LSU fan here...
by schexyoung on Nov 1, 2009 10:27 PM CST
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Well the game is almost here...y'all had the bye week to heal...we had the...well a bye week to heal...
I have been reading RBR (seems to be one of the better Bama sites) the past week and decided to post what I believe to be an objective view of the game from a LSU fan's perspective.
Warning...kinda long...
Concerns for LSU
- Saban's combo coverages...CNS likes to use coverages with great mix of zone/man. These are more complex and take a while for Defs to learn. Well, Bama's def has learned them well. LSU has a young and realtively inexperienced QB, while he possess a great deal of talent is still only 19 yrs old. These coverages are tough for young QBs to read, not to mention that CNS does a tremendous job of disguising his coverages.
- Hands on Hips LSU Def...I feel that LSU def matches up very well with the Bama off, BUT if the LSU off struggles early and the TIDE continue to pound out long drives this Def will be exhausted by the 4th. This is my biggest concern. Quick three-n-outs by LSU's off and a Bama time consuming, flat out exhausting drives.
- Conservative Off...LSU has only recently begin to open up the off. I have a feeling that this could be a game where Miles decides to regress the off (^^cough^^ Florida ^^cough^^) to minimize mistakes by playing a very vanilla off. These plays right into the strengths of a nasty Bama def and also leads to Hands on Hips LSU Def...yikes.
Opportunities for LSU
- Stretch the field...I wholly believe that when LSU spreads the off out that it can become very explosive. (Tolliver/Lafell at WR, Scott/Keiland at RB, Holliday/Shepard Utility) These are some serious weapons to have on offense, and when JJ can push the ball vertically and horizontally with these guys, points can come quickly.
- The learning curve...LSU looked flat out bad on both sides of the ball early this year. This needs to be factored in with a completely new Def system and a VERY young QB. It seems that both sides of the ball are starting to really get a grasp of their assignments and potential. We all know they have the talent, but how long would it take for everything to come together...its almost there.
- Patrick Peterson...If there is ONE player who can man up with Julio, it's this guy. You know it..I know it...we both can't wait for this battle. If LSU can take away Jones then the focus really can be on stopping the run.
Should be a great game, unfortunately CBS is covering the game, so the over/under on tebow's name will be set at 435. Holliday as the fastest man, 265. Terrance Cody being very large and capable of blocking FGs, 5,000.
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Great post.
LSU’s talent at the skill positions is undeniable. But I think’s Bama’s advantage in the trenches is what will win this game. Based on how poorly LSU has run the ball and protected the QB, it’s likely that the combination of Cody, Dareus, Washington, and Deaderick will be the difference.
And you’re right about Peterson, dude can play. If McElroy keeps forcing it into Julio, the offense will continue to stagnate. He has to get back to distributing the ball to Maze, Hanks, McCoy, and (hopefully he plays) Peek.
Regarding Danielson and Lundquist, don’t forget that McElroy hasn’t lost a game as a starting QB or that Nick Saban used to coach at LSU!
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by BoylenOver on Nov 2, 2009 3:17 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Nick Saban used to coach at LSU
Haha, yeah, Danielson and Lundquist will make sure that all the viewers are aware. The majority of LSU fans are over with the whole “Saban” thing. I never really understood it, the guy lied to Dolphin fans not LSU. Unfortunately, the media anda minority of LSU fans think he killed all the first borns in Louisiana.
The truth is…Saban is one of the best def coaches in football. Before Saban, Dinardo starting building up a wall around Louisiana for recruiting, unfortunately he couldn’t beat medicore teams. Saban came in and put the last few bricks in place. Also, he came in at a time when TAF (tiger athletic fund) really kicked in to overdrive with the facilities/support that Dinardo generated.
LSU helped Saban just as much as he did the program. The media and those outside the program give Saban way too much credit for the progam. Just as most coaches get too much blame for a struggling program. The atheltic dept’s dedication is just as important as a HC, this is often overlooked.
by schexyoung on Nov 2, 2009 9:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I am glad to hear that the Saban hatred is not universal.
It doesn’t really matter, except it adds a new wrinkle to the game, I just never understood that. Had he left LSU for Bama I’d get it. When he left the Dolphins though his job at LSU was taken. I often wondered what LSU fans wanted him to do, go tell Les Miles to get out of his seat? It is always the disgruntled though that make the most noise.
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by LifelongBammer on Nov 2, 2009 11:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
LifelongBammer you nailed it...
There was shock among all the LSU fanbase at first, but the majority of fans were over with it before Saban even coached his first Bama game. The “hatred of Saban” is mostly Media and message board driven, as sad as that is.
by schexyoung on Nov 2, 2009 12:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
When has McElroy forced the ball into Julio?
He hasn’t been doing that this year at all!
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by BamaReturns07 on Nov 2, 2009 12:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Id say
he did that against Ole Miss.
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by bammer on Nov 2, 2009 1:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
TN
Auburn fans are like slinkys... not really good for anything but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.
by IHC800 on Nov 2, 2009 1:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
but he didn't
FORCE it against UT. Julio was just open.
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by bammer on Nov 2, 2009 2:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
True
i just can’t get over, not running the ball in that situation.
Auburn fans are like slinkys... not really good for anything but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.
by IHC800 on Nov 2, 2009 2:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
funny thing is..
Julio was open on both those passes. 1st one he dropped…2nd was a terrible pass/ miscommunication between McElroy and Julio.
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by bammer on Nov 3, 2009 12:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
2nd one...
…was PI…
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Nov 3, 2009 3:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
kinda long?
Go read one of OTS’s write ups…that shit is long.
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by bammer on Nov 2, 2009 8:36 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
No foolin'. OTS can put more into one write-up than I have ever learned
I get a lot out of them though. Apparently he doesn’t drink during the games.
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by LifelongBammer on Nov 2, 2009 11:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Which
is nothing to say of the length of OTS’s posts. Period.
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by Bens4vcobra on Nov 2, 2009 12:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It goes without saying...
that OTS’s has some long posts, it should go without saying.
by Espyonage on Nov 2, 2009 2:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
period.
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by kleph on Nov 2, 2009 2:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They've been double and triple teamed Julio all season...
This just gives Maze, Hanks and hopefully Peek a chance to make an impact.
My concern is that Sheppard will shake and bake enough not to break the big one, but keep the offense on the field.
Got that winning feelin'
by skycaster on Nov 2, 2009 9:17 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Decent write-up, but if you think Julio is our only receiving threat, I think you ought to go take a look at his numbers so far this season.
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by PeteHoliday on Nov 2, 2009 9:40 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t mean to imply that Julio is your only receiving threat. It appears that opposing teams are using stack coverages and double/triple teaming Julio. Thus, his numbers are way down. My point was that with Peterson LSU may not have to use so much of its def resources on one player. This would help contain the run.
Who is Bama’s other receiving threat that LSU should be worried about? Why hasn’t this threat pulled coverage away from Julio?
by schexyoung on Nov 2, 2009 10:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Julio is the biggest receiving threat we have. But he’s not even close to the only receiving threat we have. Maze, Peek, Ingram, and even Hanks at times have done a great job of getting open and getting the ball. Clearly the last few weeks have not been very kind to our passing offense, but that has very little to do with shutting down Julio and almost everything to do with GMac going through his reads too quickly.
If we get early season GMac back, you’re going to need to shut down a lot more than just Julio before you can say that the only concern left is the running game.
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by PeteHoliday on Nov 2, 2009 10:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ON the subject of Receiving threat...
It’s just as much about the QB geting him the ball as it is the WR getting open. Between Maze, Peek, Alexander, and Hanks we have enough talent to open things up for Julio. The problem is our QB’s can’t seem to go through their progression and find the open receiver.
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by bammer on Nov 2, 2009 10:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope the LSU coaches put Peterson 1 on 1 with Julio...
I don’t mean to sound arrogant or cocky, and I understand Peterson is a great player but I don’t think there’s any one guy in college football that can shut Julio down. I know you said if but I think that’s a very big IF. It may just be because I’m biased but I just don’t think Peterson can do it all game long by himself. McElroy needs to take a deep breath slow down and take his time. As someone mentioned earlier he is blowing through his reads entirely too quick! I have a feeling Bama will come back fired up and ready to play…This offense has a lot to prove and I believe they get it done this Saturday. Should be a good game though…Roll Tide!!!!
by 1rolltidefan on Nov 2, 2009 12:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The #1 reason why you don’t leave a DB 1-on-1 with Julio is this: If he catches the ball, the DB is probably going to need help to bring him down. Maybe not every time, but if Julio gets a little separation underneath and the ball is well thrown, you’re expecting a cover guy to make an open-field tackle on someone who runs like a tailback.
By all means, please cover Julio 1-on-1. In fact, don’t even bother with safety help. Please.
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by PeteHoliday on Nov 2, 2009 12:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Let us not forget this Julioism that you posted on another thread
"I get mad if one person brings me down," Jones said. "Even two, I mean, I get mad. I’m really hard on myself. I think I got that way from playing running back. I played corner and safety, too. I mean, I’m not scared to hit nobody."
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by LifelongBammer on Nov 2, 2009 12:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yes, please cover him 1-on-1
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by Thomas Walker Esq on Nov 2, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL... in this case a picture says about a bazillion words
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by LifelongBammer on Nov 2, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ugh..
either thats a Facemask on #4 or he is throwing left hooks at Julio, lol
by schexyoung on Nov 2, 2009 1:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
schexyoung, i've been meaning to ask you...
are you one of the blessed and supremely excellent “nayders” or one of those evil and horrible “neiders”?
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by kleph on Nov 2, 2009 1:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Kleph
where did your family originate in the US?
by schexyoung on Nov 2, 2009 1:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Côte des Allemands. just like yours...
but my kinfolk are mostly in the new iberia area.
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by kleph on Nov 2, 2009 1:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My parents...grand parents...great and so on...
are from the Vacherie area. I grew up in Lafayette so I am very familiar with New Iberia.
by schexyoung on Nov 2, 2009 1:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i lived in lafayette for awhile but realized my liver might not survive if i stayed.
but isn’t vacherie part of the old german coast, if i’m not mistaken?
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by kleph on Nov 2, 2009 1:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Old German coast...
I believe you are correct and that most of St. James Parish is the Old German Coast….DISCLAIMER…I haven’t researched this in awhile…my dad is big history guy…and he has done alot of research on the Schexnayder name…I’ll ask him and shoot you an email.
by schexyoung on Nov 2, 2009 2:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
please do.
now if we can just wean you of this LSU nonsense.
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by kleph on Nov 2, 2009 2:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ha...
The entire side of my dad’s family and I graduated from dear ol LSU…so probably not going to happen…my mom however is from Bama…she wears purple and gold for everygame except Bama…it’s hard to Tiger Bait your own mother…lol
by schexyoung on Nov 2, 2009 2:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If anyone would
it would be a tigah fan though.
Auburn fans are like slinkys... not really good for anything but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.
by IHC800 on Nov 2, 2009 2:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so sad...
even huey p. long had enough sense to get his education somewhere worth a darn.
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by kleph on Nov 2, 2009 2:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
kleph...
your opinion is respected, but I have done very well with my LSU degrees…I think you will agree with me in that an education is more about what the individual makes of it, than from where a person attends class.
by schexyoung on Nov 2, 2009 2:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well, i went to alabama on the stabler plan...
which meant i didn’t attend much class at all.
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by kleph on Nov 2, 2009 2:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They have...
…classes at Alabama? Damn…I wish someone had told me during the seven years I was there….
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Nov 2, 2009 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
kleph
I am a very proud schexNAYDER, the schexeiders, well when they got of the boat they had trouble with spelling, and thus a great divide was created. HA
by schexyoung on Nov 2, 2009 1:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i'm familiar with the story.
http://www.sbnation.com/users/kleph
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by kleph on Nov 2, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The WILDCAT
Bama fans…I have tried to watch as much of your games as possible, but can’t see every snap. How often is the WildElephant used? Is it mostly Ingram running it? How effective has it been?
by schexyoung on Nov 2, 2009 1:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
When McElroy has struggled,
Saban has employed the wildcat to put the ball in Ingram’s hands…it has been effective in those cases, especially since we threw one pass out of it in the Ark game, that’s kept the defenses honest in subsequent games
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by Thomas Walker Esq on Nov 2, 2009 1:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
during the SC game
we used it 5 plays in a row on our final TD drive. The gamecocks knew it was coming, and still could not stop Ingram
"Well Eli, Smokey just came out of the tunnel, and he's about 100 yards away from me now, and if I had my deer rifle I believe I could drop him, back to you Eli" -- Jerry Duncan's comments to Eli Gold just prior to kickoff against Tennessee
by Thomas Walker Esq on Nov 2, 2009 1:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of the Wild Cat
Maybe Sheppard will finally throw his first pass of the year against Bama…I hope so because defs are cheating way too close to the LOS when he gets in.
by schexyoung on Nov 2, 2009 1:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
check the highlights from the ark game on youtube
and you’ll see the pass to julio, ark’s secondary were cheating up close and no one noticed when julio ran right by them, funny enough, Ole Miss tried the exact same play on Ark the next week and hodge made it to the 1 yd line
"Well Eli, Smokey just came out of the tunnel, and he's about 100 yards away from me now, and if I had my deer rifle I believe I could drop him, back to you Eli" -- Jerry Duncan's comments to Eli Gold just prior to kickoff against Tennessee
by Thomas Walker Esq on Nov 2, 2009 1:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
KO and PR specialists...
a matchup that might not get much attention but will significantly impact Saturday’s game….Holliday vs. Arenas…both can change a game in about 5 seconds.
Here is some great news for bama…LSU’s punter is probably out of this game…and our backup looked pretty bad agaisnt Tulame.
by schexyoung on Nov 2, 2009 1:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
yes, Arenas can change a game, but odds are it'll get called back...
cuz of a hold or block in the back or tripping or clipping or eye gouging or something…
enjoy...
by SpockJenkins on Nov 2, 2009 2:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
On the return . . . Illegal Use of Textbooks, #41 on the receiving team. 10 yard penalty from the spot of the foul. First down.
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by PeteHoliday on Nov 2, 2009 5:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Please.
Cover Julio one on one so we can get him the ball.
I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.
by 5026 on Nov 2, 2009 7:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Great post Tiger
Can’t wait for Saturday to see a great game! Lord willing, it will be great for the TIDE!
by c4me on Nov 3, 2009 9:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Our announcer team must also remind us.
‘’That the Tide and Tigers meet for a chance to play in the SEC championship game versus the TIM TEBOW led Florida Gators.’’
Danielson better damn well just announce the game and not try to referee it.
by Crimsoncaller on Nov 4, 2009 10:22 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
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