With Win Over LSU, 'Bama Clinches Trip to Atlanta
When LSU comes to Tuscaloosa in nine days, Alabama will have the opportunity to officially stamp its ticket to Atlanta for a rematch with Florida in the SEC Championship Game. How? Let's take a closer look. The following is the current pecking order of the SEC West:

With a win over LSU, Alabama would move to 6-0 in conference play. That 6-0 record would mathematically eliminate Auburn, Mississippi State, and Arkansas from contention, simply because since they already have at least three conference losses, it is not even theoretically possible for them to get to the 6-2 mark to tie the Tide.
The only two teams left in contention would be 5-2 LSU and 5-2 Ole Miss. Alabama could, of course, lose its final two conference games against Mississippi State and Auburn, but even if so we would still win the West. With both LSU and Ole Miss having at best 5-2 records -- assuming 'Bama beats LSU -- after next weekend, keep in mind that LSU plays Ole Miss in Oxford on November 21st. One of those teams will, obviously, lose that game, so one of them would fall to three conference losses. Thus, regardless of whether or not Ole Miss wins out from here, or LSU wins out after losing to 'Bama, the absolute best those two teams could hope for -- even if 'Bama implodes against MSU and Auburn -- would be to finish tied atop the West with 'Bama at 6-2 each, in which case Alabama would go to Atlanta because we would hold the tiebreakers over both Ole Miss and LSU thanks to our head-to-head victories over them. As a result, regardless of what happens the rest of the way, 'Bama clinches a trip to Atlanta with a victory over LSU.
On the other hand, if LSU beats 'Bama, things get a lot more dicey. A loss to LSU wouldn't necessarily mean that the Bayou Bengals go to Atlanta, but it would certainly muddy the water. Even with a loss to LSU, 'Bama would likely still finish up with a 7-1 record in conference play, and thus LSU would need to beat both Arkansas and Ole Miss to head to Atlanta for their own rematch with the Gators. That's no small chore, mind you, especially considering that they lost to both of those teams a year ago, and as a result even if 'Bama loses to LSU next Saturday, we still have a pretty good chance of making Atlanta regardless. Hell, who knows? Maybe the smart money would still be on 'Bama making it back to Atlanta, but clearly that's not a risk we want to take.
And, believe it or not, a 'Bama loss to LSU would open the door back up for Ole Miss. The odds of this happening are pretty slim, but it's not beyond the realm of possibility. If 'Bama loses to LSU, Ole Miss would need to win out -- i.e. beat Auburn, Tennessee, LSU, and Mississippi State. They would also need LSU to beat Arkansas, and / or get 'Bama to lose to either Mississippi State or Auburn (or both). If we only lose to one of either MSU or Auburn and LSU beats Arkansas, that would create a three-way tie atop the SEC West at 6-2, and believe it or not Ole Miss would go to Atlanta -- 'Bama would be eliminated from the tiebreaker because we would have two SEC West losses, and Ole Miss would go over LSU thanks to the head-to-head tiebreaker. On the other hand, if we somehow lose both games to Auburn and MSU, Ole Miss can go to Atlanta simply by winning out from here. Obviously there's a really small chance of any of that happening, but nevertheless Ole Miss stays alive with an LSU victory over Alabama.
And that's how it all shakes out in the West. I think you have to feel pretty good about our chances of getting to Atlanta or a BCS game even if we lose to LSU, but even so you clearly want to seize control of your own destiny and go ahead and stamp your ticket back to Atlanta once and for all.
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Not so sure
about the BCS game if Alabama loses to LSU.
1) Remember, only 2 teams per conference.
2) Assume that 12-0 Florida defeats 11-1 LSU in the SEC Championship Game. Florida is the #1 ranked team. That means that the Sugar Bowl will have the first choice to replace the Gators. Do you think that they take Alabama, who they just had 1 year earlier, or the almost hometown team that beat Alabama? After the Sugar takes LSU, Bama is forced to go to the Capital One.
3) Assume 11-1 LSU beats 12-0 Florida. Does any bowl take Alabama over The Florida Tebows? Not this year. Bama to the Capital One Bowl.
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by Bama Hawkeye on Oct 29, 2009 12:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Concerning scenario #2...
You’re saying that the Sugar Bowl takes a 2 loss LSU team over a 1 loss Bama?
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by TopDaddy on Oct 29, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scenario #2...
Recent history suggests that the BCS would take an 11-1 Alabama over an 11-2 LSU. The exact same thing happened in the Big 12 a couple years ago. Just swap Alabama for Kansas, LSU for Missouri, Florida for Oklahoma.
Kansas and Oklahoma did not play in the regular season. Oklahoma beat Missouri in the regular season. Missouri beat Kansas, so they went to the Big 12 Championship Game to play Oklahoma, again, where they lost, again.
The BCS took the 11-1 Kansas team over the 11-2 Missouri team; even though Missouri had won the head-to-head game between the two and both of Missouri’s losses were to the Big 12 Champion.
by CrimsonWraith on Oct 29, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Part of that
is due to the fact that Kansas travels well, and Missouri couldn’t sell 2/3 of their allotment of tix to the B12 Championship game.
If LSU beats Bama, and has only lost to undefeated and #1 Florida, there is no way that the Sugar Bowl in New Orleans is going to pass on them for Bama.
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by Bama Hawkeye on Oct 29, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Survive and advance
I sure hope our boys get healthy for that game.
I'm wrong all the time.
by PeteHoliday on Oct 29, 2009 12:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
we really need Peak
in that one…they are going to get hella’ pressure on our O Line and, besides dump offs to the backs, we need a safety valve for G Mac
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by Stuck in the Plains on Oct 29, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
with Peek being a solid blocker, we aren’t telegraphing to the D when we might throw to the TE.
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by Bens4vcobra on Oct 29, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unlike Smelly
Terrence Cody eats your field goal!
by Wallacewade04 on Oct 29, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beat LSU
and we won’t have to worry about any headaches (til Atlanta).
I am amazed that Arkansas is 1-4 in conference play. They’re not a bad team. Crazy stuff.
MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--
BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.
by Bamagrad on Oct 29, 2009 12:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
On a sidenote:
When does the clock start for Petrino?
MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--
BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.
by Bamagrad on Oct 29, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
after next year...
NO way they start calling for his head until he’s had 3 full seasons to do what he does..
Scoring against Alabama will be like birthing a child: rare, painful, and messy. - The Ghost of Jay Cutler
by bammer on Oct 29, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it goes back to your first comment...
Everyone knows that Arkansas is not a bad team, and have a very good future if no one goes pro, so I don’t think it’s started yet. I guarantee you they are the best sub-500 team in the country, and much better than some teams with winning records.
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by TopDaddy on Oct 29, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
IDK
They played like shit against Ole Miss and we all know that Ole Miss isn’t a very good football team.
Scoring against Alabama will be like birthing a child: rare, painful, and messy. - The Ghost of Jay Cutler
by bammer on Oct 29, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But they played UF better than anyone else has...
And Ole Miss isn’t bad, they just aren’t as good as they were hyped. Their success hinges too much on a QB that just doesn’t have “it”. Compounding their problems is the fact that Nutt won’t commit to their running game, which is not bad.
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by TopDaddy on Oct 29, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually think
MSU played a better game and UF should have 2 loses right now.
Ole Miss has looked better the last two weeks but not good enough to say they’ve turned a corner.
Scoring against Alabama will be like birthing a child: rare, painful, and messy. - The Ghost of Jay Cutler
by bammer on Oct 29, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Ole Miss
is somewhere around the third or fourth best in the SEC, depending on what happens when they play LSU.
They were overrated, but they’re not a terrible team. I think they’ll win 10 games.
MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--
BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.
by Bamagrad on Oct 29, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
Ole Miss was overrated as a top ten team, but someone between 15th and 20th? I think that’s about right for them.
After seeing them beat Arkansas, I see them getting at least nine wins now.
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by outsidethesidelines on Oct 29, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Florida
always plays like shit in Mississippi. I don’t know what it is, but anytime one of their teams crosses over into the Magnolia State they struggle.
MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--
BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.
by Bamagrad on Oct 29, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Florida...
…generally looks worse against teams from the West, because we generally play a more physical brand of football over here. Despite probation and poor coaching, can you imagine how much better our record might be had we the luxury of playing SC, Kentucky, and Vandy every year?
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Oct 29, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We
used to play Vandy every year it seemed like.
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by Bens4vcobra on Oct 30, 2009 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They also had more than a few fluke turnovers..
A guy face-planted and reached his leg out for a fumble WTF?
At the end of the day
by Mikeno on Oct 29, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The shocker for me was the Ole Miss game
I watched that one last Saturday and I expected them to play Ole Miss much better. I don’t know if their spirit was crushed from losing to Florida (or if Ole Miss is just a better ballclub) but they didn’t look good.
If they don’t rise up and beat South Carolina and/or LSU, they’re looking at a 2-6 conference record, and that’s assuming they beat Mississippi State.
MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--
BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.
by Bamagrad on Oct 29, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
im telling you
MSU isn’t going to be an easy win. Their defense is tough and Mullen has the offense at least producing something.
Scoring against Alabama will be like birthing a child: rare, painful, and messy. - The Ghost of Jay Cutler
by bammer on Oct 29, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So they could be 1-7 in the SEC
I’d have to stare at that for a few minutes and process it. If that happens, it’ll be hard to comprehend.
MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--
BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.
by Bamagrad on Oct 29, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As
far as Petrino being on the hot seat, do you think he’ll even be there long enough for that happen? J/K… I think its just unfortunate for Arky because they play in an extremely tough division. Probably the best top to bottom in all of CFB. So yeah, they may be 1-7, but certainly not as bad as that record would indicate. It will be interesting going forward to see how (if) he addresses the defense. If memory serves, his Louisville teams weren’t exactly stout on D, which was fine for that conference. But it goes without saying that that won’t cut it in this league. Petrino may end up not just being a bad fit for Arky, but a bad fit as an SEC coach.
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by Bens4vcobra on Oct 29, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my thoughts exactly
i consider them at least the third best team in the west, maybe even second best. But, records don’t lie.
by crbama on Oct 29, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I definitely would like to continue to control our own destiny...
But if we do lose to LSU, I don’t think there’s a better 2 team tandem for LSU to close out with (and who have given LSU hell over the past two years) then Arky and Miss.
"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success" - Coach Bryant
by TopDaddy on Oct 29, 2009 1:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Im actually glad
we played terrible at the end agaisnt UT. This way we have a bad taste in our mouths heading into next Sat. LSU’s offense has improved over the weeks and ours is still declining. They aren’t a great team but they are good enough to pull the upset.
That being said, I believe we win that game and all the “what if’s” will be a moo point.
Scoring against Alabama will be like birthing a child: rare, painful, and messy. - The Ghost of Jay Cutler
by bammer on Oct 29, 2009 1:02 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Remember that LSU offense was able to fire against the “bama rejects.” Comparatively speaking, I don’t think Auburn’s defense is near Alabama’s. LSU’s offense will still struggle.
by squinky86 on Oct 29, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also thought Kentucky's offense would stuggle against us...
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by TopDaddy on Oct 29, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Over our last 3 SEC games
LSU
Ave offense: 302 yds/gm
Ave defense: 265 yds/gm
Bama
Ave offense: 322 yds/gm
Ave defense: 277 yds/gm
So Bama has been averaging about 20 more yds/gm on offense but has been giving up an extra first down per game… I think these are two pretty evenly matched teams who will be battling for the SEC West crown in a week.
by LSU Jonno on Oct 29, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No fair...
you’ve got Vandy and the Barn in there!
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by Stuck in the Plains on Oct 29, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
While we've played 2 ranked teams
and all three are in the top 20 in total D…So. Car (14), UT (10), OM (20).
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by Stuck in the Plains on Oct 29, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True...
… didn’t really think about that.
On the other hand, though, LSU is 22nd in total defense, and after annihilating Tulane they will be even higher in total defense, so that doesn’t make a whole lot of difference, IMO.
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by outsidethesidelines on Oct 29, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Defensively,
LSU is as always: Stout up front, but can give up the big plays. I think in a game predicated by big plays and turnovers, that we matchup a little better.
/prays we can stop the slant, which even Crompton can throw.
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by Stuck in the Plains on Oct 29, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
… that’s my thing about this LSU defense. To me, they are weakest up front, on both sides of the ball really.
This is the weakest lines I’ve seen out of LSU since they really took off under Saban.
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by outsidethesidelines on Oct 29, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right about that
LSU skill players are very good but their lines are their weak link. That doesn’t mean their lines are bad, but they are not comparable in talent to their receivers and secondary.
MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--
BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.
by Bamagrad on Oct 29, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which, in retrospect,
explains a lot about the offense struggling. We’ve got one more tough D to get by (LSU), one more that is always inexplicable (Mss St), and then to the Barn.
"Hollywood made a movie of my life. The film had me proposing to my wife on the football field. I would never misuse a football field that way." -Crazy Legs Hirsch
by Stuck in the Plains on Oct 29, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not true...
Their last three conference games came against Georgia, Florida, and Auburn.
That said, I think there’s still a decent argument there. Georgia looks to have its worst team in 10 years, Auburn has imploded, and Florida was playing conservative as hell with Tebow not being 100%. That’s not exactly a rough slate, really.
On the other hand, it’s not like Ole Miss, South Carolina, and Tennessee are making the Super Bowl either.
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by outsidethesidelines on Oct 29, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forgot about
the WAC in Athens UGA.
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by Stuck in the Plains on Oct 29, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the other hand, it’s not like Ole Miss, South Carolina, and Tennessee are making the Super Bowl either.
They have earned a spot in the Super Bowl of Goons.
MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--
BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.
by Bamagrad on Oct 29, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Arkansas and Auburn
resent that. Please leave your name and address and Ryan Pugh will be along to chop block you later this evening.
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by Stuck in the Plains on Oct 29, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure
we can find a berth for them, too.
MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--
BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.
by Bamagrad on Oct 29, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LSUs offense has struggled against nearly everyone...
Except for the Barn, and nominally UW. Hell, if UGA and Vandy can do it…
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by Stuck in the Plains on Oct 29, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I concur...
I don’t think much of this offense. I mean yes they put up 31 points against Auburn, but so what? Hell, even 1-7 Ball State put up 30 points against that turnstile defense. And besides, it’s not like LSU could even run the ball on them… Charles Scott got a whopping two yards per carry.
I don’t expect them to score many points against us, but again it really won’t matter unless we do a lot better offensively. Otherwise, their offense will suck, and our offense will suck too, so that will be a push.
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by outsidethesidelines on Oct 29, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Turnstile Defense
classic
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by BamaReturns07 on Oct 29, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell, even 1-7 Ball State put up 30 points against that turnstile defense.
“BUT IT WAS OUR BACKUPS!!!11 DAM U BAMMERZ!!11”
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by Bens4vcobra on Oct 29, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see...
I don’t see LSU’s offense doing much against our defense, but as long as our offense looks anything like it has the past three weeks, it won’t matter much. Truth be told, any opposing offense that can net 17 points against us can probably get the win now.
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by outsidethesidelines on Oct 29, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
…since we’ve only scored less than 20 in one game, I’d say we could set the bar a little higher than that…but I get the gist of it.
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Oct 29, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt it...
… two offensive touchdowns in three weeks. When you’re barely scoring 20 points with pick-sixes and Tiffin being lights out, the smart money, moving forward, is on less than that.
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by outsidethesidelines on Oct 29, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really...
…not if you’re playing, say, Auburn, whose own defense is so porous that we could probably score twice with Tiffin at RB…or LSU, whose HC makes crazy decisions that can turn a game in the wrong direction in a hurry. I’m also expecting to see some improvement offensively after this week off, so that we may not leave quite so many points on the field moving forward. I don’t expect drastically improved results, but I do expect improvement.
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Oct 29, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree...
…If McElwain doesn’t pull his head out of his ass and start calling some smart plays, we could very easily loose to LSU. I still haven’t gotten over the unbelievably stupid play calls when we had a golden opportunity to score late in the half against UT. I mean, with a seond and two at the four-yard line, we basically had sevn plays to make four yards: 3 chances to get two and the first down and four chances to get the last two yards. The wildcat with both Ingram and Richardson in the backfield was working. They are our best backs and the defense didn’t know which would get the carry. Or, we could have put Cody in at fullback and had Ingram run behind him. It’s worked every time we have run it but McElwain doesn’t seem to get it. Could anybody explain why he decided to have McElroy, who hasn’t made a good throw in weeks, try two fade passes instead of powering the ball in? That was one of the worse coaching decisions I have seen in a long time.
by AtlBamaGuy on Oct 29, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m going to suggest a novel concept: McElwain and Saban are better football coaches than you.
Now, before you dismiss that as outright ridiculous, think about this for a moment: you thought those calls were dumb. Lots of other people did, too. I hope you don’t think that it never occurred to our offensive staff to run the ball.
There are a thousand reasons why one might want to call that series of plays.
One is that UT proved pretty clearly that they can’t cover any of our receivers without committing pass interference. Unless you believe that there’s some anti-bama officiating conspiracy, you have to believe that, eventually, either a) Julio is going to get that ball or b) we’re going to get 1st and 10 from the 2 after Julio gets interfered with. If (b), the defenders would have to play a little closer to the rulebook for a while, giving us even more opportunities to throw to one of our biggest play-makers.
Also, realize that “Play X works, let’s just run Play X” is a pretty weak line of reasoning. Especially when Play X was working in the middle of the field and you’re now on the goalline where the field can be well-covered with fewer (and slower) defenders, allowing more run-support.
Basic point: We have an outstanding coaching staff. If you think something our they’ve done (especially repeatedly) is really stupid, there is a very good likelihood that you just haven’t considered everything that they had in mind.
I'm wrong all the time.
by PeteHoliday on Oct 30, 2009 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is the Biggest game of the year!......Duh.
I think both teams will be at their best and it will boil down to which qb plays best and who does the better job coaching. The qb battle is a toss up, but for the coaching, CNS wins it by a hat.
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by jtCRIMSON on Oct 29, 2009 1:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Counting 2007, this is the fourth time in five years
that the SEC West came down to the LSU and Alabama game. If this game is anything like the previous four, I’ll be two years older at the final gun.
MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--
BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.
by Bamagrad on Oct 29, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They
say alcohol takes years off your life so that’ll be 5 for me.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
by Bens4vcobra on Oct 29, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Both teams...
…have not been at their best in the previous two matchups, so who knows what we’ll see.
But yes, I’ll take the man-crusher vs. the man-smoocher any day.
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Oct 29, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have been screaming since June...
THIS is the game, not Ole Miss…THIS ONE. And, I wouldn’t expect anything other than what we’ve seen the past decade: sloppy, ugly, physical, with turnovers deciding the outcome.
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by Stuck in the Plains on Oct 29, 2009 1:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yep.....
I expect it to be another game where you’d better clear the house, and keep small children and animals away from me, and make sure that if you can understand the football speaking in tongues, I maybe in full force!
Oh please, let us run the ball on 2 down from the 4, and may we pass the ball like the beginning of the season, oh pleassseeee!
I don't mind bad news, and I don't mind good news, but I can't stand surprises! Coach Nick Saban
by jtCRIMSON on Oct 29, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Line?
Has anyone seen an ealry line on the game yet? I’m guessing it comes out Bama -9 1/2.
by tide96 on Oct 29, 2009 2:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No...
… the lines won’t come out until Sunday night. Either way, don’t expect ’Bama to be anywhere near that highly favored.
Given how we’ve played in recent weeks, we’ll probably be favored somewhere between two and five points.
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by outsidethesidelines on Oct 29, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
Personally, I’m expecting 4 points with a downward trend.
I'm wrong all the time.
by PeteHoliday on Oct 29, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish
it would be that high because I’ve been betting for our opponents out of superstition all season long.
I’ve won in each of the last two weeks as the games have been tougher. I’d like to get back to my losing ways.
MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--
BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.
by Bamagrad on Oct 29, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Games of the year
had the early line at 2.5, I expect it to open at 6/6.5…and I’ll take it. (hell, we’re 5-3 ATS, why not?)
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by Stuck in the Plains on Oct 29, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
back in the summer
it was BAMA -3. i’d imagine it wont move far, no more than -4 or less than -2 i’d think.
welcome to the SEC kiffykins...
by tempebamafan on Oct 30, 2009 4:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So this would make
2 yrs in a row with us locking up the west with two games to go if we win
thank god for Saban
Terrence Cody eats your field goal!
by Wallacewade04 on Oct 29, 2009 3:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I went back and looked at the LSU/AU game and noticed that the score looked better than the game.
LSU was coming off a bye week and should have been rested, but as you can see their scoring drives were gifts from the barners.
First scoring drive started at the LSU 25, but with 3 defensive penalties (PI, PF, and OS) net yards = 40
LSU 7 – AU 0
Second drive from LSU 22, drove down field but stalled and missed field goal.
LSU 7 – AU 0
Third drive of a Todd sack and fumble from AU 11, Jefferson keeper for TD. net yards = 11
LSU 14 – AU 0
Fourth drive started at the 28, drove the field and Jefferson fumbled into the endzone.
LSU 14 – AU 0
Next drive came compliments of AU’s muffed punt return and turnover. LSU settles for FG. net yards = 36
LSU 17 – AU 0
- Half *
First second-half drive started after poor kick return coverage gave LSU the ball at their 45. 3 pass plays lead to TD. net yds = 55
LSU 24 – AU 0
Barners get a FG after starting and their 40 and having a 1st and Goal.
LSU 24 – AU 3
After a poor AU kick, LSU started at their 45, but after 8 plays and a penality had to punt.
This next drive of LSU’s was a 2 play TD drive with Sheppard runnng for a 69 yard touchdown. net yards = 75
LSU 31 – AU 3
All this being said, LSU’s average scoring drive was a mere 36 yards. Jefferson was also rocked by AU’s defense where he just sat on the field of play for it seemed like 10 minutes. Lee finished the game.
LSU did not look that good for coming off a bye week and outside of the last TD drive, I like our chances of winning next week by 10+ points.
Got that winning feelin'
by skycaster on Oct 29, 2009 3:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed...
LSU didn’t look all of that great against Auburn as much as Auburn beat themselves with penalties. They stopped themselves at midfield on the opening drive on a 4th and 1 with a false start, gave LSU 60 yards on penalties in their first two drives alone, and then a fumble deep in their own end.
Honestly, LSU went up 14-0 with only about 60 yards of total offense. And then Auburn gifted them a field goal right before halftime with a muffed punt.
We won’t hand them a game like that, I’m sure, but by the same token again I’m just not sure I can see our offense scoring a lot of points either. I’m expecting a close, low-scoring game.
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by outsidethesidelines on Oct 29, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have faith that Saban will address that "risk adversive play calling" thing with McElwain and McElroy.
so we can have a true Mac attack again…….couldn’t resist.
Got that winning feelin'
by skycaster on Oct 29, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LSU didn’t look all of that great against Auburn as much as Auburn beat themselves with penalties.
We all know it was a conspiracy to make the Bama/LSU game a much better match up.
by jsholt969 on Oct 29, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good stuff.
I fell asleep after it was 14-0. When I saw the score the next day I just assumed LSU blew them out and dominated.
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by Bens4vcobra on Oct 29, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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