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Clearly, Coach Saban's 24-hour rule doesn't apply to the fans here at RBR, but as I've grown weary of the whinings of the pale orange last-week's losers from up the road, I thought I would share a few of the reasons the Alabama-LSU rivalry has long been an important one to me.

First of all, as many of us could have guessed before the season began, our upcoming game has become the biggest of the year.  We may or may not have expected to be 8-0 at this point, what with replacing last year's starting QB, RB, TEs, and three members of our offensive line (two of them highly touted), not to mention the 'quarterback' of the defense, safety Rashad Johnson.  However, despite our recent struggles offensively, Greg McElroy has filled in nicely for John Parker Wilson, the offensive line has exceeded the expectations of most, and Mark Ingram is suddenly being touted as the best player in America.  Furthermore, it seems that the combination of Robby Green and bright new star Mark Barron has filled the shoes of Johnson quite nicely.  Ugly or not, our beloved Tide has won every game thus far, standing at the break with a perfect 8-0 record.

We also may not have expected LSU to have only one loss this far into the season, seeing as how they lost five games last year...and the Bengal Tigers' start to the season did little to strike fear in our hearts, what with their season-opening nail-biter vs. a previously unbeaten UW (though that game doesn't look quite so ugly since Washington's upset of USC), not to mention their lucky escape in Starkville.  LSU has had offensive struggles of their own, most surprisingly in the running game.  It's difficult to imagine that their running issues will be solved against what appears to be the best run-stopping defense in the land; nevertheless, LSU enters this game with only one loss, and controls their own destiny as of today.

You may have noticed that I haven't even mentioned the emotions surrounding LSU's severed relationship with our own exalted CNS, or the thrilling finishes to the prior two meetings in Baton Rouge and Tuscaloosa, nor the pungent smell of corn dogs that you may encounter on your walk to BDS next weekend.  It goes without saying, despite the recent focus on Rocky Block and whiny puke-orange coaches, our next game is the biggest of the regular season.


Most of my own memories of this game are positive.  Before this decade, the series record in this game from 1970-1999 stood at 22-7-1 in favor of the Tide.  Unfortunately, a variety of factors -- most prominently probation at Alabama and the arrival of Coach Nick Saban in Baton Rouge -- have swung the series dramatically during the aughts, with LSU winning seven of nine, including a five-game streak that ended last year in Bama's 27-21 OT victory at Tiger Stadium.  Here are some of my own recollections from the past 30+ years:

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When I was a boy, LSU was a mere afterthought on the road between opening day and Auburn.  The Tide owned the SEC and the nation in the 1970s, beginning an eleven-game streak against the Bengal Tigers in 1971.  I don't mean to say they were an afterthought for the team; there were many tense games, as LSU was ranked in five of them and was already a long-standing rival with their own solid football history.  An unranked LSU team played us down to the wire in a stressful 3-0 game in Baton Rouge in our undefeated championship season of 1979.  But for young Tide fans across the southeast, LSU was just not a team that we worried about.  We owned them.

That came crashing to a halt in Coach Bryant's last year, and I've always believed that this game had a lot to do with his decision to retire at the end of the 1982 season.  Alabama was ranked eighth and LSU eleventh, and the game was still played at Legion Field.  By halftime, I'm not sure we had earned a yard on offense, much less a first down.  It was a miserable game, and the 20-10 final score showed little how well LSU had dominated us that day.  To make matters worse (for me), a cocky LSU fan I knew showed up the next day wearing an Alabama t-shirt that read 'LSU 20, Bama 10' on the back.  Needless to say, I felt a new loathing for those clad in purple and yellow.  My old disinterest was gone.

Our record against LSU over the next six years was 2-3-1, and two games stand out for me during that time.  The first was a 32-26 victory in Baton Rouge in 1983, partly because it was revenge for the previous year's loss, but mainly because it was the first (and only) game I attended in Tiger Stadium.  The atmosphere was electric, and it was easily the most exciting football game I had yet encountered in person.  I'll never forget the politely veiled threats I received from the Tiger faithful who did not like the colors I wore or the outcome of the game, and they encouraged me to get back home to Alabama...fast.

The second was a heart-breaking loss at Legion Field in 1986.  It was a huge loss.  We entered the game ranked sixth in the country, but we gave it away, literally, as my hero Bobby Humphrey fumbled (was it only twice?), and we walked out baffled by a 14-10 defeat.  That team also featured Mike Shula and Cornelius Bennett, and was talented enough to win a national championship.  It wasn't the only loss of the year, or the most painful (we also lost to another Tiger team at the end of the regular season), but it was the one that killed our title hopes.

We only lost twice to LSU from 1989-1999, as LSU was struggling to find a head coach and Gene Stallings had resurrected much of our own old glory.  The end of the decade, of course, gave us a glimpse of what probation and poor coaching could do to that glory, as we were shut out 27-0 in MIke Dubose's inaugural year.  However, the two most memorable games for me during that time were the bookends to that season, beginning with Shaun Alexander's amazing 291-yard game as a freshman in 1996 (a record that still stands) and closing with a thrilling comeback in Tiger Stadium in 1998.  If I were an LSU fan, I can't imagine a more disappointing finish.  For us, it featured incredible fourth-quarter plays by Shaun Alexander (again), a beautifully executed onside kick, and Andrew Zow's final TD pass being ripped out of the sky by phenom Quincy Jackson.  It is still one of my favorite games.

This decade has not been a fun one for Crimson Tide fans, especially as it relates to this rivalry.  We did shut out and shut down a Nick Saban team in 2002, but he paid us back royally with a 27-3 loss the next year in what still stands out to me as the worst in terms of a team that just completely dominated us (I do seem to recall that LSU was pretty good that year...).  Of course, that began a five-game win streak for LSU, which still seems unfathomable, with or without probation.

And that's what made last year's OT win in Baton Rouge so sweet.  And that's what makes next week's game so important.  For most of this decade, Alabama has fielded forgettable teams, and it's been arguably the worst decade of Alabama football of the past fifty years.

But we can feel the undercurrent changing direction, and we can see the Tide turning.  I, for one, have got that old championship feeling again.  Next weekend is the game that can propel us in that direction more than any other this season.  You may want to keep your Halloween costume handy for one more week.  We need to bring the fear back to BDS next Saturday.  Roll Tide.

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I remember a lot of those games also. Didn’t LSU follow their victory against us in 1986 with a loss to Miami of Ohio?

MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--

BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.

by Bamagrad on Oct 29, 2009 11:07 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No...

… but close. Per CFBdatawarehouse, they beat A&M in the season opener and then lost to Miami (Ohio).

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by outsidethesidelines on Oct 29, 2009 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Saban Bowl III

Time to extend the record.

by Espyonage on Oct 29, 2009 11:45 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I do remember us......

owning tiger stadium for years, and watching the game in my friends living room in the 70’s one saturday night. I don’t remeber the score, but I know we won, ’cause we always won.

I don't mind bad news, and I don't mind good news, but I can't stand surprises! Coach Nick Saban

by jtCRIMSON on Oct 29, 2009 1:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Tide can't lose in Baton Rouge

MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--

BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.

by Bamagrad on Oct 29, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I seem to remember...

that at one time (can’t remember when) that we had a 20 something game win streak in Baton Rouge?? Anyone remember that?

" I should keep my words soft and sweet in case I have to eat them."

by SDBama78 on Oct 29, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it was from 1970-2000

My friend had a shirt that said THE TIDE CAN’T LOSE IN BATON ROUGE

MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--

BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.

by Bamagrad on Oct 30, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I remember the shirt....

just can’t remember the dates

" I should keep my words soft and sweet in case I have to eat them."

by SDBama78 on Oct 30, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

2003 LSU

game was hard to watch. It was a typical Saban-coached game. The score wasn’t completely out of whack (compared to the lop-sided scores most have come to expect in CFB these days). We were never in that game from 14:59 in the 1st quarter on. I’m not even sure we were in it when LSU got off the bus. I don’t have the stats in front of me, but if memory serves, I’m not sure we crossed the 50 more than once.

"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken

by Bens4vcobra on Oct 29, 2009 2:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

damn good post

i f-in hate LSU just about as much as tennessee and auburn. i dont recall us ever losing to them until the 2000’s, and since then they have acted like a bunch of cocky a-holes.

welcome to the SEC kiffykins...

by tempebamafan on Oct 29, 2009 2:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

d..n good post

We didn’t lose much to them in 70’s and 80’s, but LSU gave Coach Bryant his closest call in his last NC season in which Bama won that game 3-0 in the rain….Let’s be careful out there

by runninrebel88 on Nov 3, 2009 11:43 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

They’re probably the worst fans to play in front of. They throw beer bottles and cans at the bus. They rock the bus, they behave worse than any fans in the SEC. I know every SEC team’s fans can misbehave, but LSU fans are slightly worse than Tennessee and Auburn fans.

MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--

BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.

by Bamagrad on Oct 29, 2009 2:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

my 1SG is an LSU fan...

so this game is particularly important to me…and seeing that picture of Les Miles kissing that other dude has just made this Saban Bowl even more fun…

enjoy...

by SpockJenkins on Oct 29, 2009 2:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If he were an Auburn fan

I’d say you should frag him. But since he’s an LSU fan…well, I don’t know, it’s up to you how to handle it. Mutiny?

MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--

BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.

by Bamagrad on Oct 29, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

05 and 07

05…Undefeated…In overtime Jamarcus hitting I think it was early doucet in the back of the endzone by the student section….ripped my heart out…..I told my date to just go ahead and leave and I just sat in the bleachers with my head in my hands for probably a good 45 minutes until one of the stadium employees told me I had to leave…I looked up and I literally think I was the last person to walk out of BDS….and on my walk back to my apt, I punched some LSU fans’ green toyota highlander sideview mirror off (my apologies to you if you are out there somewhere)……07…not quite as gut-wrentching but when Javier took that punt back for a TD I thought for sure we were going to pull off the upset…too this day I’ve never heard the stadium louder…I head-butted this random guy a couple rows down in the student section….and then of course JPW fumbles, and we blow it…..ugh….its depressing me just thinking about it now

I dont think you want me to say what I think about that - Coach Nick Saban

by InTheShadowOfMtCody on Oct 30, 2009 12:04 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

In overtime Jamarcus hitting I think it was early doucet

That was Dwayne Bowe…Lettin ’em know…

by LSU Jonno on Oct 30, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I head-butted this random guy a couple rows down in the student section

Awesome. This is the best line on this page.

MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--

BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.

by Bamagrad on Oct 30, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

yeah i knew it was one of them two...

I also remember skyler green walking out getting ready to take a kickoff out of the endzone by the student section and flipping all of us off….class act.

I dont think you want me to say what I think about that - Coach Nick Saban

by InTheShadowOfMtCody on Oct 30, 2009 3:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

My favorite game...

… was when a terrible LSU team beat the David Palmer Tide team in 1993. Pgs fly and all that. Great times. Then again, I went to LSU.

To feed the Bama fans, the game that was an absolute gut punch was when Shaun Alexander rushed for about 1000 yards against us in 1996. That was just a relentless ass kicking. 1998 sucked because not one, but two balls bounced off a DB’s helmet for a Bama touchdown, but 1996 is the game that hurt the most. LSU was just getting good again after the Archer/Hallman era and Bama just showed how long LSU had to go. It was absolutely demoralizing and I was sure we were never gonna beat Bama in Tiger Stadium. Ever.

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by Poseur on Oct 30, 2009 3:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Awesome history lesson...

loved reading it. And I heart Shaun Alexander. Great football player…great man.

by Queen of the Universe on Oct 31, 2009 12:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

he is my mom's boyfriend...

although he better watch out cuz I saw her eyeing Trent Richardson the other day…

enjoy...

by SpockJenkins on Oct 31, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As long as she...

stays away from my man Ro. That McClain is all mine. Tell your mom she better BACK OFF!

by Queen of the Universe on Oct 31, 2009 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great post..

This is the most important game of the regular season, obviously, and not just because it is the next game on our schedule. Also, it’ll be the first LSU game I’ve attended since the horrible loss in 2005, where I thought at halftime (Alabama winning 10-0) we were going to beat them for sure. It’s time for my revenge game. I’ll also note that when in New Orleans around Halloween last year I was walking down the street in my Alabama shirt and some guy muttered, “Asshole.” Made me laugh. College football fans sure know how to create awkward social moments.

by crimsontsunami on Oct 31, 2009 10:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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