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2009 Spring Practice: Day Two And Three News And Notes

With the first two practices now in the books, following the return from Spring Break, here goes a deeper look into some news and notes thus far:

  • The day two practice took place on the outdoor practice fields, and suffice it to say it did not please the ol' Nicktator. It should come as no great surprise that we didn't have much mental focus after returning from Spring Break, but Saban pretty much went off on everyone to reinforce the point that behavior like that would in no way be tolerated. We have work to get done, and a lot of improvement to make, and Saban isn't going to tolerate poor mental focus. I don't think much more should be read into it than that... Saban is just lighting a fire under these guys (and the fans) and making sure no one is resting on their laurels. 
  • Predictably, things looked a bit better on day three (Wednesday). We went to full pads for the first time, and though bad weather forced practice inside to the Hank Crisp Indoor Facility, focus and intensity were apparently improved. Again, considering who's running the show, that should come as no real surprise.
  • Though initially we all thought Brandon Fanney's transgression, whatever it was, was nothing major, apparently it's more serious than we originally thought. Fanney has missed three practices thus far, and there is no definite sign just yet of when he will return. And it's really bad news for Fanney. He was already going to get a major push for his starting job as it was, and this is really hurting him. At this point, with the continued development of Courtney Upshaw and the movement of Dont'a Hightower to Jack linebacker (at least situationally) -- not to mention Ed Stinson coming in this Fall -- you honestly have to think that Fanney is a bit expendable. We'd love to have him around because he's good against the run, but I highly doubt the coaching staff is crying in their beers over the situation. Whatever he did, it looks to have hurt him far more than it will hurt us. I personally wonder if he might be headed to defensive end when he returns.
  • The quarterback situation, as mentioned plenty before, is getting a lot of attention, but frankly there is just nothing to report. You can only determine so much by watching quarterbacks run drills, and the major determining factor is going to be how they perform in the upcoming scrimmages. Until we see how they perform in simulated live action drills, you really cannot say anything overly definitive aside from what's been said the past few months.
  • The offensive line, as expected, has been all over the place, and I don't think we should read too much into anything at this point. Of course we have no depth charts under the Nicktator's iron-fisted rule, but it has looked like JUCO transfer James Carpenter was working with the first team at left tackle. Aside from that, however, things have been a mess. William Vlachos is working at center and Saban said some positive things about his play, and then today David Ross, the top back-up at guard from a year ago, was also taking snaps at center. Moving forward, people are just going to be moving all over the place, and it's just something you have to accept without jumping the gun and making any rash presumptions. I think all we can definitely say at this point is that Mike Johnson will remain as the starter at left guard, and the other four positions are totally up in the air.
  • Speaking of the offensive line, we are seeing some positive development from the young guys. Tyler Love has really drew some positive reviews thus far, as the former five-star recruit has not only gotten healthy but bulked up a bit. Moreover, John Michael Boswell continues to play well, and he looks to be making a legitimate run at playing time, and Barrett Jones continues to develop nicely. He still needs to add some more weight, but with his athleticism and intelligence, not to mention work ethic, he'll be a factor somewhere on the line sooner rather than later.
  • One more note on the offensive line... keep your eye on Chance Warmack. He was a three-star last year who got very little recruiting attention, but he dominated the Nike camp in Tuscaloosa last year, Saban and company offered immediately, and he jumped at the offer. He's a very smart kid who enrolled early, and he's going through Spring practice now. Do not sell short on this kid. Most offensive linemen need a year or two in a college S&C program to be physically ready, but it's clear that Warmack is physically ready right now, and the intelligence is clearly there to handle the mental aspect of the game. Make no mistake about it, he's going to make a serious run at playing at right guard this season.
  • At tailback, it seems there is good news on Roy Upchurch. After neck surgery a few months back, I was afraid that Upchurch may be headed the way of the medical scholarship, but fortunately things seem to be looking better. He's sporting the no-contact black jersey, and will do so all Spring, but he's going through just about all of the drills and he certainly doesn't look like an imminent medical scholarship casualty. I cannot help but feel that he will be good to go this Fall. 
  • At wide receiver, it's basically the same ol' faces, and essentially the same problems as before. Julio is a once-in-a-generation player, but after that no one knows. Maze has the ability to get open deep, but he still needs to develop route-running techniques on short and intermediate routes, and we have no clue if we have anyone who can consistently get it to him deep. Earl Alexander has a great physical make-up, and is developing further, but not having him in contact work is clearly hindering his development. Darius Hanks wows in practice, but we still need him to translate on the field. Brandon Gibson doesn't really stand out in any particular way, but he's a solid all around player. Again, it's all pretty much known commodities at this point, and frankly the real question may not be about the receivers, but whether or not we have a quarterback who can consistently get the ball to someone other than Julio. We didn't a year ago, and it's far from guaranteed that we will this year.
  • Moving over to the defensive side of the ball, Saban talked a good bit about the need to rush the passer after the first couple of days, and even hinted about putting someone at Jack linebacker who wasn't as adept at stopping the run. I've crunched the numbers on Adjusted Sack Rate for the 2008 season, and we were terrible at rushing the passer last year as well (not that it should come as any real surprise to someone paying attention), but it's clearly something we need to fix. This past year we were spectacular against the run, but our linebackers couldn't rush or cover the pass, and it looks like we may be making personnel moves to change that.
  • Terrence Cody continues to just get better and better. He keeps working hard in regard to his nutritional intake and the S&C program, and it's clearly paying off. If you look at the photos, he's noticeably a bit smaller than he was last year, and if he says his goal is playing at around 350 pounds this Fall, you have to figure he'll do just that. You have to tip your hat to Cody... since arriving at Alabama, he has not only met but far surpassed every goal and expectation set for him, and he looks to do that again in 2009. Truth be told, if he can stay healthy, he looks set for a monster year. With the two best centers from a year ago now moving to the NFL -- Arkansas' Johnathon Luigs and LSU's Brett Helms -- Cody ought to be a walking nightmare for centers. 
  • Aside from Cody, the defensive line's starting rotation seems to be fairly set right now. Cody is in the middle at nose guard, Deaderick remains at the natural defensive end position, and Lorenzo Washington has predictably stepped in to take Bobby Greenwood's combo end-tackle position. That's probably going to be the base unit moving forward, and if we stay healthy that will probably be how we start the season in 2009. Fortunately, though, the depth continues to improve. With Kerry Murphy now on campus, that has allowed us to move Marcel Dareus back out to defensive end, and the depth just present everywhere else in a way that we haven't seen in a long time, arguably since the early 1990's. And, thankfully, things will only improve this Fall when we see the arrival of Quinton Dial, Brandon Moore, Chris Bonds, Darrington Sentimore, Brandon Orr, and William Ming arrive. It's just hard to believe how much of a transformation this defensive line has undergone in the past twenty-four months.
  • The linebacker corps, much like the offensive line, is just in a state of flux, and a ton of different guys are being tried at a ton of different positions. It seems that the first team right now has Jerrell Harris at Sam, Rolando McClain at Mike, Cory Reamer at Will, and Dont'a Hightower at Jack. Coaches continue to rave about Hightower's abilities, and Harris is clearly starting to live up to his recruiting reputation. But wasn't he moving inside? Perhaps, but nothing is definite just now. About all we know right now is that Rolando McClain will be playing Mike on first and second down, but after that no one has a clue. There are probably about 10-12 different starting combinations you could come up with right now, and they'd all be legitimate... and that's before we factor in Nico Johnson, Tana Patrick, and Ed Stinson this Fall. Just as was the case with the offensive line, don't read too much into anything, and realize the situation as a whole is extremely fluid. 
  • The defensive backfield is also in a state of flux. Burton Scott is now being tried at corner, and not safety, but we are trying several different players in Rashad Johnson's old role. Fortunately it seems like we will leave Justin Woodall where he was a year ago -- which personally gives me a great sigh of relief -- and then try to find a replacement somewhere else on the roster for Johnson's old free safety position. Most interestingly has been that Robby Green, formerly a cornerback, has been working at that position, and frankly he's probably the one guy who is most similar in terms of skill set to what Johnson was. It also seems that from Saban's comments that Mark Barron might be playing more of the role currently occupied by Woodall, and we have tried several different players at free safety, including Ali Sharrief. And unfortunately, I still haven't heard Alonzo Lawrence's name mentioned, but hopefully that will change.  All told, we really don't know a whole lot right now. I think we generally know the guys who will be playing, and as a whole the athleticism and depth of the defensive backfield has greatly increased relative to last season, but it's hard to say for certain exactly who will be playing where right now. When I look at the defensive backfield right now, I see a lot of very exciting pieces, but no real way yet of knowing exactly how they all fit into the ultimate puzzle.
  • Finally, to close, the Crimson Tide will be off today (Thursday), before we get back in the swing of things again on Friday. The workout on Friday should be a fairly light workout in helmets and shorts, all in preparation for the first scrimmage of the Spring which will take place in Bryant-Denny Stadium on Saturday. We'll have a lot more knowledge about how everything looks to shake out following the first scrimmage.

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Whys you be a restin yous Laurel?

If I’s hads me a Laurel, I’s wood be a rocken her all nite long just likes the BALLIN BAMA BOOM TRAIN be a rocken all nite long to.

by BamaRulez on Mar 26, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're a regular Laurel and Hardy, BamaRulez.

"The will to win compares little with the will to prepare to win." - The Bear

by Bubba Chang on Mar 26, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm

starting to like this guy.

BALLIN BAMA BOOM TRAIN

Is it August yet?

by Bens4vcobra on Mar 26, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is great...

I love reading practice write-ups. Thanks, OTS. Glad someone is working while Todd is resting his laurel!

by BigChief on Mar 26, 2009 11:03 AM CDT reply actions  

Great write-up

I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.

by 5026 on Mar 26, 2009 12:22 PM CDT reply actions  

I am really

glad to hear Love is starting to show some life. It would be great if he could take step up. With Carpenter, Love here in the spring and Fluker coming in, we should see some real nice competition at the tackle position come the fall. I know a lot of people are worried about our O-line but i feel oddly confident that we have enough talent in place to put together one hell of a line.

‘When you build a house and you make it hurricane-proof by putting certain kinds of windows in it, and use cement instead of stick construction and all that kind of stuff, you’re getting prepared for what? A hurricane that may or may never every come." ’We’re going to have 12 hurricanes next year, we know they’re coming.’
- Coach Nick Saban

by bammer on Mar 26, 2009 1:04 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree...

My only concern with the offensive line is youth and inexperience, not raw talent.

Mike Johnson and Drew Davis are the only guys with any real experience. The rest of the guys seriously contending for playing time are either very young and / or inexperienced. Just look at the breakdown:

Tyler Love: Redshirt freshman

James Carpenter: JUCO transfer

Barrett Jones: Likely a redshirt freshman, no meaningful experience

John Michael Boswell: Sophomore, one of the most “experienced,” despite only seeing a couple of games

D.J. Fluker: True freshman, only played OL for about eight months

Chance Warmack: True freshman

Alfred McCullough: Sophomore, former DL switch, no game experience on OL

Brian Motley: Junior, no OL game experience

Taylor Pharr: Junior, no OL game experience

William Vlachos: Sophomore, no OL game experience

David Ross: Junior, saw back-up action a couple of times last year

And that’s basically our entire offensive line depth. Don’t get me wrong, you have to really like the raw talent of that group, but at the very least three starters will be coming from the aforementioned group, and that’s a bit of a concern. At the end of the day, when we line up against VT, it will be the first real game experience for at least three offensive linemen, and that will really make you sweat bullets. The raw talent is certainly there, but…

by outsidethesidelines on Mar 26, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

The way I see it

From left to right I see
LT-Warmack
LG-Johnson
C-Vlachos
RG-Ross
RT- Davis

I’ll take that, but like you said OTS, you have little experience. But you also have Evan Cardwell in that group that could make a run at someone. I always like him

"The game demonstrated the superiority of the Southern teams over any aggregation that the damn yankees could send across the Mason and Dixon Line." Sports writer Charles Israel of the Philadelphia Bulletin after the Tide's 61-6 win over Syracuse in the 1953 Orange Bowl.

by morri029 on Mar 26, 2009 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is that with guys currently

on campus…

‘When you build a house and you make it hurricane-proof by putting certain kinds of windows in it, and use cement instead of stick construction and all that kind of stuff, you’re getting prepared for what? A hurricane that may or may never every come." ’We’re going to have 12 hurricanes next year, we know they’re coming.’
- Coach Nick Saban

by bammer on Mar 26, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thats overall

I just don’t see how Fluker, no matter how talented, can pick up LT well enough in less than a year of playing the position step in for the defending SEC West Champs at one of the most demanding positions on the field. I could be wrong though, it has happened once or a thousand times

"The game demonstrated the superiority of the Southern teams over any aggregation that the damn yankees could send across the Mason and Dixon Line." Sports writer Charles Israel of the Philadelphia Bulletin after the Tide's 61-6 win over Syracuse in the 1953 Orange Bowl.

by morri029 on Mar 26, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well...

If he weren’t the most physically dominant OL prospect coming out of high school since Jonathon Ogden, then no one would.

No one should underestimate the tremendous difficulty of doing that, but if anyone could ever do it, undoubtedly it would be Fluker.

by outsidethesidelines on Mar 26, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

dont say things like that...

you make me feel things is strange places that my mommy said was a sin..

‘When you build a house and you make it hurricane-proof by putting certain kinds of windows in it, and use cement instead of stick construction and all that kind of stuff, you’re getting prepared for what? A hurricane that may or may never every come." ’We’re going to have 12 hurricanes next year, we know they’re coming.’
- Coach Nick Saban

by bammer on Mar 26, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes BamaRulez

But, Lane, shouldn’t you be out ripping your shirt off in front of recruits, or coaching up those “UT Wildboys” instead of posting here?

"The game demonstrated the superiority of the Southern teams over any aggregation that the damn yankees could send across the Mason and Dixon Line." Sports writer Charles Israel of the Philadelphia Bulletin after the Tide's 61-6 win over Syracuse in the 1953 Orange Bowl.

by morri029 on Mar 26, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's all so clear now

Apparently this guy’s a grad student in Auburn’s Animal Husbandry program…

See here

by Bama philosophe on Mar 26, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ogden

You think he is more dominant the Andre was coming out?

"The game demonstrated the superiority of the Southern teams over any aggregation that the damn yankees could send across the Mason and Dixon Line." Sports writer Charles Israel of the Philadelphia Bulletin after the Tide's 61-6 win over Syracuse in the 1953 Orange Bowl.

by morri029 on Mar 26, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's just a physical build issue...

Andre was very sound technically coming out and had good size too. However, when Ogden came out he was a legitimate 6’9 and 300+ pounds, all with damn good feet to boot.

No one, sans Fluker, has came out of the high school level with that combination of height, weight, and athleticism since.

by outsidethesidelines on Mar 26, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ahhhh

I see what your saying. He has that ability, raw as it may be, to be better than Andre.
if he lives up to the billing
LT-Fluker
LG-Johnson
C-Vlachos
RG- Warmack
RT- Davis

Wow looking solid

"The game demonstrated the superiority of the Southern teams over any aggregation that the damn yankees could send across the Mason and Dixon Line." Sports writer Charles Israel of the Philadelphia Bulletin after the Tide's 61-6 win over Syracuse in the 1953 Orange Bowl.

by morri029 on Mar 26, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that's right...

I’m not saying Fluker is a better player at this point than Andre, I’m just saying from a physical perspective Fluker is a one in a kind type player.

I mean, physically speaking, this guy makes Andre look small.

by outsidethesidelines on Mar 26, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I need to have a moment now….

"The game demonstrated the superiority of the Southern teams over any aggregation that the damn yankees could send across the Mason and Dixon Line." Sports writer Charles Israel of the Philadelphia Bulletin after the Tide's 61-6 win over Syracuse in the 1953 Orange Bowl.

by morri029 on Mar 26, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

you go ahead...

i had mine earlier….

‘When you build a house and you make it hurricane-proof by putting certain kinds of windows in it, and use cement instead of stick construction and all that kind of stuff, you’re getting prepared for what? A hurricane that may or may never every come." ’We’re going to have 12 hurricanes next year, we know they’re coming.’
- Coach Nick Saban

by bammer on Mar 26, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

They

guy is built like a house. No “excess” weight on him anywhere.

Is it August yet?

by Bens4vcobra on Mar 27, 2009 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

I see Carpenter in there somewhere. I think Saban wouldnt bring in a JUCO for 2 years just to use up a scholly on the bench.

by bamainexile on Mar 26, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I forget...

…did Andre Smith come in early (i.e., during spring camp) when he started as a frosh or did he come to campus in the summer?

"The will to win compares little with the will to prepare to win." - The Bear

by Bubba Chang on Mar 26, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought i saw

Motley get some snaps in the UT and AU game? NOt that it matters much but i thought i saw him on the field once or twice?

‘When you build a house and you make it hurricane-proof by putting certain kinds of windows in it, and use cement instead of stick construction and all that kind of stuff, you’re getting prepared for what? A hurricane that may or may never every come." ’We’re going to have 12 hurricanes next year, we know they’re coming.’
- Coach Nick Saban

by bammer on Mar 26, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

He did...

Motley saw some time in garbage time, and a little on special teams, but no “real” time. Obviously, you don’t get any meaningful experience by playing a couple of snaps while up 36-0 against Auburn with two minutes left.

by outsidethesidelines on Mar 26, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

very true..

‘When you build a house and you make it hurricane-proof by putting certain kinds of windows in it, and use cement instead of stick construction and all that kind of stuff, you’re getting prepared for what? A hurricane that may or may never every come." ’We’re going to have 12 hurricanes next year, we know they’re coming.’
- Coach Nick Saban

by bammer on Mar 26, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

…has greatly increased relative to last season,

You just couldn’t help yourself.

Is it August yet?

by Bens4vcobra on Mar 26, 2009 3:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Defensive Backs

The only thing I care about coming out of the spring is that we find enough guys who can play corner and the nickel/dime positions so that #24 is buried so deep on the bench that he won’t even be able to see the field from where he sits. If he never plays another meaningful down for us it will still be too soon for Johnson to get in another game. Every time we got burned last year, I knew before the camera went to a wide enough angle to finally see our guy that he would be the one frantically trying to figure out what happened. Biggest weakness on the entire team last year.

by Watchman on Mar 26, 2009 4:53 PM CDT reply actions  

You are correct sir.

I can not see Johnson becoming good enough to play with the guys we have now (and this is before Dre every even shows up.) I would say if he does play it is a sign that we are not very good in the secondary.

Maybe he could be good as a punt blocker?

I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.

by 5026 on Mar 26, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

What a joke

Bama is losing the recruiting battle!!! Satin’s word cant win over parent’s or even there kids. They see all the lies and weasel like trend that is his career and life. Call it as you see it. Acts like a weasel, looks like a weasel, talks like a weasel. HE IS A WEASEL. but he could have some competion with the rat Lane Giffen. Bama wont win the championship with a weasel at the helm. Karma haunts him justly.

by TigersRollBamaLSU on Mar 28, 2009 5:39 PM CDT reply actions  

maybe I should change my screen name to...

HogsbeatTigersARK or RebelsspankTigersOM or DogsbiteTigersUGA or GatorschompTigersUF or SabanstompsTigersBama…so many choices

by RammerJammer23 on Mar 29, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Moonbeam oatmeal Band-aid!

Hey, makes as much sense as the above post.

Seriously, was that English?

by MetallibamA on Mar 30, 2009 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ummmm......

Proof?

If Chuck Norris and Nick Saban got in to a fight, we would all have to hide underground. For 7 months the earth would be uninhabitable, ash would rain from the sky, sonic booms could be heard in the distance, and skeletons of those who were unfortunate enough to meet the two would litter the landscape. Let us pray to almighty God that these two never cross each others path.

by J.JACOBS4PRES on Mar 29, 2009 12:22 AM CDT reply actions  

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