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Random Musings From the SEC Championship Game

It's a bit late in the week for musings on the SEC Championship Game, but with the BCS Championship Game still one month away, I figure we have plenty of time to fully dissect the victory in Atlanta. With that in mind, here are a few random musings I had from watching the SEC Championship Game:

  • Florida ran their combo option / shovel pass play on the opening play of the game, and Eryk Anders chased down Hernandez from the backside to make the tackle for a minimal gain. Anders followed Hernandez the entire way and we were obviously prepared for such a play, but the interesting thing of it was that Florida never went back to that play the rest of the game. That really surprised me, especially given how successful that play has been for them the past couple of years.
  • A large degree of Florida's lack of point production in this game can be traced back to three key offensive mistakes on the Gators' part, namely two costly drops and a terrible throw by Tebow. The first big mistake came on the opening drive when Jeff Demps dropped a pass out of the backfield that was destined for big yardage (Florida ultimately went three and out on that drive), and the second was Hernandez dropping a pass at the goal line after he left Cory Reamer in the dust (Florida had to settle for three points there). Finally, Tebow made a terrible throw on the interception to Arenas... it was an easy touchdown pass with the proper arc on the throw, and instead it ended up being the dagger through their hearts. I'm not saying Florida would have won had they capitalized on these three plays, but the game would have certainly been much closer.
  • Speaking of that throw by Tebow... it's throws like that why he'll never be a legitimate NFL quarterback. Call him the greatest college player ever if you want, but he has a slow wind-up in his delivery and he doesn't throw the football vertically very well. You can get away with that, combined with the rest of the positive things he can do for you, when you are playing the SEC East, but the NFC East? That stuff doesn't fly up there. Tebow will probably be a first round pick in the 2010 NFL Draft, and he may be an outstanding player in some type of a hybrid role or at another position, but in terms of his potential as a traditional NFL quarterback, his prospects aren't much better than mine.

Star-divide

  • I found our defensive strategy pretty interesting. We had some blitz packages and mixed up our looks, as per usual, but it certainly seemed like our strategy was to make Florida throw the football vertically down the field against six or seven defenders in coverage. We wanted to take away the interior run and the short passing game, and from there we wanted to make Florida beat us by having Tebow sit back in the pocket and throw the football down the field into tight windows. That was a fairly different strategy than what we used last year in this game, and if nothing else the end result was a lot better.
  • Only allowing 13 points to the Gators looks impressive on paper, but in all honesty we didn't exactly stop them, hence why they averaged almost seven yards per play. They are an elite offense and they had a lot of success against our defense. Fortunately, though, they shot themselves in the foot just enough at critical times, and our offense scored so many points that they were forced to push the envelope later in the game when they would have otherwise taken easy points. Combined, that kept them to only 13 points, despite the fact that they generally moved the ball well.
  • And speaking of that latter point, the game on Saturday reinforced the long-held notion that the best defense is a good offense. That was on display all afternoon in Atlanta.
  • I sincerely hope that Aaron Hernandez goes pro, and he's a fool if he doesn't. In terms of pure match-up issues, I think he probably gave us more issues than any other single skill position player we faced all year long. I hope he's playing somewhere in the NFL next year when the Gators make the trip to Tuscaloosa.
  • You know the corner blitz from Javier Arenas that we see all of the time? For whatever reason, I don't think we saw that a single time against Florida. Again, I think it was clear that we wanted to force Tebow to throw the football down the field into tight windows.
  • The play of the game... from P.J. Fitzgerald? If he doesn't make a great open field tackle on Brandon James, undoubtedly James will score and Florida will take a 10-9 lead and have all of the momentum despite 'Bama having controlled the first quarter. That play didn't get much attention, but it was absolutely critical.
  • As great of a player as Julio Jones is, I think it's clear at this point that it is in fact Marquis Maze that makes our passing game go. Jones is a great player in his own right, but he draws so much attention from opposing defenses that it really limits his production. He always draws the opposing team's best cornerback -- Joe Haden followed him around the Georgia Dome like he was his shadow -- and opposing defenses usually have either a linebacker or a safety giving assistance of some form to the corner. All in it all, it really just limits what he can feasibly do, and from there it is really all up to Maze -- who is usually isolated on the second or third corner -- to make plays. And notice that Maze's best games (Virginia Tech, Arkansas, LSU, and Florida) have been the best days for our passing game as well. I highly doubt that is a coincidence. 
  • Brandon Spikes was absolutely abused in this game. Josh Bynes may have had a career day in the Iron Bowl, but we beat Spikes to a pulp in Atlanta. Far from the career day that I feared he may have, that was probably the worst performance of his collegiate career.
  • Could there possibly a more inconsistent player than Greg McElroy? I tell you, that guy has been all over the board this year. He has played perfect (Florida), extremely good (Arkansas), good (Virginia Tech), decent (Kentucky and LSU), poorly (Tennessee and Ole Miss), and ungodly terrible (South Carolina). Pretty much anywhere along the performance spectrum, McElroy has been there at some point throughout the year. In terms of variance, I don't think I can ever recall a 'Bama player who has been as all over the board as McElroy has this year.
  • Speaking of Greg McElroy's performance against Florida, if that was not the best performance of my lifetime by an Alabama quarterback, I don't know which one could legitimately be considered better. He played at an extremely high level against an elite defense, and made plays with both his arm and his feet. Personally, that was the best performance I have ever seen by an Alabama quarterback. 
  • As a closing thought, could there ever be a bigger SEC Championship Game than this? Considering that both teams came in undefeated, #1 v. #2, and a rematch of last year's game, I really don't think you could ever have a bigger SEC Championship Game, even as a theoretical matter. Tim Brando mentioned something to that effect on the CBS broadcast Saturday afternoon, and I think he is right. For all intents and purposes, this is as big as it will ever get.
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    William Vlachos

    Vlachos had an amazing game. I know the whole line did, but he seemed to always make it out in front of a linebacker, usually Spikes, and take him completely out of the game.

    by Kenny483 on Dec 9, 2009 8:18 AM CST reply actions  

    Yes!

    Vlachos was really moving on those pulls to the outside and consistently got the the second level when running inside. However, you should note that he wouldn’t have been able to do that if Mike Johnson was consistently controlling his man 1-on-1. It allowed Vlachos to release towards the linebackers very quickly on the zone runs.

    by monjardin on Dec 9, 2009 10:01 AM CST up reply actions  

    I messed up the grammar on the second sentence. Change the “was consistently” to “wasn’t consistently”.

    by monjardin on Dec 9, 2009 10:02 AM CST up reply actions  

    I love Nick.

    The defensive game plan was genius and exposed Urban’s gay spread offensive.

    by bumblebeetuna on Dec 9, 2009 8:29 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

    Urbans spread was great until everyone saw it multiple years in a row.

    Thats the reason the spread will never enter the NFL. With upper end talent playing man defense the spread is one dimensional. Everyone squats on coverage and great pass rushers get to the QB.

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    by mulletover on Dec 9, 2009 10:33 AM CST up reply actions  

    i don't know about that as a blanket statement

    but it raises a good question… is the tebow spread a victim of its own success? did it stay around so long it allowed the competition to catch up to it?

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    by kleph on Dec 9, 2009 10:38 AM CST up reply actions  

    winner!

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    by mulletover on Dec 9, 2009 10:39 AM CST up reply actions  

    Isn't an undefeated reg. season

    and a nearly undefeated one the year before with an SEC and National title from the previous year a little too much success for one defeat to open the flood gates of “everyone’s caught on”? Only one other team this year played them close enough to scare them. I think it would be wise to wait and see if we can do this again next year too.

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    by SugarBowl93 on Dec 9, 2009 11:29 AM CST up reply actions  

    so this is the "a bridge too far" offense

    three years of the high-octane tebow-led offense finally met a team that could match it in talent and had learned enough of it’s peculiarities to find the proper scheme to meet it.

    of course now it all changes. tebow is gone and meyer has been made aware of the deficiencies in this scheme. and we have to be ready to expect anything and everything when we face them next time.

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    by kleph on Dec 9, 2009 1:07 PM CST up reply actions  

    i would venture to say

    that’s why we’re recruiting top end speed to play our defensive backfield. Saban sees how many teams are running it now, and true to his philosophy, he’s building himself a spread-busting defense

    "Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim

    by Thomas Walker Esq on Dec 9, 2009 1:28 PM CST up reply actions  

    yep

    thats why they’ve lost so many games the last two seasons :)

    "The goal is to be a champion," Saban said. "I didn’t say to win a championship. I just said be a champion. That’s our goal here. That’s what we want to do."- Nick Saban

    by bammer on Dec 9, 2009 11:15 AM CST up reply actions  

    Florida's success is not from it's scheme but rather top end talent filling the positions.

    P.S. I think Nick has caught on to their offense.

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    by mulletover on Dec 9, 2009 12:37 PM CST up reply actions  

    right now

    we are 2-1 against Urban. 1-1 once he got “his” guys into the system. Not sure if really means “we figured it out”.

    "The goal is to be a champion," Saban said. "I didn’t say to win a championship. I just said be a champion. That’s our goal here. That’s what we want to do."- Nick Saban

    by bammer on Dec 9, 2009 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

    Bama is 2-2 vs UM, 05/09 us, 06/08 for dah gatahs

    that being said Mike Shula has the same record versus UM as Coach Saban…

    Offense sells tickets. Defense wins games. - Paul W. "Bear" Bryant

    by TheRedTideConsumes on Dec 9, 2009 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

    forgot about that loss in the swamp..

    so it further proves my point…thanks

    "The goal is to be a champion," Saban said. "I didn’t say to win a championship. I just said be a champion. That’s our goal here. That’s what we want to do."- Nick Saban

    by bammer on Dec 9, 2009 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

    Florida Offense

    Also, good call on Florida’s offense. I have watched the game again, and while Alabama did get some key stops and made some nice plays in the redzone especially. This game was completely about Alabama’s offense. Alabama controlled the ball for nearly 2/3 of the game.

    by Kenny483 on Dec 9, 2009 8:31 AM CST reply actions  

    I had never been prouder of Eryk Anders...

    …than on that play. We talked about how fearsome that damn shovel/option is on the Radio Hour before the game and I’m not the least bit surprised they chose to open with it.

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    by Todd on Dec 9, 2009 8:35 AM CST reply actions  

    Eryk plays with a ton of heart and determination. Imagine how good we will be at this position with

    an Alfy Hill or Adrian Hubbard (6’7’’,4.44-40yd) in the future. No offense to Eryk he’s a beast just a little undersized as a pass break up specialist.

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    by mulletover on Dec 9, 2009 10:37 AM CST up reply actions  

    As far as Tebow's throw

    I agree a better throw would have made it a TD, but IMHO the throw wasn’t the main problem, it was the read. When I re-watched that play, I noticed that Arenas had short coverage against the slot receiver (not sure who) and passed him off just as Tebow started his throw to cover the corner route. He was not just standing there when the ball was thrown, but he jumped in front of the ball just as Tebow was releasing it. I think it was more of a great play by Arenas than a terrible one by Tebow.

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    by NJBammer on Dec 9, 2009 8:43 AM CST reply actions  

    one of the things smart football pointed out about saban's defensive philosophy...

    is that it’s more oriented to pressure the QB than get sacks. by keeping pressure on the pocket it limits the run and forces downfield passes but doesn’t reel in those sexay highlight reel sacks. this game showed how that really works against a high-power offense.

    on saturday, tebow never got settled in the pocket and, as a result, had a more difficult time finding those receivers down the field. moreover, his usual escape route by running the ball himself wasn’t there either due to the consistency of our defensive line.

    so, as much as i loved the sight of him running for his life from cody there was no chance the big man was going to put his belly on his face. but what it did do is turn a possible long ball into a short sideline run. lather rinse repeat.

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    by kleph on Dec 9, 2009 8:51 AM CST up reply actions  

    The other thing about blitzing Tebow...

    is that if you miss him, he can burn you running the ball. That’s what happened to us last year. I think we did a much better job of containing him this time.

    "So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.

    by 12NationalChampionships on Dec 9, 2009 8:54 AM CST up reply actions  

    it was obvious that our d-line

    had no plans to put major pressure on Tebow. Their goal was to keep him in the pocket and then pounce when the time was right. Multiple times, Anders would just hold his position, count to about 4 and then rush…it was a great plan to keep Tebow contained.

    "The goal is to be a champion," Saban said. "I didn’t say to win a championship. I just said be a champion. That’s our goal here. That’s what we want to do."- Nick Saban

    by bammer on Dec 9, 2009 9:04 AM CST up reply actions  

    Exactly.

    And I think we did not blitz Arenas because – one he might not be able to bring Tebow down and two it is what Florida wanted. Blitz Tebow and he takes off running for big gaines.

    When we did blitz it was with McClain who can arm tackle Tebow and clog up the middle, keeping him from his favorite escape route which is right up the middle.

    All in all it was a great defensive game plan and we got Florida so off balance they never even went back to their double option run with Hernandez. Which is tough to stop.

    And, we sure appreciated them chocking some stuff which was actually predictable because they had never been put in that kind of situation. In fact probably the last time UF had been in a game where they were getting beat down was against Bama in 2005—and you see how Urban imploded then. They are a team that if you really get them down you get into their head.

    I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.

    by 5026 on Dec 9, 2009 9:18 AM CST up reply actions  

    we also have to give big credit to our DB's

    I lost count on how many plays Tebwo was forced to go to his 4th receiver. Many times there wasn’t a single WR open..

    "The goal is to be a champion," Saban said. "I didn’t say to win a championship. I just said be a champion. That’s our goal here. That’s what we want to do."- Nick Saban

    by bammer on Dec 9, 2009 9:26 AM CST up reply actions  

    Thats exactly what i saw..

    Arenas followed the WR inside and at the last moment popped out to make the INT. Tebow just thought the guy would be wide open.

    The great thing about that play was what Gary Danielson said right before it. Remember, Tebow had just connected on a 20+ yard throw to a WR ( i don’t know his name) that set up this play. After the catch, Danielson said, “Against UF, you gotta cut the head off the snake”…one play later we did…

    "The goal is to be a champion," Saban said. "I didn’t say to win a championship. I just said be a champion. That’s our goal here. That’s what we want to do."- Nick Saban

    by bammer on Dec 9, 2009 8:59 AM CST up reply actions  

    Greg McElroy

    I think he takes a lot of heat for poor play when generally, in the games he didn’t play well, the issue was poor protection from the offensive line. Our offensive line completely dominated Florida. That was not the case against Ole Miss, South Carolina and Tennessee. Pressured quarterbacks make hasty throws and bad decisions. I’d still take a hasty, sloppy McElroy over John Parker Wilson any day. At least McElroy’s poor play didn’t lead to multiple interceptions, fumbles, and points for the other team.

    "So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.

    by 12NationalChampionships on Dec 9, 2009 8:53 AM CST reply actions  

    Against Ole Miss

    I blame poor red zone playing calling as half the problem. I think we have improved our goal line and red zone play calling in the last few games and getting Cody more involved is part of the success, even if he is use as a decoy.

    I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.

    by 5026 on Dec 9, 2009 9:21 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

    hells yes..

    Can’t remember the last time i saw a WR fade near the goal line. If we run the BIG set against UT, we win by 2 TD’s.

    "The goal is to be a champion," Saban said. "I didn’t say to win a championship. I just said be a champion. That’s our goal here. That’s what we want to do."- Nick Saban

    by bammer on Dec 9, 2009 9:27 AM CST up reply actions  

    We loose a ton of these impact players like Cody and Ro and Javey etc..

    It’s going to be very very intresting to see who steps up next season. I’ve seen BJ Scott on the sidelines many times this year. He has really grown into his frame well. looks nothing like he did against Clemson in 2008.

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    by mulletover on Dec 9, 2009 10:45 AM CST up reply actions  

    Well...

    Barron will be back. Green will be back. Rob Woodson, BJ, Dre,..

    Im pretty sure Jackson will return. He’s had a fine year, but im not sure it was good enough to make him a high enough draft pick. Who knows, if Ro comes back, Jackson might return also.

    That would make us pretty damn deep at DB next year.

    "The goal is to be a champion," Saban said. "I didn’t say to win a championship. I just said be a champion. That’s our goal here. That’s what we want to do."- Nick Saban

    by bammer on Dec 9, 2009 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

    Good point

    "So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.

    by 12NationalChampionships on Dec 9, 2009 9:39 AM CST up reply actions  

    I do think McElroy deserves some heat in these situations; he could have made better decisions and reads here.

    That having been said, when was the last time he lost a game?
    Exactly.

    by squinky86 on Dec 9, 2009 9:38 AM CST up reply actions  

    mcelroy's block

    we shouldn’t ever forget the block mcelroy threw, taking out a florida player, nor the muscle flex directed at their bench!

    by Israelbama on Dec 9, 2009 12:40 PM CST up reply actions  

    PJ Fistzgerald

    Four plays showed Bama players making that extra effort:

    McElroy’s tiptoe for first down.
    McElroy’s block to spring Richardon for extra yardage
    PJ Fitzgerald’s open field tackle.
    McLain outrunning Gator blockers to stop Demps on a sweep.

    All four of these plays should have been “negative” plays for Bama, but on each one, the player gutted it out to do what was necessary to turn a negative into a positive.

    I have been a fan of McElroy’s all season. I like the fact that Saban sticks with him, and let’s him grow into the position. I think he is the smartest and coolest quaterback since Hollingsworth. And he will do what it takes to win.

    Shorty Price Lives

    by StarStarr on Dec 9, 2009 8:55 AM CST reply actions  

    Fitzgerald

    He deserves to have his name spelled correctly.

    Shorty Price Lives

    by StarStarr on Dec 9, 2009 8:56 AM CST up reply actions  

    "next"

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    by mulletover on Dec 9, 2009 10:47 AM CST up reply actions  

    Who knows?

    I’m sure Saban well let them battle it out in the spring. My question is, what happens to Star if AJ is for real?

    by monjardin on Dec 9, 2009 10:57 AM CST up reply actions  

    Transfer probably. He hasn't developed as many thought he would.

    After seeing him against UTC I fell that way too.

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    by mulletover on Dec 9, 2009 12:39 PM CST up reply actions  

    Wildcat QB?

    "So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.

    by 12NationalChampionships on Dec 9, 2009 1:27 PM CST up reply actions  

    I'm sure it will be open for either in the spring

    but I think come fall we will see GMac back in place.

    by billycthulhu on Dec 9, 2009 4:47 PM CST up reply actions  

    There were more...

    …than four…

    Ingram’s own tiptoe down the sideline…
    McClain closing fast on Teebs when he scrambled left, only to get dragged to the ground…
    Julio fighting for extra yards (feet? inches?) on the first offensive play of the game…

    I think it was Joe Haden who indicated that our guys really seemed to want to win…we just outworked, out-hustled, out-willed them to win…I’m still amazed….

    "High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

    by NiceLittleSaturday on Dec 9, 2009 9:54 PM CST up reply actions  

    RBR staff

    Any Meltdown Time this week?

    by bumblebeetuna on Dec 9, 2009 8:57 AM CST reply actions  

    Yes, was wondering the same thing.

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    by Bens4vcobra on Dec 9, 2009 10:03 AM CST up reply actions  

    My week just hasn't been this same

    without Meltdown. I was anticipating some sweet Gator agony.

    I dont think you want me to say what I think about that - Coach Nick Saban

    by InTheShadowOfMtCody on Dec 9, 2009 10:48 AM CST up reply actions  

    Barron?

    Not a lot of talk about him in this game, but he got beat multiple times. Once was on bump and run against Cooper. The play ended up going for a big 1st down. He took a bad angle on a screen play and was beat in the 3rd quarter by Nelson ( i think). Im not saying he played terrible, but it def wasn’t his best game.

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    by bammer on Dec 9, 2009 9:02 AM CST reply actions  

    QB Play vs. Florida

    You mentioned that McElroy’s performance was one of the best you’ve ever seen from an Alabama QB. I would like to comment that (3) of the best Alabama QB performances have come against the Gators: 1999 Andrew Zow, 2005 Brodie Croyle, and 2009 Greg McElroy. Most folks remember 1999 for Shaun Alexander, but Zow really picked the Gators apart. 2005 will be remembered for the Prothro injury, but it was probably Croyle’s finest game in Crimson.

    by Boxscorewilly on Dec 9, 2009 9:40 AM CST reply actions  

    1994 - Jay Barker against Georgia

    Almost 400 yards in a 29-28 win. That’s my pick. Gary Hollingsworth against Ole Miss in 1989 (62-27) was a good one too.

    "So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.

    by 12NationalChampionships on Dec 9, 2009 10:02 AM CST up reply actions  

    Good, but...

    All of those were good performances, but again it wasn’t quite the same. Barker’s performance against UGA in 1994 was a big night for him, but realistically he lit up a 5-6 Georgia team, at home, led by Ray Goof.

    You just cannot compare that to lighting up an elite Florida defense, at a neutral site, in the biggest SEC Championship Game ever, and in the most important Alabama football game in almost 20 years. That’s really what separates McElroy from the rest. Others have performed as well (and better) on an absolute level, but no one has came even close to doing it against that high quality of an opponent, much less with the stakes of the game itself that high.

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    by outsidethesidelines on Dec 9, 2009 5:09 PM CST up reply actions  

    Steve Sloan vs. Nebraska, 1966

    "High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

    by NiceLittleSaturday on Dec 9, 2009 9:56 PM CST up reply actions  

    I agree about Croyle...

    He’s my favorite Alabama QB ever. Tough, tough guy with a huge heart. He got up every time they knocked him down, and it seems like that happened a lot, unfortunately.

    by Queen of the Universe on Dec 9, 2009 4:56 PM CST up reply actions  

    If only...

    …he’d had a couple of years under Scott Cochran….

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    by NiceLittleSaturday on Dec 9, 2009 9:58 PM CST up reply actions  

    Bama QB performances

    Automatically, the 2005 Florida game (Croyle), 2007 UT (Wilson) and 2001 Auburn (Zow) come to my mind in terms of an Alabama QB just having an unreal day. But yeah, McElroy’s performance was the best in my mind certainly taking the stakes into account.

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    by Bens4vcobra on Dec 9, 2009 10:05 AM CST reply actions  

    I was thinking about 2004 Arkansas (Guillon), liquid magic

    by Alabama ManDance on Dec 10, 2009 9:17 AM CST up reply actions  

    Guillon vs. South Carolina

    in 2004 was equally impressive.

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    by Bamagrad on Dec 10, 2009 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

    On your first thought

    about the little shovel pass play yo Hernandez…when i saw the way Anders played that, i said “game on” to everyone that was watching the game at my house. I went on to say that we are ready for this game just from what i saw on that first play.

    Also i believe Vlachos played an awesome game, as he was consistently getting to the 2nd level and completely blew up spikes on several plays.

    ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!!!

    by alanbama14 on Dec 9, 2009 10:09 AM CST reply actions  

    Bama QB Performances

    Don’t forget Jay Barker’s 396 yard performance coming back from a sizable deficit in the second half of the 1994 Georgia game. That was his coming out party, and he was lights out the rest of the way. Remember, he went from “oh, no, he’s throwing” to Heisman candidate in one year.

    by johneatonreeves on Dec 9, 2009 10:14 AM CST reply actions  

    The key to the game

    was the offensive performance. Our defense played pretty good, great at times, but we won the game on offense. No one was going to shut FL’s offense down, but our offense kept their offense off the field and moved the ball and scored points. I thought all along the key match-up was our offense vs their defense and we dominated that aspect of the game. If we play close to that we will defeat Texas as well.

    Baptman

    by baptman on Dec 9, 2009 11:16 AM CST reply actions  

    Florida ran their combo option / shovel pass play on the opening play of the game, and Eryk Anders chased down Hernandez from the backside to make the tackle for a minimal gain. Anders followed Hernandez the entire way and we were obviously prepared for such a play, but the interesting thing of it was that Florida never went back to that play the rest of the game. That really surprised me, especially given how successful that play has been for them the past couple of years.

    A couple of us noticed, before this game, that Hernandez tips this particular play to the defense (similar to the way Alex Brown picked up the hitch in Tee Martin’s cadence prior to the 1999 Florida/Tennessee game) with his pre-snap stance/behavior. We got in contact with Jeremy Pruitt, who was a GA at Alabama when we were there and who is currently on Saban’s staff, and relayed our findings to him. He simply said, “Don’t worry, we’re looking at everything. We’re all over it.”

    I think Ander’s reaction on the first play showed Florida that we would not give them this play so they abandoned it.

    MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--

    BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.

    by Bamagrad on Dec 9, 2009 11:25 AM CST reply actions  

    Well, what does he do?

    Don’t leave us hangin’ there, Bamagrad!

    I bleed crimson and white...I puke Vol puke orange. RTR

    by SugarBowl93 on Dec 9, 2009 11:45 AM CST up reply actions  

    If you watch his stance

    and his feet there are little things (sometimes he leans, sometimes he gets lazy with his stance, etc.) that defensive players can spot if they watch him. I don’t know if we used this or not because I think Anders was responsible for trailing Hernandez no matter what in this play, and if Saban and Co. had already spotted Hernandez’s tendencies, they would have alerted Anders and the other defenders of this in order to anticipate this play and react to it more quickly.

    There is tons of stuff like this in football. When I watch games, I can still pick up a lot pre-snap by the player’s alignment. Even the great ones can subconsciously give a play away with their behavior, stance.

    Marty Gilyard from Cincinnati has some things he does also. I noticed that with him against West Virginia and Pitt.

    MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--

    BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.

    by Bamagrad on Dec 9, 2009 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

    Looks like

    we may need to have you watching film on Texas.

    "So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.

    by 12NationalChampionships on Dec 9, 2009 11:55 AM CST up reply actions  

    I would watch and break down film if I could get some

    I love that part of football.

    MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--

    BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.

    by Bamagrad on Dec 9, 2009 11:58 AM CST up reply actions  

    I wonder if the Big 12

    is offering Texas’s games for purchase online like the SEC is with Alabama’s.

    Probably not.

    "So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.

    by 12NationalChampionships on Dec 9, 2009 12:01 PM CST up reply actions  

    You should do a few pieces

    on “tendencies to watch for” next year once the season gets going pretty good and you have some game film to work from. For one who never had the fortune to play the game and learn that way, that would be as fun to read as OTS’s play breakdowns.

    I bleed crimson and white...I puke Vol puke orange. RTR

    by SugarBowl93 on Dec 9, 2009 12:08 PM CST up reply actions  

    this play is really a triple option and in most cases there are 4 or more options for this play

    teboe is supposed to make reads and decide who gets the ball, TE-RB-Teboe-or pass down field. It was hard to run many plays when you only have the ball for 10 minutes of each half. Bama’s ball control was the biggest reason that UF could not find a rhythym.

    by pLANEolG8RB8 on Dec 9, 2009 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

    great evaluation of what should have been a great game

    what bothers me the most about this loss is the three plays that you pointed out; the 2 dropped passes and the int. to have a chance in that game you have got to make those plays. even though, i was extremely surprised at how well UF moved the ball on Bama’s D. but UF could not convert on third down, could not stop bama on third down, and when we were able to stop you guys we had either lined up off sides or we hit your QB late. congrats on a great win, you guys did things the right way all season and you deserve it!!!
    PS….. looks like lil’lane’s “Hostess Gate” is gonna dwarf ol’ Fullmer’s “Twinky Gate”

    by pLANEolG8RB8 on Dec 9, 2009 12:07 PM CST reply actions  

    You know

    I wasn’t surprised at how Alabama was able to keep Florida out of the end zone once they got in the red zone. The Tide has excelled at red zone defense all season, even against teams that moved the ball on us relatively well, and Florida has had plenty of red zone (touchdown) issues offensively all year.

    What did surprise me was that Alabama was able to punch the ball in consistently once they were in the red zone – which we also have had difficulty doing all season – and (as you say) that Florida was unable to convert on third downs. Somehow we were able to break out of our season-long issues and Florida was not. Not sure if it was just “wanting it more” or if Alabama exploited a weakness Florida had that no one else (except maybe Arkansas) was able to exploit.

    Any thoughts?

    "So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.

    by 12NationalChampionships on Dec 9, 2009 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

    Our red zone improvement was a result of switching from fade passes to a triple-covered Julio to running the ball with our Heisman candidate behind Mount Cody. This switched saved my grandfather from a stroke. The poor guy has been turning red cussing McElwain’s red-zone play calling all season!

    by monjardin on Dec 9, 2009 12:51 PM CST up reply actions  

    There is that...

    :)

    "So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.

    by 12NationalChampionships on Dec 9, 2009 1:28 PM CST up reply actions  

    i believe the bama players just plain "wanted it more"

    this bama team listened for 365 days how UF whipped them in the fourth qtr of last years game. how the gators had more heart……etc…… while UF players and coaches heard just how wonderful they were for the same 365 days.
    i believe that it was plain to see by the discipline and focus that bama played with that they were more “determined” than my gators were. every bama player came in ready to play and did anything that was required of them. mcclain running demps down on that sweep, mcelroy throwing blocks and the sideline dancing, yall’s punters tackle.
    on the other hand UF played with a total lack of focus, dropped passes, penalties, late hits, etc….
    if you look at UF’s game vs LSU it was the same game in reverse. on almost every posession UF started with first down and five because LSU wasn’t focused enough to line up on sides.
    Again congrats Bama on a job well done I’ll be stoppin in and check on you fella’s. God Bless, Go Gators and Roll Tide

    by pLANEolG8RB8 on Dec 9, 2009 6:31 PM CST up reply actions  

    William

    Vlachos had one hell of a game. Almost every running play he was knocking the shit out of Spikes. He was dominating. The whole offensive line had a great game.

    This upcoming season I'm gonna refer to Julio Jones as "The Magic Man" and Trent Richardson as "El Diablo"

    by AlabamaTitans2009 on Dec 9, 2009 12:48 PM CST reply actions  

    One Upmanship
    Considering that both teams came in undefeated, #1 v. #2, and a rematch of last year’s game, I really don’t think you could ever have a bigger SEC Championship Game

    …hmmm…what about another rematch between undefeated next year? (purely as a theoretical matter, of course : )

    by thronedoggie on Dec 9, 2009 1:46 PM CST reply actions  

    Well that would be huge

    but we play them in the regular season at BDS next year. So there’s no chance that both of us reach the SEC championship undefeated.

    by houndstoothbear on Dec 9, 2009 2:32 PM CST up reply actions  

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