Welcome Texas Fans!
by kleph on Dec 7, 2009 9:15 AM CST
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Thank you, Coach Royal. You are a gentleman and scholar of the highest caliber.
A number of folks who wear the burnt orange on a regular basis and without a shred of irony have appeared on our humble little blog over the last day or so. Quite a few of them have come from fellow SB Nation blog for all things Texas Burnt Orange Nation. We here at Roll Bama Roll would like to welcome you all and hope you choose to stay awhile.
Both football programs boast a formidable amount of tradition, pride and, most importantly, respect for the game as well as their opponents. As much as we want to be the one that emerge victorious on Jan. 7, it's important to remember that what we have in common is much more important that what divides us. The next month is a fantastic opportunity for both sides to learn a bit about each other in a way we may never have a chance to ever again.
And if ever our tempers get frayed we, as Alabama fans, must keep in mind that we owe Texas a debt of gratitude on a scale difficult for us to ever repay. Because in 1970, Coach Bryant traveled to Austin and Texas head coach Darrell Royal was kind enough to explain the intricacies of his Wishbone offense to him. That fueled Bryant's career resurgence and, arguably, paved the way for three of the National Championship titles we now claim as our own.
So welcome, Texas fans. And Roll Tide!
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Sometime in the next month...
…can we get a write-up on great moments in Tex-abama Football History? When I expressed a desire to play Texas since we had never beaten them, an older gentleman on the MARTA after the game said “Well, not officially. Joe Willie made it in twice and they wouldn’t give it to him.” So, if anyone else is interested, I’d like to see something on that 1965 Orange Bowl and other such moments.
There are...
…no great moments in Texas-Alabama football history, since we’ve never won…only decent moments….
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Dec 7, 2009 3:04 PM CST up reply actions
SEC replay officials certainly would have gotten it right
Seriously, though, thanks for the welcome to us proud wearers of burnt orange.
To reflect the sentiments of the OP, I too am thrilled about this match-up. When I think of true college football royalty, Alabama is one of the very few programs which comes to mind. I am so glad that I will have an opportunity to hang out and chat with Bama fans before the game rather than the jort-wearers from Gainesville.
I’ve actually had a chance to see a lot of Alabama — and when I say a lot, I mean a lot. Last fall, a project for work took me to all 67 counties in Alabama over the course of a 10-day period in the middle of football season. (I started my own architectural stock photo business last year, by way of explanation, and I picked Alabama as a test-case for such thorough treatment more or less at random.) And I have to say that I was stunned, in a very pleasant way, to see the depth of support the Crimson Tide had throughout the entire state. I don’t think I have ever witnessed such deep and visible support for any team, pro or college, anywhere. I had expected more of a split with Auburn, but other than a narrow pocket near their campus, support for Auburn statewide was virtually nonexistent. (Would I have noticed differently had I visited at a time when Bama was struggling and Auburn as #2?)
And as I made the trip right after Texas had ascended to #1, leapfrogging Bama after our victory over the evil crimson-wearers, I of course was wearing my Longhorn gear everywhere. Not a negative word was said my way, and I actually received quite a few kind words and wishes that we’d meet in Miami. Alas it was not to be, but a year later and here we are.
I should also say that, in my travels throughout the country (all 50 states in the last 15 months), the one little non-work-related site-seeing treat I generally give myself is that I’ll go out of my way a bit to visit colleges and, more specifically, major conference college stadiums. I’ve seen a lot of campuses and a lot of stadiums, some I liked and some I disliked (FSU’s was surprisingly disappointing), but none I liked better than Alabama’s campus and the setting for games at Bryant-Denny Stadium. If Hollywood were to create an idyllic setting for college football, all that would need to be done would be to transport film crews to Tuscaloosa. Alabama has long been at the top of my list for a dream home-and-home series.
Oh, and Dreamworks BBQ, particularly the original location in Tuscaloosa, gets a thumbs-up from this Texan.
So even though I am simultaneously excited, confident and scared as hell about the match-up on the playing field, I am looking forward to the build-up to the game much more than I would have been had we been playing virtually any other team.
So Hook ’em, and good luck next month!
by Hopkins Horn on Dec 7, 2009 10:20 AM CST up reply actions
i recently discovered that wim wenders plopped a couple homages to him in his classic 1984 film Paris, Texas. it’s coming out on a new restored version in january. you should definitely check it out.
Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.
When a Texan gives the thumbs up to your BBQ
Dreamland (I assume he meant) must be doing something right.
"The only way to improve relations with Auburn is to beat them a few times. " 5026's Mom
by LifelongBammer on Dec 7, 2009 6:59 PM CST up reply actions
of course he liked our bbq
Texas bbq is utter garabage; these fools actually bbq cows and use sweet tomato-based sauces
"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim
by Thomas Walker Esq on Dec 8, 2009 12:29 AM CST up reply actions
What can I say . . .
. . . it was good stuff from one of the lesser 49! :)
by Hopkins Horn on Dec 8, 2009 10:27 AM CST up reply actions
Dreamworks, Dreamland. . . it’s all good.
"The first person I would like to thank is the good Lord, for giving me the ability to play the game of football. Because without the ability to play the game I would have been at Auburn." - Marty Lyons
by crimsonpride19 on Dec 7, 2009 10:52 AM CST up reply actions
Oops
At least I didn’t refer to your incredible Jordan-Hare Stadium.
by Hopkins Horn on Dec 7, 2009 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
i would have wondered
“when did Verne Lundquist learn to type?”
"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim
by Thomas Walker Esq on Dec 7, 2009 2:14 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for the kind words
I wasn’t there during football season, but I was in Austin in Spring of 2008 and managed to poke around a bit around y’all’s stadium and took some photos (some of which I saw uploaded on Horns blogs to mark the renovation progress.) Anyway, looks like a great stadium and Texas was somewhere I really wanted to go for grad school, but personal circumstances just didn’t allow it. That being said, Tucaloosa’s in need of some new trophies!
The stadium is definitely much nicer than it used to be
It used to be a fairly incoherent structure from an architectural point of view, but the series of renovations over the past 15 years have definitely turned it into one of the top college football venues in the country. I’m still not a fan of the disproportionately large upper deck on the west side — it would be nicer to have a symmetrical upper deck across the whole stadium — but I don’t think there’s much that can be done about that now.
by Hopkins Horn on Dec 7, 2009 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
I'd like to invite the Longhorns
to try out a new uniform or have an Orange-Out or something for the NCG. That always works out well for us.
I'm in no condition to drive...wait! I shouldn't listen to myself, I'm drunk.
by That Other Dave on Dec 7, 2009 10:02 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
Rec'd
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Dec 7, 2009 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
Good to be here
As a Texas fan, I was really disappointed yall beat Florida. I just wanted us to be the ones that got to swim in Tebow tears. Looked like fun.
Oh well. Looking forward to the next month.
by the other Andrew on Dec 7, 2009 10:45 AM CST reply actions
Texas's Pride versus Alabama's Obsession
that has a national championship ring to it
Terrence Cody eats your field goal!
I really hope the whole
“Texas only got in cause the the refs screwed up and ALABAMA’s gonna dominate” crap will be held to a minimum. Im thinking Saban’s interview last night pretty much set the tone.
"The goal is to be a champion," Saban said. "I didn’t say to win a championship. I just said be a champion. That’s our goal here. That’s what we want to do."- Nick Saban
I think TCU kind of got jobbed
But I must admit I really wanted the Texas matchup, for the reasons listed above.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Dec 7, 2009 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
are you gonna change your name
if/ when we win?
"The goal is to be a champion," Saban said. "I didn’t say to win a championship. I just said be a champion. That’s our goal here. That’s what we want to do."- Nick Saban
Damn Right
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Dec 7, 2009 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
13 layer bean dip
stays!!!!!!! no matter how many titles we eventually pile up, 13 layer bean dip stays.
for the next five days there is nothing in my heart but hate. pure, untempered, ice-cold hate. fond memories are for saturday. - Kleph
by tempebamafan on Dec 7, 2009 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
This does raise a question for me
Since the national championship is “mythical,” any school can basically claim a championship on the flimsiest of grounds. And schools can be pretty conservative or liberal when it comes to their claims on championships.
So how does Bama claim a championship for a season in which they lost two games and finished 20th in the AP poll, and a season for which an undefeated Minnesota team is almost universally recognized as national champions?
What’s interesting is that Bama is claiming its championship from some source called the Houlgate System. Two similarly minor polls (Berryman and the Williamson System, whatever the heck those were) named Texas as national champs for that season, but you’ll never see any Texas fan claiming that year (or any other season in which we were ranked #1 by a poll other than the AP or coaches).
Is there some back story there as to why Bama would be claiming a championship on seemingly flimsy grounds that isn’t self-evident from those articles?
(And I type this recognizing full well that Alabama, if the Tide claimed championships as conservative as Texas does, would still have at least seven national championships to our four. And I say “at least” because it becomes pretty murky in the pre-AP days.)
by Hopkins Horn on Dec 7, 2009 12:54 PM CST up reply actions
I asked Cecil Hurt about this a while back...
Cecil is the longtime sports editor of the Tuscaloosa News. He said that the decision to claim the 1941 national championship was made back in the 1980s, and it was basically made so that Alabama had 11. At the time, Notre Dame had 10. That’s why.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Dec 7, 2009 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
So you could safely drop your 1941 claim if you win next month? :)
Saves you from having to change a handle and all.
I doubt it.
Although that one does add fuel to the anti-Alabama fire.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Dec 7, 2009 1:01 PM CST up reply actions
This is further backed up
…by the fact that we could conceivably claim 17 on the same grounds.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Dec 7, 2009 1:00 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
But playing that game . . .
. . . it looks like we’ll all be chasing Princeton for a couple of more centuries.
True.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Dec 7, 2009 1:21 PM CST up reply actions
Have to agree to dissagree on TCU, Boise State etc getting robbed.
They are undefeated at 12-0 true enough. The Tide and the Longhorns are both undedeated at 13-0 having had to play a conference championship to get to this point. Not to mention strength of schedule. I don’t understand all the crying from those folks.
"The only way to improve relations with Auburn is to beat them a few times. " 5026's Mom
by LifelongBammer on Dec 7, 2009 7:18 PM CST up reply actions
playing each other is what's wrong
The unspoken assumption was that the non-AQ schools would get to play the big boys. They didn’t, which is why a lot are upset.
It may have been...
…the assumption, but it was never the agreement, and with the dearth of quality ‘big boy’ teams this year, it’s really the best matchup the Fiesta Bowl could get….
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Dec 7, 2009 7:40 PM CST up reply actions
Sure would've preferred TCU-Iowa and Boise State-GT
by burntorangehorn on Dec 7, 2009 7:44 PM CST up reply actions
My response would be essentially the same...
…zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz….
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Dec 7, 2009 9:45 PM CST up reply actions
But that wouldn't have let them prove anything either
Iowa and GT both already have 2 losses. TCU and Boise St. would be favorites not underdogs.
by aaronlybrand on Dec 8, 2009 12:14 AM CST up reply actions
the problem with that is that the team who plays GT gets screwed
the shoulda sent cinci to play GT cause cinci obviously sucks. had TCU play florida and BSU rematch oregon. but of course that would never happen, would be too fair.
but lets be clear about one thing, cinci clearly sucks and would lose 5-6 games if they played in the SEC.
for the next five days there is nothing in my heart but hate. pure, untempered, ice-cold hate. fond memories are for saturday. - Kleph
Cinci absolutely does not suck
Brian Kelly is a terrific coach. While they don’t have the talent that, say, Ole Miss or Auburn has, they have a much better coach and far better team cohesion, and those two things can trump talent.
Dismissing the Big East BCS rep has bitten a lot of teams, including Big 12 and SEC champs in the past, in the arse.
by burntorangehorn on Dec 8, 2009 10:48 AM CST up reply actions
Wishbone > Shotgun Option Read*
*if performed by anyone other than Vince Young
"Hollywood made a movie of my life. The film had me proposing to my wife on the football field. I would never misuse a football field that way." -Crazy Legs Hirsch
by Stuck in the Plains on Dec 7, 2009 11:00 AM CST reply actions
Hello Bama Fans...
Let’s be transparent…recently a friend asked me who I would prefer the Horns play, Bama or Florida…I emphatically wanted Florida for the reasons demonstrated this past Saturday afternoon. Nice shellacking you put on the TT’s. I believed you were a better football team all along and it was proved without a doubt. Bama will be a much more formidable opponent for the Horns and if our offense plays like it did this past weekend, I will be back to tell you congrats. However, Mack and Co. always have their bunch ready for battle with 30 days to prepare. I will not go into the Rose Bowl success of Texas or the overall record. They matter not. Just as we struggled and were outplayed to a certain extent by NU, I watched the miraculous occur with Mt Cody and the 4th quarter blocks against the Vols. Good teams need breaks like that to keep perfect seasons alive. The media will forget about this game in which Tennessee outplayed the Tide in my opinion. But, I will take winning ugly over losing pretty any day of the week. Looking forward to a month of hype, speculation, and “expertise” of how the SEC will dominate an “overrated” Texas from the Big XII. Nebraska would have stymied pretty much anyone this past Saturday. I am thankful we escaped that quagmire. Hope to see some of you in Pasadena as I reside in Mission Viejo, CA.
Here is to a game filled with passion and health…Hook’Em!!!
"Stats are for losers. I like winning games." - Will Muschamp
"Somebody will always break your records. It is how you live that counts." - Earl Campbell
just look
at our game against Auburn followed up by our game against FL. Any Bama fans that think the Big 12 CG has any bearing on the BCSNC are kidding themselves.
It doesn’t matter how good your football team is, if you don’t bring your A-game then you run the risk of getting beat. That’s the nature of the game.
by atcrawford on Dec 7, 2009 2:16 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I will say
that as an eight year-old the then starting QB for the horns took me to the stadium and
played catch with me; he was a family friend and in retrospect that was a thoughtful thing for him to do. Nice guys working there too. Shame the entire experience was wasted on me. Feel kindof guilty about it. How many kids in Texas would have loved that opportunity?
wtf?
for the next five days there is nothing in my heart but hate. pure, untempered, ice-cold hate. fond memories are for saturday. - Kleph
Good stuff
I’ve actually had a healthy respect for Bama for my whole life. Except the whole Crimson thing (ou/a&m – ugh). This should be a dream match up for all of college football fans. History galore in this one.
I totally agree with Bammer:
I really hope the whole
"Texas only got in cause the the refs screwed up and ALABAMA’s gonna dominate" crap will be held to a minimum. Im thinking Saban’s interview last night pretty much set the tone.
I was excited as hell as I watched Bama put it to the Gators. If only because of the ridiculous hype that has been thwarted (that’s right, I said thwarted).
Good luck, see you in January. And to use an MMA term: “Chin up, hands down!”
um...
please don’t every compare us to Texas A&M or OU…ever again.
"The goal is to be a champion," Saban said. "I didn’t say to win a championship. I just said be a champion. That’s our goal here. That’s what we want to do."- Nick Saban
Agreed: how do maroon and cream fit in this?
and a history of choking and/or being lil’ brother?
"Hollywood made a movie of my life. The film had me proposing to my wife on the football field. I would never misuse a football field that way." -Crazy Legs Hirsch
by Stuck in the Plains on Dec 7, 2009 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
Understood :)
And it’s only a comparison in color. That’s it. It’s engrained in us to hate all shades of maroon. Although, the fact that y’all hate orange (the other UT) as much as we hate crimson/maroon, I think I can do my best to separate Bama from the crap schools we hate. As long as y’all can do the same.
crimson doesn't look anything like maroon
you might notice the distinction on jan 7th.
for the next five days there is nothing in my heart but hate. pure, untempered, ice-cold hate. fond memories are for saturday. - Kleph
Sounds like y'all hate Crimson as much as we hate orange
I'm gonna come at you like a spider monkey.
The funny thing is
I was over on RTT earlier, and they hate (the real) UT too.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Dec 7, 2009 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
fuckin bullshit. site is not working well this AM
i just lost a like a 6 paragraph post. well the long n short of it is; welcome longhorn fans, y’all got fucked last year by your own conference, too bad you have to play us this year cause you coulda beat fla. i hope we start a home and home series w/ texas after this, we owe them 7 losses. austin is supposed to be the shit, i want to visit.
i’ve had like 9 504 errors this am. fuckin pain in the ass.
for the next five days there is nothing in my heart but hate. pure, untempered, ice-cold hate. fond memories are for saturday. - Kleph
i swear to god
ESPN would fuck up a naked sorority girl slumber party… (too cryptic? there’s nothing ESPN wont ruin)
for the next five days there is nothing in my heart but hate. pure, untempered, ice-cold hate. fond memories are for saturday. - Kleph
by tempebamafan on Dec 7, 2009 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
wait...aren't you the one
who had the “mishap” during a threesome?
"The goal is to be a champion," Saban said. "I didn’t say to win a championship. I just said be a champion. That’s our goal here. That’s what we want to do."- Nick Saban
well, to be honest, i wasn't gonna get any penetration
just an HJ from 2 girls. and yes, it was me. and can we never speak of the rest of that story ever again please?
for the next five days there is nothing in my heart but hate. pure, untempered, ice-cold hate. fond memories are for saturday. - Kleph
by tempebamafan on Dec 7, 2009 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
No problem
Just post the link.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Dec 7, 2009 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
hey man...you let the cat out the bag...
"The goal is to be a champion," Saban said. "I didn’t say to win a championship. I just said be a champion. That’s our goal here. That’s what we want to do."- Nick Saban
and we won
BIG
for the next five days there is nothing in my heart but hate. pure, untempered, ice-cold hate. fond memories are for saturday. - Kleph
And, Kleph has already put everyone on notice...
that thread-win is being resurrected the first week of Jan.
"Hollywood made a movie of my life. The film had me proposing to my wife on the football field. I would never misuse a football field that way." -Crazy Legs Hirsch
by Stuck in the Plains on Dec 7, 2009 2:42 PM CST up reply actions
Looking forward to going through all of the articles this group's put together for this season.
I’ve read all of BON’s so I might as well read yours too right? Maybe it’ll give me a better idea of what the Tide’s weaknesses throughout the season have been.
TEXAS FIGHT
Tide’s weaknesses
we have those?
"The goal is to be a champion," Saban said. "I didn’t say to win a championship. I just said be a champion. That’s our goal here. That’s what we want to do."- Nick Saban
pass protection. want evidence? see the SECCG
mcelroy missed 6 passes!
for the next five days there is nothing in my heart but hate. pure, untempered, ice-cold hate. fond memories are for saturday. - Kleph
IDK..
it was pretty sweet Saturday..that tip toe run on the side line for the 1st down and the “im running backwards” for a 1st and goal were bother pretty sweet.
And yeah…Texas does know that there is this position called the RUNNING BACK and your QB shouldn’t be your leading rusher, right?
"The goal is to be a champion," Saban said. "I didn’t say to win a championship. I just said be a champion. That’s our goal here. That’s what we want to do."- Nick Saban
Nix on the "im running backwards"...
…it’s called the “moonrun”….
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Dec 7, 2009 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
Serious question...
…is your current QB as good as your QB in 2005? My feeling is no, but I could be swayed….
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Dec 7, 2009 3:17 PM CST up reply actions
I would say no
That’s not meant to put down Colt. Colt is probably the second-best QB ever to wear a Texas uniform.
And the team as a whole isn’t overall as good as 2005. The 2005 team was one of the best college teams of my lifetime.
This year’s team is very good, arguably the best in the country — we’ll know for sure in a month — but even in a victory, I don’t think this year’s squad would rank too terribly highly in a discussion of the best teams of the last 10/20/30 years. (Still high, just not near the very top of the list.)
As I brought the "best ever" subject up . . .
. . . is there a consensus “best team ever” for the Tide?
'09..
i kid..thats hard to say. Its hard to compare a team like ‘92, to a team that played in the 60’s and 70’s..just different football.
"The goal is to be a champion," Saban said. "I didn’t say to win a championship. I just said be a champion. That’s our goal here. That’s what we want to do."- Nick Saban
and when you go back and look at the monster teams
of the 20s and 30s it gets even harder. those squads were known for giving up just one or two scores a season.
Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.
most would say '92,
that defense had 4 first-team All-Americans, a few of the older guys might say ’78 b/c of the goal line stand against Penn State
"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim
by Thomas Walker Esq on Dec 7, 2009 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
1961
Only allowed 25 points all year.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Dec 7, 2009 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
1961...
…certainly belongs in the conversation with the 1992 team as one of the best defenses of all time, and it’s definitely one of the best teams we’ve had. Personally, I generally favor the 1979 team over both of these, as it had a stellar offense to complement its own great defense…but only on paper. 1961 and 1992 have a more special place in my heart.
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Dec 7, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
look into the 1966 team
they were coming off back to back AP championships and went undefeated, yet somehow didn’t get the title (they gave to ND, surprise!). a lot people say that was our best team and we dont even “claim it as a title anyways”. also the 1978 team was supposedly a juggernaut to the extreme, i can confirm the 92 team was full of beasts. like 7 first round picks on the D alone. but this 09/10 squad might wind up being one for the ages as well. we should only be better next year as we return most everyone on O and more than half of the D. we do lose Ro, Cody, Kareem, and Javier though. those are big losses.
for the next five days there is nothing in my heart but hate. pure, untempered, ice-cold hate. fond memories are for saturday. - Kleph
Kareem will return for his senior season
but we lose Washington, Cody, Deaderick, Reamer, McClain (more than likely), Anders, Arenas, Ma. Johnson, Woodall, and backups like C. Rogers, T. King, and A. Sharrieff
"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim
by Thomas Walker Esq on Dec 8, 2009 10:56 AM CST up reply actions
Ironic, since that would mean . . .
. . . both our best team and yours had to prove themselves against heavily-favorited defending champs in their bowl games.
Nice point.
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Dec 7, 2009 3:44 PM CST up reply actions
That's why this game worries me a little bit
I hope we don’t have everyone acting as if ’Bama can win the game without playing it. Ask Tebow how that turned out.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Dec 7, 2009 3:45 PM CST up reply actions
This Bama team...
…has mirrored its head coach, so I’m thinkin’ we’ll be aight….
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Dec 7, 2009 3:50 PM CST up reply actions
Which is exactly why
we Texas fans feel aight about our D in the upcoming MNC game.
by aaronlybrand on Dec 8, 2009 12:19 AM CST up reply actions
feel alright about taking "Bama to cover", and "the Over"
for the next five days there is nothing in my heart but hate. pure, untempered, ice-cold hate. fond memories are for saturday. - Kleph
The '78 team...
…was great, and loaded with talent, but I just can’t include a team with a loss in this conversation.
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Dec 7, 2009 3:44 PM CST up reply actions
esp. a loss
to So Cal
"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim
by Thomas Walker Esq on Dec 7, 2009 3:49 PM CST up reply actions
At least...
…until January, the most common answer is the 1979 team, though 1961, 1966 (no official title), and 1992 get a lot of votes. Kleph already mentioned the great teams of the 20s and 30s, but one of my favorites is the 1945 team (also no official title), which was undefeated and had an incredible point differential, as well as an amazing QB named Harry Gilmer.
So, the short answer is…no.
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Dec 7, 2009 3:39 PM CST up reply actions
Hi Bama board
I find your site’s name intriguingly familiar.
I’m sure you’ll get a lot of this but, my wife’s whole family is from Alabama and I’m from Texas. I’ve “Hooked” her immediate family to being Horns fans, but her extended family won’t budge.
This is going to be a hell of a game. Hook’em Horns!
"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo
But tasty
"Hollywood made a movie of my life. The film had me proposing to my wife on the football field. I would never misuse a football field that way." -Crazy Legs Hirsch
by Stuck in the Plains on Dec 7, 2009 2:42 PM CST up reply actions
if they're not Bama fans now
then they never were
for the next five days there is nothing in my heart but hate. pure, untempered, ice-cold hate. fond memories are for saturday. - Kleph
Simply put:
Our most glaring weakness throughout the season has been consistency. We have, at times, looked like an offensive juggernaut, with innovative playcalling, a dominant offensive line, a quarterback that simply doesn’t make mistakes, and an ability to spread the ball all over the place (check out the number of games where we’ve had 8 or more players catch a pass).
And yet, at times, we’ve looked downright vanilla in the offensive category- predictable playcalls, an unwillingness to throw the ball down the field, and overall pretty average performances from key players.
Our kickoff coverage has been somewhat of an issue- not only letting kicks be returned for touchdowns early in the season, but also allowing good returns and thus good field position on a number of occasions since.
That being said, our defense has been lights out all season, even in their tougher games there hasn’t been much of a dropoff. They hit hard, cover tight, and generally don’t make glaring mistakes.
I have seen Texas have similar issues to the ones we’ve had. I’ve also seen Texas play strong games in much the similar fashion to our strong games. This will be a great matchup, and I am counting the days.
"You have to create six seconds of hell, every time the ball is snapped..."
-Nick Saban
As I was reading your post
I couldn’t tell until the end if you were a Texas or Alabama fan.
by aaronlybrand on Dec 8, 2009 12:22 AM CST up reply actions
this is all too collegial and dull
I say we win by twenty. Joe Kines figured out TT without many players of note and Saban is a better, more aggressive coach. Y’all have not seen a comparable defensive front 7 all year. We are going to beat you like an ugly stepdaughter. The beat down shall be soo serve y’all goanna be looking up at Ross Perot.
No...
…he’d just jump up and down and scream at ’em….
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Dec 7, 2009 3:14 PM CST up reply actions
Heh
We could go ’round and ’round about this, but instead of pointing at JUST the Texas vs. Nebraska game, which could only incite Texas fans to point at JUST the Alabama vs. Tennessee game, maybe we should consider the season and matchups in their entireties?
Anyway, thanks for the welcome, Tide fans. Looking forward to a great run-up to the game, and what should be a great game besides. UT is riding a long bowl winning streak, and Mack Brown has really done a good job of shedding the reputation of not winning the big one, so we’ll see how it goes.
by burntorangehorn on Dec 7, 2009 2:16 PM CST up reply actions
i'd like to point to the fact that
against the 2 best defenses yall have faced this season, McCoy completed just 55% of his passes for 311 yards, 2 TD (1 was goal line rush), 4 INT, 13 sacks…..
"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim
by Thomas Walker Esq on Dec 7, 2009 2:28 PM CST up reply actions
further,
in those two games, you team combined for 160 rushing yards and a stellar 2.05 yds/carry
"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim
by Thomas Walker Esq on Dec 7, 2009 2:32 PM CST up reply actions
your team*
"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim
by Thomas Walker Esq on Dec 7, 2009 2:33 PM CST up reply actions
Now it's a party....
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Dec 7, 2009 9:46 PM CST up reply actions
yay, someone intelligent joins our ranks
"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim
by Thomas Walker Esq on Dec 8, 2009 12:24 AM CST up reply actions
Great job.
I’m not sure what your point is. Even the best quarterbacks generally have lesser statistics against better teams, particularly those with overwhelming pass rushes. Were you under the impression that anyone thought otherwise?
by burntorangehorn on Dec 7, 2009 2:33 PM CST up reply actions
no, I just wanted to hear the counter-argument
to me saying your offense has mucho trouble with good defenses
"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim
by Thomas Walker Esq on Dec 7, 2009 2:37 PM CST up reply actions
my question in reference to that
is how much of that can be attributed to offensive line play?
Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.
The offensive line played terribly
They played pretty poorly early in the season, then they progressed, and then the unit took an enormous step backwards against Nebraska on Saturday. Of course, I don’t think there’s a line in the nation that wouldn’t have taken an enormous step backwards facing Suh the way he played Saturday. He didn’t so much take advantage of a pedestrian unit as he took his already terrific play up to an amazing level.
by burntorangehorn on Dec 7, 2009 2:43 PM CST up reply actions
Our O-Line
is slow. We’ve had poor games against quick defensive fronts such as Nebraska and OU, but we’ve dominated against the bigger types such as Oklahoma State and Kansas. Our blocking scheme is poorly executed and it doesn’t help when you’re facing 2 out of the top 3 DT’s in College Football (Gerald McCoy and N’Domawhatever Suh, with Cody being the other).
Get off your knees Greg, you're blowin' the game.
I wonder about Cody
He’s a little more nimble than he was last year, at the expense of some bulk, but he’s still primarily a hoggmolly who consumes the line of scrimmage more than a penetrating backfield-wrecker. I guess I’d say that I’m not as concerned about the Cody matchup as I was about Suh due to the style of play, although I should emphasize that I think McClain and Arenas are each better players than any cornhusker not named House of Spears.
by burntorangehorn on Dec 7, 2009 3:00 PM CST up reply actions
i assume you saw tebow running for his life on saturday...?
cody’s game has advanced tremendously in the last year.
Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.
that was hilarious
thought Cody might floor him from behind. Terrific game by your team. I enjoyed every minute.
by Infield Elephant on Dec 7, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
it was like watching indiana jones
scramble away from that huge rock rolling down on him in the peruvian cave.
Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.
but he’s still primarily a hoggmolly who consumes the line of scrimmage more than a penetrating backfield-wrecker.
Different players and different positions. Cody’s job isn’t to rush the passer. He is, like you said, a person who is suppose to consume o-lineman. So no, you shouldn’t worry about his pass rushing stills, for that you need to look at Anders, McClain, Deaderick, Dareus, etc…
"The goal is to be a champion," Saban said. "I didn’t say to win a championship. I just said be a champion. That’s our goal here. That’s what we want to do."- Nick Saban
Absolutely different
Although I think UT’s under-performing linemen match up better against tackles who are space-eaters than against penetrators.
by burntorangehorn on Dec 7, 2009 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
oh we have them too..
maybe not as great as Suh, but we have 31 sacks on the year…which ain’t too shabby.
"The goal is to be a champion," Saban said. "I didn’t say to win a championship. I just said be a champion. That’s our goal here. That’s what we want to do."- Nick Saban
and you have to remember...
our defense isn’t as geared to getting the quarterback as a 4-3 would be. it’s all about controlling the line of scrimmage and denying the run.
Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.
that point
was made crystal clear Saturday night. We never really rushed Tebow…just kept him from scrambling.
"The goal is to be a champion," Saban said. "I didn’t say to win a championship. I just said be a champion. That’s our goal here. That’s what we want to do."- Nick Saban
that is the
4 down lineman never really rushed him.
"The goal is to be a champion," Saban said. "I didn’t say to win a championship. I just said be a champion. That’s our goal here. That’s what we want to do."- Nick Saban
Rolando McClain...
…is the best football player in the country…just ask Mark Ingram….
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Dec 7, 2009 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
A boy named Suh...
…he is amazing….
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Dec 7, 2009 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
hee hee...
awesome reference :)
by Queen of the Universe on Dec 7, 2009 5:05 PM CST up reply actions
Yep
And the remaining portion was WR miscues and a little bit of an off-day for Colt himself.
by burntorangehorn on Dec 7, 2009 3:00 PM CST up reply actions
that's actually more welcome news for us...
than this idea mcoy has regressed as a qb. our defense likes to feast on ill-performing offensive lines.
Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.
When our defense has faced
the “best Qb’s” in the SEC, no one has performed well…These same guys lit up other “good” defenses.
"The goal is to be a champion," Saban said. "I didn’t say to win a championship. I just said be a champion. That’s our goal here. That’s what we want to do."- Nick Saban
I'm not sure why
We could get into that, but I think my post was much more a macroview of things. There’s plenty of time to get down in the weeds over the next (gulp) month.
by burntorangehorn on Dec 7, 2009 2:39 PM CST up reply actions
ha, sorry,
bored at work
"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim
by Thomas Walker Esq on Dec 7, 2009 2:42 PM CST up reply actions
"UT is riding a long bowl winning streak"
so you’re saying they are increasingly more likely to lose as each new bowl game approaches? after all, all streaks end sometime right?
also, Bama has a much more sound D than ohio state, i hope y’all aren’t counting on sleepwalking for 58 minutes like you did in the fiesta bowl last year.
for the next five days there is nothing in my heart but hate. pure, untempered, ice-cold hate. fond memories are for saturday. - Kleph
You really want to bring up last year's bowl performances?
by Hopkins Horn on Dec 8, 2009 10:15 AM CST up reply actions
sure...
because our faceplant in new orleans isn’t as easily dismissed as most of the mainstream pundits like to make it out to be.
Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.
so you’re saying they are increasingly more likely to lose as each new bowl game approaches? after all, all streaks end sometime right?
Considering program deviation, Alabama is much more due for a loss than Texas is, no?
by burntorangehorn on Dec 8, 2009 10:51 AM CST up reply actions
sorry, where are my manners?
Welcome! We hope you enjoy your stay at RBR
"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim
by Thomas Walker Esq on Dec 7, 2009 2:38 PM CST reply actions
What he said....
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Dec 7, 2009 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
If you will,
can you shed some light on Todd’s eating of strange foods? Is this a tradition to Bama, this site, just him trying blood sausage for fun? What will he be eating for the MNC?
by Infield Elephant on Dec 7, 2009 3:40 PM CST reply actions
Tebows tears..
"The goal is to be a champion," Saban said. "I didn’t say to win a championship. I just said be a champion. That’s our goal here. That’s what we want to do."- Nick Saban
it's his sacrifice to the Football Gods
to ensure a victory for our team
"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim
by Thomas Walker Esq on Dec 7, 2009 3:50 PM CST up reply actions
I’m working on getting him some longhorn “rocky mountain oysters” tartar. We’re going to take the bull by the…er…testicles for this one. He just needs to send me his address…
Thanks for the Welcome...
… but leave Bevo’s boys alone. :)
"It's not the will to win that matters - everyone has that. It's the will to prepare to win that matters." - Paul "Bear" Bryant
calf fries are actually pretty good
but I imagine tartare would be disgusting
"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim
by Thomas Walker Esq on Dec 7, 2009 4:24 PM CST up reply actions
I don’t know what sauce you’re dipping your testicles in, but it’s clearly spelled “tartar” wikipedia.
In all seriousness, thanks for the correction; as you can tell, I’m not a patron of fine dining establishments.
I'll have the same
But hold the tartar sauce.
by burntorangehorn on Dec 7, 2009 7:42 PM CST up reply actions
if you guys start singing joe jackson's "one more time"
i swear i will hunt you down and kill you.
Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.
I'm telling you...
…I’m making the run to ATL in hunt of BALUT andDURIAN. I have a team on Buford Highway working on it already.
The way it should be
thx for the welcome… i for one was hoping you guys trounce FL so great job!
Hopefully we perform much better than the Big 12 Game bc that was pathetic, still just glad we made it to the big dance and seriously Alabama vs. Texas just sounds right for a national title game…
would you really want to see ‘Bama vs. TCU/Cincy? C’mon for reals…
Well, well, well...
Welcome, fellow Texans. It’s awesome here at RBR. But ya’ll play nice. I live in Texas, so this is the ONE PLACE all year I can obsess about my beloved Tide and I don’t have to hear about the superiority of the stinkin’ Longhorns. Even my little boy is a Texas fan.
So listen, ya’ll: Yes, we saw the picture of Coach Saban wearing a burnt orange sweatshirt, and yes, we know we are 0-7-1 against the ‘Horns. But we all know this is going to be a great game, and we all know that like the rules, streaks almost always broken. So here’s hoping for an awesome game and a win for the almighty Crimson Tide.
by Queen of the Universe on Dec 7, 2009 5:14 PM CST reply actions
And here's hoping...
…a Bama win helps lure your little boy to the dark side….
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Dec 7, 2009 6:24 PM CST up reply actions
At first I thought this was a sarcastic welcome...
But then I read the entire post and it was actually a sincere welcome-wagon. Warm and fuzziness abound!
Anyho, here’s looking forward to a good game. Best of wishes!
Texas's Pride versus Alabama's Obsession
I have heard some say we have a certain air of self-certainty and discernible swagger. In Texas we call it walkin. Thank you to the people who have been rather personable on this blog so far and we look forward to seeing you at the NC game and hopefully not throwing the horns down sign like a 7 yr. old who just learned the best way to get his ass kicked by his older brother. Oh and yes we are obsessed too.
You can't spell COCKSUCKER without OU.
We won't do that ridiculous horns down sign...
only the ignorant aggies do that.
But your ’Horns better beware: we know all about castration…just ask Tim Tebow.
by Queen of the Universe on Dec 8, 2009 9:35 AM CST up reply actions
see you in pasadena, and no need to worry about that
i’ll be far too busy screaming Roll Tide Roll and singing Rammer Jammer to bother with making an upside down metal fingers sign.
for the next five days there is nothing in my heart but hate. pure, untempered, ice-cold hate. fond memories are for saturday. - Kleph
I think it will be a great BCS Title game...
I think the first one to 20 points wins the BCS Title based on how well each team’s defense has played this season. I feel like we actually have a better chance playing against Alabama vs. Florida considering the style of offense each team runs. We have had our troubles with 4 WR sets (TT) and zone/read (TAMU), which Florida leans towards. Alabama has a great combo of old-fashioned running & throwing with emphasis on the run. I am not saying that means we win, but I am saying that our defense matches up better against that style of play. Either way it will be a great game based on the history of the two schools as well as the remarkable season each has had this year! I am also looking forward to a pre-game celebrity speech by Forrest Gump & Matthew McConaughey! =) And yes…I think Texas wins by a field goal with more than a second on the clock!
Hook ’em!
forrest vs we are marshall
i like it. but your prediction is all wrong. granted if texas can score 20 points, they’ll be in the game, but they wont. Bama 31 texas 13. and i’m being charitable with that score.
for the next five days there is nothing in my heart but hate. pure, untempered, ice-cold hate. fond memories are for saturday. - Kleph
No No No No No...
Screw Matthew McConaughey. We’re sending Kinky Friedman. Who will the tide bring in? Gomer Pyle?
by Magnificent Bastard on Dec 8, 2009 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
Audie can't make it
Michael Dell vs Bernie Madoff?
by Magnificent Bastard on Dec 8, 2009 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
Screw Matte-o?
I’m guessing you have not seen the cinematic masterpiece that is Surfer, Dude? Or for that matter, his raw, powerful portrayal of Dave Wooderson in Dazed and Confused?
"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim
by Thomas Walker Esq on Dec 8, 2009 1:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Stewie Griffin said it best
To Matthew McConaughey: “You suck donkey ass”
by Magnificent Bastard on Dec 8, 2009 4:06 PM CST up reply actions
Looking forward to a month of great debate
Two great fan bases should be fun.
In regards to DKR sharing the Wishbone with Bear Bryant:
Ahem (in my best Stewie Griffin voice) “Your weeeelcome!” :)
No but seriously, thanks for the warm invite. It’s nice to have a month to interact with one of the few civilized fanbases left around before we go head to head in what should prove to be a fantastic MNC game (assuming both teams actually prepare).
Hook ’em! l\m/l
Go Tide...but Hook 'em, Horns
This is just weird. I have a good friend from ‘Bama (Seth Sullivan, where ever you are, what’s up!) and we used to always wonder about the “what if” involved in a chance like this.
Dagnabbit, it happened!
Just like that 3-3 game, I hate either of these teams have to lose. I bleed burnt orange but can’t help but like the Tide, too.
Thanks for the welcome
This site is definitely a step up from the futile farmer aggie site or the OU (sucks) site, both of which quickly turn rude and crude.
For the most part, what I’ve seen here has been entertaining. But, then, I don’t have a visceral reaction at the sight of crimson and white, while even the thought of crimson and cream (sucks) makes me puke.
Speaking of puke, I want to point out to the Bamanians that it’s the OTHER UT that wears puke orange uniforms…ours are a burnt orange.
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