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Breaking: Clay Travis Still Hates Alabama

This afternoon, Clay Travis penned a thousand-word epistle over at FanHouse on the travesty being wrought on the educational system of the United States -- and the reputation of the entire Southeast -- by a reprehensible and abhorrent decision made by the University of Alabama this week.

Mr. Travis -- who you may remember as the ultra-classy "journalist" who used SEC Media Days as an opportunity to question Tim Tebow about his sex life -- is, apparently, incensed that classes will not be held from January 6-8 at The Capstone on account of the BCS National Championship Game.

When I read the piece, I knew it warranted a response, but my mind was swimming. Should I point out the ridiculously flawed logic of linking the number of statewide degree-holders to three days of class at one of the state's many universities?

Should I marvel at the fact that, apparently, Mr. Travis believes that babies today come out of the womb not only capable of running, but of running a 40-yard dash in 4.4 seconds?

What of the assertion that, somehow, a degree from Vanderbilt is worth less because classes aren't being held for a couple of days in January at a university hundreds of miles away?

Should I point out the absolute lack of analysis as to the number of days of class at Alabama and how that compares to other schools and whether or not these three days amount to a hill of beans in all that? Or maybe the fact that these three days fall squarely in the middle of the add/drop period and, therefore, won't prevent anyone from modifying their schedule?

I could also discuss how Alabama's football graduation rate is one of the best in the SEC and if the football team can graduate at that rate despite missing some class for games, that it's probably not such a huge deal to other students, either. Or note that UT's football graduation rate is more than 14% lower and talk about that age-old adage of glass houses.

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Maybe I should point out to Mr. Travis that his sainted alma mater doesn't start class until the 13th of January (more than a week after Alabama) and only finishes finals a few days ahead. 

No. While the list of patently absurd claims, generalizations, and crimes against statistics goes on, I realized that I was really giving Travis's ranty screed far, far too much credit.

The bottom line, as it turns out, is that this has nothing to do with some sort of educational or moral imperative to have class on January 6th, 7th, or 8th. It's not about some "message" that the University is allegedly sending.

Not a single person is harmed by a school taking a few days off to celebrate the accomplishments of the football team. Or our former presidents. Or Martin Luther King. Or the pilgrims and Indians. Or Casimir Pulaski. Professors who feel wronged will simply assign work for the extra days off. Students are not being prohibited from studying on those days, they're simply being excused from classes so that they can celebrate something most students over the past two decades at Alabama haven't gotten a chance to see . . . it might as well be a blizzard.

Coming as a surprise to absolutely nobody, though, is that Mr. Travis doesn't have any relevant data. He doesn't have any solid arguments. All he has is a bunch of outrage over . . . some slight modifications to an academic calendar.

Really, Clay, cry us a river already.

His article is a perfect example of a blogger with a bias, a bullhorn, and a soapbox to shout from who simply cannot stand the fact that a school he hates will be playing for a BCS title.

It's an object lesson in class warfare. He can't stand the fact that some trust-fund babies are going to get an all-expense paid trip to a far-off and glamorous destination and get to party for an extended weekend on their parent's dime.

It's a classic illustration of a self-loathing southerner looking for any excuse to help tear down an entire region of the country in the name of defending it.

We're not talking about some earth-shattering, ground-breaking administrative decision here. It's half a week of classes out of 4 years of schooling, given during a time of the year when classes and schedules are still being formed and a healthy number of other universities still have yet to return to class after winter break.

It's not a referendum on education vs. athletics. It's not a prohibition on learning. It's not a scaling back of the academic goals of the students, professors, or university at large. It's just a school he hates celebrating success he wishes they didn't have.

And his article is just another delusional, ignorant fan, blinded by rivalry, attempting to make a mountain out of a molehill.

Or, as we would say in Alabama: goin' off half cocked and squealin' like a stuck pig.

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As a professor at UA I take only slight offense to that

The issue is that student’s still can’t seem to comprehend the course policies.

In regards to the break, I think it is a good idea. After all it was former President Denny that first decided to build a strong football program in effort to promote the fine university.

I wouldn't piss off the boys from Alabama . . . DBT

by I hate UT on Dec 10, 2009 7:51 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll also add

I have heard no grumbling from the faculty.

I wouldn't piss off the boys from Alabama . . . DBT

by I hate UT on Dec 10, 2009 7:53 PM CST up reply actions  

It wasn't that way...

…for me as a grad student, but in undergrad. Sheesh.

by Nico2.0 on Dec 10, 2009 7:59 PM CST up reply actions  

To be fair,

no, that’s not what happens in my classes now that I’m in Grad School. But grad school also comes with a certain amount of increased independence – you get those days off, but you’re still expected to be in contact with your professors, read the material, and get an idea of what’s going on in the class. So I’ll be missing two classes, but it’s not like I’m getting “freebies”, and I’m not expected to do the work/learning required of those classes.

by billycthulhu on Dec 10, 2009 8:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Rec'd

Seriously, that’s always what the 1st day of class is.

by Bama philosophe on Dec 10, 2009 7:38 PM CST up reply actions  

You didn't take my classes then.

"Hollywood made a movie of my life. The film had me proposing to my wife on the football field. I would never misuse a football field that way." -Crazy Legs Hirsch

by Stuck in the Plains on Dec 10, 2009 7:58 PM CST up reply actions  

hmmm

So the Harvard University schedule, which I’m somewhat familiar with, reads as follows for the 2010 spring semester:
Jan 25 – classes begin
Apr 30 – classes end
May 14 – exams end

The University of Alabama schedule now reads as follows:
Jan 11 – classes begin
Apr 26 – classes end
May 12 – exams end

As the world’s #1 ranked university, Harvard has shamed our entire planet.

by Matt Dover on Dec 10, 2009 6:33 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Studies have clearly shown...

..the more time you spend in class, the smarter you are.

by Nico2.0 on Dec 10, 2009 6:36 PM CST up reply actions  

sutdies have also shown...

that if you go to Harvard..theres a good chance you’re a tool.

"The goal is to be a champion," Saban said. "I didn’t say to win a championship. I just said be a champion. That’s our goal here. That’s what we want to do."- Nick Saban

by bammer on Dec 11, 2009 11:07 AM CST up reply actions  

I think he hates both teams

He wrote this gem yesterday:

Going up against Nick Saban, Mack Brown is going to get exposed. Really utterly and completely exposed for the sideline coach that he is.

(Though I’m sure y’all agree with that one.)

If his goal is to infuriate fan bases and get the clicks to his articles which follow, he’s doing a good job.

by Hopkins Horn on Dec 10, 2009 6:41 PM CST reply actions  

Yesterday's "writing"

took shots at damn near any and everyone. He’s Greg Doyell in puke orange.

"Hollywood made a movie of my life. The film had me proposing to my wife on the football field. I would never misuse a football field that way." -Crazy Legs Hirsch

by Stuck in the Plains on Dec 10, 2009 7:59 PM CST up reply actions  

What else do they want the univesity to do?

No one is going to go to class who is going to the game, so they will miss 3 days of classes instead of the university using up a ‘snow day’ to ensure no one has to miss. Also missing the first two classes will force you to drop most classes, and if you go to the game, you won’t be able to make it if you have a MWF class.

by Bozeman on Dec 10, 2009 6:44 PM CST reply actions  

Seems like...

Clay Travis is pulling a Brian Cook. Writting anything he can to try and take the attention away from the shit storm at his beloved university.

by sixfoot7 on Dec 10, 2009 7:07 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

wasn't there somthin in the news about tennessee and recruiting violation allegations?

gee i cant remember….

for the next five days there is nothing in my heart but hate. pure, untempered, ice-cold hate. fond memories are for saturday. - Kleph

by tempebamafan on Dec 11, 2009 1:44 AM CST up reply actions  

oh that...

just a media over-reaction, nothing to see here.

Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.

by kleph on Dec 11, 2009 6:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Wow... just, wow...

Looking at these two articles back-to-back makes you really wonder how anyone but the most blatant tennessee homers can listen to the dreck this guy puts out.

by billycthulhu on Dec 11, 2009 12:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Reasoning fail...

Clay Travis always likes to mention the fact that he was an attorney or something, maybe this is just another piece of evidence that explains why he’s a proficient and controversial (yet marginally talented) lawyer.

by Bama philosophe on Dec 10, 2009 7:40 PM CST reply actions  

I'd love to see him at the other table...

Judges do not like confrontational douchebags; juries even less so.

"Hollywood made a movie of my life. The film had me proposing to my wife on the football field. I would never misuse a football field that way." -Crazy Legs Hirsch

by Stuck in the Plains on Dec 10, 2009 8:00 PM CST up reply actions  

i'm just a bama dropout.

so i’ll try not to make him feel any more inferior than absolutely necessary.

Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.

by kleph on Dec 10, 2009 8:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Dropouts

UNITE!

Lee Corso: How would you describe tailgating at Alabama?
Kirk Herbstreit: Barbecue and Ralph Lauren

by animalcracker on Dec 10, 2009 10:00 PM CST up reply actions  

spent a good portion of my early college life

were taken at the old stripmall Shelton St. campus.

good times

I'm in no condition to drive...wait! I shouldn't listen to myself, I'm drunk.

by That Other Dave on Dec 11, 2009 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

me too

i even worked at Bonnie & Clydes for a while….(i know, i’m really telling my age again)

"You have to create 6 seconds of hell each play..."
Coach Nick Saban

by LittleSis on Dec 11, 2009 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

that was that bar

in the Ho-Jo or whatever? I’d been known to have a drink or two there.

I'm in no condition to drive...wait! I shouldn't listen to myself, I'm drunk.

by That Other Dave on Dec 11, 2009 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

it was in the strip mall too

"You have to create 6 seconds of hell each play..."
Coach Nick Saban

by LittleSis on Dec 11, 2009 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

He likes to flaunt his Vandy education...

Even he was too good for his beloved University.

by AThomas77 on Dec 10, 2009 8:47 PM CST reply actions  

just some dbag

for the next five days there is nothing in my heart but hate. pure, untempered, ice-cold hate. fond memories are for saturday. - Kleph

by tempebamafan on Dec 11, 2009 1:45 AM CST up reply actions  

haha

i actually know who he is. my point was “who gives a shit?”

that being said, you’re description is dead on.

by gerry dorsey on Dec 11, 2009 7:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Wait....

Tebow’s presence didn’t have a positive effect on graduation rates?

And, boy, have we really turned things around. That graph is pretty telling.

Lee Corso: How would you describe tailgating at Alabama?
Kirk Herbstreit: Barbecue and Ralph Lauren

by animalcracker on Dec 10, 2009 9:39 PM CST reply actions  

UAH(untsville)

Starts classes after UA starts them this Spring. They finish classes before UA this Spring.

Universities run their own programs, Clay Travis just runs a bunch of hotdogs into his bung.

Roll Tide! Beat the Gators!!!

by BamaDixi on Dec 10, 2009 9:58 PM CST reply actions  

Tim Tebow

Regarding an earlier column of his this week, about how they media can target female University EMPLOYEES of Tennessee becoming media targets as the result of an NCAA INVESTIGATION regarding the wooing of recruits.

Well, I guess its alright for you to ask Tim Tebow if he’s a virgin, but god forbid the media to ask if UT’s employees have done anything untoward in the recruitment of athletes. Hypocrite.

by Bobby Briggs on Dec 10, 2009 10:51 PM CST reply actions  

Does anybody have a photo of Clay Travis?

Because I would like to punch that douchebag in the face if I ever run into him on the street.

(I’ve wanted to do that for a long time before this article anyway. Same for Kevin Scarbinsky, but I already know what he looks like.)

-D.

by DMaguire27 on Dec 10, 2009 10:56 PM CST reply actions  

I hate to display two douches with one post, but...

Hopefully that other guy makes it big.

Lee Corso: How would you describe tailgating at Alabama?
Kirk Herbstreit: Barbecue and Ralph Lauren

by animalcracker on Dec 11, 2009 7:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, yeah...

CT is on the far right.

Lee Corso: How would you describe tailgating at Alabama?
Kirk Herbstreit: Barbecue and Ralph Lauren

by animalcracker on Dec 11, 2009 7:12 PM CST up reply actions  

christmas came early this year

kick his f-in ass C Bass!!! err Pete

for the next five days there is nothing in my heart but hate. pure, untempered, ice-cold hate. fond memories are for saturday. - Kleph

by tempebamafan on Dec 11, 2009 1:35 AM CST reply actions  

Silly Aticle

From Clay, who is usually much, much better than this. I know he holds respect for Alabama as a team, and has respect for the coaches — or he’s stated such several times in the past — but he was off-base with this one, by a lot.

I like the move by Alabama, personally. But, uh, OMG U ALL CH33T!!!!11 or w/e.

Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!

by bobo_the_vol on Dec 11, 2009 3:26 AM CST reply actions  

There was a time when I thought he columns were decent

but over the years as he has gained marginal fame he has really let it go to his head. The Tebow question this summer was typical of the type of “look at me! look at me!” attention-ut hostess Travis has become.

by UAinPHOENIX on Dec 11, 2009 11:39 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't follow you

The easter bunny is real, at least relative to Travis’s talent.

by UAinPHOENIX on Dec 11, 2009 2:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Besides ...

Pete should know someone with a bad argument when he sees one: he is, after all, a lawyer ;-)

Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!

by bobo_the_vol on Dec 11, 2009 5:08 AM CST reply actions  

i think I read some where that Pete was a lawyer

God I love how this story just has grown. I will probably start believing he is one before to long.

by chinesedentist on Dec 11, 2009 10:13 AM CST up reply actions  

could this be

the 1st time in RBR history that everyone agrees with Pete? I’m taking the day off to celebrate!!

"You have to create 6 seconds of hell each play..."
Coach Nick Saban

by LittleSis on Dec 11, 2009 6:47 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

I think the only disagreement...

…is whether Travis is a douche bag, an ass clown, and/or both.

Offense sells tickets. Defense wins games. - Paul W. "Bear" Bryant

by TheRedTideConsumes on Dec 11, 2009 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Travis is the embodiment of the term "Ass Clown".

What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.

-Hank Hill

by Zoltar on Dec 11, 2009 8:07 AM CST reply actions  

and for the record...

Tuscaloosa city schools will not be shutting down due to the National Championship game. I think it seems a little more likely that the actions of the secondary schools will have a greater impact on the key piece of evidence travis is using to bolster his flimsy argument.

he avers that: “If you’ve ever wondered why the state of Alabama ranks 44th in percentage of college graduates at 20.6 percent, it’s decisions like this one.

now i’m nothing but a ’bama dropout but even i can identify this as a straw man fallacy. the problem at the statewide level is getting students into college at a greater rate rather than what happens to them once they are there.

but, what the hell, i’ll play along. if – as travis seems to conclude – the actions of the university sets a bad example for the education of alabamans then strong stance of the public school system in this case would seem to make a strong counter argument to his claim. but i’m not holding my breath for a follow up or retraction.

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by kleph on Dec 11, 2009 8:35 AM CST reply actions  

UT (Texas) isn’t in session at that time or they might consider shutting down.

Where does TN rank in percentage of college grads? Someone should ask Travis to look that up.

by dimecoverage on Dec 11, 2009 7:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Because...

…completing a full semester’s work in LESS time is way easier.

Lee Corso: How would you describe tailgating at Alabama?
Kirk Herbstreit: Barbecue and Ralph Lauren

by animalcracker on Dec 11, 2009 7:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Hypocrite

He accuses the media of making something out of nothing about the ‘Orange Ride’ then does the same exact thing he’s bitching about.

I’m not really familiar with this guy, but for some reason, UT fans respect his opinion, but a media member that would ask ANY college athlete about their sex life with mics on and cameras rolling (at SEC media days, no less) and embarass everyone in the room, has ZERO credibility.

The only exception would be that sex-offender rapist Daniel? whatever that UT signed to a football scholarship.

by yellowhammer on Dec 11, 2009 9:22 AM CST reply actions  

Is Alabama also prepared to alter the academic calendar for the Kappa Sigs?

Of course not Clay. They aren’t old row. Duhhh.

I'm in no condition to drive...wait! I shouldn't listen to myself, I'm drunk.

by That Other Dave on Dec 11, 2009 11:36 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

I've read Clay Travis..

…from the time he started writing and was shocked that I enjoyed what he wrote as much as I did considering he’s a die hard UT fan. It’s been fairly obvious that from the outset he’s been fascinated by the career that Finebaum has built for himself.
IMHO, he’s not only trying to distract from the train wreck that is UT football but also trying to make himself into a Finebaum like character on a national level. From the time he started writing for AOL fanhouse he’s gone after everyone, and I don’t think he really believes half the crap that he writes, but is just trying to establish himself as a controversial writer. I used to like him and have some for respect him, but now think he’s just another douche bag trying to make a buck by pissing off the poulation at large.

by sixfoot7 on Dec 11, 2009 12:12 PM CST reply actions  

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