Brandon Spikes eye gouge
by zeke2029 on Nov 1, 2009 8:09 AM CST
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Anybody seen this play where Brandon Spikes jumps on the pile and tries to gouge the eyes of the Georgia back? Here's a vid:
After the big talk this week about suspending coaches, I wonder if the SEC will step up and do anything about this. Here's the pertinent NCAA rule (h/t BamaSportReport):
Flagrant Personal Fouls (Rule 9-6). For 2009-10 the rules committee has added a new section that calls for conferences in the days following a game to review certain particularly dangerous plays. This new rule says that if a player is ejected for any flagrant personal foul the conference must review the game video for possible further action. In addition, if the officials call fouls for targeting defenseless players or using the crown of the helmet and the player is not ejected, the rules mandate a conference review. Furthermore, if the review by the conference reveals actions that should have resulted in a personal foul but were not called, the conference may impose sanctions.
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damn that makes me dislike FL even more...
I hope the SEC bigwigs see this…
and I’m glad Ingram wears a visor…
enjoy...
Punishment?
Anything less than being suspended for the season would be a farce. UF is becoming known for being a dirty team. Does anyone remember their lineman kneeing Josh Chapman in head last year?
OH I F'ing do! I was rather chastised for being upset about it.
I live in the past and I'm better than you.
And there's the relatively minor...
…pull off of the LSU CB from Riley Cooper to get separation on the TD.
And, Brandon Spikes baits the 15 yarders
by not snapping his helmet in place. Any sort of scrumming about pops his hat off and, lo and behold, hands to the face, facemask, etc.
"Hollywood made a movie of my life. The film had me proposing to my wife on the football field. I would never misuse a football field that way." -Crazy Legs Hirsch
by Stuck in the Plains on Nov 1, 2009 10:38 AM CST reply actions
Accidents happen.
I don’t like seeing players get hurt. However, accidents happen, and helmets end up on opposing player’s kneecaps. It happens all of the time, and it’s a bad, bad thing that absolutely should not happen to this cheating, cheap shot taking player. Florida’s next opponent should absolutely not even THINK about one of their players accidentally tripping over their feet and hitting Brandon Spikes in the kneecap, full force, with their helmet first. That would be bad, wrong, and badwrong.
Got banned by Rocky Top Talk in only one real day of posting. Damn, that was a good day!
What?
I was just saying what absolutely should not happen to Brandon Spikes, and how awful it would be if someone did to him the same thing that Arky player did when he landed a chop block against Dont’a Hightower. I am absolutely not, in any way, shape, or form, suggesting that anyone should go headhunting for this punk’s knees. I’m all in favor of keeping the game clean and pure.
Got banned by Rocky Top Talk in only one real day of posting. Damn, that was a good day!
Exactly.
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Nov 1, 2009 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
well
he does play for a school in Florida. Florida should be renamed “thug” state.
Scoring against Alabama will be like birthing a child: rare, painful, and messy. - The Ghost of Jay Cutler
Thugida
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Nov 2, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
When you guys meet 'em in 'Bama...
I hope you go totally Medievil on ‘em (within’ the letter of the Conference law, of course…which ain’t much this year.)
Bye weeks: The time to tweak your fashion sensibilities.
We'll
meet them in ’Bama in 2010.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
...and Medieval.
guess i’m still cryin’. Can’t see the keyboard.
Bye weeks: The time to tweak your fashion sensibilities.
I think you missed something
Watshaun Early wears contact lenses and one of them popped out from the force of the hit. Spikes was frantically trying to catch it before it got lost in the turf!
Seriously though, you guys are right. He should be suspended for 1/2 of the Vandy game.
Eye gouging...
…is some funny stuff…good times….
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Nov 1, 2009 5:22 PM CST up reply actions
Looks like you're right
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4616581
It’s worth half the game against Vandy. I’m sure he’s learned his lesson.
Pathetic
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
That's kind of what my point was
What would it take for him to “learn his lesson?” Is 1/2 game enough? I think 1 game would have been more appropriate, but would it have mattered? Spikes messed up. what he did was stupid, classless, and unnecessary. He should have let his play (he had 10 tackles) and the scoreboard do the talking. He unfortunately chose to take the low road.
Spikes has been a good leader for our team and hasn’t been in a lot of trouble during his career. He deserves to be punished and I am pretty sure that his punishment will extend far beyond the public suspension for 1/2 game (plus anything the conference gives him). Meyer has been known to make guys pay physically for their stupidity – usually in off-the-field type accidents. Let’s be careful before you start throwing around the "kick off the team permanently " and “Meyer is wrong for not doing more” etc. What he did was wrong – but I think a public lynching might be a little extreme,
Private lynching?
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Nov 2, 2009 3:26 PM CST up reply actions
well, maybe still a little extreme
But I think more gassers than any of us could finish….in the central Florida heat, plus a suspension for a game might jog his memory as to what conduct is acceptable when representing one’s football team on the field.
You know I'm joking...
…but I do lose respect for a player when I see this kind of crap, even if he wears crimson.
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Nov 2, 2009 3:32 PM CST up reply actions
I know and I agree
It angers me because Spikes has embarrassed our program. I hope I never see anything like that again from one of our players.
SUSPENDED FOR HALF A GAME
shouldn’t be an option for any circumstances. if you f up bad enpugh to warrant a suspension it should be an entire game, NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE. U mean why not suspend him for 1 down? WTF
"Jay Jacobs can't go to the bathroom without Bobby Lowder's permission" - Paul Finebaum
by GumptownTiger on Nov 5, 2009 9:53 AM CST up reply actions
i understand a half-game suspension
For, like, missing a team practice. I’ve seen that before. I’m sure you have too. A half-game suspension, especially against an inferior school, is the lightest form of public punishment you can give.
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now for something like that
i can see the reasoning
"Jay Jacobs can't go to the bathroom without Bobby Lowder's permission" - Paul Finebaum
by GumptownTiger on Nov 5, 2009 10:05 AM CST up reply actions
If I were Brandon Spikes at this point...
I would be sure to wear googles for the rest of the season. It’s going to be open season on his eyes.
Shorty Price Lives
I didn't get to watch the game live
I’m sure Gary Danielson, despite his desire to not be a curmudgeon, pointed out how lucky Florida was to avoid a penalty.
SEC office will do
NOTHING to this thug. He clearly just decided “Hey, I’m going to poke someones eye out.”
SEC will look the other way. And maybe they should. If Slive suspened him he might just decide to go after Slive.
I can promise you if Nick Saban ever had a player do this they would suffer suspension and worse.
I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.
I think every team that plays
the Gators for the rest of the year needs to walk into the stadium for warm-ups wearing goggles to protest this mess until something gets done about it. This is disgusting, and though I would like to think that somehow it wasn’t intentional, the video doesn’t really seem to suggest any reasonable evidence that it could be. Think for a second – a guy’s eyes, or a stupid win in a football game – which is more important here. He needs a wake-up call, and it needs to come in the form of a suspension immediately. And, for the record, it needs to be more than 1/2 a game, there skigator.
I bleed crimson and white...I puke Vol puke orange. RTR
So what do you have in mind?
Nothing short of suspension for the SEC Championship Game, right? I know you like to play us without our best players, but no can do.
Any Bama fan will tell you that we want to beat Florida at their best, but we’re not going to risk the health of any of our players. Suspension for more than half a game is needed to make sure he learns his lesson. I would love for him to be back for Atlanta, but 1/2 a game is pitiful for purposefully trying to cause permanent injury to another person.
I’d say this is just as bad as the Oregon player punching the Boise St. player. At least with that guy he just lost his cool. This was deliberately and intentionally trying to hurt someone.
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
Good point.
But I think the Oregon player went after a fan.
And, who suspended the Oregon player? Oregon or the NCAA?
Meyers will do nothing, Slive will do nothing. Spikes will get nothing.
I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.
At least
Blount stood toe to toe (even though he had his helmet on, which is admittedly pretty cowardly) with the guy he punched. Spikes totally takes advantage of a player who is vulnerable. They guy is in the process of being tackled, has bodies on top of him and has no way to defend himself. It is sickening and cowardly. Even more cowardly than what Blount did.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
For real?
The player has turned around and was starting to talk to a coach – and was completely vulnerable. If that is “toe to toe” to you, then remind me never to box you.
it wasn't toe to toe..
….however, that kid provoked it and slapped Blount quite hard on the shoulder pad and said something. Whatever he said caused Blount to lose it and yes..he sucker punched him… I am in no way condoning Blount’s actions, but he lost his cool and reacted to someone provoking him. From the looks of it, Ealy was just being tackled….and Spikes purposely went after him without being provoked. My opinion. Could be wrong….
Toe to toe
or not, what Spikes did was worse.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
So mixing it up in the pile
is worse than coldcocking an opposing player in the face after the game, and then attempting to go up into the stands and fight the opposing team’s fans? Really?
Maybe not...
…but ‘mixing it up in the pile’ by gouging a player’s eyes is despicable, and asking a question like this only detracts from its grotesqueness, not to mention your own claim that you oppose such actions.
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Nov 2, 2009 10:16 PM CST up reply actions
Yes
ski, its worse. Its worse because of the potential injury that could’ve occured (i.e. CAREER ENDING/LIFE ALTERING). Also the complete vulnerability of the UGA player. He was in a pile, he had NO WAY TO DEFEND HIMSELF.
Both actions were thugish and not to mention cheap and cowardly. But Spike’s actions are worse becuase they are Tonya Harding-esque.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
Vulnerability
Is kind of like when a QB hands the ball off, and is facing the other way….and after the play is 10 yards downfield, and an opposing player blindsides him and knocks him down, right?
yes, that hit was cheap
no one’s denying that, but you’re still missing the point: hitting a qb in the numbers and knocking him down does not THREATEN HIS CAREER or ALTER HIS LIFE
"Well Eli, Smokey just came out of the tunnel, and he's about 100 yards away from me now, and if I had my deer rifle I believe I could drop him, back to you Eli" -- Jerry Duncan's comments to Eli Gold just prior to kickoff against Tennessee
by Thomas Walker Esq on Nov 3, 2009 1:07 PM CST up reply actions
Vulnerability Is kind of like when a QB hands the ball off, and is facing the other way….and after the play is 10 yards downfield, and an opposing player blindsides him and knocks him down, right?
This is a joke, right? You need to go back to law school ski and re-take moral equivilancy 101.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
My my, how we have all evolved....
Just a few weeks ago everyone here thought that a concussion was a life-threatening condition and playing after a concussion opened a played to permanent damage – and that Meyer didn’t care about his players because he dared put a guy out there who was recently concussed!
Yet today, that same player is fair game for a cheap blindsided shot because it’s not a potentional injury-causing play?
Rich.
by skigator93 on Nov 3, 2009 3:09 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Speaking of evolution...are gators becoming amphibians?
’Cause most of your posts on this thread are pretty slimy….
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Nov 3, 2009 3:31 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
You know...
…what the common thing is in those two discussions? Worrying about an individual’s safety.
Which, apparently,
skigator is not in this case, so long as his man gets to play a little on Saturday.
I bleed crimson and white...I puke Vol puke orange. RTR
I don't wish it on your team at all,
but I almost wish a similar situation would happen to y’all so that y’all would show what huge hypocrites y’all are being by standing up for such a thuggish and terrible act.
brandon spikes is a coward and you are just as bad
what he did tot he georgia RB is completely indefensable, not even pete holiday could come up with a justification for it. you look like a real scumbag when you try to explain it away.
it is what it is...
by Captain_Obvious on Nov 4, 2009 2:46 AM CST up reply actions
How do you define "best players" exactly?
The ones with the most physical talent, or the ones who resort to dirty play to win a game?
I bleed crimson and white...I puke Vol puke orange. RTR
Well,
there goes the respect I had for the one Gator fan I thought deserved it. I hope your guy doesn’t seriously hurt anyone. That would just take all the fun out of this, wouldn’t it?
I bleed crimson and white...I puke Vol puke orange. RTR
I think it is pretty clear who our best players are
Just as it is on your team. Wiseguy questions deserve wiseguy answers.
I think you know from my track record that I do not condone dirty play and/or cheap shots.
Back when Haynesworth was with the Titans,
there was no doubt, physically speaking, that he was physically one of the best players on the team. When he stomped the guy’s head during the game, he should have been kicked out of the NFL (based on his other attitude incidents as well). At that point, mentally speaking, he was no longer one of the “best players” – he was more of a liability than an asset. That’s why T.O. keeps getting traded; that’s why Randy Moss just about hit bottom as a player before Bellicheck straightened him out. If players don’t get disciplined for stuff like this, they become liabilities no matter how “good” they are. Again, you know what I meant – quit dodging the issue.
Your track record means nothing if you are now trying to defend what Spikes did. I’m sorry, but 1/2 a game suspension is laughable. No, he shouldn’t be out for the rest of the season, but come on.
I bleed crimson and white...I puke Vol puke orange. RTR
Whatever your track record used to be
…what your track record is now is that your “best players” can be as dirty as they want, and you’re totally fine with it.
Stay classy.
I'm wrong all the time.
by PeteHoliday on Nov 2, 2009 12:32 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
It really is, for all intents and purposes. Sure, you did dress it up… but “TRYING TO BLIND SOMEONE = 1/2 GAME LOL” is about as close as it gets.
I'm wrong all the time.
Are you actually here defending...
…or making light of this reprehensible behavior? Spikes wasn’t trying to win a football game. UF was up 31-10 at the time of this play, but even if they were behind, there is no place in football for this shit. It was plain and simple just a mean, spiteful act. If the holy Tebow condones it, he’s a major hypocrite. If YOU condone it, you’re just as bad as Spikes.
You had me at "ROLL TIDE"!!!
Tebow is only as
holy as you think he is. Personally I think Tebow is the lead punk in the UF gang. He wouldn’t gauge someone’s eye because might get caught and not get the Heisman. But he would want to, especially if it was a player from UGA.
And Urban Meyer probably secretly told Spikes “Way to go, and don’t worry we don’t need you against Vandy anyway.”
If this ever happens at Bama and our coach does nothing, I’ll yell for his head.
I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.
He wouldn’t gauge someone’s eye because might get caught and not get the Heisman. But he would want to, especially if it was a player from UGA.
And Urban Meyer probably secretly told Spikes "Way to go, and don’t worry we don’t need you against Vandy anyway."
Not fair. I’m not a huge Meyer, Tebow, or Florida fan, but no matter how underhanded we think someone may be, assuming stuff like that is below the belt. Let’s form our judgments about these guys based on what we know, and not what we assume.
If this ever happens at Bama and our coach does nothing, I’ll yell for his head.
Absolutely agree. Football is a sport where people sometimes get hurt, and it stops the game, and sometimes stops our hearts when we see someone go down. It’s fun up until that point, but during that moment, the fun stops. But we accept that as part of the game, and so do the players. What is NOT a part of the game is intentionally doing things that are against the rules that may seriously injure someone. That is not fun…ever, and if the game were played like that, I could not be a fan. If stuff like this happens, the coach needs to discipline, period.
I bleed crimson and white...I puke Vol puke orange. RTR
Whoa...
There’s no reason to assume that about Tim Tebow, nor is there a reason to think that Urban Meyer secretly encourages eye gouging. Just because they play for another team does not make them Auburn, Tennessee, or for that matter Notre Dame. Save all false aspersions for the players and coaches of those teams, and you’ll never go wrong.
by crimsontsunami on Nov 3, 2009 1:54 AM CST up reply actions
Except...
For Ryan Leaf’s, er, Tim Tebow’s defense of the act and pathetic excuses. Tebow’s dirty, Spikes is dirty, and Urban Meyer is the dirtiest of them all.
Got banned by Rocky Top Talk in only one real day of posting. Damn, that was a good day!
My views on the subject are...
what Spikes did was inexcusable and cruel, and he deserves to be punished a lot more than he was (not just for the sake of punishing him in particular, but to show that eye gouging will not be tolerated at all in the future). Tim Tebow’s remarks were idiotic, but it doesn’t make him a dirty player, it just makes him very capable of stupidity. I don’t like Urban, because he won’t discipline his big-time player for gouging a player’s eye, as well as the running up of the score against Georgia last year. If these things took place at Alabama, I’d find it difficult to root for us. However, the post above claims three things about Tebow, Meyer and Florida in general that I do not agree with: (1) That Tebow is the “lead punk” of the Florida “gang” – this is a situation involving one player, not a whole team, and to implicate everybody is wrong. I’m sure there are many good-natured Florida players who would not appreciate being called members of a gang. (2) That Tebow wants to gouge a Georgia player’s eye, but won’t because it will damage his Heisman chances. (3) That Urban Meyer secretly encourages eye gouging. If you disagree about any of those three points, then that’s fine. But I don’t have to condemn a whole group of people for the actions of one player and the lack of disciplinary action from his coach.
by crimsontsunami on Nov 3, 2009 9:49 PM CST up reply actions
you should probably clarify
that just because you don’t agree with the severity of a punishment, doesn’t mean he didn’t discipline the player.
I don't agree when a serial killer gets 2 years either,
but he did get “punished.” I’m not comparing eye-gouging with killing someone (disclaimer for insane posters who might try to make that assertion), but I am saying that sometimes the punishment is so laughable that it might as well not even have been given.
I bleed crimson and white...I puke Vol puke orange. RTR
He got one full game suspension...
Finally. I want Spikes to be well rested, so he can have no excuses when he is made to look like a middle school JV player by Bama at the SECCG.
Just because I'm an occasional to frequent troll, doesn't mean I lack a heart or don't have a point. Rocky Top Talk blog ban: I did it for teh lulz.
Yeah...
…he ‘suspended himself’ for the entire Vandy game. He’s also placing himself on house arrest and sentencing himself to 30 hours of community service.
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Nov 5, 2009 7:44 PM CST up reply actions
It's really more fun...
If you post something like that on Alligator Army. I’ve already been called the worst troll in all of SBN, and I haven’t even started yet. :)
Just because I'm an occasional to frequent troll, doesn't mean I lack a heart or don't have a point. Rocky Top Talk blog ban: I did it for teh lulz.
My avatar...
Is a picture of a young Johnny Rotten. I think that pretty well says it all.
Just because I'm an occasional to frequent troll, doesn't mean I lack a heart or don't have a point. Rocky Top Talk blog ban: I did it for teh lulz.
Speaking of which,
Word on the street is, Charlie Weis may have at least two unpaid parking tickets. You didn’t hear it from me.
by crimsontsunami on Nov 3, 2009 2:19 AM CST up reply actions
Also, for the record,
there are a few more games than one before the SECCG. I don’t appreciate you exaggerating my statement to defend an indefensible act. You know what I meant.
I bleed crimson and white...I puke Vol puke orange. RTR
florida is nothing but a bunch of bitchmade punk asses
and brandon spikes takes it in the keister.
welcome to the SEC kiffykins...
by tempebamafan on Nov 1, 2009 9:37 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Why wasn't number 51 (UF) called for a neutral zone infraction? The ball wasn't hiked
and he was already across the line!
You have opinions. We all do. Some of yours may have to do with the Falcons. Sign up today and share them.
Fact is...
The worst place to be in during a football game is under a pile..You guys wouldn’t believe the shit that happens…
Eye Gouging..Check
Ball grabbing..Check
Punching…Check
scrapping…Check
People telling you strange things about you and your mothers relationship..check
People telling you what they would do to your mother..check
Racial slurs…check
Swapping recipes…big check!
Scoring against Alabama will be like birthing a child: rare, painful, and messy. - The Ghost of Jay Cutler
Not
to mention the pinching. Which if what former & current players say is true, is probably the worst one.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
And there are ways of dealing with it...
My father was a QB on an Alabama high school champoinship team in the mid-fifties (i.e. before facemasks). One particular game, there was a defensive tackle that kept rubbing mud in is face every chance he got.
Finally, he told the offensive line to just let the guy through on a play without blocking him. Next play, dad, who had a cannon for an arm, sends the ball right on the sob’s crotch.
Needless to say, when the player finally came back into the game, the dirty play stopped.
Another story, back in 1999, in a presser immediately after the SECCG, Sean Alexander bragged about how he could always rely on Samuels to keep defensive players in line if they chose to play dirty. He’d just tell the big LT the number of the player “giving him the business”, and Samuels would do what was necessary to make the player stop.
I am not advocating retaliation per se, but you do have to defend yourself. It’s been common practice in baseball for years, and it happens in football as well.
Shorty Price Lives
i bet that hurt!
it is what it is...
by Captain_Obvious on Nov 4, 2009 2:49 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
ESPN's finally gotten wind of it
Urban Meyer:
“If that’s the case, I’ll have a very serious talk with him,” Meyer said.
Sounds like he’s not going to do anything, but now that it’s gotten national attention I think the SEC will have to address it in some way.
"A serious talk"
Yeah, I bet. It sounds like he caught his son masturbating as he was spying on a neighbor.
Brandon, it’s time you and I had a serious talk. Masturbating Eye-gouging is a perverse, personal experience serious offense we can’t take lightly. Go to your room.
MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--
BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.
It's very sad...
That a good kid like Auburn’s Zac Etheridge suffered such a nasty neck injury and is out for the season, while a punk like Brandon Spikes is healthy as a horse, or in his case, the south end of a northbound horse. The good thing, at least, is that Etheridge’s prognosis looks very good. I may be a die hard Tide fan, but at least I respect Chizik and the Tigers. This killed any respect I may have had for the Gators.
Got banned by Rocky Top Talk in only one real day of posting. Damn, that was a good day!
Skigator, I remember you.
I remember watching one of your movies on an oldies station when I still had all of my hair. Only problem is, I thought you were dead. Ed Wood, is that you?
Got banned by Rocky Top Talk in only one real day of posting. Damn, that was a good day!
urban meyer has no class and no character
and seriously skigator, you WOULD BE a straight up BITCH if you think it’s acceptable to do what spikes did, however (i’m reminded of a mark twain quote about it being better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt) YOU ARE A STRAIGHT UP BITCH for coming over here and trying to make a joke out of it.
welcome to the SEC kiffykins...
by tempebamafan on Nov 4, 2009 9:03 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
it would seem that the only name calling that has gone on would be when you called him "tough guy"
tempebamafan ascribed a personality characteristic to you (bitch-like), and i’d say it’s fair to say he made a value judgment as well. however the name calling, so far has come only from you.
it is what it is...
by Captain_Obvious on Nov 4, 2009 9:26 AM CST up reply actions
Typical Florida crap
The guy who pisses me off the most is Riley Cooper. He gets away with so much cheap crap (holds, pushes, the pull against LSU) every time I watch him. That dude grabs so much jersey and he goes way past legal blocking. I want to see him get knocked on his butt because he’s one of the first guys on their team to get dirty.
Aaron Hernandez does a lot of the same stuff when he blocks and goes for the ball. The officials need to call offensive PI on Florida more often.
MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--
BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.
yea, I remember twice in the span of 3mins...
that FL should’ve had Offensive PI called on them in that Arky game…
enjoy...
you're right
Florida is the only team in the nation that grabs jerseys! you should listen to yourselves.
Who on here actually knows a Bama player personally and can ask him how unusual it is for this type of stuff to go on during games? I would really be curious to hear a player’s response. Again, I am NOT condoning it. It was wrong, it was unsportsmanlike and I think he should be punished for it. But if you think Bama never does anything dirty during a game, you really need to wake up.
It's not that Bama or other teams don't commit penalties
it’s that certain players like Riley Cooper and Ryan Pugh commit penalties frequently with impunity. That’s to what I was referring.
MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--
BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.
I haven't seen an Alabama player do anything dirty during a game...
and if one of them did, I’d expect and hope for a huge suspension. If we can’t win the right way, we don’t deserve to win.
by crimsontsunami on Nov 3, 2009 10:15 PM CST up reply actions
Spikes suspended for 1/2 a game.
Update is here. The Alligator Army people are actually defending Spikes.
i read that aligator army defense earlier
those bastards slay me. If there had been video footage of this being done to Tebow, they would be organizing a riot and already would’ve gathered their pitchforks and torches….I just love the rationale “this happens all the time in football, if ealy didn’t get hurt, there should be no penalty”
"Well Eli, Smokey just came out of the tunnel, and he's about 100 yards away from me now, and if I had my deer rifle I believe I could drop him, back to you Eli" -- Jerry Duncan's comments to Eli Gold just prior to kickoff against Tennessee
by Thomas Walker Esq on Nov 2, 2009 1:42 PM CST up reply actions
I'm just over this shit...I'm over all the bitching (on all sides) about everything...
I want Bama to get through the regular season (unscathed) and play FL in the SECC already…
enjoy...
+ a billion!
Scoring against Alabama will be like birthing a child: rare, painful, and messy. - The Ghost of Jay Cutler
How much do you want to bet...
Anyone who dares to go into the dragon’s den and call them on it ends up banned from Alligator Shoes, er, Alligator Army? If you want to see an appropriate response, look no further than Oregon and the Blount incident. If you want to see a mockery of the game and an abdication of responsibility, look no further than Urban Meyer.
Got banned by Rocky Top Talk in only one real day of posting. Damn, that was a good day!
Tebow:
“I don’t think that we did anything in that game that they didn’t do,” Tebow said Monday. “If you go back and look at it and study it, you can see it in the film, too. It was an intense game, both teams were very passionate about it.”
He should post the Bible scriptures where it reads “An Eye for and Eye” on his face during the next game. Then I might actually like him….
by akbrown15 on Nov 2, 2009 2:47 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
um...
Brandon Spikes will refer you to the first book of Wu-Tang, Chapter 10, Verse 6: “…and, lo, the RZA did sayeth, ‘Turn the other cheek and I’ll break yer fuckin’ chin.”
enjoy...
by SpockJenkins on Nov 2, 2009 3:15 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Wu-Tang Clan is awesome!
it is what it is...
by Captain_Obvious on Nov 4, 2009 2:49 AM CST up reply actions
+0
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Nov 5, 2009 8:02 AM CST up reply actions
He should post the Bible scriptures where it reads "An Eye for and Eye" on his face during the next game. Then I might actually like him….
+1
In poor taste, but nice one.
Don't worry...
…we’ll suspend akbrown15 for half the UT-Chattanooga game….
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Nov 2, 2009 3:35 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
+1,000
"Jay Jacobs can't go to the bathroom without Bobby Lowder's permission" - Paul Finebaum
by GumptownTiger on Nov 5, 2009 9:59 AM CST up reply actions
You have owned this thread
"Hollywood made a movie of my life. The film had me proposing to my wife on the football field. I would never misuse a football field that way." -Crazy Legs Hirsch
by Stuck in the Plains on Nov 5, 2009 1:53 PM CST up reply actions
Ha...
….there are a lot of things I would like to say that would qualify as “poor taste”….joking of course. Unfortunately, there are a lot of “holier than thou” posters that would make comments and I dont feel like defending myself against nonsense…. but yeah, thanks for finding the humor in that one.
Now there is something we can agree on
I don’t get the one-strap open thing. It is amazing how many players do it too. There is a reason chin straps are made with double snaps on each end. Yet these knuckleheads think they look cool with only 1 strapped or something. As a Falcons fan, it used to drive me nuts when Vick did it – he would get his helmet knocked off a couple times every game. I was waiting for him to get hurt because he wanted to look cool.
100% in agreement with you on this.
Skigator, do you think Spikes will learn his lesson from a 1/2 game suspension? You know him and have followed him better than we here at Roll Bama Roll, and seem logical about all this. I know 1/2 a game is what you were proposing before the suspension came down, but personally, do you believe it will have any affect on Spikes?
I surely don't know him personally, but
I do know that he loves to play football and it is torture for him to watch from the sidelines (when he was hurt vs. MSU but dressed and hoped to play, he was pacing the sidelines like an expectant father). In that vein, I do think that his knowing that further dispicable actions will cause him to miss more football, will curtail such actions to avoid further punishment. I am not sure if that is really learning the right lesson or not, but I also don’t think that a full game or longer suspension would have a greater effect.
I know him
we hit the club every Saturday night in our velour tracksuits and shades.
MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--
BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.
Shouldnt the league pass a rule in which your helmet..
….must be strapped on securely? Seems like a no brainer!
Spikes is a thug
and Tebow is a punk. Is St. Tebow saying it is ok to put someone’s eye out if they deserve it? YES HE IS.
And the UGA running back had nothing to do with taking Spikes helmet off.
And suspended half the Vandy game. What a joke.
But, Urban wasn’t going to do anything until the video hit the press and then he decided he better do something to save a little face. The punishment does not fit the crime, it is a joke. What he tried to do was serious and could have led to a serious life altering injury.
I know bad stuff goes on in a football pile, but to me pinching someone, or even grabbing their balls is not the same as taking out an eye. Look at the video, he meant to blind the guy.
I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.
The punishment does not fit the crime, it is a joke. What he tried to do was serious and could have led to a serious life altering injury.
Can’t the same can be said for every late hit? So what you’re saying, is every guy who hits someone late, or leads with the crown should be kicked off the team?
it depends on how late it is. Hitting is part of the game, but if you have a brutal cheap shot when it’s clear that the play is over, then a multi-game suspension might be in order. Eye gouging, however, has no place in football.
The closest example I can think of was Marcus Vick stomping on an opposing player.
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
Yet another...
…question that makes it seem like you actually support the action that you claim to condemn. Trying to compare it to other acts, late hits and the like, is counterproductive.
We know you’re a homer, but the more you defend Spikes, the less rational you appear. He crossed a line, the RB may have been permanently injured, and there is no justification of it…at all.
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Nov 2, 2009 10:26 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
Here Here
Totally agree. There was intent to injure a helpless player here folks. It was meditated assault at least.
Really?
So now you can read minds too? Wow. I knew you Bama folks were pretty knowledegable about Bama football, but I never knew it extended to the ability to know the internal thoughts of opposing players.
Read minds?
take off the lawyer hat ski, seriously. This is not a court of law. Watch the video. What do you think his intent was? And speaking of courts of law, I don’t have to be able to “read minds” in order to be able to judge intent. Judges and juries judge intent every day with FAR LESS evidence than we have here. By using the “you can’t read his mind” logic, you are propping up an argument that can never be proven. It is useless. Get your head out of your ass, and stop insulting my intelligence.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
My bad, I just figured when
this claim was made
It was meditated assault at least
That it might have something to do with the law…..
Im gonna ASS you a few questions (sorry couldn't pass up the Ace Ventura line)
Do you think that Spikes “intended” to hurt the UGA RB by attempting to gauge the m’fers eye out? Yes or No…
Scoring against Alabama will be like birthing a child: rare, painful, and messy. - The Ghost of Jay Cutler
shit i wrote
gauge there…IDIOT! Thats suppose to be gouge…
Scoring against Alabama will be like birthing a child: rare, painful, and messy. - The Ghost of Jay Cutler
that's a loaded question
What do you mean by hurt? Do defensive players intend to “hurt” WRs when they are hung out to dry by their QB and reach across the middle? of course. Do they intent to permanently injure them? No, I don’t believe so, and I think the same holds true for Spikes.
Now who's reading minds?
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Nov 3, 2009 3:35 PM CST up reply actions
I believe
that player is trying to hit the WR as hard as he can as to 1. make him drop the pass 2. if he does catch it, the hit makes him fumble..
But i feel the same any time a players leads with helmet or purposefully attempts to hurt another player. Of course mistakes can happen i.e taking a bad angle and hitting a guy to low or high but what Spikes did was premeditated…
Scoring against Alabama will be like birthing a child: rare, painful, and messy. - The Ghost of Jay Cutler
but what Spikes did was premeditated
there you go again making this a legal situation when it really isn’t. By the way, Ealey, the vicitim of this premeditated battery / attempted maiming has come forward to say that he doesn’t believe that Spikes should be suspended at all.
and...
isnt this the same guy who also did something shaddy during that game?
What i don’t get is why you or anyone is comparing what Spikes did (a obvious retaliation/ premeditated act) that happened after the play was over, to a play where there was a possible late hit or even a guy leading with the helmet.
Scoring against Alabama will be like birthing a child: rare, painful, and messy. - The Ghost of Jay Cutler
That it might have something to do with the law…..
Wrong again.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
The lawyers who post on these sites
have earned my confidence. If I have any legal issues, I’m calling one of you guys because you fight to the death on the minor details and I like it. I’ll pay you 50 grand to get me out of bind.
MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--
BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.
E-lawyers:
I’m trying to think of words to adequately express my opinion, but a picture is worth 1,000 of ’em (or 50 of mine), so…
Just because I'm an occasional to frequent troll, doesn't mean I lack a heart or don't have a point. Rocky Top Talk blog ban: I did it for teh lulz.
by Anarchon on Nov 3, 2009 10:17 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
that camera is not being fully utilized to the best of its abilities
it is what it is...
by Captain_Obvious on Nov 4, 2009 2:51 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I defended Spikes?
Or is that just your imagination?
I never defended his actions – just stated that a one game suspension would have been appropriate given the circumstances, rather than a public flogging and suspension for the season.
If you...
just stated that a one game suspension would have been appropriate
…then this thread would be a lot shorter.
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Nov 3, 2009 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
Send an Email to the SEC
Here is Mr. Bloom’s email address cbloom@sec.org. I suggest you send a courteous email to the conference to express your shock at their and the Universities negligence in this matter. We are not talking about a late hit here or pushing down a qb, but trying to poke the eyes out of a helpless player with the intent to do damage. Ridiculous excuse making by Coach Meyers and absolutely insulting response by the conference. BTW, I did not see an email address for Mr. Slive or I would have emailed him. Please be courteous as that is the only way to get the point across.
make sure to sign your letter
“homer Tide fan who is desperately looking for some way to weaken the Gators team before we have to play them on the field.”
Oh yeah – you also might want to call the coach by his proper name in your courteous letter – calling him “Meyers” makes you sound like an uneducated, blabbering congresswoman.
Any player who did something like this
deserves at least a one game suspension. ESPN Radio’s Mike Golic suggested a better alternative: early morning workouts until he pukes his breakfast Monday and Tuesday for the next several weeks.
As a Crimson Tide fan, I want UF to be 100% and 12-0 in Atlanta. That way we don’t have to hear whining about how “we weren’t 100%” for the next several months.
I think the punishment might already include that type of thing
Many “on the inside” have stated that you don’t want to have to participate in Meyer’s punishment conditioning program. Who knows if Spikes’ punishment will include that regimen…but if so, missing some of the Vandy game is just the dessert.
Oh yeah – you also might want to call the coach by his proper name in your courteous letter – calling him "Meyers" makes you sound like an uneducated, blabberingcongresswomanAuburn fan.
MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--
BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.
If he tries that shit with me
if he gouges my eye on the lane, I’ll take it from him and stick it up his ass and pull the F’ing trigger til it goes click.
MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--
BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.
You said it, man
Eight year olds, Dude.
MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--
BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.
It's our secret plan to distract y'all
Spikes, Urban, Slive, Danielson, Verne – all are in on it. It’s part of the conspiracy.
Oh. Em. Gee.
you’re right!!! I thought I saw a Gator tat on Danielson during a broadcast…
when he showed his ass…
enjoy...
by SpockJenkins on Nov 3, 2009 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
well, maybe not Verne
That would be like telling a 3 year old a secret and asking him not to tell anyone!
I’m not sure if your internet works the same way mine does . . . but on my internet, I can just not read things I don’t care about.
YMMV.
I'm wrong all the time.
no, I have an old computer and makes me read everything...I'm it's slave...
yes, I understand that I can just not read this post, but doesn’t it seem like it’s old news already? the dude got suspended half a game…it prolly shoulda been longer but it’s not going to be…
enjoy...
But clearly some people are still interested in discussing it. Why it harms you any for them to continue that I don’t really understand.
I'm wrong all the time.
Pete...it doesn't harm me...
I’m just stating my opinion…and it seems like there are more important and interesting subjects than a Spikes eye-gouging during a FL/GA game…IMO…
but keep discussing…your replies, as well as some others, have made this post worth returning to…
enjoy...
Wow...just wow
I respect your position and wish that I felt the same way, but I don’t. I also wanted a 1 game suspension, simply because it’s Vandy and it would spare me the personal headaches of reading the moronic ramblings of UGA fans.
However, I can’t buy this part:
" And just like people use you as an example with regards to all the things you do so well, you should expect to have an example made of you when you engage in a behavior, common or not, that needs to stop."
I gave up pretending to care about "class" or "standards" a while ago. Winning makes me happy. Seeing a UF player poke an UGA player in the eye does not make me happy, but it doesn’t make me upset either. So, and this is just my personal feelings, winning is at least 1000x as important as playing with "sportsmanship" or "class" or anything like that. I just don’t care. I don’t want to see us turn into 1980s Miami, but if that’s the cost of ruling college football, so be it. I don’t care what any UGA fan cares about anything, and I don’t care what the national perception is. Scoreboard, scoreboard, scoreboard. It’s all there is.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 2, 2009 8:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Holy freakin shit…Saw this over at Aligator Army and it literally shocked me. I mean i knew people were making excuses but damn! Flat out saying that this isn’t a big deal to you and that “if that’s the cost of ruling college football, so be it.” I know i shouldn’t be shocked due to the fact that most gator fans have no class but this is an all time low…even for a gator.
Whoever Giant Catfish is should really be ashamed of themselves. And for you gator fans who think Bama fans would react just like this joker. go check out the post game and In game comments about McClains late hit in the Va Tech game…I don’t beleive ONE PERSON (outside of that idiot on YouTube) made one excuse for him….
Scoring against Alabama will be like birthing a child: rare, painful, and messy. - The Ghost of Jay Cutler
I don't think you should take the above personal thought
and attribute it to the entire Gator Nation. I don’t think there are many who feel that way.
Catfish just needs to understand that when you are on top, everyone wants to cut you down….he is probably a younger fan who didn’t suffer through the bad times long enough to enjoy these good times.
i just can't
believe no one from you site said anything..besides me…If someone here would have defended Ro in the same way, he would have been made to feel very stupid..
Scoring against Alabama will be like birthing a child: rare, painful, and messy. - The Ghost of Jay Cutler
the readership over there isn't in the same ballpark as this blog
it’s like comparing Neyland to Memorial (Nashville) and saying “nobody in the stadium noticed?” I think in time, he will be called down.
i gotta say
Thats a nice compliment there skigator..i think…
Scoring against Alabama will be like birthing a child: rare, painful, and messy. - The Ghost of Jay Cutler
(after i posted a comment about how Brandon Spikes admitted to doing something bad — namely, the eye gouging that he was accused of (by not changing the terms of what he’s apologizing for, I believe logic claims that he’s admitting to the original accusation) and apologizing for it)
Posted by wangalusa
do you see in that statement that he admits to trying to gouge Ealey’s eyes? He admits what he did was wrong, but he doesn’t say what you say he says.
You’re reaching here.
It’s the Florida-fan denial of the action itself that REALLY bothers me.
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
Your expectations of certain people are too high...
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Nov 5, 2009 10:31 AM CST up reply actions
i thought Giant Catfish
was playing QB for tennesee, or am i late for yet another meme party?
welcome to the SEC kiffykins...
by tempebamafan on Nov 4, 2009 10:52 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Everyone needs to let this go
Yes, what Spikes did was despicable and classless and yes he should have gotten a full game suspension not just a half. But come on, we got LSU this week, certainly there are more important things to discuss then this thuggish act by Spikes.
certainly there are more important things to discuss then this thuggish act by Spikes
1. Beating LSU
2. A nice pair of DD’s
3. Winning the SEC West
4. A big round butt under a little bitty waist
5. Winning the SEC championship
6. Making babies (with a woman)
7. Ending LSU’s winning streak in Bryant-Denny Stadium
MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--
BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.
very true....
…..we haven’t beat LSU in T- Town since 1999. yikes! Let’s nip that in the bud right now.
we think alike...
1. Beating LSU
2. A nice pair of DD’s
4. A big round butt under a little bitty waist
6. Making babies (with a woman)
^^^ in that order…for now, at least…
enjoy...
You can do side-bends or sit-ups
MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--
BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.
We're all mistaken...
Spikes was administering the traditional eye cup to flush away impurities…
"Hollywood made a movie of my life. The film had me proposing to my wife on the football field. I would never misuse a football field that way." -Crazy Legs Hirsch
by Stuck in the Plains on Nov 3, 2009 4:24 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
you tube is blocked at my work
can someone explain what the heck is going on? did brandon spikes try to intentionally eye gouge a georgia player? that sounds pretty far fetched but messed up if true…
i'm not signin shit
by Captain_Oblivious on Nov 4, 2009 2:56 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
That's pretty much what happened
if you haven’t caught on yet. In his defense, Brandon Spikes was very likely treated similiarly earlier in the game by a Georgia player, and the game was very chippy. The biggest problem is that he got caught live on CBS, which is not a good thing. I don’t think Spikes is a thug, I don’t think he thought through what he was doing clearly enough. what’s really disappointing, to me, is the defense of the actual action by Florida Fans, Florida Players ( a bit more reasonable ), and Urban Meyer ( not so much ).
The people over at Alligator army were very, very weak, both the writers and the readers, from what I could tell, with a few exceptions of course.
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
i think you may have to give a more simplified breakdown for Captain_Oblivious to actually comprehend what you're trying to say
perhaps if you could have Sesame Street characters act it out for him, or some sort of activity that involves coloring books…
welcome to the SEC kiffykins...
On a more serious note:
Can we make a new blog-o-sphere award? “Most Pathetic Reaction to a Serious Thing of the Year”?
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
no shit
that realy is dispicable, what spikes did is much worse than what legarret blount did. anyone who tries to justify it or claim that “his apology is not an admission of guilt” is just a really sick person with no ability to apply an ethical standard to themselves or the team they root for.
welcome to the SEC kiffykins...
I think the action itself is worse, but the motivation wasn’t. I like Brandon Spikes, I really really do, though some of that is undoubtedly bias from my girlfriend knowing the Spikes family, somewhat (in that they attended the same highschool in a rural area, they weren’t “friends” or anything like that). I think if Miss Momma Spikes was the one who found her kid doing that Mr. Brandon Spikes would be pumping gas mowing grass for a month, and football be damned!
I think it’s more most people who are actually from Florida have no class.
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 6, 2009 10:33 AM CST up reply actions
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