 1 on 1?
Kareem Jackson played like an All American yesterday, so did Reamer. And Nico Johnson looked very good for his first real playing time.
I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.
by 5026 on Oct 11, 2009 8:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He's got...
… incredible range and reads the ball well. That’s exactly what you are looking for in a safety.
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by outsidethesidelines on Oct 11, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OTS
whats your initial thoughts on Nico? I thought he looked preety damn good.
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by bammer on Oct 11, 2009 8:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Honestly...
… I thought he was pretty so-so.
He didn’t do anything bad, and that was the biggest thing. We were basically just looking for him to be a cog, and that is basically what he was. We didn’t want him to have any major breakdowns and to just let everyone around him do the work, and that is what he did.
He’s clearly a great physical specimen, and his future is very bright. That said, he did look very green out there a lot of the time. We obviously tried to simplify things for him, but still he looked pretty uncertain of himself most of the time. At least a couple of times he was searching around looking for Rolando to get his assignment and get in the right position.
We’ll see what happens with him. He played great on special teams, but I honestly think we’re going to see a lot of Harris against South Carolina. I imagine he will probably start at Will.
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by outsidethesidelines on Oct 11, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hope Harris is ready to contribute.
Probably good Nico is getting some PT this year. Unfortunately, I have heard some reports that Dont’a’s knee was really messed up — more than the impression we seemed to get. Really hope for Dont’a’s sake he makes it back 100% but it sounds like it could be a real challenge.
by wey on Oct 11, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the fact our defense was as absolutely dominant as it was...
despite the fact we lost hightower and cody was limited is simply staggering to consider.
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by kleph on Oct 12, 2009 6:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The reason why it seems like McElroy was forcing a lot of passes to Julio
Was because Ole Miss was blowing up our OL, a thing I was concerned about before the game, and getting a ton of pressure on Greg. Therefore, he couldn’t go through his reads like he normally does, and ended up going to his first read, which was normally Julio.
36-0
by Bamabrave4 on Oct 12, 2009 12:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I do not think nearly enough credit is going to Ole Miss pass rush. Furthermore, that is what the players and coaches identified after the game. The good news is that is the best pass rushing front we will play, unless we play Florida in the SEC title game.
by Kenny483 on Oct 12, 2009 7:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The good news is that is the best pass rushing front we will play, unless we play Florida in the SEC title game.
unless? who ELSE do you think might play florida in the SECCG?
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by LittleSis on Oct 12, 2009 7:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I
think the only one on paper who has a legit shot is SC, but that will end after this Saturday.
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by Bens4vcobra on Oct 12, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That game....
was one of the best defensive clinics I have seen in a very long time. As much as I would like to argue that we lost because Jevan has simply forgotten how to play the game of football y’all’s defense was beautiful in its execution.
On the same token, the total lack of Ole Miss offensive production should have produced an outcome with a much larger disparity than 22-3. In spite of everything, the Ole Miss-D played exceedingly well. I fully believe that our defense is a top-20 unit. The offense….well y’all saw it (or the lack thereof). SEC is and will always be a great place to watch good defensive-trenches football.
I guess what I am trying to say is go check out Whiskey Wednesday’s post on RCR. It pretty much sums it all up for me.
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