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Boise State Wants Alabama in 2011


Boise State athletic director Gene Bleymaier is all but begging for a major opponent – any major opponent – to play his Broncos, particularly in 2011. He can hardly get his calls returned. Not by the SEC. Not by the Big Ten. Not by anyone.

Bleymaier is making a nearly unheard of offer in college football scheduling – Boise will bring its popular, high-profile, top-10 team to any stadium in any town to play any big name team in America in 2011. And they don’t have to return the date in Idaho.

So far, no one has bit.

Star-divide

I think you guys have a hole on the day in question, September 3, 2011.  Well, the Boise State fans are saying everyone is afraid of them.  Here's the story link.  Boise State is the team "No one will play . . ."

What do you all say?  Think it's worth a note to the AD? 

That would give Alabama back to backs with Boise State and Penn State, their SEC schedule . . .

Hell, what's the game for if not opportunities like this? 

ESPN is already pushing national TV for any major team taking the game with Boise on that date.  Be a sweet early season wouldn't it?

I love it personally.

Cheers,

Bob

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Playing Boise wouldn't benefit anyone but Boise..........

Compairable to playing Troy. A game we should win but if we didn’t….ouch! If we win, well thats to be expected. If we loose there goes the season. Theres just not enough glory for the win. On the other hand, props to any school willing to shut their trap.

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by mulletover on Nov 10, 2009 10:20 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Beating a top 10 team?

I’d say that could benefit us.

by Bobby Briggs on Nov 10, 2009 11:13 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

A few years back Boise State played Georgia. They talked a big game coming in and then got demolished. Didn’t do Georgia a damn bit of good. The problem is that Boise State tends to only be well ranked if they beat some powerhouse out of conference… so you either get a quality loss or a weak win . . . whereas Boise gets a huge SOS bounce no matter what and if they win they get vaulted into the top 10 discussion without having to play anyone else the rest of the year.

I wouldn’t play them, either. Play BCS schools in neutral site games or in a home-and-home series.

I'm wrong all the time.

by PeteHoliday on Nov 10, 2009 11:19 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I say, bring 'em on...

It would be a fun game to see, and a challenge for us. I see no downside unless we lose, which I never expect us to do. And who cares about an upside for Boise State? They can have all the upside they want. It would be a dream season to go undefeated with that schedule. And think about the implication: if a team wants to be the best, they have to beat the best—The Crimson Tide. I’m happy to let them try. It would create more fairness in college football for the non-BCS teams, and I’m always in favor of more challenges and interesting games for Alabama.

by crimsontsunami on Nov 10, 2009 3:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree

They keep winning and they will come in ranked, and you will demolish them. That’s going to factor in to how you guys are perceived. You beat x number of top 25 teams in a year?

Hey, that can’t hurt.

Top ten team this year, you guys had a chance ot knock them off right now saying you would not want it?

by MeanBobMean on Nov 11, 2009 3:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather get #1 UF, then #2 Texas

With all respect to a good BSU team.

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by Stuck in the Plains on Nov 11, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sure

But this is 2011, the early season, no big games and you guys would have two back to back? No crap about who has the hardest schedule after that.

National TV, two weeks of you guys owning the news cycle.

I’m really surprised guys are saying they don’t want the game or there is no upside or it won’t help with recruiting. This game would get major hype and viewership. None of that hurts recruiting.

by MeanBobMean on Nov 11, 2009 5:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It's not like...

we’re hurting for National TV exposure as it is, Bob.

I wouldn’t mind scheduling them, but not within weeks of Penn State. A year or so later would be fine, i don’t know about a home/home as i don’t think that Boise is anywhere i particularly want to go, but we could host them. They’d probably be much cheaper than some of the cupcakes we bring in nowadays.

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by That Other Dave on Nov 11, 2009 5:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

CBS =

Constantly
Bama
Station

We’re almost like Notre Dame and NBC…except we don’t suck.

by Nico2.0 on Nov 11, 2009 5:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

And we don't give children nightmares....

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by Stuck in the Plains on Nov 12, 2009 5:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

You guys got the exposure and not over schedulingpays dividens as well.

But you pull off a season like that and some kids on the fence are no longer going to Tennessee or Auburn, they’re saying “I like that attitude, take em on and beat them.”

It’s a dice roll in some ways, but you know, I like the idea of giving a schedule like that a run.

by MeanBobMean on Nov 13, 2009 10:01 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That...

….would be awesome, but I doubt it will happen. We already have our marquee game with Penn State that season.

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by Todd on Nov 10, 2009 10:21 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

on the road no less. They need to go talk trash to someone who is scheduling cupcakes instead of major non-conference opponents. And if we were to schedule a Boise like team, I’d rather get Utah for the chance at some revenge.

What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.

-Hank Hill

by Zoltar on Nov 10, 2009 10:24 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What’s on the road? We have Penn St. at home.

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by crimsonpride19 on Nov 10, 2009 5:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Not in 2011

We play Penn ST at home in 2010 and on the road in 2011.

by Chadrob15 on Nov 10, 2009 5:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You mean someone who played two Div-1AA teams this year in their OOC schedule....

like Ole Miss, whose coach used to be the head coach at Boise State. That would be interesting. And since it’s Ole Miss, nobody would think anything about it if they lose!

by theotherend on Nov 10, 2009 10:34 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather play

Southern Miss than those smurfs.

I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.

by 5026 on Nov 10, 2009 12:46 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed....

I’d rather play Southern Miss, Troy or anyone else other than Boise St. CNS is not afraid to play anyone, ie: Clemson & Virginia Tech, but why play someone that will not really be advantage in recruiting or the national picture. The only advantage is for Boise, so I think we’ll pass.

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by jtCRIMSON on Nov 10, 2009 2:08 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Nationll televised game, it will be hyped out of control,

And a chance to have not one but two back to back hyped, early season games?

Yeah, that will hurt recruiting.

;-)

by MeanBobMean on Nov 11, 2009 3:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

As rightly noted in Dawkins' book

(and I won’t be sharing the title of that one)

Great for your CV, not so fabulous for mine.

Seriously, this only benefits BSU. If the Broncos played in a place that were a font of talent, say Texas or California, I think that phone would be ringing pretty quickly. But it’s not like we recruit against Wazzou or Oregon State.

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by Stuck in the Plains on Nov 10, 2009 5:23 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I agree.

Boise State isnt someone I would schedule just to be brash. The SEC schedule is tough enough as it is. If we do play a non conference game against a top tier school…at least let it be against a school we recruit against. I say we take on Clemson, Texas, Oklahoma, FSU, Ga. Tech etc.

by akbrown15 on Nov 10, 2009 5:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

b/c we're stealing

so many recruits from Penn St these days…..j/k I know the difference between historic rivalries and just plain hubris

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by Thomas Walker Esq on Nov 10, 2009 5:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The God Delusion?

Now that the title’s revealed, your post has NO credibility and I win the argument.

by Bama philosophe on Nov 10, 2009 8:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

I’ll take a credibility battle of Dawkins v. The Rest of The World.

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by Stuck in the Plains on Nov 10, 2009 8:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

we all knew the title

but didn’t want to “out” you in a normal thread, maybe next off season in the news and politics thread.

but bama philosophe obviously doesn’t value your safety does he? could be an agent provocatur, i say we should keep an eye on him.

welcome to the SEC kiffykins...

by tempebamafan on Nov 11, 2009 9:34 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Bama Philosophe = frumentarii

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by Stuck in the Plains on Nov 11, 2009 12:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

it seems we hurt their feelings
there’s something wrong with tide fans if they think playing (and possibly beating) a top ten team doesn’t benefit their program. it seems to me it’s just another lame rationalization to keep playing out-of-conference creampuffs. it’s the typical bcs attitude of ’what’s in it for me’ that is stifling competition, limiting college football from achieving across-the-board parity and eliminating the good ole boy bowl system that keeps lining the pockets of the elite schools and the bottom tier schools in their conferences that are obviously teams that don’t compete on the level of tcu, bsu, utah, byu, fresno st or nevada.

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by kleph on Nov 10, 2009 7:34 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Hey

tell Boise when they start playing on a real field we will consider them. But for us to play them, even at home, while they still play on a BLUE FIELD with BLUE JERSEYS is just us encouraging them to change the tradition of college football.

Just thnk if others followed their craziness. For example UT and Clemson would play on orange fields and that would just be sick.

And, I think the blue field actually makes it hard for the opponets D to see their guys etc.

So tell Boise if they want to be like everyone else then act like everyone else. And while they are at it they could look into either joining a real conference or going totally independent like ND and putting together a real BCS type schedule.

I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.

by 5026 on Nov 10, 2009 7:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

So while you're at it

Make alabama-birmingham, baylor, cal poly, colorado state, eastern michigan, hawaii, michigan state, north texas, ohio, oregon, south florida, and tulane switch the color of their field so that the GREEN field with GREEN jerseys doesn’t make it hard for opponents to see their guys. And Boise State can’t just choose to join a “real conference,” they have to get invited, which hasn’t happened. Notre dame plays only 2 ranked teams this season, not much of an improvement from Boise’s current schedule.

by ce'sped azul on Nov 10, 2009 10:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Notre Dame fans...

…are so relieved that they’ve only played two ranked teams…but after this weekend, they’re pretty scared of the unranked teams, too….

I’ve got nothing against Boise State. I loved watching them beat Oklahoma a couple of years ago. I could care less if we scheduled a game with them, either…though it wouldn’t generate the excitement (for me) that a matchup with, say, Texas, USC, Penn State, Ohio State, Miami, or even Notre Dame would.

Essentially, my take is this: if CNS is for it, so am I; if CNS is against it, so am I. I am generally an independent, free-thinking human being…but when it comes to football, I defer to the master.

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by NiceLittleSaturday on Nov 10, 2009 10:47 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

2nd that..

If playing Boise is part of “The Process”, then let it be done. I admire Boise for planning and executing their own process, but unless their process is somehow part of “The Process”, they’ll have to take their process somewhere else.

by yellowhammer on Nov 10, 2009 11:06 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

rec'd and rec'd

welcome to the SEC kiffykins...

by tempebamafan on Nov 11, 2009 9:37 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

they’ll have to take their process somewhere else.

…or be PROCESSED.

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by SugarBowl93 on Nov 11, 2009 1:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

We'd be delighted to play a Top 25 team...

like we do about 4-6 other times a season. The proviso is, they’ll have to join us in Pasadena or New Orleans etc.

Until then, it does not behoove us to make their program strong, nor are we obliged to do so.

"Hollywood made a movie of my life. The film had me proposing to my wife on the football field. I would never misuse a football field that way." -Crazy Legs Hirsch

by Stuck in the Plains on Nov 10, 2009 9:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

And, did they REALLY

just peg Fresno and Nevada as “elite”? I dare say if NDs pitiful defense can destroy Nevada, then the body bags would be out if they played one of our big boys.

"Hollywood made a movie of my life. The film had me proposing to my wife on the football field. I would never misuse a football field that way." -Crazy Legs Hirsch

by Stuck in the Plains on Nov 10, 2009 9:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Do we have to have a recruiting reason...

…to schedule what could be an awesome game? BSU would benefit if they were to win, and they might even benefit from exposure long-term in a loss. But who cares? Like many have commented, we don’t compete with Boise State for recruits or really anything. If Boise State benefits, it has no effect on us. Like with any other game, the only thing that would matter is whether we win or not. And this game would be exciting. Also, it would give Boise State an opportunity to prove themselves. This is a good thing in my view. It gives them a fairer shot at reaching a national championship, because they’d actually have to earn it. It wouldn’t help us as much as, say, Notre Dame, who are almost always overrated, but it would help us enough (beating a highly ranked opponent/getting credit for having the guts to schedule them), and I don’t believe it would cause any harm.

by crimsontsunami on Nov 10, 2009 9:37 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

You do benefit

It’s a nationally televised game, gets you more exposure, you dominate the Football news cycle for two weeks, knock off what everyone says is a bad ass team.

I can’t believe you guys, you really think that does not help recruiting?

I’m surprised.

by MeanBobMean on Nov 11, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

There was a time...

when Alabama and southern football in general were deemed inferior, and they wouldn’t allow us to play in the Rose Bowl. Finally, in the ‘20s, they did. We were ridiculed before the game by practically everybody, but what was the result? Our first of twelve national championships. The beginning of our great tradition. When Notre Dame played for the tie against Michigan State in ’66, and thus stole what should’ve been our third consecutive title, Bear Bryant offered to play Notre Dame and Michigan State after the season to settle the debate as to who was really the best. Nobody thought they would take him up on it, of course, and they didn’t. But what if they had? Notre Dame fans would’ve been proud of their team’s courage, and I personally would respect them infinitely today, regardless of the outcome. But it didn’t benefit them, so they didn’t do it. So my question is: Do we want to be like the establishment of the early 1900s who held us down, assuming us to be inferior? Do we want to be like Notre Dame? I understand we’re not obligated to do it, but scheduling Boise State would be like passing the torch. We’d give them a shot to prove themselves, which is not much to ask. When somebody challenges us, we should answer—maybe not in 2011 when the schedule is already difficult, but soon in the future. We have the opportunity to be champions of the underdog, which we once were until we finally got our shot. And finally, despite what anyone says, this would help recruiting. It’s a marquee game—as long as we win during primetime, we’ll win some recruits over.

by crimsontsunami on Nov 10, 2009 10:31 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

I tend to agree with nearly everything you said,

but the difference is that Bama began to earn their stripes in bowl games, and BSU has every opportunity to do the same, and really, they’ve already started. Let them make it back a few more times, beat a few more highly touted teams, and they will be legitimate to schedule against, and they may well be invited to join a real conference.

That said, if we scheduled them I sure would be pumped up about the game. It’s something I wouldn’t mind seeing, and might actually pull for if it looked like a deal was being worked out. I’m torn on the issue, but you had some great thoughts to consider in there!

I bleed crimson and white...I puke Vol puke orange. RTR

by SugarBowl93 on Nov 11, 2009 1:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

So

You want to end up playing in a Bowl game against BSU with even less upside? Knock them out of BCS contention first week, then play USC or Texas at the end instead of Boise.

by MeanBobMean on Nov 11, 2009 5:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought you'd be

defending lesser Div. 1 teams in the bowls, there, Bob!

I wasn’t necessarily saying I wanted Bama to play them in a bowl, though it might happen. I think they need to earn their way there a few more times and defeat a few more legitimate teams before anyone will completely take them seriously. They are currently dangerous, to be sure, but it’s not exactly like the Vols putting UCLA on their schedule, or us scheduling FSU or Penn State. Our AD can’t control who our bowl games are played against (no offense, but Utah comes to mind – and obviously they deserved to be there, but they’re not who we would have picked), but we can control our regular season. Right now they don’t offer much of an upside.

My point was really that Bama worked its way into the national scene by winning bowl games it wasn’t supposed to win. I think Boise could do the same thing, but they probably won’t be able to do it by scheduling huge teams they can upset anymore – the ADs are too smart for that. They’ll have to do it by scheduling weaker, but respectable opponents who are also looking for national exposure, which Boise’s name would give them – maybe not TV time, but the talking heads would at least take a little notice just because of Boise’s name right now.

I bleed crimson and white...I puke Vol puke orange. RTR

by SugarBowl93 on Nov 11, 2009 7:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

And I should say,

DECISIVELY winning those bowl games – against OK it was a lot of smoke and mirrors. That can only take a team so far. Show you can consistently win games, and that’s when the respect will come.

I bleed crimson and white...I puke Vol puke orange. RTR

by SugarBowl93 on Nov 11, 2009 7:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i disagree that it was smoke and mirrors

BSU had OU beat until they threw a pick 6 and gave up another long drive inside the final 2 minutes. BSU was up 28 to 10 with a little over 15 minutes to play. once BSU was down by 7 with 1 minute to go is when they pulled out the trick plays. i think the issue with that game is that the opponent was OU, who clearly just sucks giant donkey balls when it comes to playing in big games (it’s amazing that we dropped both games we played against em earlier this decade, we shoulda won them both). the box score for the game can be found here : http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=270010201

welcome to the SEC kiffykins...

by tempebamafan on Nov 11, 2009 9:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I completely agree..

Give Boise State credit. They were the better team. Whenever a big name gets upset, the national media starts making excuses for them, but really the team that wins is the one that should’ve won. That’s all there is to it.

by crimsontsunami on Nov 11, 2009 9:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

They were better.

Then again, better teams don’t throw interceptions in the waning moments of a clutch game.

/Peterson and LSU screwed by refs can start now.

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by Stuck in the Plains on Nov 12, 2009 5:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I do

Defend the little guys right to play.

But I’m talking about the Alabama argument in here. The perspective of many in here is “not enough upside.”

To that I say: Knock them out early, don’t have to play them in a bowl so you get early creds and exposure and a better bowl game later. Beat them on a nothing news week and you get national exposure, back to back games against perennial top twenty teams . . .

I mean, from my perspective the upside is enormous. Sure, you’re Alabama, but they doesn’t mean you can’t get an even better reputation and cement more recruits by bringing them to games where you dismantle a ranked team and can say “Come play with the big boys.”

by MeanBobMean on Nov 13, 2009 9:48 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Also

Alabama did get lots of cred by winning big bowls, but it also got cred by winning repeatedly, as BSU has done. Time to put their mettle ot the test, and it’s a huge upside for y’all.

by MeanBobMean on Nov 13, 2009 9:49 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Date w/Boise St.

crimsontsunami….You have some points, albeit philosophical in nature, I still agree with your points in principle….However, I believe everyone has to earn their stripes, so to speak. So why doesn’t Boise try to land some good mid-level teams? Cincy, So. Florida, TCU, etc. I like what Saban is doing—we’ll land FAR MORE recruits playing Penn St, Notre Dame, USC and others in prime time than ANY game with Boise. We played two highly ranked (at least at the time) ACC schools in the last two years, and have landed some big recruits from that area. Coach Bryant was the same….Play USC, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Penn St and others during the regular season. When you’re a powerhouse school, you should be playing a powerhouse schedule. However, if Saban wanted to make a really powerful statement, take the 2011 game and STILL play Penn St.

by runninrebel88 on Nov 11, 2009 12:14 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

No benefit in playing

Boise State for us. We play in a tough conference. Winning the SEC is our first goal, so playing too many tough out of conference games only hurts this goal. Sorry, Boise State, but no coach in his right mind is going to put satisfying the fans ahead of doing what’s best for his team. Playing Virginia Tech in Atlanta benefits recruiting. Playing Penn State does the same. Even if we picked up Boise State as our top OOC game, what benefit would we see in recruiting? They take two and three star guys who are under the radar and they develop them. That’s a testament to their system and coaching staff.

The thing is, they play an extremely easy schedule. They basically have nine or ten easy games every year. They can put all of their energy and focus into preparing for one or two opponents (like Oregon or Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl). They beat Oklahoma, but they weren’t better than Oklahoma. If they want more respect they should join a better conference or schedule more games against teams like Utah and TCU. They should also schedule a game against a big time team, such as Oregon. We already have Penn State on the schedule, not to mention our SEC schedule. Boise State should join the Pac-10. If they do that, they’ll be lucky to win seven games a year because it’s not about getting up once or twice, it’s about surviving in a tougher conference as the chinks accumulate.

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by Bamagrad on Nov 11, 2009 2:05 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

PAC 10...

Won’t take them. Out of their league academically as the schools in that conference are research institutions. Better bet is to sharpen knives for a chance to enter the MWC.

"Hollywood made a movie of my life. The film had me proposing to my wife on the football field. I would never misuse a football field that way." -Crazy Legs Hirsch

by Stuck in the Plains on Nov 11, 2009 12:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed there's very limited upside for us

but what the hell. let’s play em @ the DeathStar in dallas to open up a season, i kinda like what crimson tsunami said. we did have to go through the same shit as bsu is going through now (but we played better teams then compared to who they’re playing now) i think if there’s one mid major team who deserves some credibility it’s bsu and utah really, they’re 3-0 in BCS games and bsu has the most wins this decade of any d1-a team. to be fair, the onus is on them to make noise and get it done when it comes to strengthening their regular season schedules, but it looks like that is what they are doing. now they just need a couple programs to man up and take their offer. i’d be kinda proud if it was us…. (i’d still be WAAAAYYYY more excited to see us schedule a game vs USC, ND, Michigan, Miami, or Tejas though)

welcome to the SEC kiffykins...

by tempebamafan on Nov 11, 2009 9:44 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

nationally televised games
You do benefit It’s a nationally televised game, gets you more exposure, you dominate the Football news cycle for two weeks, knock off what everyone says is a bad ass team.

I can’t believe you guys, you really think that does not help recruiting?

I’m surprised.

2 Points
-We play a nationally televised game almost every week. That is really nothing new.
-Besides the Orgeon Punch in the opening game, I don’t remember Oregon vs Boise St. being a super hyped up game.

I don’t see the benefit in playing the game, but would not be against it. Also, all the teams named that play with green jerseys on green turf…. very few if any have green jerseys, helmets and pants. Boise has ALL BLUE. If you are a QB at night up there I would imagine it is hard to spot the safeties.

by ramjam on Nov 11, 2009 4:34 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

And

Their green doesn’t always match perfectly. Boise’s blue is spot on….. it’s like they used photoshop to match it up just right.

by ramjam on Nov 11, 2009 4:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It was hypd

And if you guys play Florida International that week you won’t get national TV, and you won’t get squat in terms of exposure.

by MeanBobMean on Nov 11, 2009 5:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

FWIW...

…I"m also not opposed to playing Boise…

…but most of the hype I remember was something to the tune of, “If Boise wins this game, they’re in the driver’s seat for a BCS bowl.” People weren’t going to start talking about Oregon for real until they faced USC.

by Nico2.0 on Nov 11, 2009 5:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well

Yes, there was that. But it was also hyped for being such an important gakme to both teams so early on. It was the first big game.

Alabama versus Boise, with the Tide going next week to Penn State?

Man I think you guys would get so much press you’d all be sweating ink and eating on funny paper tablecloths.

Tell you what, win or lose I wish my team was doing it, that’s tons of exposure and in a tight recruting year that might make a heck of a difference.

“Well, at Alabama, we play as many big games as is possible, we don’t shy away form anyone, you won’t find 4 cupcakes and an SEC excuse here . . .”

Tennessee and Florida won’t be peddling that talk.

by MeanBobMean on Nov 13, 2009 9:57 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think you're undervaluing

the bumps and bruises that accumulate from tough games. No team, not Alabama, not USC, not Utah, not Texas, no team, can afford to play more than seven quality opponents. By quality, I mean teams that win at least six or seven games.

MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--

BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.

by Bamagrad on Nov 12, 2009 1:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

LSU played...

eight such teams during their 2007 national championship regular season, and Florida played nine in their 2006 regular season. That’s all I had time to look up, but it’s proof that some teams can afford to schedule more than seven quality opponents.

by crimsontsunami on Nov 12, 2009 4:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

And LSU lost 2 in '07, UF lost 1 (and should have lost to USC)

Still sees no reason to schedule another bruiser.

"Hollywood made a movie of my life. The film had me proposing to my wife on the football field. I would never misuse a football field that way." -Crazy Legs Hirsch

by Stuck in the Plains on Nov 12, 2009 5:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I was arguing against the idea...

that no team can afford to play more than seven quality opponents in the regular season. Obviously, they can. These teams won the national championship under those circumstances. But if you want an example of an undefeated team who did it, here’s another one: 14-0 Ohio State won the national championship in 2002 after playing nine quality opponents during their regular season.

by crimsontsunami on Nov 12, 2009 7:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps afford is a bad word choice

I was trying to argue what Stuck in the Plains argued. It really isn’t worth it since our first goal is to win the conference. That’s my opinion, though. If I were playing a video game, I’d try to play a ranked team every week.

MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--

BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.

by Bamagrad on Nov 13, 2009 12:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

True

It doesn’t add to your conference schedule.

by MeanBobMean on Nov 13, 2009 12:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I understand your overall position...

For me, the main flaw of the Boise State idea is we can get to the SEC championship and, thus, the national championship without scheduling them at all. But we all seem to be in favor of the Penn State games, which do not help us in our goal of winning the conference or the national title, either. (And again, all of the national championship winners in the above posts also won their conferences, too, of course.) So the main issues seem to be: (1) Can we win SEC and national titles while scheduling Boise State? My answer: although it will be one game tougher, of course we can. (2) Will it help recruiting? Yes. We will get mega hype from the media. This is not like Oregon-BSU; it’s Alabama-BSU. And let’s say we schedule a creampuff in what could’ve been Boise State’s slot. We get what may amount to a relative rest day, but, on the other hand, zero recruits. (3) Will it, like the Penn State game, be fun for our players and our fans? Absolutely.

Even if we schedule Boise State and Penn State in 2011, we’re most likely going to play a few non-quality SEC teams and definitely two OOC creampuffs to compensate for the extra out-of-conference challenge. No doubt about it – we can handle that.

So, for me, there are no risks besides one more challenge, which I believe we will conquer. And plenty of benefits: recruiting, fun, another satisfying win.

by crimsontsunami on Nov 14, 2009 11:23 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You could

Win it all by not playing, out of the SEC, anyone tough.

But who wants to?

by MeanBobMean on Nov 16, 2009 5:24 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed, it is a rough road to hoe

But USC does it.

And you guys have the depth to do it, and if you set the tone for how you get the top ranking, others will be forced to follow suit because the computers lean heavy on strength of schedule and more and more voters od as well.

by MeanBobMean on Nov 13, 2009 9:51 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't totally disagree with your proposition (if at all)...

…but USC can afford to do it ‘cause they play in the Pac-10. It’s simply more physical football in the SEC. If it’s needed, I’ll elaborate by picking some 2008 bottom-feeders. Whom would you have rather played last season, Washington and Washington State…or Mississippi State and South Carolina? Anyone who says the latter is full of poo-poo….

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Nov 15, 2009 2:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

South Carolina is a tough team

But Miss State this year likely compares favorably with UW. While Wazzu has been terrible for some time, they had a fine program a few years back, as did MSU.

by MeanBobMean on Nov 16, 2009 5:23 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Y'all

Thanks for the talk, it’s great to see informed fans perspective and hear so many considerate and objective view points.

Y’all are great fans and a pure joy to associate with, thanks.

by MeanBobMean on Nov 13, 2009 9:59 AM CST reply actions   0 recs


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