A Quick Thought Regarding Third Down Defense
Editors Note: We discussed much of this on the Radio Hour-ish last night, but I wanted to get up the main points of the discussion in written format here.
While all of the attention has been focusing on the struggles we have had on the offensive side of the ball, particularly with the passing game, short shrift has been given to an issue lurking on the defensive side of the ball, namely third down defense. While it has generated very little (read almost zero) attention, third down defense has been a liability the past couple of weekends.
In the first six games of the season, our third down defense was nothing short of outstanding, holding opponents to a mere 19 of 79 on third down, i.e. 24% percent. The only team that generated any real success on third down against us FIU (41%), and once you factor out that game opponents were only converting on third down 19% of the time. Virginia Tech, Arkansas, and Ole Miss, for example, combined to convert only four third downs against the Tide.
Unfortunately, the past two weeks haven't been near as rosy. Despite consistently finding itself in third and long situations, South Carolina nevertheless managed to convert on 9 of 19 third downs, i.e. 47%. A week later against Tennessee, it was much of the same situation, with the Vols converting on 6 of 15 third downs, i.e. 40%.
So why has that happened?
First and foremost, we probably do need to look in the mirror a bit with our pass rush. Losing Dont'a Hightower is something we have yet to overcome, and it probably shows most on third down. Initially the role of replacing Hightower as an end in the Rabbit package went to Courtney Upshaw, and while Upshaw didn't necessarily play poorly, he really didn't make any plays either. He didn't register a single sack or tackle for loss against either Ole Miss or South Carolina, and for whatever reason he didn't really play against Tennessee (some people speculated he dinged a shoulder on a kick return). In Upshaw's place for Tennessee we saw Chavis Williams, who was really more of the same. Williams didn't necessarily play poorly, but again he didn't really make an impact either (as evidenced by his zero sacks and zero hurries).
Beyond that, however, there are a couple of other legitimate reasons for the struggles on third down. We have faced better competition in a sense the past few weeks, and credit should clearly be given to both Stephen Garcia and Jonathon Crompton. Both of those guys played well and made some very good throws on third down, and nothing here should be interpreted as to denigrate their performances. That was something that we really didn't have to deal with against the likes of Tyrod Taylor, Nathan Lane, Mike Hartline, or Jevan Snead. Furthermore, the absence of Javier Arenas against South Carolina clearly hurt as well. Tyrone King played well in Arenas' absence, but even so Arenas is a high-end cornerback and there was a drop-off in production in his absense.
Furthermore, without trying to come off sounding like a crybaby (read Lane Kiffin), for all of the talk of their being a 'Bama-Florida conspiracy with regard to the SEC officials, officiating has killed us the past three weeks. Ole Miss, South Carolina, Tennessee combined to throw 127 passes against us, and ran approximately 140 passing plays against us. Anyone care to venture on those 140 or so passing plays how many times one of those teams was called for holding? One time. One offensive holding penalty in approximately 140 passing plays. Unreal stuff.
For now, the biggest thing we can probably do to try to fix this -- aside from praying to the Football Gods that the SEC officials start being more strict on holding penalties against our defense -- is to improve the pass rush on third down. We've tried both Upshaw and Williams at the position, and it looks like we will possibly be changing things up more this weekend. Jerrell Harris has been moved back to outside linebacker this week, and he has been taking snaps as a defensive end in our long-yardage packages. Perhaps he is the answer, perhaps not, but we do need to get better in that regard.
Now obviously this is a very small sample size here, so hopefully this is just a statistical blip that we will take care of against LSU. Either way, it's a problem that clearly has to be fixed. P.J. Fitzgerald's almost complete and total inability to pin opponents up deep -- 25% of Fitzgerald's punts this year have ended in touchbacks -- mixed with our defense's inability the past two weeks to get off the field on third down has clearly hurt us in recent weeks. With LSU coming to town, featuring loads of elite playmakers at the offensive skill positions plus a legitimate dual threat quarterback, we need to find a solution before this weekend. In what figures to be a close game, it could be the difference between victory and defeat.
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this is a good observation. I too have just had a feeling the last two weeks that some 3rd down breaks went against us. It seemed like we would almost sack a QB or almost break up a pass or stop a guy just inches over the 1st down line or even when we stopped them then they would make it by inches on 4th down.
Not sure what the answer is but I’m glad we had a bye as it may help our guys be a little fresher. At the end of UT I saw some tired looking defenders.
And the lack of holding calls is really weird especially when you consider how many times guys have gotten free of their blocker and then been pulled from behind as they were going for a QB and no call.
I would say we have to be better getting off the field on Sat or we are in trouble. “Guns a blazing” just may mean more Arenas blitzes on 3rd down.
I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.
Additionally
Kareem Jackson has had some trouble covering slant routes (i.e. gotten beaten on some crucial plays). I certainly feel like he’s really stepped up this year, but those plays killed us in the last two games. Hopefully a week off will help in that regard, and having CNS at the helm doesn’t hurt either.
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Tennessee looked like they could've run the slant all day long on us...
We’re lucky they did not, although they tried more than anyone so far.
by crimsontsunami on Nov 5, 2009 7:53 PM CST up reply actions
Please excuse my blind homerism...
…but the failure of the officials to make holding calls has been muthaflippin’ pathetic.
That aside, I love Chavis Williams on 3rd and long. He’s not as strong as the other LBs, but he gets to the QB faster, and his potential has barely been tapped. Messers Harris and Upshaw are beasts, so I’m cool with whomever plays…as long as the refs make their calls (OK, I had to mention once more).
And OTS, you’s jes a mite hard on them thar kickers sumtimes….
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Nov 5, 2009 7:32 PM CST reply actions
Well...
And OTS, you’s jes a mite hard on them thar kickers sumtimes….
Well, maybe so, but the criticism of Fitzgerald is entirely justified here.
His raw average looks good, 42.4 yards per punt. But look at net punting… we’re averaging a net of only 33.4 yards per punt, and keep in mind we haven’t really struggled with punt return defense either. We’re 96th in the country in net punting because Fitzgerald keeps giving opponents 20 yards with touchbacks.
He has generally punted pretty well this year, but any time you step up and hit a 46-yard punt from your opponent’s 43-yard line, you’re killing your team, and Fitzgerald has literally done that about ten times this year.
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by outsidethesidelines on Nov 5, 2009 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah...
…I know, but it’s just kinda funny how you seem quick to knock Fitzgerald and Tiffin — who are both having career seasons thus far — when we’ve got a few guys who seem more deserving of criticism (not that I actually want to see more criticism of players…there just are some who are more deserving).
Don’t get me wrong, I know Fitzgerald had tons of room for improvement, and he still does; nevertheless, he is having his best year to date and has been less a liability than in seasons past.
I will give you credit for your ‘Dear Leigh Tiffin: I’m sorry. I’m just gonna shut up now’ (paraphrasing) that you put up after the UT game. That was class.
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Nov 5, 2009 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah...
… I agree that I’m generally rough on kickers, no doubt there.
But just out of curiosity, who do you think is more deserving of criticism?
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by outsidethesidelines on Nov 5, 2009 8:56 PM CST up reply actions
Houndstooth Twins
John Parker Wilson
That fat guy with Bear Bryant tattooed on his back
Verne Lundquist
BDS construction crew
UGA’s black helmets
The Crimson White
Ian R. Rapoport
Todd’s Taste of the Town
Michael Oher
Referees
Major Applewhite
and…
the Million Dollar Band
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by animalcracker on Nov 5, 2009 9:23 PM CST up reply actions
I think criticism of kickers...
is more readily deserved when you have ONE JOB to do. You don’t have to throw, pass, tackle, run, or block. You have to kick. Do your job. Do it well. And don’t lose a game for us. Six. Times. I will never forget that Arkansas game.
I've heard this argument...
…and I get it, but I ain’t buyin’. Comparing that ‘one job’ to the multiple tasks of other players sounds like comparing golf to boxing.
Let me put it this way…I can run, block, tackle, throw (and pass!)…these actions in and of themselves come pretty naturally. These jobs aren’t easy, but they’re not rocket science, either (though learning how to do those effectively in a given scheme can be).
Now, I can also kick…but it would take a great deal to consistently kick an oblong spheroid accurately and at great distances (not to mention if the snap and/or hold weren’t perfect, or the wind suddenly changed, or the field were wet, etc.).
If it were so easy, you’d think there would be dozens of people lined up on each team to take over when the previous stud graduated.
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Nov 5, 2009 10:31 PM CST up reply actions
Like I said...
…I don’t want more criticism of players, but I can think of at least one defensive starter and at least two offensive starters who fit the bill. Mind you, I don’t think any of them are doing poorly…but we’ve got a few whose performances have been more lacking than P.J.’s overall…and several who have done less than Tiffin.
And please understand, I respect your right to discuss it as you see fit. You’ve got a better football education than most of us do. I really just found it funny.
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Nov 5, 2009 10:13 PM CST up reply actions
I guess...
Bill Parcells used to have a quote that went something to the effect of:
If you were worth a shit, you wouldn’t be a kicker.
I guess that quote describes me pretty well. I’m probably more harsh on kickers than any other position, so it’s just natural for me I suppose.
Anyway, I wasn’t trying to bust your balls or understand, like I said it was just curiosity.
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by outsidethesidelines on Nov 5, 2009 10:30 PM CST up reply actions
I get...
…where Parcells was coming from with that quote. There’s definitely something odd about this sport that has Olympian gods battling back and forth all day long…only for the game to be decided by a guy who you could swear did your taxes for you last year.
As it is, though, it’s as integral to the sport as passing, running, blocking, and tackling. It’s also often (see the UT game) just as important. I’m thankful for the guys we have who have upped their games this year, even if they still have room to grow.
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Nov 5, 2009 10:36 PM CST up reply actions
Completely agree with OTS . . .
Fitzgerald is not helping his team with these boots that go into the end zone on the fly. Very aggravating. Just kick it out of bounds between the goal and the 20. These few yards can put a serious crimp in the opponent’s offensive playbook.
by M. Johnson Defender on Nov 6, 2009 1:34 AM CST up reply actions
I wasn't going to say anything...
but yeah, I’ve noticed the paucity of holding calls against our opponents on pass plays these last few weeks. For some reason, it never occured to me that Bama was being systematically victimized by a cabal of corrupt officials and, I don’t know, third world heads of state to further some socialist agenda. The fact that certain of our rivals in the conference think this way just shows what a sad gaggle of nancies they are. They deserve to wear orange.
As for our secondary, I am not worried about them. I am excited for them. It is true that Kareem Jackson was conspicuously hosed by UT on the slant, in the first half. In the second half, not as much. He and the rest of the secondary made the kind of adjustments one expects of smart, well-coached athletes. Make no mistake, we shut Crompton and Co. down. But for that fumble, they would have shuffled out of BDS with only a single FG to show for all their slants and blatant holds. This secondary of ours has the potential to be scary good. LaFell and Tolliver are going to get some catches but the guys covering them are going to make some plays too. I’m thinking the plays our CBs and Safeties make will be the difference in the game. It’s going to be a good day to wear the crimson. Roll Tide!
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Maybe I just don't get it...
I never trust a defensive back. When folks say “lockdown corner,” I get those butterflies in my stomach. Javy does a great job, but he can’t stop a perfectly executed pass play (precise route/throw, timed precisely). I’ve always been a “big ugly,” so I just get nervous every time I see the ball in the air.
I’d rather have an outstanding pass rush, though I realize all the pieces fit together.
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by animalcracker on Nov 5, 2009 9:54 PM CST up reply actions
it should be mentioned that while there is agreement here about the lack of holding calls
that’s not the same thing as saying we believe this necessarily is to blame for our performance. ots notes that opposing offensive linemen have been flagged just once in the last three games. three games where we have seen our third down efficiency drop twenty-dd percentage points.
nobody thinks a few more flags would bring our number back up to that high-flying figure we saw in august (particularly given the loss of hightower). but it clearly could help bumping that figure back far enough to give our offense one or two more series to get their mojo workin like before.
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