Week Nine BlogPoll Ballot Submitted

by Todd on Nov 1, 2009 2:54 PM CST Comment 14 comments

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Rank	Team	Delta

1	Texas	2
2	Alabama
3	Florida	2
4	Iowa
5	Boise State	2
6	Cincinnati	1
7	TCU	1
8	Oregon
9	LSU	3
10	Georgia Tech
11	Penn State	2
12	Pittsburgh	3
13	Southern Cal	4
14	Houston	3
15	Utah	3
16	Arizona	3
17	Miami (Florida)	5
18	Rutgers	7
19	Ohio State
20	Wisconsin
21	California
22	Notre Dame
23	Troy
24	Oklahoma State	10
25	Virginia Tech	14
Last week's ballot

Dropped Out: Central Michigan (#16), West Virginia (#20), South Carolina (#21), Oklahoma (#23), Mississippi (#24).

Rank	Team	Delta

1	Texas	2
2	Florida	1
3	Alabama	1
4	TCU	2
5	Boise State	2
6	Iowa	2
7	Cincinnati	2
8	Oregon
9	LSU	3
10	Georgia Tech
11	Penn State	2
12	Pittsburgh	3
13	Southern Cal	4
14	Houston	3
15	Utah	3
16	Arizona	3
17	Miami (Florida)	5
18	California
19	Ohio State
20	Wisconsin
21	Rutgers	4
22	Notre Dame
23	Troy
24	Oklahoma State	10
25	Virginia Tech	14
Last week's ballot

Dropped Out: Central Michigan (#16), West Virginia (#20), South Carolina (#21), Oklahoma (#23), Mississippi (#24).

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Looks reasonable,

though I don’t get the TCU hate. According to Sagarin, TCU’s schedule ranks 46th while Boise’s is 80th and Cincy’s is 74th. I think they deserve to be 5th.

by rugman11 on Nov 1, 2009 3:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

There's no TCU hate...

…but Boise’s win over Oregon looks more and more impressive as the season goes on. I’m considering bumping them both ahead of Iowa and Cincy, though.

Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.

by Todd on Nov 1, 2009 3:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I guess "hate" is the wrong word,

but when there are 7 undefeated teams and you have TCU behind the other six, I would expect a good reason. I’ve seen nothing from Boise or TCU that tell me they’re better than TCU. Yes, Boise beat Oregon and that win is looking better. Their other wins, though, have come against teams ranked 145, 135, 124, 99, 92, 86, and 32 (according to Sagarin). They’ve only played three games against teams in the Top 90. TCU has twice that number and Cincy has five.

I get that you don’t hate TCU, but other than that one win, Boise has nothing on TCU this year.

by rugman11 on Nov 1, 2009 4:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Are you sure TCU...

…isn’t better than TCU?

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Nov 1, 2009 4:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, yeah, yeah

So I didn’t proofread my post.

by rugman11 on Nov 1, 2009 4:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Cal/Rutgers

I’d have Cal ahead of Rutgers. Rutgers has a losing record in the Big East and their best win is probably over UCONN. Cal at least has a winning conference record. And though they both beat their one commont opponent (Maryland), Cal dismantled them well beyond what Rutgers did.

RollBamaRoll.com

by Nico2.0 on Nov 1, 2009 3:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

yeah rutgers sucks

but so does Cal… Cal tried their hardest to give ASU the homecoming game, but ASU just wouldn’t take it.

final judgement, Cal>Rutgers by 14 or more if @ cal, or Cal in a real close one @ rutgers.

welcome to the SEC kiffykins...

by tempebamafan on Nov 1, 2009 9:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Texas?

Again? Well, I don’t really have anything to say about that that’s different than what I mentioned last time…but we all know it doesn’t really matter. But I’ll ask a few questions…like…if they played on a neutral field, and you had to pick the winner straight up…would you take…

1. Texas over Florida?
2. Texas over Alabama?
3. Florida over Alabama?
4. Boise State over Oregon?
5. Cincy over TCU?
6. Iowa over LSU?
7. Rutgers over Virginia Tech?

I’m sure few of us would have the same answers to all seven of these, but I think these are just the types of questions to consider if you’re seriously ranking teams.

By the way, my answer…to all seven…is ‘No’….

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Nov 1, 2009 4:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

At this point

I wouldn’t pick Alabama over either Texas or Florida. And while I would pick Oregon to win against Boise if they played again today, the fact is that Boise beat Oregon. So if you’re implying that Oregon should be ranked higher than Boise because they would probably win on a neutral field today, that’s just plain stupid. Rankings shouldn’t be based on what we THINK will happen, they should be based on what has actually happened.

by rugman11 on Nov 1, 2009 4:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Ding! Ding! Ding!

Congratulations! You found the trick question, hidden in plain view in the middle of the other six.

The reason I included this is that it is quite likely, should Oregon and Boise State each run the table from here, that Oregon would be ranked ahead of the undefeated team that beat them on the blue turf to start the season.

Based on your response, you win a year’s supply of hypothetical steak dinners.

But I still wouldn’t take Boise vs. Oregon on a neutral field. Just sayin’.

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Nov 1, 2009 5:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

i'm not sure i follow

boise state SHOULD BE ranked ahead of Oregon because they soundly beat them two years ina row now. screw whatever hypothetical scenario anyone wants to dream up. Boise owned oregon @ oregon and @ boise. Boise state is clearly a better team than oregon, and if they DO play again, my money is on boise, AGAIN.

also, i’d take iowa over LSU. LSU cant score on iowa, Stanzi would put up at least 13 or more on LSU. iowa wins that game comfortably…(like 13 to 3 comfort)

welcome to the SEC kiffykins...

by tempebamafan on Nov 1, 2009 9:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Not that it matters....

But why drop us after we played our best game in a month?

by skigator93 on Nov 1, 2009 4:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I'm wondering

if the delta value shown is the difference between this week’s ballot and last week’s poll results, rather than the difference between this week’s ballot and last week’s. I agree that there is no reason to move UF down two spots, rather the opposite if anything.

by rco3 on Nov 1, 2009 4:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs