ESPN's Pardon the Interruption joins Kiffen in not knowing the rules...
So over at RTT, they have posted a vid from ESPN's Pardon the Interruption that basically says that Alabama and Florida can only win games if the officials help them out. They get really fired up about it on this vid too. It is just sickening that they put the clip of the last 4 seconds up and neither one of these idiots noticed that the time on the clock had run out BEFORE Mt. Cody pulled his helmet off!! And as sports commentators, shouldn't they be somewhat knowledgable about the rules or at least go look them up before they go spouting their mouths off? I say shame on ESPN (and CBS for Lundquist and Danielson) for allowing their guys to make comments like this on national televsion!
http://www.rockytoptalk.com/2009/10/26/1102137/pti-backs-up-kiffin-and-mullens
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This is unfortunate!
Cornheiser (sp?) and Melborne usually defends ’Bama/Saban.
But like you said, perhaps it’s better to take a look at the rule-book for clarity before saying otherwise.
by rhYno on Oct 26, 2009 7:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wish..
someone (like PTI) or some other sports show would finally put this to rest it has been anounced many times that, yes a penalty should have been thrown, but no it would not have changed the outcome of the game. Also, for anyone who watches PTI, I just noticed the cutout of Terrence Cody behind Melborne’s head.
I aint never been nothin but a winner A'ight
by BammerBoy on Oct 26, 2009 7:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You know may I just suggest you respond to any Tenn. fan from now on with 12-10 and say no more. That is my policy here forward.
I live in the past and I'm better than you.
by Destindune on Oct 26, 2009 7:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I cant stand PTI
All they do is bash Alabama and Nick Saban, especially Michael Wilbon.
36-0
by Bamabrave4 on Oct 26, 2009 8:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Rolando McClain
said it best. He said that the media and many people don’t respect Alabama because of the way 2008 ended. They hate Saban because they know he’s a great coach but they wanted to see him stay in Miami and take a more of a beating before returning to a program to run a likable college program.
They’re going to hate us no matter what. We just need to be used to it.
MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--
BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.
by Bamagrad on Oct 26, 2009 8:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This is what I emailed to PTI, hopefully they will correct themselves tomorrow...
“Before you start telling the nation that the “no call” against Terrence Cody Saturday evening is part of some SEC officiating conspiracy please do a little bit of research. Sometimes all it takes is something as simple as reading the rule book to stop a conspiracy theory dead in its tracks. The rule book states that taking off one’s helmet during a live ball will be a “dead ball” penalty, meaning that 15 yards will be assessed on the NEXT play. Since the clock ran out during the play the game is still over. Now, I know what you’re thinking, “a game can’t end on a defensive penalty.” While that is true, this rule (a game not being able to end on a defensive penalty) only applies to “live ball” penalties. Even if there was time left on the clock at the end of the play, and a flag was thrown for Cody’s obvious infraction, then, because Julio Jones recovered the blocked kick, Alabama would have been penalized 15 yards from where Julio recovered the ball and simply taken a knee to end the game. I am glad that the officials recognized this during the heat of the moment and chose not to throw a flag for it would have squandered the initial excitement of the game winning play. But part of me wishes that they did throw the flag. If they did throw the flag then they would have have said something similar to the following, “Since the penalty is a dead ball infraction and the clock ran out during the play the game is over.” Although that would have killed the initial excitement of the play it would have kept people from spewing conspiracy theories on national television. I will be watching PTI tomorrow and waiting for your correction."
by dsz002 on Oct 26, 2009 11:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
nice...
great letter. Those guys are jerks.
Still, five bucks says you don’t get that correction you’re looking for…
by Queen of the Universe on Oct 27, 2009 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or maybe he’ll do something like he did when he admitted to wrongly attributing a racist statement to Rush Limbaugh and say, ’Well, it turns out that the refs were in the right and that Alabama won the game fair and square… BUT the refs might have put in the fix for Alabama if they had actually committed a foul that would have given Tennessee another shot.".
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
by Zoltar on Oct 27, 2009 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
poor rush
that guy cant get a prescription for the narcotics he’s addicted too fair shake can he?
welcome to the SEC kiffykins...
by tempebamafan on Oct 27, 2009 1:02 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
I’d share mine with him but he’d just give them to his Dominican slaves I need them for post-surgical relief.
"Hollywood made a movie of my life. The film had me proposing to my wife on the football field. I would never misuse a football field that way." -Crazy Legs Hirsch
by Stuck in the Plains on Oct 27, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've lived in DC for over 20 years now
and been listening to reading TK and MW that whole time. While entertaining, it is amazing how little they both know about college football. Kornheiser would hang up on and ridicule callers to his show that would refer to teams using “we”, not realizing that is standard practice among all college fans. The only time they seem to talk about college football is when they want to rant about how corrupt it is. There was a time in the nineties when they dominated the DC area sports conversation with semi-weekly columns and talk radio shows, and there were no real alternatives (i.e. internet).
Fortunately those dark times are over, and the two of them have been relegated to their little circus act on PTI.
Shorty Price Lives
by StarStarr on Oct 27, 2009 5:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
TK does know surprisingly little about CFB
If it’s not in the NE (or involving USC) he doesn’t really know or care…The only time, in the past decade, I can remember him speaking knowledgeably about the sport was when Rutgers (who ironically helped to invent the game ) finally got on the map about 3-4 years ago.
…even then, I suspect it’s b/c Rutgers was a New England state and the corporate whores in Bristol, CT ESPN wanted to push the story.
"Hollywood made a movie of my life. The film had me proposing to my wife on the football field. I would never misuse a football field that way." -Crazy Legs Hirsch
by Stuck in the Plains on Oct 27, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, guys...
…I can’t read anymore of this post…I have to go wipe my Kornheiser….
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Oct 27, 2009 9:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Same thing happened...
I saw PTI, and before that, the host on Around the Horn made nearly identical remarks. Not a single person highlighted the fallacy of his statement in the ensuing debate. It makes absolutely no sense at all that guys like us can dig up rulebooks and, you know, research the facts and rules of the game… while the morons getting paid to do that don’t.
by CrimsonWraith on Oct 27, 2009 11:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's the ESPN meme
just like the earlier interview RBR did with SI’s Andy Staples…these guys sit around and, rather than report on stories, or adding a little objectivity/fact-checking to the reporting, they actively manufacture stories. It’s tabloid schtick and it’s growing old.
"Hollywood made a movie of my life. The film had me proposing to my wife on the football field. I would never misuse a football field that way." -Crazy Legs Hirsch
by Stuck in the Plains on Oct 27, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which
is really ironic considering their current war with another tabloid and their schtick.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
by Bens4vcobra on Oct 28, 2009 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL!
It doesn’t matter or not if the infraction occured before or after the time clock expires. This isn’t basketball.
Have you ever seen football officials blow the play dead because the time clock ran out? Have you ever seen them stop a play? Have you ever seen a team score with no time on the clock? Football games do not end when the time runs out, the last play continues on until dead. In those cases, penalties can occur.
When a team goes for a hail mary with 1 second left, you don’t see defenders pulling down receivers because the time ran out. They would still be called on those penalties.
Ultimately, the penalty would not have resulted in a rekick, so it’s moot, but whether there was time on the clock or not is irrelevant.
by boxedlunch on Oct 27, 2009 12:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You are correct...
…and most (granted, not all) of the readers here on the blog are very well aware of that. Pete’s research and reasoning in his topic on the front page appear spot on.
by CrimsonWraith on Oct 27, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spot on?
That’s the one that says the ball would have to be touched by another player before touching the ground to be recovered by Tennessee? The one that inteprets the rule about kicking the ball beyond the line of scrimmage as applying to a ball kicked behind it and crossing the line?
It made the point it had to make (and was correct about the dead-ball foul), but I wouldn’t say it was “spot on”.
by boxedlunch on Oct 27, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still haven’t heard a compelling argument in favor of the position you’re advancing, and since it’s pretty common for short FGs to be whistled dead before they leave the field of play, I’m not sure how that fits in with your interpretation.
I'm wrong all the time.
by PeteHoliday on Oct 27, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
spot on-ish... heh
I believe, when that point was brought up in the discussion, that Pete went back to edit his article and highlighted that issue as being debateable. His research may have been off (I haven’t looked into it enough myself to debate the matter), but he has been reasonable and open-minded in dealing with various interpretations of the rulebook. He can fight his own battles and I’m not here to argue the validity of his perspective on the rulebook; however I do feel that his reasoning has been “spot on” in dealing with the matter, and I stand by my comment stating as much.
by CrimsonWraith on Oct 27, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait wait wait wait....
Someone from ESPN talked out of his ass? Nooooooooo..I don’t believe it!
Scoring against Alabama will be like birthing a child: rare, painful, and messy. - The Ghost of Jay Cutler
by bammer on Oct 27, 2009 3:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
shocked and appalled
i mean really. the bastion of sports journalism, stooping to that level. i never….
welcome to the SEC kiffykins...
by tempebamafan on Oct 28, 2009 7:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
















