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Listen, Coach Saban:

I hear a lot from other fanbases that you're off to this job or that job; that you're not to be trusted, that you'll be leaving us like you left the others.  I'm not sure what LSU has to complain about, Les Miles literally did win a national championship with your players - but that's neither here nor there.  No, Coach, I'm not asking you to tell us you love us and you'll be here until we don't want you.  Coaching doesn't work like that any more, really.  Look at Spurrier: I still don't understand why he didn't take the job back here in Gainesville when it opened up, and I'm not sure I believe he's as satisfied there in Columbia as he professes.  

No, Coach, it's that I want to point out to you a few things.  You see, it's really in your best interests to stay here.

I'm not threatening you; we save that for the guys like Bill Curry.  I'm trying to point out that you have a really good thing going here: Alabama is the best coaching job in the country. This year, you have a frickin INCREDIBLE team in all phases, and you get to play an undefeated Texas for a National Championship. Who gets to say that? You just defeated #1 Florida to go to the BCSMNCG - how many other coaches can say that? I mean, it's not just that you're seated at the big table in the poker game, but you've got all the aces. You can recruit in the most fertile areas, Alabama and Florida and Georgia, and at this point your program recruits for itself on a national level.  Why would you want to coach anywhere else?  Where does it get better?  The chicks may be hotter at USC, and the surfing's better... but the competition is here.  Seriously.  If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best.  And the best are here in the SEC.  

The recruiting talent around here is just ridiculous, man.  Just in the Gulf Coast area this last couple of years you've gotten Julio Jones, D.J. Fluker, Trent Richardson, Mark Barron, A.J. McCarron, Preston Dial, Brandon Gibson, Mike Johnson, and B.J. Scott - there's four or five All-Americans in that list, you watch. Where else are you going to recruit that's this fertile? And the fanbase loves you. The players love you. They all love the way you coach, they don't care if you aren't running the fun'n'gun. You know you can stay as long as you want... and if you want to pad that coaching resume, if you want to achieve the most you can, you have to put yourself in the position to play in the big games, against the big programs, and armed with the best players.  That happens at Alabama. 

There is no better place for Nick Saban to coach.  Next year, you could be in the BCSMNCG against USC.  Ohio State.  Oklahoma. Oregon. Those are the kinds of games you want on your resume. Alabama gives you the chance to win those games, too.

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Those are the kinds of games you want on your resume. Alabama gives you the chance to win those games, too.

You don’t need a resume anymore when you have your dream job.

by Espyonage on Dec 10, 2009 12:13 AM CST reply actions  

Two corrections...

The chicks may be hotter at USC,

While very hot, yes…I don’t think you can do much better the the women type of the SEC. That’s just my unbiased opinion.

by String30 on Dec 10, 2009 8:52 AM CST up reply actions  

I think...

…the appeal of the USC gals is that they seem less inhibited…but I agree, the best women are in the south, and Alabama could win a national title in that type of competition as well.

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Dec 10, 2009 9:07 AM CST up reply actions  

USC girls are nasty club sluts

and wannabe celebreality whores. UC Irvine chicks > USC and UCLA chicks.

the song girls are another story. great outfit.

for the next five days there is nothing in my heart but hate. pure, untempered, ice-cold hate. fond memories are for saturday. - Kleph

by tempebamafan on Dec 10, 2009 1:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't worry.

He ain’t going anywhere, but he doesn’t need to say anything because talk means nothing these days in coaching- FOR ALL OF THEM.

But his daughter is a freshman at Bama and in a sorority. I just think he will stay until she finishes which should be at least 3 more years and by then he will be closing in on 60 and so I think he just stays 3 or 4 more years, until he is near 65 and then he retires to the lake.

I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.

by 5026 on Dec 10, 2009 12:16 AM CST reply actions  

Somebody...

…find her advisors, and encourage them to encourage her to stay at the Capstone for graduate school….

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Dec 10, 2009 8:11 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't see the reason for this concern...

Is there some news I haven’t read? Has he said he’s thinking about leaving? ‘Cause otherwise, I don’t think we should be delivering sales pitches to a coach who’s already here, and who’s brought us to where we are: preparing for a national championship game. No offense to you. I obviously understand that you want him to stay.

Also, just as an aside, you never want to say, “I’m not threatening you” when persuading somebody to do something. Just like you wouldn’t say that to a girl you’re trying to pick up. ‘Cause she’d probably think you are threatening her, in spite of your saying “I’m not threatening you.” That’s bad. It leads to a Discomfort Zone. And possibly a restraining order. The last thing we want is for Coach Saban to put a restraining order on us.

Let’s give him the respect he’s earned, and let him do his job without commanding him to listen. It’s only his third year, and we’re Alabama. We don’t have to beg.

by crimsontsunami on Dec 10, 2009 1:05 AM CST reply actions  

agree with this

I think this post is more to satisfy the concern of some of the fans…. I can guarantee you that Saban knows about everything that’s mentioned in the post.

by atcrawford on Dec 10, 2009 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I heard Spurrier didn’t take the Florida job because when he called to tell them he wanted it, they said he still had to be interviewed like all the other candidates which ticked him off. So he went elsewhere.

by dsz002 on Dec 10, 2009 1:27 AM CST reply actions  

what is the m stand for in mncg?

by CrimsonTide229 on Dec 10, 2009 1:42 AM CST reply actions  

Mythical...

that is the name it has been giving with all the goings on as to how the BCS system works.

ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!!!

by alanbama14 on Dec 10, 2009 5:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Actually the phrase MNC..

predates the BCS game. It stems from the fact that the NCAA doesn’t officially sanction the Division I-A (FBS) national championship.

"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.

by 12NationalChampionships on Dec 10, 2009 7:54 AM CST up reply actions  

That's why I refer to them...

…as the MNCAA….

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Dec 10, 2009 8:12 AM CST up reply actions  

You Maverick!

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success" - Coach Bryant

by TopDaddy on Dec 10, 2009 9:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks...

…MTD….

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Dec 10, 2009 2:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Saban

should stay at Alabama, but the fact is that any coach who is at least good can win at Bama. Even a bad coach can win. Mike Dubious (sp intentional) won an SECCG at Bama, for pete’s sake! Bill Curry won 10 games (in an 11 game schedule) and a share of the SEC! A good coach (Stallings, Frank Thomas) can win a NC or two here. A great coach (Bryant, Wade, maybe Saban) can win many. If Franny had stayed, he would likely have won a NC by now. Ears was the only coach who never never did anything here, out of 115 years worth of coaches.

If Saban stays another 10 years, he’ll likely have 3 or 4 NCs by the time he retires and will be considered one of the greatest college coaches of his generation. If he leaves, Bama will be fine, but he’ll have to rebuild somewhere else and may or may not ever win even one more NC.

In short, I agree with you that Alabama is one of the top 2 or 3 college coaching jobs in the country. Sure, you have to deal with rich boosters, high expectations, and the like. But Saban has proven he can handle that. There’s no reason to think he’d be dumb enough to throw it all away for any reason.

"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." - Bear Bryant

by NJBammer on Dec 10, 2009 7:20 AM CST reply actions  

+10000

"if you disagree... you are free to point your browser elsewhere."-Kleph

by The Voice of Reason on Dec 10, 2009 8:29 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm rec'ing this

just reading the title of the post freaks me out a little

by yellowhammer on Dec 10, 2009 9:49 AM CST up reply actions  

I'll

join this dogpile.

"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken

by Bens4vcobra on Dec 11, 2009 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

WTF are you talking about?

And why the F are you listening to LSU fans?

"The goal is to be a champion," Saban said. "I didn’t say to win a championship. I just said be a champion. That’s our goal here. That’s what we want to do."- Nick Saban

by bammer on Dec 10, 2009 8:55 AM CST reply actions  

Some people...

…like corndogs….

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Dec 10, 2009 9:03 AM CST up reply actions  

mmmm... with mustard...

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success" - Coach Bryant

by TopDaddy on Dec 10, 2009 9:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh, I'm not worried.

But you know that with the ND job opening up, and the Michigan job not far behind, that some boosters and some university reps are going to be contacting Coach Saban to gauge his interest. I simply wanted to remind CNS that however nice a line they talk, they’ve got nothing better to offer than he already has. Unless he likes surfing.

I probably shouldn’t post drunk again.

by rco3 on Dec 10, 2009 9:21 AM CST reply actions  

It's all good (IMO)...

It’s been a concern of mine every year about this time, and it will continue to be. Especially with Mack Brown setting a new bar at $5M per year. But you don’t have to worry about one thing: if he leaves, it likely won’t be for the money. We have some very wealthy boosters that will likely match or exceed any amount another program has to offer.

I don’t think he’s going anywhere, but from here on out, he’ll have to make that decision each and every year, because some big offers will be on his table for many Decembers to come.

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success" - Coach Bryant

by TopDaddy on Dec 10, 2009 9:43 AM CST up reply actions  

I simply wanted to remind CNS…

Then send him a letter. He doesn’t spend his time reading what we have to say about the team he knows everything about, I promise.

I'm wrong all the time.

by PeteHoliday on Dec 10, 2009 10:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed.

He doesn’t read this blog. But please don’t send him that letter.

by crimsontsunami on Dec 10, 2009 11:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Shhhh

His assistants will read it, laugh, and toss it in the ol’ circular file.

rco3 will feel better, though.

I'm wrong all the time.

by PeteHoliday on Dec 10, 2009 11:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Haha

Good point. I was a little frightened by the content of the letter and, in my terror, forgot the obvious fact that no one cares.

by crimsontsunami on Dec 10, 2009 12:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Sounds

like what my parents did with my letters to Santa (tear).

"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken

by Bens4vcobra on Dec 11, 2009 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly

He doesn’t have time for that shit. And I like it that way.

by Nico2.0 on Dec 10, 2009 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

You forgot to mention that UA lets Nick use the University Jet anytime to anywhere. also he gets a nice little Country Club Membership to North River Yacht Club

and did I mention that Nick has full control. No other cooks in the kitchen. At ND there are tons of cooks telling you how they like their soup. Same with Michigan and Penn State. There is alot to be said about being the Alpha male. And that my friend is Nicks MO. Ruff Ruff!!!

Your temper brings dishonor to my happy mooshu palace.

by mulletover on Dec 10, 2009 11:47 AM CST up reply actions  

According to Ericson's theory on human development....

Saban is in the Generativity stage of his development which means he’s passing his knowledge on to the team and until he reaches Stagnation in which he no longer is reaching the players and can’t motivate them anymore, will he leave.

IMO

Got that winning feelin'

by skycaster on Dec 10, 2009 11:03 AM CST reply actions  

stagnation=Bobby Bowden

"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim

by Thomas Walker Esq on Dec 10, 2009 12:11 PM CST up reply actions  

better example would have been..

stagnation = Tommy Tuberville

"The goal is to be a champion," Saban said. "I didn’t say to win a championship. I just said be a champion. That’s our goal here. That’s what we want to do."- Nick Saban

by bammer on Dec 10, 2009 12:36 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah..probably right..

but i think the dig at Tub’s is better :)

"The goal is to be a champion," Saban said. "I didn’t say to win a championship. I just said be a champion. That’s our goal here. That’s what we want to do."- Nick Saban

by bammer on Dec 10, 2009 2:24 PM CST up reply actions  

always gotta one-up me, huh?

you cheatin’ bammer

"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim

by Thomas Walker Esq on Dec 10, 2009 2:36 PM CST up reply actions  

i'm calling troll

i know it’s late, but Troll.

for the next five days there is nothing in my heart but hate. pure, untempered, ice-cold hate. fond memories are for saturday. - Kleph

by tempebamafan on Dec 10, 2009 1:43 PM CST reply actions  

nahh

he might be completely insane..but he’s not a troll.

"The goal is to be a champion," Saban said. "I didn’t say to win a championship. I just said be a champion. That’s our goal here. That’s what we want to do."- Nick Saban

by bammer on Dec 10, 2009 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

drunk, yes.

Troll, no. But thanks for your concern.

by rco3 on Dec 10, 2009 5:36 PM CST up reply actions  

I doubt coach was B.S.ing

After he signed the extension and said he and Miss Terry would like to finish his career here.

by Crimsoncaller on Dec 10, 2009 2:51 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

How about this

Saban keeps winning at Alabama. A few national championships, a bunch of SEC championships, and after a while Alabama becomes not the school where Bear Bryant coached, but Nick Saban and the Bear coached. Do you realize how much of an improbable task it is to go to the school with the most revered coach in college football history and end up being put on similar ground with that legend? I think Saban can do it, but it won’t be easy.

What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.

-Hank Hill

by Zoltar on Dec 11, 2009 11:10 AM CST reply actions  

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