Lawyer for AU student, Jenkins, that Eric Smith assaulted on Finebaum
This has been an interesting Finebaum show. This lawyer is on there talking about the Eric Smith assault. According to her several AU football players got confrontational with some other students at this party. They reportedly knocked drinks out of Jenkins's hands. Jenkins then went outside to make a phone call when Smith rushed him and knocked him out from behind. From her description, the kid was hurt pretty bad. His head required 17 stitches, and he suffered a severe concussion. This all happened right in front of 4 Auburn police officers. Anyway, according to the lawyer Eric Smith was granted youthful offender status and the case was sealed. But of course he is still at Auburn, playing football, and didn't miss a game.
Now here's where it gets interesting. According to the lawyer, this isn't the first time an Auburn football player has assaulted someone. Furthermore there is a group of players who call themselves the "Swag Crew" who exhibit gang like tendencies and have been intimidating students.
Of course the barners have been calling in and saying that the lawyer is on the take for Alabama, assassinating the character of Jenkins for being at a party and having a drink in his hands, and all kinds of other ridiculousness.
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Great golly gosh, someone imbibed alcohol!! they got what they deserved!!
Offense sells tickets. Defense wins games. - Paul W. "Bear" Bryant
by TheRedTideConsumes on Nov 17, 2009 5:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Everybody is on the take with that bunch of idiots. Really gets old.
"Hell, no! A tie is like kissing your sister!"
by LifelongBammer on Nov 17, 2009 6:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Of course the barners have been calling in and saying that the lawyer is on the take for Alabama
Auburn fans=

"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
by Bens4vcobra on Nov 18, 2009 8:50 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
If you are are going to post something, at least get your facts straight.
Eric smith was dismissed from the team for a short period after the incident and was given a chance to earn his way back on the team. He did in fact miss 1 game for sure (I think it was actually 2 games).
by Jumpn_JackFlash on Nov 18, 2009 9:15 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
so what do you do to “earn your way back” after rushing someone from behind and knocking the shit out of them, giving them a concussion and requiring 17 stitches.
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
by Zoltar on Nov 18, 2009 10:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
oh, and kicking them as they lie in a pool of blood. don’t forget that little factoid. Leave it to Chizik to make Lane Kiffin look like a strict disciplinarian.
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
by Zoltar on Nov 18, 2009 10:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
All you know is what you heard on Slimebaum. And since we all know that everything on the Slimebaum show is spot on rock solid journalism, it must be true.
You hate Auburn. I get it. It is a rivalry. You take shots every chance you get. But since you felt the need to post something on the subject, all I ask is that you get all of your facts straight.
According to every credible media source I have seen, the only thing that can be proven as fact is that police officers arrived on the seen and saw Eric Smith punch Jenkins in the back of the head. You have no proof that any one was kicking Jenkins while he was lying in a pool of blood. That is the word of Jenkins and his friends against the word of Eric Smith and his friends. I do not claim to know who is being truthful and who is not. I will let the courts decide before I pass judgment on the subject, since we are all supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.
But whatever. We should never let facts get in the way of posting hate garbage about our bitter rival, right?
And regarding your last comment. You can give the holier than thou crap a rest. There are players of questionable character on every team in this country, including your precious Bama.
by Jumpn_JackFlash on Nov 18, 2009 10:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I do not claim to know who is being truthful and who is not.
So the point that you’re trying to make is that you have no idea whether what he posted is accurate or not. So, for all you know, his facts are straight, and you just don’t like them?
Got it.
I'm wrong all the time.
by PeteHoliday on Nov 18, 2009 10:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He was wrong in saying Eric Smith never missed a game because of the incident.
Got it, Petey?
by Jumpn_JackFlash on Nov 18, 2009 11:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, I missed that minor detail in your stream of bullshit about you not knowing what happened that night.
I'm wrong all the time.
by PeteHoliday on Nov 18, 2009 11:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Innocent until proven guilty. You are right, Petey. That really is some profound bullshit.
by Jumpn_JackFlash on Nov 18, 2009 11:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm . . . “guilty” . . . I remember hearing that word somewhere.
Oooh. That’s right. Smith pled guilty to the assault. That’s where it was.
What were we talking about again?
I'm wrong all the time.
by PeteHoliday on Nov 18, 2009 2:21 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
BOOM! HEADSHOT!
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
by Zoltar on Nov 18, 2009 2:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The criminal part of the case is over. It is a civil matter now. I would think someone who claims to have gone to law school would know that.
by Jumpn_JackFlash on Nov 18, 2009 2:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The presumption of innocence is a criminal concept and one that applies to legal guilt, not actual guilt. Since Smith pled guilty, that presumption no longer applies. He is legally guilty of the assault, and likely allocuted to the entire facts of the evening before he was sentenced.
To that end, Finebaum would be an absolute fool to go on such a popular show and make factual claims for which he has no evidentiary support, as he’d be diving head-first into a defamation suit that could cost him millions. This is not something of which he is unaware.
Liability is different from guilt. Whether or not Smith is liable for Jenkins’ injuries is a different matter entirely from whether or not the things he’s alleged to have done actually happened.
Not that this will make any difference to you, you’ll go on defending the guy and hiding behind legal principles that you don’t understand to try to weasel away from having to admit that the sum total of a guy’s punishment for sneaking up behind someone and beating the hell out of them was a one game suspension.
It’s cool. We understand. You’re a true Auburn Man.
I'm wrong all the time.
by PeteHoliday on Nov 18, 2009 2:59 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
This whole argument started when Zoltar said Smith didn’t miss a game for his actions, which was not true.
I have repeatedly said I do not condone Smiths actions. I have also said if all of the allegations are proven true then Smith should be immediately kicked off the team. But you sure are going out of your way to defend Zoltar on this subject, even though there are factual errors and rumors littering his fan post and supporting comments, with very few actual proven facts.
I am no idiot but I do not claim to know everything. I’m an M.D. (specialty in orthopedics and orthopedic surgery, upper extremity primary focus), not an attorney so I won’t argue with you on the legal differences of liability and guilty. But by all means, continue to insult my intelligence all you want since that and snide remarks are what you do best.
Have a nice day Petey.
by Jumpn_JackFlash on Nov 18, 2009 3:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The suspension issue was incorrect, corrected by you, and not thereafter disputed. You keep returning to it because it’s the last thing you said in this thread that’s even remotely defensible.
Smith pled guilty to third degree assault. There are witnesses and, apparently, video to support the claim that he attacked the guy from behind. This wasn’t Fightin’ In Da Club. This was a vicious cheap-shot on a defenseless guy and you’re sitting here trying to make excuses for defending him by saying things like “Well, none of us were there so who knows what happened!”
You claim that you’d want him kicked off the team if the “all of the allegations are proven true”, but I’m curious . . . what more needs to be proved? He pled guilty to attacking the guy. What more proof do you want?
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As for insulting your intelligence . . . let’s be very clear about what went on here. You pulled out your “I’ve Seen Law & Order Twice” understanding of our legal system and then arrogantly assumed there must not be any more to the situation than some aphorism you picked up somewhere and then insinuated that I either didn’t understand the law or that I’ve lied about my degree.
In response, I simply stated a fact: that you don’t know what you’re talking about. This isn’t an insult. I don’t think there’s any reason you should know any of this stuff just like you have no reason to believe that I know a damn thing about medicine (I don’t).
But I certainly expect that if I were to start talking shit about how you “claim” to have gone to Med School while simultaneously spouting trite bullshit I got from watching a few episodes of E.R., that you’d probably take issue with that.
Short version of the above: Quit whining. Nobody is insulting your intelligence. You just happen to be wrong. Playing the victim isn’t going to get you anywhere.
I'm wrong all the time.
by PeteHoliday on Nov 18, 2009 5:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it was a minor detail, you were acting like I misrepresented the essence of the issue.
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
by Zoltar on Nov 18, 2009 5:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
because given the circumstances, a 1 game suspension is not much better than nothing. Lane Kiffin booted 2 players off the team for robbing some goofballs, but Smith executes a sneak attack on a defenseless person, putting them in the hospital, and he gets a slap on the wrist. What a JOKE!
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
by Zoltar on Nov 18, 2009 5:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim
by Thomas Walker Esq on Nov 18, 2009 3:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
fail. let's try it again...
I would not question Pete’s intellectual fortitude regarding matters of the law. If he can successfully defend those thugs at UT (last week’s troll-happy thread), the word evisceration doesn’t even adequately describe what he can do to you and your pitiful stance taken here
"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim
by Thomas Walker Esq on Nov 18, 2009 3:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Finebaum said he saw a video of the incident
and the description he gave was pretty horrible, including Eric Smith kicking the guy. Finebaum does stir the pot, but I have a hard time believing that he just made that up. And for the recrod, it’s a FACT that the guy had about 17 stitches to fix the gash created by Smith. Head wounds bleed pretty profusely, so I think it’s pretty damn safe to say that Eric Smith was kicking him while he laid in a pool of blood.
“But whatever. We should never let facts get in the way of posting hate garbage about our bitter rival, right?”
haha. that’s fucking ridiculous. It is a FACT that Eric Smith brutally assaulted someone and he got a slap on the wrist from Chizik.
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
by Zoltar on Nov 18, 2009 11:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So where is the mysterious video that no one other than Slimebaum has seen? I would love to see it. If it is true and there is video evidence of this, I would prefer to see Smith kicked off the team. But neither you nor I know what truly happened that night. Right now it is still a bunch of he said this and he said that nonsense that occurred while alcohol was involved. And until all the actual facts are made public (assuming they ever will be), you can not prove what you say is fact. It is just unsubstantiated rumor.
I will tell you a couple of things that I find fucking hilarious. One, you actually listen to Slimebaum. Only the lowest common denominator of both fan bases listens to that show. Two, you actually consider Slimebaum a credible news source.
by Jumpn_JackFlash on Nov 18, 2009 12:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wow, you really take homerism to a whole other level. There is a preponderance of evidence showing that Eric Smith came up on this kid from behind and knocked the shit out of him.
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
by Zoltar on Nov 18, 2009 12:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t deny that. Show me where I did. There are several credible media reports that confirm that. But what we don’t know are many of the actual facts leading up to that moment, which you seem to think you do. Maybe Smith started the fight. Maybe Jenkins started the fight. I don’t know and you don’t know. That is not homer-ism for me to say that.
by Jumpn_JackFlash on Nov 18, 2009 1:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
what does it matter who started the fight? Eric Smith was clearly not defending himself. He snuck up on the kid and hit him from behind. Whether it was retaliation for something else shouldn’t really matter.
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
by Zoltar on Nov 18, 2009 2:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You are a idiot. Showing your class backing a player who nearly killed a guy and attacted him from behind.
If he plead guilty…Guess what he f***ing did it. He is a thug and did a classless act and you are just showing your stupid barn homerism saying:
I have repeatedly said I do not condone Smiths actions. I have also said if all of the allegations are proven true then Smith should be immediately kicked off the team.
Per the article you referenced:
Police say officers were dispatched to the hotel because of a dispute and witnessed Smith strike Jenkins in the back of the head. Smith was arrested on the scene for disorderly conduct, a charge that was upgraded to third-degree assault.
But keep defending him. If someone hit me from behind and got off cause of youthful offender status, i would sue his a** off.
Classless barner go home.
36-0
"If wanting to win is a fault, as some of my critics seem to insist, then I plead guilty. I like to win. I know no other way. It's in my blood."- The Bear
by Bham03UAgrad on Nov 18, 2009 4:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I have it on good authority that he was actually suspended because he didn’t chop block the guy.
I'm wrong all the time.
by PeteHoliday on Nov 18, 2009 10:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think that it is possible for Pete to flame on his own blog
"Hell, no! A tie is like kissing your sister!"
by LifelongBammer on Nov 19, 2009 8:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He plead guilty, therefore he is guilty legally and factually
Why don’t you stop embarrasing yourself and go back home
"Hell, no! A tie is like kissing your sister!"
by LifelongBammer on Nov 19, 2009 8:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Operation Red Dog......
Your temper brings dishonor to my happy mooshu palace.
by mulletover on Nov 18, 2009 10:33 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Lawsuit sez as follows:
Crew & Howell, P.C.
The suit is being filed in U.S. District Court in Montgomery.
Jenkins, a fifth-year engineering student, has "suffered and continues to suffer grievous and permanent injury," according to the suit, including classic Post-Concussion Syndrome, which, along with the injuries, has "significantly impaired his ability to execute his education." He also has substantial "hospital, diagnostic and medical bills," according to the lawsuit.
The lawsuit says Jenkins and a friend were attending a function at the Lexington Hotel on Aug. 21 when he was approached by "two presently unnamed Auburn football players in a provocative and belligerent manner." Jenkins’ friend stepped between the players and said: "We don’t want any trouble," according to the lawsuit.
It goes on to state that Jenkins’ friend was then punched by one of the players and rendered unconscious. Smith "then approached (Jenkins) in a hostile and aggressive manner and slapped a drink from his hand," the lawsuit claims.
Smith was then joined by his "cohorts" and all three began to "pummel Jenkins with hands and fists about his face and body." Jenkins was able to escape, fleeing down an outside stairway toward the front of the hotel, the suit claims.
While trying to make a phone call with his back facing the main entrance of the hotel, Jenkins went "limp immediately," as he was punched in the back of the head by Smith in front of police officers who were called to the scene, according to the lawsuit.
"Smith then kicked (Jenkins), turned away from the officers and casually walked away as if nothing happened, leaving Jenkins unconscious in a pool of blood," the lawsuit says.
Smith was arrested and charged with disorderly conduct. He pled guilty and was granted youthful offender status, which effectively seals the case to the public.
marycontrary
by adeleswims on Nov 18, 2009 7:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
And the Police sez
Police say officers were dispatched to the hotel because of a dispute and witnessed Smith strike Jenkins in the back of the head. Smith was arrested on the scene for disorderly conduct, a charge that was upgraded to third-degree assault.
marycontrary
by adeleswims on Nov 18, 2009 8:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Jenkins's lawyer sez:
Crew said she believes she knows the identities of the other players involved.
“We are continuing to interview witnesses and the discovery process will proceed,” she said. “There absolutely is a possibility that defendants will be added.”
The lawsuit says Jenkins was attending a function at the Lexington Hotel when approached by two unidentified Auburn football players who acted in a “provocative and belligerent manner.” Jenkins’ friend, who was also unnamed, stepped between him and the players and stated, “We don’t want any trouble,” according to the lawsuit.
Jenkins contends his friend was then immediately punched by one of the players and rendered unconscious. Smith then approached Jenkins in a “hostile and aggressive manner” and slapped a drink from his hand, the lawsuit says.
Smith, with the aid of teammates, “began to pummel Plaintiff Jenkins with hands and fists about his face and body,” the lawsuit claims. “Though Plaintiff attempted to defend himself, he was knocked to the floor where Defendant Smith and his cohorts continued to punch and kick him.”
Jenkins says he escaped and fled down the outside stairway to the front of the hotel. While outside, Jenkins claims, Smith ran toward him and punched him in the back of his head with four Auburn city police officers standing nearby.
“Defendant Smith then kicked the Plaintiff, turned away from the off icers, and casually walked away as if nothing had happened, leaving Jenkins unconscious in a pool of blood,” the lawsuit states.
marycontrary
by adeleswims on Nov 18, 2009 8:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

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