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Should Alabama Basketball Play a Game Annually in Birmingham?

In this fanpost about the Alabama vs. Purdue basketball game, attendance at the game was something brought up...as is often the case with our basketball program. Coleman Coliseum holds 15,316 and 12,477 were on hand to see us play the (at the time) #5 team in the country. That's roughly 81% full to see us take on one of the best in the land. We're unquestionably a football school with everything else being way behind as far as the level of attendance (I'm talking percentage of capacity here as nothing can obviously compete with football numbers-wise) and the level of intensity.

Since Alabama's football playing days in Birmingham are over, it makes me wonder if they should perhaps dedicate themselves to playing a basketball game in Birmingham on an annual basis since there's a lot of history between the University and Birmingham. Obviously, you'd keep all of the conference games in Tuscaloosa at Coleman Coliseum, but considering that Tuscaloosa more or less turns into a ghost town during the winter break, it seems like moving a game against a marquee opponent to the BJCC might be worth looking into. There's obviously a much bigger population base in Birmingham and it probably isn't too expensive or cumbersome to get the team to the Magic City from Tuscaloosa. The BJCC holds 17,654 for basketball games, which is, admittedly, too large for our program, but if you're going to have a bunch of empty seats anyway, might as well mix it up and do some "local barnstorming." Perhaps they could make it a big annual event for the local alumni society or something.

I know this is out of left field and I know neither party would ever go for it, but it'd be pretty awesome to have an annual game at Bartow Arena (capacity of just over 8,000.) That place gets absolutely rocking during games since it's so small and even on the last row of the arena you feel like you're on top of the action. Anyway, now back to reality...

I looked back at the last 10 years or so to see the attendance of games in the month of December (and early January) against "name opponents" to see if the idea was worth exploring:

03 JAN 2009: 9,988 for Georgia Tech (65% capacity)
13 DEC 2008: 9,316 for Texas A&M (61% capacity)
01 JAN 2008: 9,316 for Clemson (61% capacity)
01 JAN 2007: 11,538 for Oklahoma (75% capacity)
22 DEC 2005: 10,621 for North Carolina State (69% capacity)
11 DEC 2004: 11,751 for Temple (77% capacity)
30 DEC 2003: 10,714 for Wisconsin (70% capacity)

For some reason, attendance numbers weren't available for a home game against Providence in the early 2000s, nor for the game in Birmingham against Georgetown a few years ago (the box score on RollTide.com lacks the attendance figures and the box score on Georgetown's site doesn't exist.) Oh yeah, it's not a typo on the Texas A&M and Clemson attendances being identical, I checked it multiple times. Admittedly, this is a small sample size and some data is missing (no attendance figures for 01-02, 02-03 seasons), but we're not even cracking 2/3 capacity on some of these games. I know some of that had to do with people's frustration over Gottfriend's coaching, and some probably had to do with games being played on New Year's Day, but the numbers aren't what they could be. I'm very much in the camp of the games should be on campus and for the students, but since they're playing when school's out of session, why not move one to Birmingham once a year?

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Should Alabama basketball play one game a year in Birmingham when school is not in session?
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Students go to bham for less

If we really want the state fired up about basketball we have to get bham residents to go to games, and enjoy going enough to go to tuscaloosa later.

by Bozeman on Dec 14, 2009 7:17 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I should also mention...

…that I didn’t include the data for the 2004 game against Notre Dame because 1) school was still in session I think and 2) that was the rededication of Coleman and therefor not a representative piece of data.

Also, there is precedent for playing games in Birmingham and it should also be noted that they’ve played quite a few games in Mobile in recent years.

by Nico2.0 on Dec 14, 2009 7:20 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Can't hurt

And as someone who works in live events, SID’s (and anyone else for that matter) will report anything for attendance. Well, anything over, never under. I’ve seen 10,000 reported as 14,000 but never seen 10,000 reported as 8,000.

by Bobby Briggs on Dec 14, 2009 7:22 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

If Bama

is going to play in Birmingham, it should have the testicular fortitude to UAB there every other year.

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by Bama Hawkeye on Dec 14, 2009 7:40 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I should say...

…I agree to a point. I think we should play UAB every year. It’d be a massive game on both campuses. I still don’t think that should preclude us from playing other teams in Birmingham.

by Nico2.0 on Dec 14, 2009 7:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think 15,000

for Purdue is awesome considering school was out, it was graduation, and Ingram was on TV.

As far as B’ham- it has to be a name school. Purdue is great, or Tech or OU, etc. but the problem is right now we probably only play one or maybe 2 name schools a year in T-Town. I can’t see us giving one of those to B’ham. Playing ULM or Jack St. in B’ham would be a bust.

UAB every year would be awesome but don’t look for it.

I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.

by 5026 on Dec 14, 2009 8:09 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Well...

…Birmingham got Georgetown last year and Mobile got Kansas State this year.

by Nico2.0 on Dec 14, 2009 10:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Biggest problem

with the coleman set up is how they have the students crammed into that corner section

by The Beard on Dec 15, 2009 9:21 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I think it’d be cool to play in Bham, but Nico, you better get all you’re Magic City bammers out. After watching the game Saturday, I really think Grant is gonna give us a fun team to watch.

Also, not sure if there is any precedent for it, but why don’t they move people up in the stands for the TV after the game has been on a while? The Purdue game looked emptier on TV than in person because so many people in the good seats didn’t show up.

by Alabama ManDance on Dec 15, 2009 9:55 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I think it’d be cool to play in Bham, but Nico, you better get all you’re Magic City bammers out.

That’s why i was saying to tie it to some kind of alumni association event. Maybe even make some kind of family day or something out of it to get the arena packed. As a kid, I didn’t like basketball because it was one of the few sports I was terrible at when playing it. I didn’t want to watch it because I was so bad at it. My family took me to games though and I eventually developed a bit of love for it and now even go on my own sometimes.

by Nico2.0 on Dec 15, 2009 10:14 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Eh

I don’t mind Bama playing in B’ham, at Bartow or the BJCC, but I just don’t want it to be against UAB. I went for UAB against Bama once, in the ‘90s, and that was enough. Like, when I covered South Carolina basketball, I got to really like the guys on the team. Then Bama came to town. Both teams were pretty good, and it went to overtime. I forget which team won (I think it was Carolina), but I didn’t feel elation or disappointment, which sucks. Sports fandom is about irrationally caring about the outcome of the game, and having irrational emotions about it.

by Wes Wolfe on Dec 15, 2009 9:19 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

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