your comments may have been honest, but they were crass and rubbed salt in the wound. i really dont understand why any of our regulars (a few exceptions withstanding) think that any of the folks on the other sec blogs give a #%@* about what we think about their current situations.
PLEASE let us take the high road in the coming weeks and refrain from acting like the type of fans we are accused of being, and focus on fridays task at hand: another auburn beat-down of epic proportion, this time at Jordan-Hare.
LittleSis in the comments
I'm singling this out because it's something a lot of you need to hear (especially this week). The other SBN SEC blogs are communities of fans representing that particular team and fanbase, just like RBR is for Alabama fans. As much as we don't like it when Barners or Corndogs come over here to stir things up, they don't appreciate it when you do the same. Be respectful people, even if you think they are wrong and/or stupid. It's their place, leave it to them.
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So what you're saying..
is when we are slamming their faces into the curb (figurativley speaking, of course), not to kick them in the gonads as well?
not quite. feel free to abuse them as the situation warrants.
just don’t be a dick about it.
Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.
Well tat just goes against everything teh int3rw3bz stands for!
unfiltered, highly caustic, bravado!!
I’ll be a paper Tider, and you can’t stop me!
Offense sells tickets. Defense wins games. - Paul W. "Bear" Bryant
by TheRedTideConsumes on Nov 23, 2009 9:35 AM CST reply actions
But
can we still make fun of them here??
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
of course...
….seriously, if y’all want to point out how stupid someone else is, do it here and we can all have a good laugh without being asshole trolls.
Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.
Can you believe how stupid that Todd guy is? His fans actually like watching him make a fool of himself every week eating that…
Oh, you meant other teams’ fans…oops…
This.
It is important to find someone who allows you to fulfill your dreams. It is luck if that person finds you, too - Isaiah Zagar
by BamaReturns07 on Nov 23, 2009 11:56 AM CST up reply actions
richard over at ATVS
had enough of a problem with this that he had to start a new policy for the site after the lsu game. and ATVS is one of the best SEC sites out there, so passing it off as “corn dog paranoia” or whatnot is severely misplaced.
basically if you care about the exchange of ideas doing it the week prior to the game is a much better way of doing it. and posting right after a painful loss, in the game thread itself, without any kind of antecedent posting is simply not cool. it does nothing but piss people off and breed enmity twoard us.
besides, as much as anyone might want to take part in the feeding frenzy like ensued at the end of the ole miss/lsu game there’s not a hell of a lot of constructive commentary going on by anyone. it’s better to step back and behold the anarchy in all it’s glory and wait a day or two to sort out what the hell happened from the folks involved.
Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.
In fact, to elaborate on Kleph's point
I would go so far as to NOT go into another team’s blog and post after we beat them. I have done this, in a respectful manner, but I think ANY Bama fan doing this with any intentions, being good or bad, is going to automatically make it a defensive situation. I would just prefer to stay away for a while.
We do have members who troll the hell out of other blogs stirring up trouble, and I think if you are being a dick about things on other boards, you should lose your privileges here as well. I have lived and learned, and had my dick moments on other boards, but at the end of the day it is immature and not needed.
It is important to find someone who allows you to fulfill your dreams. It is luck if that person finds you, too - Isaiah Zagar
by BamaReturns07 on Nov 23, 2009 11:58 AM CST up reply actions
Amen x 1,000
There are lots of great SBN blogs out there, and there’s no shame in joining or commenting on most of them, but even the most reasonable of fans of our rivals don’t give a damn how stupid we think their coach is, how bad we think their defense is, or anything else. They either already know and don’t need to be reminded or aren’t going to believe you anyway, you stupid Bammer.
That’s to say nothing of the other blogs out there at which it’s pointless to even comment. They exist to create an echo chamber for themselves and as a ‘Bama fan, your comments will be mocked and dismissed no matter how observant or accurate they are (and god help you if there’s anything even slightly off-center). If you’re not going to just to trumpet the party line, it’s just a waste of time and gives them too much enjoyment. No matter how much they taunt and goad and spout ridiculousness and play those standard 3rd grade games (“’bama fans are too chicken to come over here”, etc), everyone is better served by just staying away from the bad side of town.
ATVS and RTT are pretty great blogs, topic and slant aside, and we really ought to be treating their digital living rooms the way we’d want them to treat ours.
There’s plenty of room in the fanposts and fanshots to talk trash, if that’s your thing, no need to go be the rude houseguest, and if they want to defend their school’s honor, they can come over here and do that, so long as they haven’t behaved so childishly as to get banned here (and getting banned is quite an accomplishment given how patient Todd et al. are).
I'm wrong all the time.
This
is the only blog I comment on. I feel like I don’t need to tell opposing fans how great our team is because after we play their team they KNOW. lol
This upcoming season I'm gonna refer to Julio Jones as "The Magic Man" and Trent Richardson as "El Diablo"
by AlabamaTitans2009 on Nov 23, 2009 10:19 AM CST reply actions
It IS a shame though
Ridiculing the other team after a devastating loss (or arrest, coach leaving, etc.) is as much a part of SEC football as winning, drinking and hot cheerleaders.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 10:52 AM CST reply actions
here here!
Rabble Rabble! Auburn is teh gheeeey!
I hate Auburn week is underway. And I’m pretty sure the lamewads at TET made these urgings because of me. Wah wah! If the roles were reversed, they would be much more difficult to deal with, and I highly doubt we would be the crybabies they are.
Roll Tide! Beat the Moccasins?! Mockingbirds?!
There were no urgings made...
…by anyone, but it does piss me off when I see y’all acting like jackasses on other blogs. OTS, Nico, kleph, Pete and myself may be the only ones who actually represent RBR, but let’s face it, y’all are tied to us as members and as fellow fans and it makes us look bad. Ridicule away here if you’d like, but don’t be an asshole on other sites. Pete put it best; “we really ought to be treating their digital living rooms the way we’d want them to treat ours.” If you want an Auburn fan coming into your house and talking shit, then that’s your right. But this is OUR digital living room and we don’t want that around here, so if you stir up shit somewhere else, you won’t be welcome here anymore either.
Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.
You know what...
….that’s my new policy. Any of y’all gets banned at another site, you get banned here for a week as well. Think you didn’t deserve to get banned? Tough shit. Shouldn’t been over there running your mouth in the first place.
Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.
That is an overreaction, in my opinion.
One you’re obviously entitled to make. But you should ban people for misbehavior at this blog, not every blog on sbnation. It’s not your job to police the entire fanbase.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 11:23 AM CST up reply actions
It might not be my job...
….but at this point I could care less if its an overreaction or not. I’m sick of y’all making us look bad to the rest of SBN.
Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.
doesn't mean you should
no one likes a snitch
"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim
by Thomas Walker Esq on Nov 23, 2009 12:38 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Ha
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
You say y'all like I was banned on ATVS
I commented over there, but there was no taunting on my part. I was pulling for LSU and was disappointed with the end of the game like they were. I am just arguing the point that “making us look bad” is subjective.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
as i said above...
the timing has a hell of a lot to do with it.
Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.
Sure it does...
And you better believe that if Bama loses on a last second play to Auburn on Friday that we’ll all be pissed off and some rival fans will come over here to stir things up, and some nasty things may get said. Police your blog and yourself, and let the other mods do the same. No reason to go overboard.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
I think it is a great policy by RBR.
you shouldn’t be running your mouth on the other boards (and by “you”, I don’t literally mean YOU 12NC).
It is important to find someone who allows you to fulfill your dreams. It is luck if that person finds you, too - Isaiah Zagar
by BamaReturns07 on Nov 23, 2009 12:00 PM CST up reply actions
That's your opinion.
And I disagree. “Running your mouth” on blogs here is why they exist. If they don’t want Bammers posting, they should say that in the agreement to join them.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 12:02 PM CST up reply actions
You are missing the point
Trying to have a civil discussion is one thing, but engaging in behavior that projects your intentions as a “troll” is the issue. If they start baiting you, walk away. It’s not that deep.
It is important to find someone who allows you to fulfill your dreams. It is luck if that person finds you, too - Isaiah Zagar
by BamaReturns07 on Nov 23, 2009 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
No, you are missing the point.
Whether or not I am a “troll” is subjective. Leave it up to each individual blog.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
It is being left up to the individual blog
and if they decide you’re a troll, there are consequences here, too. Pretty simple.
I'm wrong all the time.
by PeteHoliday on Nov 23, 2009 12:25 PM CST up reply actions
Simple, yes.
Reasonable? Not in my opinion.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 12:32 PM CST up reply actions
Still haven’t heard any arguments for that opinion.
Many children who show their ass at school will get punished when they come home, too. That’s not unfair, that’s just a way for the parents to communicate with the kids and the school. Showing the kids that they don’t approve of such behavior, and showing the school that they take the school’s rules seriously.
It’s a perfectly reasonable stance.
I'm wrong all the time.
Okay, I swear this is my last comment.
My argument is, and has always been, that in my opinion what is said on other blogs has no automatic (and should have no) bearing on this one, because the “reasons” someone could be banned are subjective and (perhaps sometime) unwarranted. I am not saying that Todd shouldn’t do whatever he wants to, obviously he will. All I am saying is that his decision to ban people for the sole reason that they are banned elsewhere seems to me to be inflexible and unnecessary. But whatever.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
Trust me, I see what you're saying
I just don’t agree at all. If you got banned, you got banned because you pissed off the host of the blog you were at.
Maybe the host shouldn’t have gotten pissed, maybe he was being too sensitive. Whatever. Point is, you pissed that person off, and that is the banning offense. Not the comment itself.
I'm wrong all the time.
Not agreeing
Is not the same as saying that there have been no arguments to the contrary, Pete.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
Pete
You’re kind of a dick yourself, aren’t you?
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 3:52 PM CST up reply actions
Name calling?
It is important to find someone who allows you to fulfill your dreams. It is luck if that person finds you, too - Isaiah Zagar
by BamaReturns07 on Nov 23, 2009 3:53 PM CST up reply actions
When people run out of arguments
They call me an asshole. You should know about that, right? ;-)
I'm wrong all the time.
Ha ha. Yes sir.
It is important to find someone who allows you to fulfill your dreams. It is luck if that person finds you, too - Isaiah Zagar
by BamaReturns07 on Nov 23, 2009 3:54 PM CST up reply actions
Wait, I never called you an asshole, did I?
It is important to find someone who allows you to fulfill your dreams. It is luck if that person finds you, too - Isaiah Zagar
by BamaReturns07 on Nov 23, 2009 3:54 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I would have remembered that
I try to save my name calling for threads about other teams on ROLLBAMAROLL.
It is important to find someone who allows you to fulfill your dreams. It is luck if that person finds you, too - Isaiah Zagar
by BamaReturns07 on Nov 23, 2009 3:56 PM CST up reply actions
Nobody ran out of arguments
You just refuse to acknowledge that they exist.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 3:55 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, they exist
They’re just based on false premises and are, therefore, invalid.
I'm wrong all the time.
What are the false premises?
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 3:56 PM CST up reply actions
For starters, it’s based on the idea that it matters what the other blog’s rules are and whether or not the banning is reasonable.
I'm wrong all the time.
Actually, Todd think this is a true premise.
And if you feel like you’ve been unjustly banned, I will certainly take a look at the offending comments and make a judgement call.
You're wasting your time
Trying to reason with him.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
The context is, though
That the other mods usually ban the deserving only. Also, I would assume you’d be banned until the plea finds you not guilty.
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
Todd made an exception to his rule, that doesn’t mean he agrees with the premise.
I'm wrong all the time.
You're a damned wordsmith.
Think you could heat something up and hammer it out for me by this evening?
Seriously though. You can make anyone’s words say what you want them to say. Impressive sophistry, I must say.
Do you think people have been unjustly banned?
Also, you can email a mod here pleading your case, I’m sure, or ask a fellow fan to get your back. The one time I saw someone unjustly banned — in my opinion — was when a RTT poster responded to a strange agrument by T Kyle over at Dawg Sports. T Kyle admitted that he was quick on the trigger, unbanned the guy, and we all moved on with lessons learned. I’m pretty sure that if it were all a misunderstanding then Todd would either 1) not ban you or 2) lift the ban once the other place does. I could be wrong, though.
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
+1
Although I think some of the folks on the defensive here (but not all) are a little scared because they find themselves trolling a good bit and don’t want any more consequences than they already have.
I'm wrong all the time.
For the record...
…the general response I’ve gotten from the rest of the SEC bloggers is “if we have any real problems we’ll let you know, but for the most part its not a big deal.” That ought to at least tell you no one is looking at this and licking their chops at the chance to get you banned here, but just a nice “glad to know you’ve got our back” sentiment. And if you feel like you’ve been unjustly banned, I will certainly take a look at the offending comments and make a judgement call. But, like I said, don’t take that to mean you can go off and say whatever you want and come back crying all “they just banned me for being a bama fan!”
Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.
If it's not a big deal
then why are we creating these rules?
by HarveyBirdmanAAL on Nov 23, 2009 3:59 PM CST up reply actions
This whole issue
Is trying to assure other members of the community that RBR isn’t as crappy as many of the Alabama fans are representing it. It’s a show of good faith, to others, that RBR supports their actions against other people.
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions
So
Are all the other blogs standing in solidarity with Todd and following the same policy?
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 4:06 PM CST up reply actions
Pretty bad overreaction. There are mods on other sites that ban just because you say something. There’s two mods I know of that have no tolerance for even intellectual posts, if it paints their team in a bad light.
Then don't go over there.
Why do y’all insist on going where you aren’t welcome and expecting to get a warm reception?
Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.
thing is..
i use to go over to RTT and talk with Hooper like every day. We understand each other and would get into some good talks. Then the regulars got involved and all hell broke loose.
Auburna delenda est!
Did you ever get banned?
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 1:33 PM CST up reply actions
Guys this a sports blog COMMUNITY..
why is everyone acting like you need a written invitation to join a discussion about SEC FOOTBALL?
Great Game Hokies! What a battle!
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 11:40 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
This
why is everyone acting like you need a written invitation to join a discussion about SEC FOOTBALL?
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
Nobody is acting like that. What people are acting like is that you shouldn’t be a dick on other SBN blogs.
I'm wrong all the time.
by PeteHoliday on Nov 23, 2009 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
you shouldn’t be a dick on other SBN blogs.
I agree with this. If you are arguing and not being a dick then that is a completely different thing.
Auburna delenda est!
here's is an example...
to register to post on Track Em Tigers, you must agree to the following:
Thanks for joining Track’em Tigers. We appreciate you taking the time to be a part of our online family. We ask that you refrain from using inappropriate language or posting inappropriate images. If your mother wouldn’t approve, then don’t post it.
you agreed to a similar one to post on RBR. and it isn’t unreasonable for todd to ask that members of this site be held to user agreements they enter into with other blogs.
Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.
Sure it is.
Are you going to police all the Bama fans in the entire world on every blog in the world? Of course not. That would be ridiculous. Worry about the RBR community.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
that is exactly the point...
rbr members showing their ass elsewhere reflects badly upon us all.
Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.
I don't get it
Just because I am a member of RBR doesn’t make me your responsibility. I am a member of ATVS, TET, RTT, and other blogs as well. Hell, I joined RTT before I joined here. Does that make my posts reflect badly on them?
My point is that you guys are taking this personally and it MIGHT be clouding your judgment a bit. It does not reflect badly on you if I make myself look bad on another blog, it reflects badly on me. I am not your responsibility. This blog is.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 12:01 PM CST up reply actions
You have the same screenname and username
on the SBN blogs as you do here. This is a sports COMMUNITY: hence, synergy and all that jazz to make it successful. If you aren’t going around being a dick, it doesnt matter.
It is important to find someone who allows you to fulfill your dreams. It is luck if that person finds you, too - Isaiah Zagar
by BamaReturns07 on Nov 23, 2009 12:02 PM CST up reply actions
It SHOULDN'T...
…but it does. Think how many times y’all have disparaged TET for Auburn fans who have acted like dicks over here. They don’t represent TET like y’all don’t represent RBR, but considering we represent Alabama and its fans, we’re all tied together.
Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.
I don't disparage TET for the people who post
If anything, I disparage it for the poor reasoning of some of the people who write for it.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 12:06 PM CST up reply actions
by that logic we shouldn't engage in "hate week" threads for UT and Barn
because it would be unfair and mean of us to disparage the fan bases of our fellow SBnation blogers.
welcome to the SEC kiffykins...
by tempebamafan on Nov 23, 2009 12:18 PM CST up reply actions
That's ridiculous
It’s not about being “Unfair and Mean”. It’s about going into someone’s house and being a douche.
They don’t have to come here to look at all the mean things we say, but they should have to ignore douchieness on a site dedicated to their own team.
I'm in no condition to drive...wait! I shouldn't listen to myself, I'm drunk.
by That Other Dave on Nov 23, 2009 2:33 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
No they shouldn't
’Cause their team sux.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 2:56 PM CST up reply actions
feel free
to say that here all you want.
I'm in no condition to drive...wait! I shouldn't listen to myself, I'm drunk.
by That Other Dave on Nov 23, 2009 2:59 PM CST up reply actions
Go ahead and add that to the detail about getting banned from here if you get banned elsewhere
I think that transparency to people joining would be a good idea.
Great Game Hokies! What a battle!
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
which, if you took a time to look at your user agreement when you registered on any given SB Nation blog
is exactly what you agreed to prior to being given the ability to post. all todd is doing is insisting you honor that agreement to continue to enjoy the right to post on Roll Bama Roll.
Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.
True
However, each blog has its own agreement, and that is as it should be. RBR shouldn’t worry about banninating people who act like jerks on other blogs. For one, you can’t possibly keep up with them all, so it would be applied unevenly (and thus unfairly). Two, some mods are trigger happy. Three, it’s my business what I say and how I say it, not RBR’s.
Again, I am not arguing for being a jerk. But sensitive fans CAN overreact to a reasoned post, and it’s not RBR’s place to say that I can’t post something that I feel adds to the discussion on ATVS or TET or any other blog, except this one.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
To paraphrase Coach Saban..
…you have freedom of choice, but you do not have freedom of consequences. Keep that in mind.
Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.
Wow comparing yourself to Saban now?
you think he was thinking about alabama blogs when he said that . or you think maybe he was thinking of …..u…
Great Game Hokies! What a battle!
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 11:54 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not comparing myself to anyone...
….just pointing out a truth in life. Commenting on SBN blogs is not a right, it’s a privilege. You can say or do anything you want on one, but it doesn’t indemnify you from whatever consequences come from it.
Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.
well, you're no fun are you?
FWIW i aint been trollin… maybe we could have a RBR kangroo court and have our readers decide if our fellow members got out of line? perhaps a little copy and paste of the “objectionable material” cuz, if this is just over minor stuff like "hah hah told “less aint more” was a joke"… then this whole thread is stupid. i mean we should all act like adults and not go start pissing matches in other peoples living rooms, but simply making a point does not constitute trolling.
welcome to the SEC kiffykins...
by tempebamafan on Nov 23, 2009 11:54 AM CST up reply actions
what got into your veggiemite?
Great Game Hokies! What a battle!
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:01 PM CST up reply actions
then it would follow
that these are blogs you should not have an interest in participating in anyway. no?
Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.
1 week ban for finding out the hard way that a rival blog has poor moderators is an overreaction. The ban from the rival blog is enough to learn the lesson. It’s no use adding a 1 week ban here, too.
Discretion is the better part of valor.
I'm wrong all the time.
by PeteHoliday on Nov 23, 2009 11:38 AM CST up reply actions
Todd you are making a mountain out of a molehill.
“I am sick of y’all making us look bad to the rest of SBN” Todd you know and I know that you know, that we are the best blog on SBN. We have the best everything and everyone I have talked to has only said positive things about this blog and how they hope to build theirs with the same foundation of participants and quality participation. IMHO for you to say that everytime an Alabama fan says something you dont agree with that it reflects negatively on you is a bit self centered. Trust me people know a quality blog when they see it, and one individuals remark doesnt make the opinion of our whole team, fans, blog drop off.
Great Game Hokies! What a battle!
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 11:38 AM CST up reply actions
if you disagree...
you are free to point your browser elsewhere.
Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.
or you are free to disagree and not point your browser elsewhere
Great Game Hokies! What a battle!
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
if you disagree with the fact you have the right to troll other SBNation websites
then the decision is likely to be taken out of your hands right quick.
Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.
so if you join another site you are a troll
why not just disable our rights to join other forums? sounds like control issues
Great Game Hokies! What a battle!
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
Disagreeing isn't the problem...
….acting like an asshole towards our colleagues at SBN is. I don’t care how well thought out your arguments against another team may be, you wouldn’t show up at a random LSU fans door to let them know all the way Les Miles is an idiot an expect them to say “You are so right, good sir! Please come in and enjoy my hospitality!” That’s what y’all are doing in digital form and it’s rude as hell.
Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.
I think this discussion is really about two different types of interaction on other SBN sites.
Great Game Hokies! What a battle!
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
You should probably ban me for a week because the Oregon site banned me because I thought that the blount situation reflected poorly on college football.
Just one example of why this type of punishment should be situational.
Great Game Hokies! What a battle!
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 11:43 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Why? Because you decided you wanted to go rub Oregon’s nose in a situation they were already having enough internal conflict about?
I’d support both bans in your situation, subjective or not.
I'm wrong all the time.
by PeteHoliday on Nov 23, 2009 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
because I wanted to discuss a collegefootball issues with fans who have more insight?
Great Game Hokies! What a battle!
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
Apparently you did so with less tact than you should have.
I'm wrong all the time.
by PeteHoliday on Nov 23, 2009 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
apparently you assume that the moderator is ALWAYS right
figures…arent you a lawyer?
Great Game Hokies! What a battle!
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
I dont plan on getting banned so this doesnt affect me.
Great Game Hokies! What a battle!
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
Considering the moderator sets his or her own rules, the moderator WAS right.
There’s not a lot of lawyering to it. You comment on SBN blogs at the pleasure of their moderators.
I'm wrong all the time.
by PeteHoliday on Nov 23, 2009 12:28 PM CST up reply actions
its these kind of assumptions that show the weakness in your policy.
Great Game Hokies! What a battle!
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 11:51 AM CST up reply actions
Wow.
Obviously you guys are unwilling to have a reasoned discussion about this. What is the deal?
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 11:54 AM CST up reply actions
thats what I was wondering this is out of character for the quality blog that we are....were worried about a random fan sayinga random comment on another site and yet this kind of stuff reflects greatly on what a great group think we got going
Great Game Hokies! What a battle!
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:00 PM CST up reply actions
or I am free to stay and disagree kleph ? what are you a nazi?
Great Game Hokies! What a battle!
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 11:55 AM CST up reply actions
Godwined
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 11:56 AM CST up reply actions
you didn't think they already knew that? i don't think it takes
an outsider to realize that. do you think it would be beneficial for an auburn fan to come in here and do the same after the jeremy elder incident? It’s completely unnecessary.
Talking out of turn…that’s a paddling. Looking out the window…that’s a paddling. Staring at my sandals…that’s a paddling. Paddling the school canoe…ooh, you better believe that’s a paddling.
by JR01 on Nov 23, 2009 11:38 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Love this policy
Some other blogs might suggest it is so, but getting banned is never a mark of honor. It means you were either a dick or you mis-judged your audience (or both).
I’m really confused why anyone would be that upset about it. If you like RBR enough to not want to get banned for a week, you should like it enough to not want to make it look bad by showing your ass somewhere else.
I'm wrong all the time.
by PeteHoliday on Nov 23, 2009 11:38 AM CST up reply actions
While that’s usually the case, it is untrue in all situations. Discression and subjectivity must be used when extending a 1 week ban here on RBR.
Why? Just don’t get banned. Simple.
I'm wrong all the time.
by PeteHoliday on Nov 23, 2009 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
Love this policy
“gives us more power whowhahahaa”
Great Game Hokies! What a battle!
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
geez, Toddster
I figured a little bickering would be nice for the Iron Bowl. I understand it would clutter the place, but where’s the fun in being prim and proper with folks we work, play, and live with (including on SBNation blogs)?
Mea Culpa! Mea Maxima Culpa
Roll Tide! Beat the Moccasins?! Mockingbirds?!
It IS a shame
That there are people who even have to be reminded not to be douch nozzles on other folks boards
I'm in no condition to drive...wait! I shouldn't listen to myself, I'm drunk.
by That Other Dave on Nov 23, 2009 11:13 AM CST up reply actions
If you peruse the other sites you can pretty quickly figure out who is a respectful, insightful, and overall good contributors...
of course you can also figure out who the whackos and jerks are. I tend to be respectful and civil to those individuals who deserve it. I also like ot have a good time and joke around with the other group. Do I sometimes cross the line ? Yes but I am working on my sports blog boundaries. There is a thin line between funny and being an Ahole. I respect this blog and think that it truely does set the standard for what aquality blog with civil, articulate fans can accomplish. I do think though sometimes people tend to go a lil extreme on the being “classy” fans mantra… I live in North Alabama so i have TN and AU people around constantly. Half the fun of being a college football fan is enjoying your wins and wallowing in your grief during loses to the dismay/joy of our rivals. RTR
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by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 11:13 AM CST reply actions
yeah
i’ve been perma-banned recently from a certain site after an ill-thought-out spontaneous outburst of dickishness, but sometimes a person deals with years and years of similar dickishness from that particular fanbase while remaining silent and classy about it, until one of their fans negatively brings up our team in a post about a completely different game on a night filled with lack of sleep and a headache, and things happen.
call it my “rolando vs. the ref” moment.
that being said, the venue was totally inappropriate, and i never advocate rubbing salt in wounds (well, the vols might be an exception), or being a serial classless flamer (of which there are quite a few for all teams, and cause me to cringe whenever i see it’s one of our people). i’m glad this is being addressed, especially here, since it’s important that we be grateful for our recent football fortunes and not turn into the yahoos we had to deal with for that decade or so when we were down.
"Have you seen my highlights?" - Javier Arenas
coach bryant, as you might expect, put it best
“I have tried to teach them to show class, to have pride, and to display character. I think football, winning games, takes care of itself if you do that.”
we can’t do anything about winning the football games themselves but we sure as hell can do our part when it come to displaying class, pride and character.
Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.
I have made the mistake more than a few times
of commenting (most of the time in my classic sarcastic way) at the wrong damn time. They usually don’t get what my point is and get all pissy. I have learned to steer clear of rivals sites during their time of pain and agony. Cause it doesn’t really matter what you or I say, in their minds, we are silly bammers.
You also have to be careful on how to approach certain sites.
TET- never go or comment there. I tried in the past and its really a waste of time.
RTT- Don’t try commenting there. Joel, Hooper and Will run a fine site but the commenters are a bit on the sensitive side. God forbid you ever disagree with them cause once you do, you are considered a troll.
Red Cup- I like that site..alot. The Ghost of Jay Culture has a great sense of humor and even though his approach is on the rough side, everything is laced in sarcasm. Just keep that in mind and you won’t be offended.
ATVS- great site but the regulars are a bit sensitive of late. Do you blame them? Not really sure which bama fan pissed them off (i couldn’t find which thread it was) but def don’t go there and flame….and there really isn’t a reason to.
Dawg Sports- one of the top 3 sites on SB in my opinion. Kyle King is great and he really hates Auburn..
All in all, RBR is top notch. For the most part we treat rival fans pretty well but we also do a great job of running off the trolls.
Auburna delenda est!
I find this very accurate. Add AA to the list; similar to RTT- good mods, but there are some poorer members who take things way out of context and insist on getting you banned.
*cought* Volbrian *cough*
that guy has a stick up his ass.
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
ATVS- great site but the regulars are a bit sensitive of late. Do you blame them? Not really sure which bama fan pissed them off (i couldn’t find which thread it was) but def don’t go there and flame….and there really isn’t a reason to
ahh shit. too late my friend, too late…
welcome to the SEC kiffykins...
by tempebamafan on Nov 23, 2009 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
Suppose someone new does visit one of the poorer the sites and inadvertently gets banned, not even posting anything controversial. The 1 week ban on RBR should be subjective to prevent abuse by other moderators.
Simple solution: don’t get banned.
If other mods start trying to game the system I’m sure Todd will modify the policy. I don’t think any of them actually care that much about it, though.
I'm wrong all the time.
by PeteHoliday on Nov 23, 2009 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
That’s all I ask; that in the event of abuse, Todd modify the policy, as there are moderators who will bend the current one. I have not gotten banned anywhere, but there are moderators that would ban you just to see you get a week off at RBR.
The policy isn’t being abused, so there’s no reason to modify it. Your guess that there’s a moderator somewhere who would abuse it is not really a very good argument.
I'm wrong all the time.
by PeteHoliday on Nov 23, 2009 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
It’s not a guess; there are two moderators I know of that would. For example, take my Brandon Spikes post over at Alligator Army. I simply asked for the Florida fan’s take on it. The moderators let the thread stand since it was news-breaking and politely asked for discussion form a genuinely interested person.
Try this on Oregon, SC, or Auburn blogs, and it’s an instant ban. (By the way, kudos to the Florida mods for encouraging discussion and not taking smack talk from trolls)
It is a guess
Because the policy was just implemented. You know of some mods who ban “unfairly”, do you not know of any who have banned someone just to get them banned at RBR.
If the mods thought you were acting in a way that wasn’t appreciated on their blog, you were out of line, whether you like it or not. Their house, their rules. Todd just wants people whose behavior reflects on RBR to not piss off other blog moderators to the point of bannination.
I'm wrong all the time.
by PeteHoliday on Nov 23, 2009 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
I think that the overall motive behind it is actually a good thing....and most of my issues at other sites have been warranted....except for Oregon
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
The oregon thing is actually what sticks with me as to why this could have some unfair results down the road. But who cares this is just a silly alabama blog right?
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
I’m still not sure I see how the result is “unfair”. You offended the host during your visit to the Oregon blog. Maybe you didn’t know you were going to, maybe that wasn’t your intention, but that was the result. Should have been more careful when discussion a hot-button issue with a group that you should have known would be hypersensitive about it.
I'm wrong all the time.
by PeteHoliday on Nov 23, 2009 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
Actually Blount offended their entire team....anyone who wanted to discuss it rationally was collateral damage..water under the bridge though
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
I really dont know what I was thinking ...trying to have a conversation with people who actually might have insight on a situation instead of just tossing around here what we all saw on espn.
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
so you're saying
that your comments on the Ducks blog was not at all out of line. That every thing you said was done with tact and grace?
Auburna delenda est!
no shit
i didn’t read whatever the hell you may have posted @ the oregon blog. but I cant for the life of me think of a better place to go talk about that incident than at the SB nation oregon blog. if the folks over there are not capable of having a discussion with an outsider, then i’d say the real problem is with them.
shit, fans of rival teams come here all the time and we dont run them off simply because they are not “one of us” and it’s bullshit for RBR’s editors to issue a blanket ruling that any and all other SB nation blogs’ bans will apply here too. (yes, todd, nico, OTS, Kleph, and Pete all have the right and probably a little obligation to make sure RBR members aren’t out there pissing everyone off. but to just say “you got banned there, you’re banned here too” without any mechanism for recourse is kinda sorry ass politically correct nonsense)
i would say that our ability to engage others whose opinions differ from our own is one of the strengths of this blog. As long as you “dont act like a dick in their living room” as either nico or todd said, then this shouldn’t be something RBR tries to enforce on it’s own members.
it should be left up to the respective blog to decide if they want “protect themselves from trolls” at the expense of a healthy and vibrant debate at their own sites. and as far as what constitutes “trolling” over “debate” it will always be up to the audience to decide. i’m glad RBR’s reading audience has a maturity level higher than that of a 5th grader which is apparently the common denominator that we’ve all now been reduced to.
welcome to the SEC kiffykins...
by tempebamafan on Nov 23, 2009 1:05 PM CST up reply actions
The problem is that what “acting like a dick” means varies by blog, and those blogs get to define it because you should be following their rules while you’re there.
If you get banned, it’s because you broke one of their rules, which you shouldn’t have done.
The oregon blog might have been the best place to talk about it, but that doesn’t mean you don’t have to be extra sensitive about what you’re posting.
I'm wrong all the time.
Remember people...
….anywhere else but here you are an outsider an will be treated as such.
Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.
technically if treating like an outsider means getting banned then...
“anywhere else but” doesnt apply if thats getting treated like an outsider than you will be treated like an outsider here as well
Most Valuable Participant 2009
logic fail
I'm wrong all the time.
by PeteHoliday on Nov 23, 2009 1:17 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Logic Fail
Knowing before hand that our members will be treated “as an outsider” but not taking that into consideration if a biased ban takes place
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Nope
Nothing illogical about that at all. It’s a known and obvious bias that posters should take into account before they comment on another blog, if they don’t, that makes their comment more insensitive, not less.
I'm wrong all the time.
So do you guys have an obvious bias to visitors from other sites?
Or are you admitting that not all blogs are created equal and therefore other moderators might not take their distinguished roles as “Punishers” as serious
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False dichotomy. Just because there are different ways to run a blog doesn’t meant that some are right and some are wrong.
I'm wrong all the time.
We;;
at least you opened the door to possibility that this may be wrong….also seeing as how you are the Only blog on SBN currently using this type of punishment…I guess that means that everyone else is Wrong except you guys? oh wait false dichotomy….kinda like when you assume that as posters are Motives are wrong if we say something off color on another site assuming that their is a right and wrong way to comment on a blog….for the record I dont plan on being obscene…in fact I doubt Ill even partcipate now on other blogs since their Mods know they can get us banned for Anything they Want.
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"you are the Only blog on SBN currently using this type of punishment"
Good ideas have to start out somewhere.
Umm
Try again. This time read what I read.
“Just because there are different ways to run a blog doesn’t mean that some are right and some are wrong.”
I'm wrong all the time.
Read, Wrote
It’s the internet, they are the same thing.
In a related topic, Is there a “It’s the internet” clause that makes any irrational argument valid, because so many people that just because you type something you aren’t held to the same standards as anything else.
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 1:57 PM CST up reply actions
There should be
:)
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 2:21 PM CST up reply actions
I've e-mailed all the other SEC sites...
….and asked that they inform me when and why y’all get banned. If they are doing just for fun, then certainly you won’t be banned here.
Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.
Seconded.
Great Game Hokies! What a battle!
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
That...
….doesn’t mean y’all can go over and post and then act all “but I was polite!” when you get banned. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, the fact that you are an Alabama fan is one strike against you with other blogs. Doesn’t matter how polite or well thought out your comments are, you’re already not welcome there for the most part, so don’t be surprised if you are shown the door (both there AND here).
Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.
I think we understand. You can politely ask why an LSU fan smells like a corndog, and no matter how politely you ask it, in some situations, it’s out of line.
by squinky86 on Nov 23, 2009 11:55 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
So you admit we are already being judged unfairly just for being bama fans ...
then if that prejudice leads to a premature ban doesnt seem relevant?
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by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 11:58 AM CST up reply actions
No...
….it just means that its foolish for y’all to think posting at a rival site is a good idea. You should be aware of the fact that rivals instantly consider you an enemy and have zero desire to hear what you have to say, no matter how right and civil you are.
Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.
A good idea?
hello i think we are talking about different opinions….what you might have as a good idea might not be the same to someone else…..not everyone needs to think just alike….for instance i didnt think it was a “good idea” to eat that veggie stuff and you did and you did not die so you were right. I thought it looked poisonous.
Great Game Hokies! What a battle!
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
but that is what makes going over there
to present a calm, reasoned, sincere point so much fun. i mean you dont even have to use hyperbole this week, they really feel like total fucking losers, and it’s sooooo easy to help them stay in that mindset, with just a few subtle reminders of just how bad their situation is.
welcome to the SEC kiffykins...
by tempebamafan on Nov 23, 2009 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
LOL......so true......RTR
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by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:25 PM CST up reply actions
i got banned at the southern cal blog
for spelling a players name wrong…Bix even came to my defense and he still banned me…
Auburna delenda est!
so this is about some of our guys going over to ATVS and rubbing it in?
boo hoo. those assholes swore up and down for the last 4 years that they had a better coach and that Saban was a turncoat who’d leave us for ND etc…. i dont see anything wrong with dropping over just to say “hah hah!!!” i mean you have to be a giant dick about it, a simple “hah hah, we told you your coach was a moron who was living on borrowed time” should suffice.
welcome to the SEC kiffykins...
you DONT have to be a dick about it that is...
welcome to the SEC kiffykins...
by tempebamafan on Nov 23, 2009 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
You have created a silly policy that does not address the situational aspects of different sites and different issues.
Sounds like a little laziness on our moderators side if they cant objectively analyze a situation.
Great Game Hokies! What a battle!
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 11:47 AM CST up reply actions
Like I said, I enjoy reading stuff here .heck I visit this page 20 times a day.
I enjoy participating on other sites.
Great Game Hokies! What a battle!
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 11:49 AM CST up reply actions
that being said I really dont care ....dont plan on getting banned.
Great Game Hokies! What a battle!
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 11:47 AM CST reply actions
even if my home doesnt consider me a homebody I still bleed crimson
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by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 11:50 AM CST reply actions
"Have you seen my highlights?" - Javier Arenas
by clarence on Nov 23, 2009 12:02 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
You guys arent going to back track and ban people for previous bans are you?
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by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 11:56 AM CST reply actions
or is this more of a "going forward thing"..i know there are probably some people who want me gone because I "disagree sometimes"
oooh the horror
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by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 11:57 AM CST reply actions
lol
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by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:06 PM CST up reply actions
Going forward...
…we don’t believe in ex post facto punishment.
Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.
And you won't get banned here...
….for talking shit about other teams/fans, so long as you do it here. Just don’t be a dick elsewhere.
Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.
seems a little backwards but I respect your "good ideas" your honor and I will tailor my correspondance to meet the new federal roll tide process guidelines
If you got something dumb to say ……say it here……..if you got something not dumb to say …..say it there……got it . RTR
Great Game Hokies! What a battle!
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
i'm gonna go get myself banned from ATVS
i mean, it’s probably for the best, this being auburn week, me having a lot of shit on my plate at work. it’s really best for all parties involved if i’m not allowed to post til next sunday….
welcome to the SEC kiffykins...
by tempebamafan on Nov 23, 2009 12:00 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
FYI some people actually come here for fun
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by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:08 PM CST reply actions
NO, that IS the point...
….people should be able to have fun talking about their team with their fellow fans. Having some jerk off rival butting in IS NOT FUN.
Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.
I enjoy it when we have people visit us form other blogs
Great Game Hokies! What a battle!
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:11 PM CST up reply actions
?
So you’re saying that each individual blog is only for the fans of that team? You can only be a member of RBR if you are an Alabama fan?
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
No...
…I’m saying that each is primarily designed as a community for that team. You can join if you want, but you need to abide by the standards of the community. If that means they ban you for being an Alabama fan, then that’s their right.
Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.
Yes it is
How then does it become appropriate for you to ban me on RBR for something I say over there? It is my responsibility to follow the rules for their blogs. I just object to the nature of the new policy, because it seems to me that it’s really just about making you guys feel good about yourselves.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 12:20 PM CST up reply actions
You can disagree with the policy and motivations all you want...
…the policy is there now so suck it up and don’t be a dick to the other SBN sites.
Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.
Seconded.
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
Ok
So, I realize that you guys can do whatever you want with RBR. And I am not making a case for being a dick to the other sites. I just am trying to understand why you feel it’s your obligation to take responsibility for every member of your site. There’s no reason to be rude about it.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
Because it kind of makes us the moral dictators for all of SBN duh
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:39 PM CST up reply actions
The motivation is simple: like it or not, the behavior of ‘Bama fans reflects on RBR. I had no input into the policy, but from where I’m sitting, it has the following benefits:
First, to discourage people who actually care about posting privs at RBR to be more careful and respectful when they post at our rival’s blogs.
Second, to demonstrate to the moderators of those other blogs that RBR doesn’t encourage or condone the dickish behavior.
It’s not complicated. Childish cries of “DICTATORS” to the contrary, this is just a way for Todd to demonstrate that he doesn’t appreciate when some RBR members go elsewhere and act like assholes.
I'm wrong all the time.
by PeteHoliday on Nov 23, 2009 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
I am not sure whats more childish pete?
telling someone that they should point browser elsewhere if they disagree? or pointing out how that has a dictatorish ring to it?
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
One of two things is true here: either you are intentionally misinterpreting Kleph’s point just to have something to whine about, or you really just didn’t get it.
His point, as best I can tell, was this: forums/blogs/etc have rules. You don’t have to like the rules. You don’t have to think they’re smart, fair, or honest. You do, however, have to abide by them. If you don’t want to abide by them, there is an entire internet worth of other websites.
He did not say “If you disagree with me, quit visiting.” He said that if you dont’ like the rules, nobody’s forcing you to stay.
He’s right, and there’s nothing dictatorly about pointing out that you have freedom of choice and if you are unhappy with your current situation that you can change it whenever you want. That’s pretty much the opposite of the claims you’re making.
I'm wrong all the time.
by PeteHoliday on Nov 23, 2009 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
breaking a rule and disagreeing with its implementation are two different things pete
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
Indeed, but the point still remains: if you don’t like the rule, nobody’s forcing you to hang around.
I'm wrong all the time.
by PeteHoliday on Nov 23, 2009 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
and encouraging members to leave the site if they have a different view on a subject is sad and does not reflect well on this site...
ironically this whole discussion started because we wanted to uphold this sites reputation
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
Guys not to bust your bubble but people come here for alabama football....not jsut to appease the moderators and agree with everything they say
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
This
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
I will follow rules I have stated over three times taht I do not plan on getting banned so not sure where your going pete?
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
My point
is that your bitching is misguided, pointless, and based on some really poor assumptions.
Nobody has asked you to leave, period.
I'm wrong all the time.
by PeteHoliday on Nov 23, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
Ok well I am not going to sit here and argue with a lawyer...but read the thread read my posts about plannin on following the rule.....read klephs constant "reminders" its on sig if you need it.....and then well just agree to disagree
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
Simple english
It’s right there in your sig:
“you are free to point your browser elsewhere.”
I'm wrong all the time.
by PeteHoliday on Nov 23, 2009 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
If you guys get this bent out of shape any time anyone ever offers another perspective right or wrong, or disagrees its gonna be a long year when were not undefeated
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
We're not bent out of shape...
….at a different opinion. We’re bent out of shape that y’all want to keep arguing over something that isn’t going to change.
Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.
That’s not what’s going on here. You’re not “offering another perspective”, you’re misconstruing other people’s arguments and generally throwing a tantrum.
I'm wrong all the time.
by PeteHoliday on Nov 23, 2009 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
not even sure if B@#$@#$@# is appropriate language
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
Id say the same to you
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 1:00 PM CST up reply actions
It seems to me
That Voice is arguing about disproportionate consequences rather than bitching.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 1:01 PM CST up reply actions
Used to be, maybe
All he’s doing now is tossing in sarcastic comments about how RBR is soviet russia.
The “disproportionate punishment” angle has been raised and answered, though. The mods don’t think it’s disproportionate.
I'm wrong all the time.
Disproportionate or not...
…it is what it is. All the arguing over whether or not its too much won’t do a thing about it. Accept it and move on.
Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.
Done.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 1:05 PM CST up reply actions
but you're
coming here cause the mods do a damn fine job of talking about Alabama football…Ironic huh?
Auburna delenda est!
Still not getting it
He didn’t encourage you to leave. He was reminding you, in case you forgot, that you had that option.
I'm wrong all the time.
by PeteHoliday on Nov 23, 2009 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
thanks because I did actually forget that I can do what I want and that you guys dont control me thanks for reminder
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:54 PM CST up reply actions
It’s a difficult concept, I know, but you should really work on understanding the difference between freedom to act and freedom from consequences.
I'm wrong all the time.
by PeteHoliday on Nov 23, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
and you should really try to understand things can be implied when repeated over and over
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
Or inferred, when someone is looking to be offended because they don’t have any real arguments and want to godwin a thread.
I'm wrong all the time.
or when someone wants to validate themselves
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 1:01 PM CST up reply actions
Pete by the way I know your a lawyer so this should be pretty obvious to you ..
but there are two ways to end an argument and one is not trying to have the last word …so I will stop….good rule…does it have holes time will tell……we can agree that Les is a homo
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 1:02 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not a lawyer.
…and I don’t know anything about what Les Miles does in the bedroom, but I reckon he probably has some “clock management” issues there, as well.
I'm wrong all the time.
by PeteHoliday on Nov 23, 2009 1:04 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
does anyone else already have the username "drumroll"
for the next five days there is nothing in my heart but hate. pure, untempered, ice-cold hate. fond memories are for saturday. - Kleph
by tempebamafan on Nov 23, 2009 2:00 PM CST up reply actions
Niiiice.
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 2:01 PM CST up reply actions
You know what...
….its not my obligation to make sure y’all play nice with the other SBN blogs since y’all don’t actually represent RBR in any substantial way (Only OTS, Nico, Pete, kleph and myself do). BUT, SBN is a community driven enterprise, and by acting like a dick at another site, you are hurting their communities (who wants to take part in a comment thread filled with rival fans popping off?) and generally making this whole blogging thing not fun for anyone. In an effort to help my fellow SBN writers, I am implementing this policy to hopefully reign y’all in a little. I’ve said plenty of times that y’all need to respect each community and leave them be, but that hasn’t seemed to work. So now you get punished.
Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.
but once they are banned from their communities doesnt that kind of solve the issue of hurting their communities?
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
Todd your new avatar should be the Punisher!
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
that would be swwwweeett
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
hmm let me work on that ....
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
Yes.
But that doesn’t solve the “problem” of RBR needing to take action… oh wait, yes it does.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
Im just havin fun with yall I might actually take this serious if I hadnt been on my best behavior as of late....so contrary to somes view....this really has nothing to do with me at the moment.
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:45 PM CST up reply actions
By the way
This is one of the responses by the ATVS mods to banned a particular Bama fan…
Seriously, shut the fuck up. I don’t give a shit about Bama. I don’t give a shit about Saban. Go sell your haughty How Great Bama Is and How Awful LSU Is to someone who gives a damn. Win a title or shut the fuck up.
Most of the aftermath has been us bitching about Miles, not anything else. So talk about how we’re whining somewhere else. You’re a fucking troll. Enjoy being banned. Fuck off.
Seems perfectly reasonable to me…
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
the context of that means nothing
without the original bama fan’s post
"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim
by Thomas Walker Esq on Nov 23, 2009 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
Here it is
You guys are in a hard place and this is coming from a Bama fan so obviously I’m an outsider.
But, you can’t fire Les right now because he won a NC just 2 years ago. I mean that is worth 5 years tenure. Your best hope is that he leaves, but unfortunately for you, Michigan is not going to take him now, they would take Harbaugh if they dump RR.
So, I’d say you are stuck with Les for at least 3 or 4 more years. Which means you are stuck being the #2 or #3 team in the West as long as Saban stays at Bama. And I know you guys don’t believe Saban will stay, and I know you all are surprised at how well he has done, but it looks like he is going to stay a while. His daughter is a freshman at Bama and in a sorority and I just can’t see Saban leaving until she graduates, if then.
So you are stuck with Les. You are not going to beat Urban or Saban in the next few years and you are going to struggle with Nutt and Petrino.
But hey, he is doing a great job of recruiting so when he finally does leave in about 3 or 4 years you will have a good team for the new coach.
But you just are not going to be able to fire the guy when he won a NC and will still win 8 or 9 games and get you guys into the Peach Bowl. The Peach is not a bad bowl.
So you ought to forget this fire Miles stuff and focus on reality. A stupid coach got incredibly lucky for one year and now HE IS LSU FOOTBALL. Glad I’m not you.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 1:03 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not saying that it was tactful.
But it wasn’t “offensive” by any reasonable definition.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 1:03 PM CST up reply actions
+1
“Your best hope is that he leaves, but unfortunately for you, Michigan is not going to take him”
“You are not going to beat Urban or Saban”
“Which means you are stuck being the #2 or #3 team in the West as long as Saban stays at Bama.”
“Glad I’m not you.”
I'm wrong all the time.
so that example is sufficent enough to get an RBR ban as well?
welcome to the SEC kiffykins...
by tempebamafan on Nov 23, 2009 1:09 PM CST up reply actions
then i await my punishment
i told the folks at ATVS to get that patrick peterson kid some gatoraid cuz “he will be using his legs this weekend, arky can sling it”
welcome to the SEC kiffykins...
by tempebamafan on Nov 23, 2009 1:12 PM CST up reply actions
See, that's my point
The content wasn’t the issue. If anything, it was a timing problem. That doesn’t make 95% of it any less true.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 1:10 PM CST up reply actions
But...
…it still makes it rude as hell. I don’t know why y’all can’t get it through your heads that being right and being rude can be one and the same.
Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.
sometimes the truth hurts
welcome to the SEC kiffykins...
by tempebamafan on Nov 23, 2009 1:12 PM CST up reply actions
It does...
…but it doesn’t mean you have to be the one to do the digging.
Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.
Maybe.
But the reaction was expletive-laced and angry, and banning him was a knee-jerk reaction.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 1:07 PM CST up reply actions
See...
….if you can’t understand why you were banned for that, then you really need to think long and hard about EVER commenting anywhere else. Whoever banned you didn’t have to send a profanity laced note, but he was certainly within his rights to ban you. Think of it this way; say we eventually lose a game (stop laughing, it’s possible!), and you and your friends are sitting around your living room talking about the game when an Auburn fan shows up at the door to give you a saracasm laced spiel about the game. Would you invite him in for a beer? hell no! You’d slam the door in his face.
Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.
Let me repeat
I WASN’T BANNED. These are not my comments. Just providing an example.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions
Furthermore
I understand why he was banned. I just don’t think he should be banned from RBR for that. My opinion. Take it or leave it.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 1:12 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
their perogative to ban him
no way should that warrant a ban here IMO
welcome to the SEC kiffykins...
by tempebamafan on Nov 23, 2009 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
But it's Todd's prerogative to ban here...
and he says it does, so the argument kind of defeats itself.
I'm wrong all the time.
or hell...
if we some how lose on Friday to Auburn…I guarrantee if some ignorant barner comes here with a similar post…shit..we’d rip into him like a fat kid on a cupcake.
Auburna delenda est!
Right.
But would you ban him?
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
thats up to the mods
of the site…which is kinda the point. As Todd as joked (not really though) many times, this isn’t a democracy. Like it or not.
Auburna delenda est!
I still think the mods might be wrong
I’m a free speech guy. I think that the idiocy of certain posters can and should speak for itself.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 1:19 PM CST up reply actions
Not a 1st Amendment issue
Letting a poster’s idiocy speak for itself is great, except when it detracts from better discussion.
I'm wrong all the time.
Um
I’m not saying that the 1st Amendment applies here. I mean that banning someone for an opinion that you don’t like (rather than for something truly offensive) is distasteful to me. That’s what makes the internet what it is, for better or worse.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
I’m not sure how that applies here. If there’s a blog out there that bans people for opinions they disagree with, you shouldnt’ go there and post things they’ll disagree with.
I'm wrong all the time.
yeah? well, thats just like,
your opinion, man.
welcome to the SEC kiffykins...
by tempebamafan on Nov 23, 2009 1:36 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe I shouldn't
But what you’re saying is that if I do, RBR will ban me too. That’s not very nice. :)
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 1:40 PM CST up reply actions
Honestly...
I think we are all getting tired of certain posters ( and im not saying you are one) who just go around and troll. The ones who’s only purpose in life is to stir the pot. As bama fans we talk about class and tradition. Those flamers/ trolls destroy that claim. So i guess this is the mods way of showing that those few posters don’t represent the entire fan base.
Auburna delenda est!
Bammer ...correct me if I am wrong...
but wasnt it you who went and started a big argument on the RTT or another rifvals site adn came back witha fan shot linking the whole argument in an attempt to get support???? that may have been some hypocrit taht I confused with your user name
Most Valuable Participant 2009
Actually...
Someone else started the thread. I made a comment about Auburn and UT being in very similar circumstances and the whole thing blew up. They thought i created the thread…I came here to point out how ridiculous it was that UT fans thought they were so much better off than the barn. I never went their to troll or flame. I was talking back and forth with hooper and some of the commenters got all butt hurt. shit happens.
Auburna delenda est!
Actually
You may have not started the thread at RTT…but you definately started the thread about that thread here at RBR to gain support….so just wondering how the whole recession has affected the pricing on glass houses.
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 2:58 PM CST up reply actions
Bammer
Has had a few comments that made me scowl a bit, but it’s my opinion that he’s a perfectly fine person to have posting at RTT. The mods of RTT defend him quite a bit, too, and for good reason. He might stir the pot a bit — but who doesn’t? Overall, he’s enjoyable so overall he’s okay.
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 3:01 PM CST up reply actions
thanks bobo
I have learned to not be so abrasive all the time. Im generally a sarcastic person and that can come across jerky…again.. you live and learn.
Auburna delenda est!
Well actually
As Todd has mentioned there is nothing wrong with making fun or pointing out the stupidity of other fanbases here. My mistake ( and i admitted i was wrong) was with how i went about it. If i had created the thread here first, then id be ok. You live and learn
But i was never banned, threatened of being banned (actualy i was for cursing but not for commenting).
But there is a difference in arguing and trolling.
Auburna delenda est!
but would we ban him?
did we ban “BamaRulez”? hell no! that guy was awsome.
welcome to the SEC kiffykins...
by tempebamafan on Nov 23, 2009 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
he was more like "troll fail"
and i found his antics quite amusing…. for real, i did post some truth @ ATVS. ban me for a week if you want (but please only for 1 week max). i have to go to work now anyways, and i bet i can fill the time @ edsbs by talkin smack there. (it’s already florida week in my mind…… i cant f-in wait til dec 5th. barn is an afterthought this year)
welcome to the SEC kiffykins...
by tempebamafan on Nov 23, 2009 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
This thread is EPIC
almost as much as the Movie Quote thread last year.
And big ups to lil sis for getting this one kick-started!
It is important to find someone who allows you to fulfill your dreams. It is luck if that person finds you, too - Isaiah Zagar
my daughter
texted me and told me my comment was on the front page and my first reaction was ‘oh hell’. when i loggedon at work and saw over 300 posts & going strong i thought – ’holy shit, what did i do now and how did i get in this much trouble for it?: lol
"You have to create 6 seconds of hell each play..."
Coach Nick Saban
I dont enjoy it when were told as a blog that if you disagree then you should point browser elsewhere.....what country to we live in again?
Disagreement is actually a positive thing.
Great Game Hokies! What a battle!
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:11 PM CST reply actions
that may be viewed a negative thing to just like disagreement
Great Game Hokies! What a battle!
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
Damn brandonh
This means we may never hear from you again! LOL
by rolltidefromaz on Nov 23, 2009 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
Don't start in on the freedom of speech "is this Russia?" bullshit...
….this is a blog. This blog has administrators who have every right to ban you if they so desire. It doesn’t matter what for.
Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.
Sorry if my blatant honesty comes across as undermining your authority Todd
Great Game Hokies! What a battle!
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
opinion
Great Game Hokies! What a battle!
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
not to beat this thing to death just want to make sure I understand rules..
is it being banned from only SEC blogs ? or pretty much any SBN blog ? waht about MMA?
Great Game Hokies! What a battle!
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:13 PM CST reply actions
Any blog....
…though the SEC ones are the only ones I’ve e-mailed about it.
Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.
those MMA guys love to talk smack....i mean look at the sport.
since todd quoted saban maybe I should quote Dana White
Great Game Hokies! What a battle!
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:13 PM CST reply actions
please dont do that
cause then I’D have to ban you.
welcome to the SEC kiffykins...
by tempebamafan on Nov 23, 2009 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
b/c dana white ='s giant tool
welcome to the SEC kiffykins...
by tempebamafan on Nov 23, 2009 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
Dana is super cool and ifyou disagree you can point your browser elsewhere!!! OOH SNAP
Great Game Hokies! What a battle!
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:29 PM CST up reply actions
I'm
not a fan of MMA, but no so much “anti-MMA” as I am anti-douche bag who works out in $50 Affliction shirts with generic tribal tatoo who has over-tanned so much he looks 45 but is really 27.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
good googly moogly
This thread certainly took on a life of it’s own. Look, if you act like an ass you should be treated like an ass, plain and simple, and it shouldn’t matter where said asshattery occurred. I personally like this policy and I’m sure if someone feels that they got unjustly bannned (and OMG absolutely has to post on RBR!!) then they could send an appeal to the authors.
Seconded.
Great Game Hokies! What a battle!
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
I know I give everyone a hard time....I do like to debate and have fun....I am sorry if I annoy you guys....I guess I look at yall like brothers that I have never met yet when I joke around its never personal.
Great Game Hokies! What a battle!
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:16 PM CST reply actions
no trouble...
just a couple of members wanting to stir shit. which is argument enough that this step needed to be taken.
Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.
Fair Enough.
but lets all agree on one thing……That les miles in an idiot!…….i can say that here right?
Great Game Hokies! What a battle!
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:24 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
but try to have some decorum about it...
welcome to the SEC kiffykins...
by tempebamafan on Nov 23, 2009 12:25 PM CST up reply actions
Hey...
…y’all can talk all the shit about other teams that you want to HERE. All we’re saying/asking is that you show the rest of SBN the kind of respect that you want rival fans to show us. Its that simple.
Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.
you mean the kind of respect that Todd wants our rival fans to show us?
I usually done hold much credence to people opinions after we destroy them on the football field…..call me crazy
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:36 PM CST reply actions
dont
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 12:36 PM CST reply actions
by the way...
I completely agree with VOR
Most Valuable Participant 2009
by Other on Nov 23, 2009 1:03 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
this thread is taking itself entirely too seriously
"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim
by Thomas Walker Esq on Nov 23, 2009 1:10 PM CST reply actions
let's try that again
"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim
by Thomas Walker Esq on Nov 23, 2009 1:12 PM CST up reply actions
correction
you people take yourselves entirely too seriously
"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim
by Thomas Walker Esq on Nov 23, 2009 1:25 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
At least now we can add " most strict blog on SBN" right next to 12 national championships
Not meant as a slight …just a reality…..hey someone has to lead the way to saving the university’s reputation against crazy batty trolls
Most Valuable Participant 2009
you're right. it is sad when we can barely get it up for auburn,
but she’s really let herself go…
welcome to the SEC kiffykins...
by tempebamafan on Nov 23, 2009 1:16 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
+1
"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim
by Thomas Walker Esq on Nov 23, 2009 1:16 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Just to clarify,
I want to make sure I get this right. If another moderate bans a Bama fan and cites the reason as, “A Bama fan posted on our site, and it was pro-Bama. We hate Bama!” Todd will not ban us from here (depending on the content of the post). If, however, the reason is something like, “Bama fan repeatedly commented insulting, offensive, or untimely material on our blog,” it’s a 1-week ban from here, too. Bans for just being a Bama fan will not count.
Insulting comments are ones like, “Don’t you wish you had Tubbs back?” when Cheezit does something stupid.
Offensive comments are ones that are, for example, profane, and I won’t list an example here.
Untimely comments are ones like, “Tebow got KNOCKED OUT! LOL!” right after he got knocked out. (you insensitive dolt)
Comments that won’t get you banned from here are ones like, posting on a UT-Chattanooga blog (I’m using them as an example because I can’t find a Chattanooga blog on SBS), “As a Bama fan, what do Chattanooga fans feel is important to get out of the game against us?” and then getting banned for being a Bama fan.
As I don’t intend on ever getting banned, I just wanted to clarify the policy for newer fans here on RBR.
Whatever happened to the new logo?
Most Valuable Participant 2009
well i dont see what all the comotion is about
i thought ol Less Miles coached a fine ballgame, a damn fine ballgame.
i'm not signin shit
by Captain_Oblivious on Nov 23, 2009 1:18 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
+1
That’s some funny sh*t.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 1:21 PM CST up reply actions
you were kinda late with that timeout
i mean shit, even I can tell that we dont have enough time now….
i'm not signin shit
by Captain_Oblivious on Nov 23, 2009 1:21 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Fine, then spike it!
makes wild gesticulated hand gestures to spike the ball
by squinky86 on Nov 23, 2009 1:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
ok! i'll hurry
i'm not signin shit
by Captain_Oblivious on Nov 23, 2009 1:23 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Banned,
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 2:53 PM CST up reply actions
Well, this was fun
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 1:21 PM CST reply actions
In other news, a new blog has opened up to take in all those who still want to troll on other sites...
Troll Bama Troll will mirror the content of RBR, but allow its members to look like jerks to everyone else.
by squinky86 on Nov 23, 2009 1:26 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
can we please add some Reddit style voting arrows?
thats all this place needs to rule the world. cause then users would just down vote bad trolls off the page. and those with a higher tollerance for trolls can just adjust their filters to view comments with lower scores. it’s perfect really. Reddit is like an internet utopia except for all the nerds who hang out there.
welcome to the SEC kiffykins...
by tempebamafan on Nov 23, 2009 1:30 PM CST up reply actions
dude, reddit style voting arrows
check it out. i think it would really add to the site. especially in giant threads like this one. it helps foster a community that polices itself, it rewards substantive posts, and it actively discriminates against posts that other members have determined do not meet our standards.
welcome to the SEC kiffykins...
by tempebamafan on Nov 23, 2009 1:39 PM CST up reply actions
Reddit is old news
…but RBR doesn’t have any control over that. You’d have to get SBN to implement it.
I'm wrong all the time.
reddit is not old news
it was like the best place to get live, happening this moment, straight from the source, news when all that crap was poppin off in Iran. and the way it is designed means it should continue to be a useful news site. but my point is about how the user voted comment system works. if you click on a serious article about an in depth topic, you’ll have to scroll a ways down the page to find the first uninformed nonsense comment from some a-hole. you may even have to click the “un-hide” button, then realize you shouldn’t have clicked it because it was a comment from some guy with a “ZOG conspiracy” axe to grind. you simply ignore that guy and your set. the comments over there are the reason i use reddit for news now instead of hopping from BBC to Guardian to google to bloomberg. (yes their finance, law, guns, world politics, libertarianism, and marijuana news sub-reddits are pretty fantastic. you only get idiots in the main reddit.com portal and all the stupid “lulz-y” type ones…)
for the next five days there is nothing in my heart but hate. pure, untempered, ice-cold hate. fond memories are for saturday. - Kleph
by tempebamafan on Nov 23, 2009 2:06 PM CST up reply actions
Well
My point is that reddit itself is old news. Oooooold news. I’m not saying it’s not good, only that it’s not some new thing out there (although it has become much more popular recently). The voting idea has been around since slashdot (if not before that), and it can be good (although other times it just turns the sites into popularity contests), but in any event, that’s an SBN thing. Todd can’t do anything about it.
I'm wrong all the time.
This discussion has single handedly
disenchanted me from this blog and the idea of sharing your ideas with others on the internet. At this point I wouldn’t really mind being banned from any site for any length of time. To say that we only let certain people talk to us and we can only talk to certain people a certain way is unfathomable. To make this site more “holier than thou” than even real life seems laughable to me. I know certain people want the internet to be better than reality but guess what, it isn’t. It is run by real people with real personalities and some of them are ass holes. And when I say “some” I mean “alot”. If you can’t handle just not reading what some random person on a blog says about your favorite sports team, then how do you function in reality? I really enjoy getting my news here because there are knowledgable writers and it seems to be quicker than anywhere else, but I honestly don’t want to associate myself with people that have built something this great but think that it is purely for their pleasure. Ban away you Gods of the Internet.
"The first person I would like to thank is the good Lord, for giving me the ability to play the game of football. Because without the ability to play the game I would have been at Auburn." - Marty Lyons
by crimsonpride19 on Nov 23, 2009 1:30 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
are you calling brian cook an asshole?
welcome to the SEC kiffykins...
by tempebamafan on Nov 23, 2009 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
cause i've been over there and at least they didn't ban me
i dropped some hardcore science on them too. i made fun of them jingling their keys instead of clapping (i believe i suggested they all get "hail to the victors on a ringtone and try that out) and their gay ass internet 2.0 style commenting system. then i ridiculed them for their penchant for memes about the soviet union and such. laid em to waste with a spanish civil war analogy i did.
welcome to the SEC kiffykins...
by tempebamafan on Nov 23, 2009 1:34 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
OH SNAP!!!
YOU UNLEASHED A SPANISH CIVIL WAR ANALOGY ON THEM?!? Those are DEADLY. I’ll never get on the wrong side of an argument with you. Well played, tempe.
by crimsontsunami on Nov 23, 2009 2:10 PM CST up reply actions
It’s really just as simple as not being an asshole on other people’s blogs.
That said, understand that if RBR gets a rep for going to other blogs and trolling, it’s not going to come back on crimsonpride19, or tempebamafan, or really anyone but Todd, Nico, and OTS. Even Kleph and I will be somewhat exempted from it. Todd is trying to make a the statement that he doesn’t support trolling on other SBN blogs. It’s not some affront to the nature of the internet, it’s just trying to mitigate the effect of people getting a little full of our 23-2 record and going and spouting off places they shouldn’t.
I'm wrong all the time.
No, no, Pete.
You can’t share your ideas on the internet without being a dick, haven’t you heard? ;-)
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 1:45 PM CST up reply actions
This is new information to me
…I’m going to need an objective third party verification.
I'm wrong all the time.
The fact that the mods here are worried about their reputation with other fan bases...
says everything I need to know about why this policy is happening.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 1:47 PM CST up reply actions
We're not worried about our reps with other fan bases...
….we’re worried about our reps WITH OUR FELLOW SBN COLLEAGUES. There is a difference there. LSU fans can kiss my ass, Richard Pittman and Poseur, on the other hand, are nice guys that I enjoy talking with. Its embarassing as hell to me that they had to institute a policy specifically for Alabama fans after the game because a bunch of y’all decided to join ATVS for the specific purpose of being a dick.
Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.
Yeah
The Point of SBN isn’t to give individual schools a chance to blow off steam, it’s to link blogs together to create a community. There are community standards here, and I think the RBR mod-folk-types are getting around to taking a harder stance on enforcing those standards.
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 1:53 PM CST up reply actions
see i joined ATVS for the purpose of being a dick
but i did it a long time ago ;-)
and i’ve held true to form by not cussing or being overly mean spirited when i’m there, just dropping science from time to time.
for the next five days there is nothing in my heart but hate. pure, untempered, ice-cold hate. fond memories are for saturday. - Kleph
by tempebamafan on Nov 23, 2009 2:11 PM CST up reply actions
I hear you
But they’re not “your” Alabama fans. And embarrassment or not, you aren’t responsible for what they say or do. That’s all I’m trying to say.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 2:16 PM CST up reply actions
Saying so doesn't make it so
They don’t “belong” to Todd, but he certainly bears some of the consequences from “his” readers going elsewhere and being dicks.
I'm wrong all the time.
And those consequences are...?
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 2:32 PM CST up reply actions
People thinking RBR is full of morons.
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 2:34 PM CST up reply actions
Sometimes it is.
As is every other blog with any sizable fan base. That is the nature of the beast.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 2:38 PM CST up reply actions
But like Todd, or someone, said above
The consequence isn’t other fan bases thinking Todd and his blog is stupid, it’s people he respects and likes to talk with thinking he runs a stupid, moronic blog. Which isn’t something he should have to go through sitting down, considering this is, in the end, his blog.
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 2:41 PM CST up reply actions
The people he respects and likes
Probably know he is not a jerk, and that he and the other RBR contributors do good work. A couple of jerk comments don’t change that.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 2:42 PM CST up reply actions
But he still shouldn't have to deal with it
and this is his way of providing a little extra motivation to not be dicks when we go elsewhere. Makes perfect sense.
I'm wrong all the time.
sounds to me like
the other mods are a bunch of low-down, dirty snitches. Maybe all secretly Tennessee fans? :)
"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim
by Thomas Walker Esq on Nov 23, 2009 2:49 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
But...
….by standing by and acting all “oh well, i can’t control them” it makes it look like I condone that kind of activity, and I don’t.
Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.
we dont car whut u hillbillies think abowt us
"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim
by Thomas Walker Esq on Nov 23, 2009 2:39 PM CST up reply actions
By some of the overreactions here today
I think sometimes it is.
I'm in no condition to drive...wait! I shouldn't listen to myself, I'm drunk.
by That Other Dave on Nov 23, 2009 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
Wow so this has less to do with the University's reputation as originally stated and more to do with looking hardcore with your cronies
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 3:02 PM CST up reply actions
so i'm a troll eh?
for the next five days there is nothing in my heart but hate. pure, untempered, ice-cold hate. fond memories are for saturday. - Kleph
by tempebamafan on Nov 23, 2009 2:10 PM CST up reply actions
Actually...
….we can let only certain people talk to us and say who you can and can’t talk to. You wouldn’t invite someone who is rude and insulting into your home on a regular basis would you? Or would you allow someone who is always rude and insulting to other people hang around you very often since you would be associated with them? No. This is exactly the same.
Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.
NO! It's not exactly the same.
These are not our homes. This is a website on the internet. If this was my home I would be disappointed right now, but it’s not my home. My home is not exactly the same as the internet nor will it ever be. That analogy, while I understand its validity in this conversation, is not a good one.
"The first person I would like to thank is the good Lord, for giving me the ability to play the game of football. Because without the ability to play the game I would have been at Auburn." - Marty Lyons
by crimsonpride19 on Nov 23, 2009 1:52 PM CST up reply actions
It's a perfect analogy, actually
“These are not our homes.”
No, you’re right. It’s Todd & Nico’s [internet] home. ATVS is the home of its mods. Likewise for RTT and so on.
The readers and commenters are a part of that, too, as they tend to congregate around communities that have been built by those mods. But the point is the same:
ATVS (to use an example) is a “home” for lots of LSU fans. Going to their blog and being a dick is the same as going into one of their real homes and being a dick. It’s not going to get you invited back (i.e. banned).
I'm wrong all the time.
Yeah
The reason the internet sucks, quite frankly, is because you don’t have accountability with your words. I can say “Pete, you’re an Auburn-loving douche” and, you know what, nothing will happen. If people act like they are accountable, though, more intelligent, thoughtful conversation usually happens.
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
Ever say such a terrible thing about me
…and you’re uninvited to my tailgates.
I'm wrong all the time.
Is it sad
That “Auburn-loving” was the worst insult I could come up with to an Alabama person?
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 2:13 PM CST up reply actions
dude
crossed the line
Terrence Cody eats your field goal!
by Wallacewade04 on Nov 23, 2009 2:14 PM CST up reply actions
nah, you couldve
accused him of liking the Vols
"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim
by Thomas Walker Esq on Nov 23, 2009 2:16 PM CST up reply actions
I completely agree that the world would be better made of marshmallows.
"The first person I would like to thank is the good Lord, for giving me the ability to play the game of football. Because without the ability to play the game I would have been at Auburn." - Marty Lyons
by crimsonpride19 on Nov 23, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
+10000000000000000000
Most Valuable Participant 2009
cue the Mod's reminder of your freedom of choice to leave the blog
Most Valuable Participant 2009
Don't forget...
…we’ll send you a full refund too!
Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.
by Todd on Nov 23, 2009 1:38 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
See the reason that's funny is because it's free.
I get it. And the reason it’s not really the coolest thing to say is because we’re sort of the reason you do this. You’re not really acting like it right now because you’re mad at the people on here that say ass hole things, but that’s why you do this. Unless, of course, you do it for the money, and in that case, I would definitely never visit this site again.
"The first person I would like to thank is the good Lord, for giving me the ability to play the game of football. Because without the ability to play the game I would have been at Auburn." - Marty Lyons
by crimsonpride19 on Nov 23, 2009 1:45 PM CST up reply actions
To some extent, y'all are the reason we do this...
….but to be perfectly frank if no one ever read this blog but the five of us, we’d still be doing it because we love Alabama football and can’t help but talk about it. So if we piss off a bunch of y’all and you decide to never read this site again, then fine.
Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.
That's simply untrue.
And while I don’t know you personally I believe that the intelligence of the human being would naturally find other venues to empty its resources. The reason you have time and money to contribute to this site is because people come. Listen, I appreciate the hell out of you guys. I didn’t know stuff like this existed until I found RBR. But I liked it a heck of alot more before I knew discussions like this were even necessary.
"The first person I would like to thank is the good Lord, for giving me the ability to play the game of football. Because without the ability to play the game I would have been at Auburn." - Marty Lyons
by crimsonpride19 on Nov 23, 2009 1:59 PM CST up reply actions
Objectively false
Have you been to most blogs? The rule is lots of posting with no readers to speak of. Blogs like RBR are the exceptions. So, yeah, we’d all pretty much be doing this regardless of whether we were getting 1 reader a day or 100,000.
I also think you probably vastly over-estimate the amount of revenue this blog brings in.
I'm wrong all the time.
The members of RBR reflect upon the blog itself .. the blog itself reflects upon the mods .. the mods make money .. so the members of RBR should get money!!!!11
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 2:09 PM CST up reply actions
Good thing all of the mods are members, too...
So I’ll be keeping my six-figure check, thank you very much.
I'm wrong all the time.
I have no guess at all how much money you make off this site.
the funny thing is. . . that’s not the point. As I said I appreciate you guys for what you do here because it’s awesome. But the reason it’s awesome is not necessarily how it’s run, it’s the community of people. And inside that community are alot of people. And inside that large number of people are a large number of personalities. And with all those personalities you’re going to have people that express themselves differently. And in absolutely no way should those people uner any circumstances apologize to you or anyone else for the people that they are. They do not represent you nor anyone else here that happens to visit this site. You are in danger of commiting the same violation you are accusing by vastly over estimating your boundaries.
"The first person I would like to thank is the good Lord, for giving me the ability to play the game of football. Because without the ability to play the game I would have been at Auburn." - Marty Lyons
by crimsonpride19 on Nov 23, 2009 2:24 PM CST up reply actions
reason it’s awesome is not necessarily how it’s run, it’s the community of people
The community did not spring from the aether wholly formed, it has been developed over time by Todd (et al.) blogging and running things the way he does.
And in absolutely no way should those people uner any circumstances apologize to you or anyone else for the people that they are.
That’s some hippy bullshit if I’ve ever heard it. Nobody is asking them to apologize. Todd has simply set forth some guidelines for the site he runs. Be a dick, get banned. It’s super simple and doesn’t require any of this “Everyone is okay just the way they are” nonsense.
I'm wrong all the time.
Okay, that was funny.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 2:37 PM CST up reply actions
It's funny
Because Pete is a lawyer. Or something?
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 2:38 PM CST up reply actions
lol..not sure where that came from....definately not his ability to logically argue...
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 3:05 PM CST up reply actions
Yes, good call. We should take arguing tips from the guy who spells “definitely” with an ‘a.’
I'm wrong all the time.
I do that all the time.
Mozilla Spell-Checker ftw.
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions
or the guy who spell checks this thread
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 3:12 PM CST up reply actions
Funny and Amazing
How you took something I said, completely misrepresented it in your argument, called it something so clever like “hippy”, threw a curse word in there like “bullshit”, and pawned it back off on me like I’M the irrational one. Next time you call a bunch of people dicks, try not to be so hypocritical. Just a little guideline of my own.
"The first person I would like to thank is the good Lord, for giving me the ability to play the game of football. Because without the ability to play the game I would have been at Auburn." - Marty Lyons
by crimsonpride19 on Nov 23, 2009 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
Wait wait wait
Pete was just trying to
express [himself] differentlywhy u hatin’??!
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 4:03 PM CST up reply actions
Next time you use a word like "hypocritical"
…try to use it properly. Just a little guideline of my own.
If I misrepresented your argument, please, by all means, feel free to clarify what you meant. When you said that people shouldn’t have to apologize for who they are (and, while you’re at it, feel free to point out where anyone had asked them to).
I thought the language was pretty clear, but maybe you’re using alternate definitions that I’m not aware of.
I'm wrong all the time.
I liked it a hell of a lot more...
….before discussions like this became necessary too.
And I’m not sure if you think this site is our job, but it is not. The time put into it is my/our free time, and what little money we make off of it would in no way allow us to do it full time. Its a glorified hobby for us.
Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.
Then I'm curious why you're so worried about the state of your reputation.
I have made all of about one comment on TET and, since they have 4 readers, I never said anything else again. Are you going to take responsibility for the one thing I said? The answer is no because the idea I shared there was mine. You are not everyone. You are You. Do you think that you and I have shared responsibility of the things I say because my name is crimsonpride19? If that’s it then I’ll change it to something more ambiguous like BigFan or HeyEveryone19. Then you will have no connection with my ideals whatsoever.
"The first person I would like to thank is the good Lord, for giving me the ability to play the game of football. Because without the ability to play the game I would have been at Auburn." - Marty Lyons
by crimsonpride19 on Nov 23, 2009 2:18 PM CST up reply actions
You might have to change your sig too.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 2:19 PM CST up reply actions
So, if I owned a restaurant or a bar...
…and let people come in and act whatever way they wanted (belching out loud at the top of their lungs, throwing food, etc.), it wouldn’t be a reflection on me?
That's not what we're talking about.
We’re talking about you hearing that people came in to some other bar and acting foolish. Then you decided to ban them from your bar too, even though they have never behaved that way in your establishment.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 3:02 PM CST up reply actions
That would be a wonderful rule.
I mean, we do it as it is. If a friend of yours punches another friend of yours in the face for no reason, chances are you’re going to be a bit pissed at friend #1 and help friend #2 hate on him.
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 3:05 PM CST up reply actions
Sounds
like an ACT question.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
And, actually...
There are bars that have that rule within their own joint-owned establishments. If you get banned from one, you get banned from them all.
I'm wrong all the time.
That's a little different.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
Here's the thing though...
…and I’m not even saying I agree with Todd’s idea (that’s a discussion for all of us mod folks to haWve elsewhere), but if people with “Alabama” listed on their team site go raising a ruckus elsewhere, it is a problem for us because it just invites that behavior over here from people with (insert team not name Alabama here________) listed as their team.
That's a better reason
Than the one that was given.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
"The" reason
there’s not just one reason. There are probably a thousand reasons, large and small, to not go to someone else’s blog and be a dick. This is one of them. A multitude of others have been mentioned elsewhere in this thread. They’re all a part of it.
Honestly, I never really expected so many ’Bama fans to be so in love with going around and being trashy on other blogs that they wanted to fight so hard to preserve the right to do so with impunity.
I'm wrong all the time.
You assume too much
Just because I think that the policy is wrong does not mean I am defending that kind of behavior. I believe I have said that multiple times. I honestly think that what someone else posts on any particular blog is only worthwhile for the entertainment value anyway. You guys are making way too big a deal out of the whole banning business.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 3:26 PM CST up reply actions
I'm assuming
then that there is a reciprocity agreement with the aforementioned SEC blog mods?
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 3:12 PM CST up reply actions
what if you banned patrons from your bar bc they got drunk and acted up one night across town at another competing establishment...even though they were provoked my rival bar tenders for hours before succumbing to their drunken rage
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 3:06 PM CST up reply actions
SBN
Isn’t a competing business, though. It’s a community where fans should be cordial to others.
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 3:08 PM CST up reply actions
FWIW
y’all do a great job, i’ve appreciated the effort you and nico put into this thing since the 2006 season. and i remember the early days when you didn’t have to deal this kinda crap. your site has been a victim of its own success to some point. like any organization or group that starts out small but grows into something much larger, this place will have growing pains. also, it shouldn’t come as a surprise that you wish to maintain a healthy and professional relationship with your peers @ other SB nation sites. i dont have an issue with that. but i do think you’ll be doing your own site and member base a dis service by implementing a one size fits all ban policy. perhaps a new membership agreement statement should be crafted that clarifies this “code of conduct on other blogs” bit….
come to think of it, i haven’t been banned by any other SB nation blogs and i’ve posted at 9 others. so maybe gettign banned should be a clue to shut up. i still feel like RBR members shoudl have their case decided on a case by case basis and not through a blanket rule…
for the next five days there is nothing in my heart but hate. pure, untempered, ice-cold hate. fond memories are for saturday. - Kleph
by tempebamafan on Nov 23, 2009 2:24 PM CST up reply actions
Sounds like a case-by-case basis to me. The way I see the rule is this:
JoeBama makes a comment at RandomSECBlog. The moderator bans him because of his comment.
Todd bans JoeBama, not because of the comment, but because the comment caused the Moderator enough stress/strife/trouble that he believed it was worth a ban. This isn’t done in a vacuum. Todd knows these people and knows that, by and large, they are not banning people left and right for no good reason.
I'm wrong all the time.
“come to think of it, i haven’t been banned by any other SB nation blogs and i’ve posted at 9 others”
THAT IS MY POINT! Y’all can go anywhere and do anything you please and so long as the other site editors don’t have a problem with you, then neither do I! But if you act like a dick, then you stop being a problem for site X and become a problem for SBN as a whole! As a representative of SBN (and of the fanbase we represent in particular), I ought to do something to help my fellow site editors to keep their sites running smoothly, which is what I’m doing now.
Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.
by Todd on Nov 23, 2009 2:44 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Ironically in an effort to preserve the sites reputation I believe this entire thread has damaged it.
Most Valuable Participant 2009
and for that I apologize for even contributing to this thread.
Most Valuable Participant 2009
definately ...hey its a good problem to have
Most Valuable Participant 2009
I'll go ahead and throw my two cents in:
I think it’s a great policy, you know, the whole not-being-a-douche thing elsewhere. I try to be pretty cordial, usually, with other blogs when I go and visit (but let’s face it, I’m hardly a vicious rodent on RTT either, am I?) but I’ve been called a troll and/or an idiot before. Some people might (probably don’t) notice that after a tough loss I usually disappear, because I don’t like commenting with a belly wound, unless it’s something like “good game” elsewhere.
I’ll go ahead and admit that we have a few nuts over on RTT that yell at people who aren’t morons quite a bit too quickly, but from what I’ve seen bans usually are delivered in all fairness. You can generally pick up on if someone isn’t liking you, and if you get into a heated argument on another board that’s devolved into personal attacks you should probably chill out. Attack the team, but really, none of us know each other so let’s try to refrain from attacking the fans, other than, you know, the generic barbs like “the only reason any of you guys can read RTR is because you stole the textbooks before getting here” or whatever the silly case may be.
To expand on the RTT thing, the “troll-incident” really heated up earlier in the season, so when some Bama people came over to our place they were sniffing out a bit of a seething nest; most of you who are common visitors to RTT probably saw Hooper’s post regarding our over-harassment of some people, and also will likely note that we’ve chilled out, for the most part, on the undeserved snapping at people.
If you want to be a dick to Vol fans, try commenting over at Govols.com . It’s much more satisfying because most of those fans deserve it soooo much more.
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
The thing that irks me a little
is that all of this is done to protect the reputation of the mods, not the site. Asking us not to visit other websites because opposing fans might be offended? Next thing you know we’re gonna get “blackout times” when we aren’t allowed to post anything until the mods here allow us to.
Also, does this policy apply to everyone? If a Tennesee fan is banned from LSU boards, will he be banned here if he’s a “member” of RBR?
The way I see it, your job is make sure RBR runs well, not SBnation as a whole.
by HarveyBirdmanAAL on Nov 23, 2009 1:45 PM CST reply actions
That is the fly in the ink to me...
Is this only slanted at Bama fans who are apart of RBR?
Auburna delenda est!
is that all of this is done to protect the reputation of the mods, not the site.
The reputation of kleph, todd, and company is the reputation of RBR. If people think the common members of RBR are dicks, then they will think that RBR is just dickish. It might be flawed logic, but it’s a common enough fallacy.
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 1:47 PM CST up reply actions
You're so sweet!
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 1:49 PM CST up reply actions
It's a blog network
Part of Todd’s job is to make sure RBR runs well. Part of it is to help the network as a whole get better and one way to do that is to discourage people from being dicks on other SBN sites.
There’s no slippery slope here. Nobody is asking you not to visit other sites. Todd is saying: “Don’t be a dick.” where “being a dick” is defined by the host of whatever blog you’re at (just like it is in real life).
But, yes, it is to protect the mods, but that doesn’t mean it’s NOT to protect RBR. It is. Here’s the thing: if RBR develops a reputation for not tolerating trolls, we might get a little more leeway (on the reasonable sites) where people (at least their mods) will not automatically assume that posters from RBR are trolling.
A number of SBN blogs have had some issues lately with ‘Bama-fan commenters, and regardless of the fact that Todd has no control over what they post, that poor behavior still reflects back on this blog. Some of those trolls rarely, if ever, comment here. Some of them are regulars. But either way, that’s not something Todd wants RBR to be known for.
The reputations off Todd (as a blogger) and RBR are pretty firmly linked. If Todd starts going around to other sites being a d-bag, it’s going to make RBR look bad. If RBR members go around to other sites being d-bags, it’s going to make RBR and, by extension, Todd look bad. There’s no way to separate the two.
I'm wrong all the time.
See, I disagree
You said:
There’s no slippery slope here. Nobody is asking you not to visit other sites. Todd is saying: "Don’t be a dick." where "being a dick" is defined by the host of whatever blog you’re at (just like it is in real life).
Todd said:
it just means that its foolish for y’all to think posting at a rival site is a good idea. You should be aware of the fact that rivals instantly consider you an enemy and have zero desire to hear what you have to say, no matter how right and civil you are.
I can see where we’re going with this….
by HarveyBirdmanAAL on Nov 23, 2009 2:16 PM CST up reply actions
Can anyone who has posted on another site after that teams loses honestly say they expected no backlash?
That seems like common sense, and I can’t imagine anyone can answer yes to the above question.
Meanbobmean established a reputation with our blog before the sugar bowl, and that’s probably the only way he pulled off becoming a regular poster. Bobo has also been a frequent and welcome contributer, and the reason is pretty obvious. He has a good reputation here, and he doesn’t taunt. Granted we haven’t lost, but he still displays tact when discussing sore subjects.
Can’t we all just enjoy the meltdown post and use that to satisfy our needs? Why undertake the risk of abuse of other fans when we can enjoy their misery here amongst friends? No one gets banned, no one comes off as a jerk, and everyone is happy.
Also can we stop using “pete is a lawyer” as if it is a viable counter-argument? I’m not a law student, or pre-law, but that just offends me as a scholar.
"Behind every argument is someone's ignorance." - Louis Brandeis
by franchizeplaya on Nov 23, 2009 2:30 PM CST up reply actions
*team
"Behind every argument is someone's ignorance." - Louis Brandeis
by franchizeplaya on Nov 23, 2009 2:30 PM CST up reply actions
I try to keep my taunting
To the hate-week threads over at RTT. I love some good smack-talking, but -as is the point Todd is trying to make - it’s not so much fun to go to someone’s crib and dis his team in a crash manner, and it’s especially cruel to do it right after a heartbreaking loss. Trust me, I won’t come over here and laugh at ya’ll on December 6th. (See what I did there? ;-) )
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 2:33 PM CST up reply actions
I fucking hate strikethroughs.
Douche-throughs.
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 2:34 PM CST up reply actions
And you are entitled to do that.
Also, I will begin preparing your helping of crow for saying that ;-)
"Behind every argument is someone's ignorance." - Louis Brandeis
by franchizeplaya on Nov 23, 2009 2:41 PM CST up reply actions
I do think that Florida will win
But I’m saving my explanations for the week of, and it’s nothing like “OMG BAMA SUX!!!!11” — the teams are very, very even in my opinion, and I just give the overall edge to Florida.
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 2:43 PM CST up reply actions
That is a reasonable opinion to have.
I disagree, but I too will save that for the week of.
"Behind every argument is someone's ignorance." - Louis Brandeis
by franchizeplaya on Nov 23, 2009 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
I try to be the Voice of Reason.
(I crack myself up.)
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 2:49 PM CST up reply actions
The irony that name now carries is... fantastic.
"Behind every argument is someone's ignorance." - Louis Brandeis
by franchizeplaya on Nov 23, 2009 2:53 PM CST up reply actions
All it takes is a little reading.
He’s not saying “don’t ever comment anywhere else” he’s saying that it’s probably not a good idea. And if he’s talking about going over and talking about sensitive topics while the wounds are still fresh before you’ve established a reputation for not being a troll, he’s 100% right. You’re just asking for trouble if you do that.
Still, it’s simple. The rule is: don’t be a dick.
I'm wrong all the time.
+100000000000000 gotta look cool for your fellow blog buddies....."hey we run the tightest ship on the internet"...."u guys are so cool"
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions
I think you're the last person left in this thread
Who hasn’t made a valid point of any sort. Do you have anything to contribute besides weak sarcasm?
I'm wrong all the time.
Hey, now, Pete.
I mean, look, he can type his entire argument in bold. I mean .. wow .. that’s deep.
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
your last name is bobo....how are you not a clown
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 3:14 PM CST up reply actions
Actually
Generally when something is before everything else it’s considered “first” not “last”
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
I read why you picked that named on 3sib......
so are you that embarassed by your last name that you would like about it ? could have been krusty?
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
name , lie
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 3:17 PM CST up reply actions
I picked the name
Because my more normal internet screen-name is “bobo the bee” but I wanted to show some support to my Vols on a sports blog. When I’m feeling a bit more competitive I go with “bobo the blitz” — the original “bobo the bee” was a random thought I had when picking my first im screenname way back as a freshman in highschool. I wasn’t thinking about clowns at all when I made the name, but it’s easily punnable in hindsight. I really don’t care, it’s a unique identifier for me, which is all that really matters.
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
and you can make one hell of a balloon walrus
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 3:39 PM CST up reply actions
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
speaking of not contributing anything....the less time you guys spend trying to get the last word maybe the sooner we will have something to all read and discuss civiling...not that lil sis's post was not breathtaking
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
discuss more civily?(sp?
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 3:17 PM CST up reply actions
If you’ve got something that you think is worth posting, you can always do it as a fanpost.
Nah, who am I kidding. You’re probably all out of Nazi jokes.
I'm wrong all the time.
Pete count up the number of references to nazi, communism and add it up on your calculator and come back and well talk...
you think im really out of nazi jokes after 1 reference…
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
So what?
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 1:48 PM CST reply actions
Can
we talk about football now? lol haha
This upcoming season I'm gonna refer to Julio Jones as "The Magic Man" and Trent Richardson as "El Diablo"
by AlabamaTitans2009 on Nov 23, 2009 1:51 PM CST reply actions
You played UTC
Football has to wait until you play a real football team. So, another 12 days.
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 1:55 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Yeah
good point. lol
This upcoming season I'm gonna refer to Julio Jones as "The Magic Man" and Trent Richardson as "El Diablo"
by AlabamaTitans2009 on Nov 23, 2009 2:00 PM CST up reply actions
Wait
Alabama’s opponent this week is imaginary? Wow, so losing to them at home must have been REALLY embarrassing for you guys. How do you lose to a team that’s not even there? And yet the Vols managed. Remarkable.
I think you're missing the humor here.
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 4:23 PM CST up reply actions
some folks spoil the fun
just by trying to be part of it
"You have to create 6 seconds of hell each play..."
Coach Nick Saban
An Auburn fan came to talk trash to a Tennessee fan on a ‘Bama blog’s thread about not being a dick on another team’s blog?
How meta.
I'm wrong all the time.
Obviously
He should be banned from the interwebs.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 4:26 PM CST up reply actions
"As much as we don't like it when Barners or Corndogs come over here to stir things up"
uh… who doesn’t like it? I love it. Seeing Pete make Jumping Jack or whatever that Barner was eat his own words in the Eric Smith post was fantastic!
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
For realz guys..
You’d think with the Iron Bowl in 5 days, the SEC CG game in 12 and a possible birth in the NCG on the line, we’d have better things to talk about…
Auburna delenda est!
thisis interwebz iz crazy
36-0
"If wanting to win is a fault, as some of my critics seem to insist, then I plead guilty. I like to win. I know no other way. It's in my blood."- The Bear
true that I'm done reading this post
Its insane. I like the rule and have no problem with it because I’m a member of TET and ATVS only because I read them for content and saw a Bama fan show his ass and wanted to comment that everyone is not like that. Lets be like Ingram and let the talking be done on the field.
by chinesedentist on Nov 23, 2009 2:22 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
this post's origin...
…was to remind everyone that we are more respectable fans because we let our team “walk the walk” on the field and don’t have to talk bad about other fans’ teams on their blogs. Instead…OUR BLOG and OUR FANS end up bitching at each other for over 300 posts. Ridiculous, I say. The managers of this blog work hard to give us a place to catch up on our team, ask questions about things we don’t understand, and talk about the great things The Tide is doing on and off the field; so why can’t we just be respectful and do as they ask? It’s like 75% of the responses on this post just wanted to hear themselves talk! Let’s just all revert back to our universal commonality…that is…ROLL TIDE!!
"That's the process: Let's think about what we can do today, the task at hand."
-Coach Nick Saban
by pluckNgrit on Nov 23, 2009 2:33 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I just spent my entire public policy class reading this
And I’d like to throw out my two cents on it, what ever that worth. First, I don’t post on other sites and when I do visit them it pisses me off to see my fellow ‘Bama fans being asses and making themselves look like idiots. It gets to me because they aren’t just reflecting a bad image on themselves but Alabama fans as a whole. Sometimes I’ll notice that the bama fan doing ths is not a regular here at RBR, but when they are..it drives ms crazy. This is the finest College football blog on the Internet, in my opinion, and by act like an ass elsewhere it reflects badly on the wonderful community that Todd, Nico, Kelph and Pete have created for us here. Which leads me to my next point, the people coming here complaining about this new policy are out of line. This is Todd’s, along with the rest of the gang’s, blog. They write the fantastic post we are treated to on a daily basis, hell Todd sacrifices his stomach and dignity for our pleasure. Any rule that they decide to inact here should be respected without the hateful remarks some seem to be inclined to post. If our benevolent dictator, Todd, decides that it is reflecting his collegues and blog in a bad way, then it’s his right to punish you. It’s not out of line. So, instead of being ass and complaining about this new policy, just go out and be classy. If you are just incapible of not “trolling” then don’t visit the other sites…it’s that simple.
Roll Tide ladies and gentleman.
"I know in my heart that man is good. That what is right will always eventually triumph. And there's purpose and worth to each and every life." - Ronald Reagan
by batkinson on Nov 23, 2009 2:35 PM CST via mobile reply actions 8 recs
I'm all for rules of civility
and I think Todd can make up any kinds of rules he wants to for this blog, because it is ultimately his call. However, in my opinion, you can’t force morals on folks, and you can’t force people to play nice just because they’re a member of your blog. I don’t like people going on other blogs and giving Bama fans a bad name, but I know I can’t prevent it, either. This blog became great because it was laid back, informative, irreverant, and trustworthy. This rule does nothing to enhance the reputation of RBR, because, quite frankly, the trolls talked about above do no serious posting here.
I say, other moderators are smart enough, and capable enough to control their own blogs. Todd should keep spending his time worried about RBR, and not about some guy named “THE_BEAR_LIVES” posting crap on RTT or TET or ATVS or wherever. If I want to disagree with an Auburn fan on the TET site, then I am going to voice that disagreement. I don’t see why that should affect my abilitiy to enjoy RBR as well.
by HarveyBirdmanAAL on Nov 23, 2009 3:17 PM CST up reply actions
“you can’t force morals on folks” — no, but you can influence their behavior.
And sometimes the trolls at other sites are RBR regulars. Not always, but occasionally.
I'm wrong all the time.
Then deal with them directly
There can’t be that large a contingent of RBR regulars trolling on other sites. I think this entire topic was probably counterproductive. The folks that aren’t going to troll, aren’t. The ones that are, will always do that, because that is (sadly) what makes them happy. You don’t need a membership at RBR to be a bama fan, and you certainly don’t need one to make an ass of yourself on any other site. I guess it feels like you’re either preaching to the choir, or wasting your breath on those that won’t listen. Either way, it certainly gives credence to others arguments because they can’t point to this post and say “see, they’re so bad their own mods have to call them out”.
by HarveyBirdmanAAL on Nov 23, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Except
that this puts everyone on notice. It’s fair. Todd could have silently enacted this rule without any further comment on it, but it wouldn’t really be fair . . . at that point I would agree with some of the arguments that we can’t just hop on bandwagons and ban people for things we wouldn’t ban them for here, but since the rule is published and clear, I don’t see any problem with it.
I'm wrong all the time.
Argument over!
Pete doesn’t have a problem with it.
Apparently, that’s all it takes.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 4:21 PM CST up reply actions
thank you.
I don’t post much, but I read daily (I’m the woman in a football/hockey relationship, and he sometimes gets really tired of listening to me talk Bama LOL) and, very occasionally, I read some of the other sites, to get some perspective.
I’m born and bred Bama. My entire family is Bama. I cut my teeth on crimson and white. To me, Alabama has always epitomized class and the best of what college football, and sports in general, has to offer. I have also been disappointed with the behavior of some fans on other sites. I think I have posted a grand total of 2 times on rival sites, and both times I think my posts were conciliatory, trying to acknowledge the good points of the other team…even EGAD Tennessee. I think that is the classy thing to do.
Do I hate UT? Do I hate Auburn? Good grief, I organize my life around hating those guys. But I think I’m able to conduct myself as an adult and understand propriety. You don’t go into someone else’s house and pee on their couch. At least, not unless you want to wake up with a flaming bag of dog crap on your porch.
I laugh like an idiot at the meltdowns. I am fully aware that we would be front page on someone else’s site were we to lose. That’s the way it works.
Fandom is a wonderful thing, and our mutual competitive spirit in SEC sports is epic. I want it to be what it is, a bright and beautiful part of my life, instead of watching someone exhibit yet another reason to make an inbred redneck joke. I have heard plenty of them.
Todd et al make this a place that stands head and shoulders above other sites in terms of class. Let’s keep it that way. I respect any decision Todd makes to protect the reputation of the site because it’s his prerogative to do so.
Let Barners be Barners, and Corndogs be Corndogs. Let’s be what we are, the premier fanbase in collegiate athetics.
Roll Tide.
by Peyton on Nov 23, 2009 3:27 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
ok im sorry but seeing your
name makes me think of Peyton Manning and that just pisses me off..
Auburna delenda est!
by bammer on Nov 23, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I was about to say
“With a name like that, she can’t be so bad.”
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
To be honest...
I love Peyton Manning. He is absolutely hilarious and the greatest quarterback of this generation.
"I know in my heart that man is good. That what is right will always eventually triumph. And there's purpose and worth to each and every life." - Ronald Reagan
by batkinson on Nov 23, 2009 3:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
How dare you!?!?!?!?
I call for a banning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Auburna delenda est!
by bammer on Nov 23, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Peyton manning is the devil
Terrence Cody eats your field goal!
by Wallacewade04 on Nov 23, 2009 4:26 PM CST up reply actions
Man...
I can’t wait for Friday. This is the 2nd year in a row I’ve heard all this crap. Auburn fans trying to find the 1 pixel of sunlight in a black hole of a picture. If we turn the ball over 5 times they might have a chance to win. The gyrations their fans are going through right now to try to convince themselves this barn team can hang is laughable. Then they start talking about the tubby years and how we aren’t the best in the state. Piss on the barners! Roll Tide! and here’s to shutting those b4st4rds out again
Unrelated question
What is the reason for LSU fans being referred to as corndogs? I haven’t heard that one before.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 3:16 PM CST reply actions
I thought it was there colors
but someone told they smell like corndogs which i don’t get. There new unis for this weekend make them a gold plated corndog. I don’t know though
by chinesedentist on Nov 23, 2009 3:22 PM CST up reply actions
the new gloves for the new nike pro armor uniforms are absolutely sick!!!!
i hope we just get the gloves….anyone have a link?
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 3:23 PM CST up reply actions
speaking of which
do the teams have the ability to ‘respectrully decline’ being a part of the uniform experiment?
"You have to create 6 seconds of hell each play..."
Coach Nick Saban
I am pretty sure that Alabama has turned Nike down in the past.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions
If you're being directly sponsored by them
It’d be somewhat hard to, from what I’ve heard about how Nike is pushing these uni’s.
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
There was a post on here not too long ago, detailing how an Auburn student wrote about his visit to LSU. In his article for the Auburn paper, he said that everything smelled like corndogs there. The title has stuck, and remains something we borrowed from our annoying little brother.
*Smile*
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
here
"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim
by Thomas Walker Esq on Nov 23, 2009 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
shit, link fail
href=“http://fromthebleachersblog.blogspot.com/2006/09/lsu-fans-smell-like-corn-dogs.html” that might work
"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim
by Thomas Walker Esq on Nov 23, 2009 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
fuck it
just google “lsu fans smell like corndogs” i’m a moron
"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim
by Thomas Walker Esq on Nov 23, 2009 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
asshole
teh intranetz iz harde
"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim
by Thomas Walker Esq on Nov 23, 2009 3:44 PM CST up reply actions
neways guys as much fun as this has not been...
I will be back tomorrow in hopes of reading some bama material….if im not banned….rtr
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 3:19 PM CST reply actions
This might be a point some folks have missed / weren’t aware of, but… being banned doesn’t prevent you from reading the site, only from commenting on it.
So the week-long ban wouldn’t prevent anyone from doing anything but commenting.
I'm wrong all the time.
Also...
…the fact that I haven’t banned your annoying ass today should be more than enough evidence against the “OMG TODD IS A BLOGTATOR THAT JUST WANTS TO SHOW HIS POWA” arguments.
Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.
by Todd on Nov 23, 2009 3:47 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
you're gonna ban PETE? lol
rec’d cuz i see what you did there
"You have to create 6 seconds of hell each play..."
Coach Nick Saban
That...
…was directed at The Voice of Reason, not Pete. Just to clarify.
Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.
Trust me
I’m just as amazed as you are that the little “post” button still works.
I'm wrong all the time.
oh then what the hell have i been argueing about newayz? i hardly participate here in the 1st place....can we just bump that comment to the top and erase all my input
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 3:21 PM CST reply actions
jk i really do have a lot of respect for you guys and appreciate what you do for this blog....which everyone considers the best blog for bama....so the idea of us worrying over our reputation just caught me off guard
oh yeah and bobo you my friend are a clown….i can say that here but not at RTT =)
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 3:22 PM CST reply actions
I don't have a squeaky nose, though.
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 3:26 PM CST up reply actions
Alas, if only it weren't true :-(
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 3:29 PM CST up reply actions
Let's geat real for two seconds.
This is not anyone’s home. This is the internet. Part of football is talking shit. Part of the Internet is talking shit. If an RBR member “shows his ass” elsewhere, it’s not the equivalent of raising hell in a Barner’s living room. To insist that it is so is really just silly. The same goes for the notion that being an ass somewhere else reflects poorly on the admins of RBR. It only does so if you feel that way. Wouldn’t it make much more sense to say to your colleagues (or anyone, really), “Hey, that sucks, but every fanbase has it’s fair share of fuck-tards”? If you’re that easily embarrassed by other people, then grow a pair man.
And the idea of you enforcing other communities’ “standards” is ludicrous. Since Pete and others are so fond of analogies, consider this: Susie goes to Iran where she is caned for showing her midriff on the beach. When she returns to America, we cane her as well for violating the other “community’s” standards of decency. The same goes for someone who goes to TET and makes a post that gets him banned. Maybe the post is just “Good luck this week, hope no one gets injured!” but because he’s got something Bama-related in his username, he gets banned. Unless it offends RBR’s notions of decency, there really is no reasonable justification for an automatic banhammer. And circularly relying on “Mods said so” is also an appeal to authority and therefore a logical fallacy.
My point: “don’t be a dick” is good advice. But that’s all it should be. Elevating blogs, the Internet, and football communities to the status of our homes is silly. Equating our standards of decency to the standards of other communities is silly. Appealing to authority as a justification for policy is silly.
Give advice. Encourage good behavior. The good people will follow it. The bad people will not. And if other communities don’t like it, let them drop the banhammer all damn day. But back up off our jocks. We’re here to support you. If we want to disparage other people, that’s our prerogative. And if you get embarrassed by that, then you should really get your priorities straight. Like you said, this is a hobby. Stop treating it like a religion.
by Espyonage on Nov 23, 2009 3:26 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
Hear Hear!
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 3:28 PM CST up reply actions
+1 What he said
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
Speaking of silly...
It only does so if you feel that way.
Um, no. The reputation that a blog has with others is determined by what they think, not what you think.
Unless it offends RBR’s notions of decency, there really is no reasonable justification for an automatic banhammer.
Getting banned offend’s RBR’s notions of decency. If TET is the type of place where you can get banned just for having a pro-‘Bama username, then you probably shouldn’t post there with one.
And the idea of you enforcing other communities’ "standards" is ludicrous.
We’re not. Todd set a new standard for RBR. That standard is: don’t get banned anywhere else. You can post whatever you want on whatever blog you want, and if that blog’s mod doesn’t take issue, neither does Todd, regardless of what that blog’s stated policies are.
Susie goes to Iran where she is caned for showing her midriff on the beach. When she returns to America, we cane her as well for violating the other "community’s" standards of decency.
If America had a law that committing a felony abroad was a felony here, too, I’d support that.
Encourage good behavior.
What do you think Todd is doing? His encouragement involves bans.
If we want to disparage other people, that’s our prerogative.
And if Todd wants to ban you, that’s his.
Elevating blogs, the Internet, and football communities to the status of our homes is silly.
Unfortunately, parroting this doesn’t make it so. If more people behaved with the same level of respect on someone else’s blog as they would in that person’s living room, the internet would be a much more interesting and helpful place.
I'm wrong all the time.
What if hypothetical law was just created on a whim so Obama could look cool to North Korea....and yes I am comparing our rivals to N.K
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
If that was the system of government that we agreed upon,
I’d be living somewhere else, but I’d have no problem with the US doing it.
I'm wrong all the time.
It's a felony to have alcohol in Saudi Arabia...
just sayin’
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 3:44 PM CST up reply actions
i love hypotheticals
what if I wasnt hypothetically an ahole?
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 3:46 PM CST up reply actions
I notice, Pete
you did not copy and paste that last paragraph. I will:
Give advice. Encourage good behavior. The good people will follow it. The bad people will not. And if other communities don’t like it, let them drop the banhammer all damn day. But back up off our jocks. We’re here to support you. If we want to disparage other people, that’s our prerogative. And if you get embarrassed by that, then you should really get your priorities straight. Like you said, this is a hobby. Stop treating it like a religion.
by HarveyBirdmanAAL on Nov 23, 2009 3:51 PM CST up reply actions
So then you didn't copy and paste the last paragraph
just selected portions. Noted…..
by HarveyBirdmanAAL on Nov 23, 2009 3:55 PM CST up reply actions
I didn't copy and paste any entire paragraphs
do you have a point somewhere that you’re planning to get to eventually?
I'm wrong all the time.
see below
and thanks for supporting my point
by HarveyBirdmanAAL on Nov 23, 2009 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
I believe his point is "context is important."
But did you really have to facetiously elicit it like that? We both know you knew what he meant.
Don't ask me.
I think they were all important. :)
I also have to say
that it wasn’t so much Todd devoting an entire post to encouraging civility that has caused such a backlash, it was the manner the new banning rule was given and the tone you and Todd have taken to disagreement. You’ve been tickey-tackily responding to every single comment here, whether warranted or not. Todd acted like he literally came up with the new banning rule in a manner of seconds, and both of you are acting like the decency police came and deputized you for the day. Sort of like the time Andy came back to the Mayberry jail and everyone was in it. You made your rule, a lot of folks disagree with the banning part of it. If it’s such a great rule, just sit back and enforce it.
by HarveyBirdmanAAL on Nov 23, 2009 3:58 PM CST up reply actions
Ahh, there we go. Weak arguments having been dispatched, we start in on the ad hominems.
I didn’t make any sort of rule. I had no say in it. But I think it’s a great one. Not sure why so many people are so opposed to getting banned for being dicks.
As for the manner of the defense, it’s difficult to be sincere when the opposition is so willfully oblivious.
So again: do you actually have a point besides the fact that you think the mods are being mean to you?
I'm wrong all the time.
Geez Pete
My point is not hidden. I said that if it’s such a great rule, then it wouldn’t need this level of a defense. I don’t think Todd put a lot of thought into it, so I thought I’d question it, and will continue to question the necessity of such a rule. I made no “attack” on you or Todd, just made some comparisons to get my point across. Clear?
by HarveyBirdmanAAL on Nov 23, 2009 4:07 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah
Because Good Rules Never Ned To Be Defended
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 4:10 PM CST up reply actions
Flanders!!!!!
:shakes a fist:
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 4:10 PM CST up reply actions
Okay, I think we've officially lost perspective
Apples, meet oranges.
by HarveyBirdmanAAL on Nov 23, 2009 4:11 PM CST up reply actions
No
You’re saying that “if the rule were a good one, it wouldn’t need to be defended.” Or am I mistaken?
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 4:12 PM CST up reply actions
No
I am saying I could make the same argument about the Nazi’s rule of exterminating folks, but I think that would be out of place, no?
by HarveyBirdmanAAL on Nov 23, 2009 4:14 PM CST up reply actions
and both of you are acting like the decency police came and deputized you for the day. Sort of like the time Andy came back to the Mayberry jail and everyone was in it.
My mistake. I originally thought this sentence was about Todd and or I . . . I see now that it was, in fact, about the arguments that each of us had been making indepe…
actually, no, I’m pretty sure all this talk about how we’ve been “acting” is ad hominem by definition.
I'm wrong all the time.
Pete
you have always mis-used that term. If I’d said you were ugly (which you probably aren’t), so your argument is false, then I would be resorting to an ad hominem attack. Saying that people are objecting to your rule because of the manner you rolled it out, then that would be a comparison for arguments sake.
by HarveyBirdmanAAL on Nov 23, 2009 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
The thing is
That you’re saying the rule is bad because of the manner with which it was presented to you. The point is: don’t go around being a dick, and if you do go around being a dick then we’ll treat you like you are a dick.
Really, the rule itself is very straightforward and sensible, in my opinion. But when you say things to the effect of Pete and Todd are just doing this to be jerks, you’re attacking the character of the implementers to debunk the argument. — And before you say it, I’m not saying you have only used ad hominem in your argument.
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 4:19 PM CST up reply actions
Re-read
I said people objected because of the way it was presented to them. I think the rule is bad becasue it is unneccesary.
by HarveyBirdmanAAL on Nov 23, 2009 4:27 PM CST up reply actions
I still don't understand
Why, exactly, you think it’s unneccesary. ""Bloggers will be bloggers!!" isn’t really a strong enough defense, which is pretty much all I got from your post.
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 4:28 PM CST up reply actions
Well
I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree then. I think that unnecessary rules are never a good thing. Every blog can defend itself. It would be demeaning to me, as the mod of some other SEC blog to think that I would need the help of RBR to keep decorum in my own blog.
by HarveyBirdmanAAL on Nov 23, 2009 4:33 PM CST up reply actions
And the idea of you enforcing other communities’ "standards" is ludicrous. Since Pete and others are so fond of analogies, consider this: Susie goes to Iran where she is caned for showing her midriff on the beach
The thing is, I think the blogs on SBN all have acceptable “standards”. It’s different when you don’t agree with something, but what Todd is saying is that he does agree with and he does respect the rules of the other blogs.
The same goes for the notion that being an ass somewhere else reflects poorly on the admins of RBR
While it’s a fun notion to consider that the actions of those that are linked with you don’t reflect upon you, it’s stupid. You are judged by the company you keep. Aesop, man, Aesop!
This is not anyone’s home. This is the internet. Part of football is talking shit. Part of the Internet is talking shit.
It’s only that way because some people find the internet a place to talk shit without consequences, and really pretty much anyone who wants to indulge in an intelligent debate will tell you that’s a bad thing. If I wanted to act like a retarted vol fan I would comment on ESPN or something, not on Rocky Top Talk, which I enjoy because people don’t talk shit so much. Despite the fact that there are no serious consequences from acting like a fool online doesn’t mean that you should act like a fool.
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
why don't we have 472 comments
about Javier breaking the SEC Punt Return record on his way to special teams POW?
apparently not!
but it’s obvious that’s what it takes to get people fired up and talking in circles around here.
It got you here.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 3:43 PM CST up reply actions
To get people talking
You need something to talk about and typically you need some disagreement. What was there to discuss about Javy?
I'm wrong all the time.
want to create a thread that has a lot of comments?...easy.
Step A: Pick a topic that has forced you to take some sort of stand….sports related is best. If you can throw some sort of moral judgment call would be bananas…
Step B: Make some sort of outlandish stance that doesn’t make you sound like a complete tool and leaves room for debate.
Step C: Make sure PeteHoliday will be logged on that day.
If you use those simple steps, your thread will reach at least 100…
Auburna delenda est!
I skipped B
"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph
by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 3:51 PM CST up reply actions
You
Skipped the “contribute” part. ;-)
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 3:53 PM CST up reply actions
On this note:
I’d just like to express how little I care about someone breaking Hershel Walker’s all-purpose yard record when you get a ton of kickoff returns because your team sucks at stopping the other team from scoring.
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
Ha ha ha
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 3:43 PM CST up reply actions
or because your D
is so damn good that he returns more punts for TD’s than anyone…but as a UT fan, that’s probably not how you looked at it!
Still don’t see what you’re trying to say. Controversy breeds discussion. Pure statements of fact not so much.
I'm wrong all the time.
I agree 100%
when he said kickoffs, i said punts, thought a little controversy was forthcoming, but apparently he was talking about the “guy for Vandy”
Which is to say
If you go post a fanshot saying that Javy isn’t that big of a deal because he’s gotten his PR record on the back of a stifling defense, you’d probably get a lot of comments.
I'm wrong all the time.
He's talking about the guy for Vandy
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 23, 2009 3:45 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, no
Javy’s accomplishment is great. But Warren Norman can go suck on it.
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by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 3:46 PM CST up reply actions
26.5 ypr isn't great. Neither is 5.4 ypc.
Both are good, I get that, and Warren Norman is just that: “good”. But seriously, he’s had 40 returns this year, which places him at 5th in the nation in that respect. You want to talk about awesome kickoff returners, how about you look at CJ Spiller for Clemson, who has 3 touchdowns on 16 returns.
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by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 3:50 PM CST up reply actions
Herschel
Has 1600+ rushing yards as a freshman. Norman has 783. Warren Norman != Herschel Walker, and if one more Vandy fan tries to tell me that shit, I’m going to kill them.
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by bobo_the_vol on Nov 23, 2009 3:54 PM CST up reply actions
Only if you creat a new rule about posting about javy on other blogs
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by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 3:42 PM CST reply actions
?
If anything…isnt telling your members that its ok to say dumb stuff just come over here and say it and its ok, counterproductive….I mean how is concentrating more dumb comments on this blog going to help reputation?
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by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 3:45 PM CST reply actions
Because dumb comments
will get called out as dumb comments, and thus give us the opportunity, as a community, to demonstrate that we don’t agree.
See, e.g., the joke thread from a few weeks ago that contained like 30 comments of people basically saying “This isn’t funny.”
I'm wrong all the time.
ok so dont mind threads being run down with dumb comments as long as you can say ...that was a dumb comment...i get it ...finally i get it
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by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 3:48 PM CST reply actions
comment thread
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by The Voice of Reason on Nov 23, 2009 3:49 PM CST reply actions
1. We can’t really remove the Tide reference from douchbags usernames, so many of them give us a bad name, banned or not.
2. Anything to keep this from becoming al.com comment threads is fine by me. I wish a special type of nuclear hemorrhoids on sports-rival-comment-page trolls.
3. Auburn Eats Boogers. I read that somewhere.
by Alabama ManDance on Nov 23, 2009 3:50 PM CST reply actions
chinesedentist gave me the button
so that makes it true
"You have to create 6 seconds of hell each play..."
Coach Nick Saban
Somebody really poured salt in the wound
I was perusing ATVS after the Ole Miss loss.There was a Bama fun stirring it up about how they will never be nothing but second to Bama,and ho Saban will never return and he has a daughter at Bama who’s a freshman at UA and in a sorority there.
Thats nobodys fuckin business about Saban’s family’s personal life.but this ‘’Bama fan’’had to make that known.
These arguments are rucking fetarded
Just implement the damn policy. If people don’t like it, so what. I don’t like that I have to wear clothes out in public, but it’s the law and I do it.
One word, Todd – BANHAMMER BITCHES! (ok, two, but I didn’t want to confuse the aubies. See what I did there?)
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Hey, I'm the one who got banned.
And to be honest I was kinda surprised because I did not think what I wrote was that bad…at the time I wrote it I didn’t think it was all that bad…but then again I was not looking at it from an LSU fan’s point of view. And now looking back the turth is I should not have written it according to the rules so I feel it is their right to ban me if they want. And if because of being banned there if RBR bans me well that is their right too.
But I guess I take a different view of the whole subject. I love Bama and I hate it when we lose but I just don’t mind a fan from another team telling what they think. Rather than ban them I’d like to argue with them. And, I see the whole thing as just fun, even when we call each other out. But others take it seriously and so to hurt them is wrong. So, I recognize I was wrong to post what I did.
That doesn’t change the fact that Miles is still an idiot.
I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.
by 5026 on Nov 23, 2009 4:16 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
Final comment before the close button gets pushed...
Look, the policy is here now. Y’all might disagree about the way it was implemented, but that’s beside the point. All we’re asking is that you respect the rest of the SBN communities and don’t do anything to get yourselves banned. If that means just staying off of “sensitive” blogs that ban “for no reason” then stay the hell off of them.
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by Todd on Nov 23, 2009 4:40 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
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