Good article RE: Bowl system is the fairest way of crowning a NC
Read all about it here.
Excerpts:
The fairness index is much higher in college football (97.2 percent) than in the NFL (91.6). The higher level of fairness for college ball was true before the BCS, but is even more true today. Gnash your teeth all you want, but the one thing an NCAA football playoff would not be is fair. By our estimate, it would be about 5 percentage points less fair. Translation: the odds of the best team winning the championship would be 5 percentage points lower.
and...
Consider the problem of "playoff creep." As you increase the number of teams in the playoffs, you increase the likelihood that the best team will not win, since they will face more chances to be upset by an inferior team. Most plans for a college football playoff imagine a small number of qualifying teams, maybe four, maybe eight. That way the regular season would still matter to a great degree, and the top teams would not have to face as many playoff games, pivotal injuries, and possible upsets. Realistically, it is unlikely that the bracket would remain small. History says so. Look at the NCAA I-AA (now FCS) football playoffs. Look at the bloated NCAA basketball playoffs. Look at the NBA and NHL mentioned above. Over the decades, they all suffered playoff creep so severe that the regular season is now little more than a pre-season.
or even better, read the whole thing for an articulate voice as to why the current system is great the way it is, and we should not move to any kind of playoff system.
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Good read...
…thanks for sharing…I’ll be ready to discuss it by March or June….
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Nov 17, 2009 2:51 PM CST reply actions
ahhh..
the offseason…the arguments we have around here are priceless..
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aren't they?
that shit cracks me up too, especially the ones we were having with like a month to go…they go heated, but only went in circles.
Everybody...
…wants to believe what they want to believe….
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Nov 18, 2009 4:31 PM CST up reply actions
The only problem is
that the fairness index only looks at records and not quality opposition. Granted in most seasons it’s easy to tell the difference between an undefeated Bama, Florida, LSU and, say, Boise State, however it’s not always that easy. In 2007 a two loss LSU won. Can we say that 10-2 Georgia, 11-2 Oklahoma, 11-2 VaTech, etc. were not better than LSU? It would be hard to make that case as (to my knowledge) none of them played each other. And we won’t even get into 2004 Auburn. The point being, that for the fairness index to work, as they have it, it needs to take into account more than just records – was it fair that LSU won in 2007. Well, I think so, but there are a ton of other teams out there with the same record that might beg to differ.
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Also, is it fair that TCU has absolutely no chance of going to the NC game this year? There is usually a good argument in terms of SOS, but is it really undeniable that Texas has more quality wins than TCU this year, given the sorry state of affairs in the Big 12 right now?
Also, I feel no need to “protect” good teams from the possibility of an upset. There’s probably not any perfect way of determining which team is better. But having them play each other seems like a better method than relying on the same voters who magically moved USC up over Oregon last week.
fair is subjective
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dumb
The fairness index might compare favorably in professional sports but definitely not college football.
“The Fairness Index measures the average ratio of the champion’s regular season record to its team with the best regular season record”
This might make sense for the NFL, but in college sports where several conferences engage in competition worlds above other conferences week in and out, just looking at Ws and Ls is not fair. If “RealClearSports” wishes to engage in real statistical analysis publish some scholarly material/regression analysis instead of some home spun model that attempts to grasp “fairness”.
I honestly thought this was satire until I got about halfway through it.
“Fairness index”? Really? Do these people know anything about college football?
I'm wrong all the time.
You must be busy...
…I was expecting this response yesterday….
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Nov 18, 2009 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
Well, the primary issue is that in the NFL you have a HUGE overlap, so you could probably “fairly” get away with a 4 team playoff to determine the “best” team.
In college football, though, there’s almost no overlap so “fairness” absent a playoff is kind of a joke. Especially if your formula doesn’t account for # of teams with comparable winning percentages who don’t get a chance to play for the title.
Anyone, point is, comparisons between the NFL and the NCAA are silly because the two leagues are so vastly different.
I'm wrong all the time.
by PeteHoliday on Nov 18, 2009 10:17 PM CST up reply actions
I agree...
…the NFL, for instance, sucks…while college football is teh awesomest….
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Nov 19, 2009 3:43 PM CST up reply actions
I read this article a few days ago
And it made me think a bit. I’ll probably do some more writing in this off-season, but here’s the general gist of my thoughts of the argument that playoffs aren’t fair:
Anyone who suggests that is a dumbass.
There’s really nothing more fair than “the two teams played. One won. That means they are better, or were better when it mattered most.” Wins and Losses are just something that crybabies bitch and moan about to get their voices heard because they don’t have the intelligence to conjure anything substantial to set them apart from others.
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Just fiigured out the prob...
Economists…
Their whole ceteris paribus nonsense and tarot card reading just intruded into football….things aren’t equal, and you can’t hold “constants” while changing one “variable” (e.g., amateur v. professional leagues) to determine that the BCS is the “fairest”.
“Economics is a useful tool for providing employment to economists” -Galbraith.
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by Stuck in the Plains on Nov 25, 2009 4:10 PM CST reply actions

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