Spring Practice News & Notes
Things have been quite busy as of late between real life and Yea Alabama, but I did want to take some time and get up some content on how things are developing with Spring practice. You know the routine:
- Greg McElroy has not been perfect, but he has been very solid thus far, and there is no real doubt that he is clearly the leader in the quarterback race. In the two scrimmages thus far, McElroy has gone 34-59 (57.6%) for 324 yards, 6 touchdowns, and 4 interceptions. Those numbers are far from spectacular, but again they are solid (especially given the windy conditions of the second scrimmage) and they greatly out-distance the rest of the field. Moreover, parsing the tea leaves, if you dissect what Saban says, every time he gets onto something that might not look positive in McElroy's favor, he always emphasizes that it is the result of external factors beyond his control, such as poor wide receiver play, a blown block, etc. At this point, it's clear that McElroy is our quarterback, and going forward the inescapable conclusion seems to be that we will either sink or swim with the native Texan. We still do not know whether or not Saban will officially name him the starter at the end of Spring, but at this point it is a matter of semantics.
- The real race seems to be for the back-up position. Scrimmage statistics are not the end-all, be-all, but nevertheless Star Jackson's combined showing of 11-28 for 37 yards, 1 touchdown, and 1 interception never looks good regardless. Jackson has immense physical potential, but most knew he was a developmental quarterback when we signed him, and it looks like he has a very long way to go at this point. Truth be told, right now it seems that Thomas Darrah is probably out-performing Jackson. He has seen more snaps and has posted much better production. Of course, he has a huge arm, but the concern is that he stares down routes a bit and holds onto the ball too long. Darrah may be a decent back-up option because he can stretch the field vertically with his arm, and that combined with a good rushing attack could form a decent, even if not spectacular, combination. Nevertheless, at this point there seems to be a very big gap between these two and McElroy, and if McElroy goes down this one could turn ugly.
- We continue to have good luck with the injury bug. Mike Johnson, Mark Ingram, and Chris Jackson have all missed time with minor injuries, but all have returned. In particular, both Johnson and Ingram returned to practice from ankle and hamstring injuries, respectively, yesterday.
- Earlier in the Spring I wrote that the absence of Ingram and Upchurch could help us sort out back-end of the tailback rotation, but it has been hard to see anything definite. Terry Grant had a decent first scrimmage, but followed that up with a 16 carry, 2 yard performance in the second scrimmage. Moreover, the rest of the guys have done little to speak of. Ivan Matchett has nice statistics from the second scrimmage, but Saban made it clear that nearly all of the production came on one run against the third-string defense. Jeramie Griffin continues to look pretty decent as a short-yardage option, but with Upchurch, Ingram, and Richardson, those guys can handle short-yardage situations just fine on their own. Griffin looks to be a talented prospect, but he is not really filling a need at the moment. It shouldn't be anything overly surprising, but I think what we have learned this Spring is that none of these guys are going to see meaningful playing time above the triumvirate of Upchurch, Ingram, and Richardson.
- In the second scrimmage, the rushing attack was simply atrocious, and when factoring out the Matchett scamper, we averaged about two feet per carry on 42 carries. Some may see that as cause for concern, but I wouldn't worry. None of the tailbacks currently getting the ball will be seeing it in meaningful situations this Fall, our best returning offensive lineman is missing (Mike Johnson), and besides, with a healthy Terrence Cody anchoring the middle, we will probably have the toughest run defense in the nation. Combined, our running game really doesn't have even a fighting chance this Spring.
- Darius Hanks continues to have an impressive Spring. In the two scrimmages thus far, he has caught 14 balls for 103 yards, and has been making himself known. If you recall, Hanks was a practice squad star in 2007, and big things were expected of him in 2008, but it just never materialized. Now, once again, Hanks continues to be very strong in practice, but the real question is going to be whether or not that can translate over into the regular season this time around.
- For other receivers, one that keeps getting mentioned is Mike McCoy. It's hard to believe that he is now a senior, and he wants to go out on top. He has been a bit more outspoken this Spring, and has seemingly developed as a receiver. Saban and company have always loved McCoy for his size and his abilities as a run blocker, but the actual receiving production just hasn't quite came around. Nevertheless, he is having a good Spring thus far, and it looks like he may be stepping up, alonside Hanks, as the early favorites to see playing time along with Julio Jones.
- With the offensive line, James Carpenter has locked up the left tackle position, while Drew Davis remains a stalwart at right tackle. The right guard position is still up for battle, but most still expect John Michael Boswell to eventually emerge victorious. Mike Johnson has been out at left guard, and in his place Bryan Motley has played and from all reports has looked pretty good. The center position still has a battle going between Vlachos and Ross, and while it seems that Ross may be the leader there, apparently our centers have been consistently eaten alive by the interior defensive line, so I'm not sure that's saying anything. At at rate, the smart money on the starting five right now, moving left to right, seems to be James Carpenter, Mike Johnson, David Ross, John Michael Boswell, and Drew Davis. Do not set that one in stone just yet, though, because with Pendry's philosophy of getting the best five on the field, an injury to just one lineman or the emergence of just one other lineman could completely alter the composition of the starting five.
- Defensively, the run defense has been inpenetrable as expected, but the pass rush seems to have really stepped up. We have gotten a lot of sacks, and while some of that is certainly due to the re-shuffling of the offensive line, Saban has generally noted that we have done a better job at rushing the passer this year. We're seemingly getting better production out of the linebacker corps, Lorenzo Washington is having a good Spring, and Marcel Dareus is really starting to come along.
- Tyrone King certainly deserves to have his name mentioned. The former Grambling transfer earned himself a scholarship last season, but has really had a great Spring thus far. In the first two scrimmages, he has had 11 tackles, 3 interceptions (including one returned for a touchdown), and 3 passes broken up. King is another one of those gutsy players that Saban is so fond of, and he deserves a lot of credit for what he has done. My instinct tells me that he won't ultimately end up a starter, but that he will play quite a bit in nickel and dime situations. King is simply the type of player you want to root for, and his hard work will be rewarded accordingly this Fall.
- At safety, we still have a ways to go but it certainly is starting to seem like that Robby Green will be taking over Rashad Johnson's old role. I wrote in one of the previous updates that Green was probably, in terms of physical ability, more similar to Johnson than any other player currently on the roster, and it seems like he is starting to emerge as the front-runner at safety. From the looks of things thus far, we'll try to keep things largely as they were last year, with Woodall playing in more a strong safety role while Green plays free. Hopefully it will work well, Green has good mobility and he has the mix of range and intelligence that you want with a free safety. I do not expect him to be as good of a contributor in the running game, but with our front seven that shouldn't be a problem.
- All in all, you really have to feel confident about or defensive backfield. Everyone aside from Johnson returns from a year ago, and there has been a lot of development among the returning players. Aside from the aforementioned Green, Burton Scott has apparently made the transition to cornerback quite successfully, Tyrone King has stepped up, and Saban has gone out of his way to explicitly state that he expected big contributions out of Mark Barron this year (an unusual occurance for the ol' Nicktator). And of course that does not even begin to include the shortcoming matriculation of Dre Kirkpatrick and Rod Woodson (who has successfully addressed his academic situation). All told, the Alabama pass defense was extremely good last year -- more on that when I release the 2008 SEC pass defense statistics -- and with an improved pass rush and a much deeper defensive backfield for 2009, opponents ought to dread throwing the football against us.
- With special teams P.J. Fitzgerald has been somewhat solid, even if not spectacular. He's averaging around 40 yards per punt, and while I'm sure his hang time is still nothing special, that is probably as good as he has punted since arriving on the Capstone. Meanwhile, it certainly seems like the whole Corey Smith project has been deemed a failure. Aside from the fact that we are offering firm scholarships to both kickers and punters in the 2010 recruiting class, Smith has attempted only two field goals in scrimmages thus far, and zero punts. And with Leigh Tiffin, in the second scrimmage, he hit from 54, 29, and 24, but missed twice from 43. His amazingly consistent inconsistency continues...
Finally, I would like to close by urging all of you to attend the A-Day game this Saturday. It looks like the Weather Gods are going to give us a nice day for Spring football -- assuming a passing shower or two holds off -- and the incredible turnouts that we have had the past two years have had a phenomenal impact on Alabama. We literally now have recruits who are widely considered locks for other schools coming to Tuscaloosa from opposite ends of the country, on their own dime, just to see the spectacle of 75,000+ people to show up for a glorified practice. Bottom line, the passion and dedication that we have collectively shown for Alabama football the past two years via the A-Day game have had a tremendous positive impact on the program as a whole, and if there is any way you can attend this year's game, please do so. I'll be there, and hopefully the rest of you guys can make it as well.
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Great report
I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.
by 5026 on Apr 15, 2009 10:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
we averaged about two feet per carry on 42 carries

by brandonh on Apr 15, 2009 10:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
HA HA HA HA HA
"The game demonstrated the superiority of the Southern teams over any aggregation that the damn yankees could send across the Mason and Dixon Line." Sports writer Charles Israel of the Philadelphia Bulletin after the Tide's 61-6 win over Syracuse in the 1953 Orange Bowl.
by morri029 on Apr 15, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
RBR Tailgate
So did this get finalized as of happening or not?
"The game demonstrated the superiority of the Southern teams over any aggregation that the damn yankees could send across the Mason and Dixon Line." Sports writer Charles Israel of the Philadelphia Bulletin after the Tide's 61-6 win over Syracuse in the 1953 Orange Bowl.
by morri029 on Apr 15, 2009 11:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No clue...
I know I cannot arrange it because I’m driving up from several hours away one gameday, but some of the people closer to Tuscaloosa may be able to get something arranged.
by outsidethesidelines on Apr 15, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
im def not in charge
Reference Iron Bowl last year
"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit."
by comer4tide on Apr 16, 2009 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
our best returning offensive lineman is missing (Mike Johnson), and besides, with a healthy Terrence Cody anchoring the middle, we will probably have the toughest run defense in the nation.
I thought the first team offense ran against the 2nd team defense in all the scrimmage?
parsing the tea leaves
I see what you did there.
Is it August yet?
by Bens4vcobra on Apr 15, 2009 11:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought the first team offense ran against the 2nd team defense in all the scrimmage?
That is often true, but it is not always the case. You see a variety of combinations taking place throughout the scrimmage work.
by outsidethesidelines on Apr 15, 2009 11:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Back-up QB
Great write up as usual. It probably deserves a mention that most of Star’s reps have come against the 1st team, while Darrah has seen mostly reps against the third stringers.
It looks like the defense is going to be nasty if we can stay healthy!
by Kenny483 on Apr 15, 2009 11:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i think Starr is the backup
and you may see a 2 qb system when the time calls for it
"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit."
by comer4tide on Apr 16, 2009 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know this post is for current players / spring practice but...
has anyone heard anything about Eddie Lacy and his elligibility? Is he going to have to go to JUCO first??? If he made it our RB lineup would be ridiculous: Ingram, Richardson, Upchurch, Lacy, Grant, etc. etc. Also, does anyone think that Ed Stinson has a chance at playing this year? If I’m thinking of the right player, I remember hearing that he was a pretty good pass-rusher. And I know Saban wants to improve from last years pass rushing. Thanks.
by RammerJammer23 on Apr 15, 2009 1:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No one really knows...
All that we know with Lacy is that at this point he has a legitimate chance. Whether or not he will make it is just something we will have to wait and see. We had guys in worse shape than he was a year ago still make it, but that doesn’t mean it’s going to happen for him.
As for Stinson, he might play some situationally, but hopefully he can redshirt. We should be in pretty good shape with Fanney / Upshaw / Anders at Jack, plus with Hightower playing there situationally as well. Stinson’s raw athleticism could be an asset in obvious passing situations, but he needs to put on some weight. He might play, but it would be nice if we could redshirt him.
by outsidethesidelines on Apr 15, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OTS
said he was planning a write up on the recruiting class and he will discuss who’s in and who’s a grey shirt etc… its just a little soon at this point because these kid’s school year hasn’t even ended yet. So there’s no point in really doing a write up when all of guys who haven’t qualified yet, still can.
Is it August yet?
by Bens4vcobra on Apr 15, 2009 2:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it possible...
… that Saban will hold off on naming GMac as a starter even if he’s the clear front-runner because he promised to allow McCarron to compete for the spot? I don’t know if “promise” is the right word since I know the Nicktator doesn’t make stupid promises like giving a true freshman the first carry of the year, but I do remember seeing something about how McCarron has had the playbook for awhile, was already emerging as a leader, and expected to come in and compete for the job.
Along those lines: are there any chances at all that McCarron could actually take the job? I didn’t follow him as a high school player, and I know that it’s almost unheard of to start a true freshman in the SEC, but I still think Saban will put the best person out there. Anyone have odds on that?
by Espyonage on Apr 15, 2009 2:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Think LSU last year..
We DON"T want him to start….if he does he better be clear 100% favorite…
‘When you build a house and you make it hurricane-proof by putting certain kinds of windows in it, and use cement instead of stick construction and all that kind of stuff, you’re getting prepared for what? A hurricane that may or may never every come." ’We’re going to have 12 hurricanes next year, we know they’re coming.’
- Coach Nick Saban
by bammer on Apr 15, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I
am speaking totally from an outsiders perspective but I would think it would be very difficult for any true freshman to start at QB at this level. There’s just so much in front of them. First, there’s the trust factor. As coach, do you really trust a feshman with the ball every play? I don’t care how gifted the kid is, that’s a lot to ask. And then there’s the chemestry factor. Who is AJ McCarron? The existing players on the team, the key contributors, don’t know him. Compare that to a guy like McElory. He’s been around. He’s paid his dues. He knows the players on the team, they know him. The coaches know him and trust him, he’s an upper classman and most likely more mature than any freshman on the team. Its just not about arm strength. McCarron could show up in the fall and totally out perform every other QB on the roster in drills, but trusting a freshman in an actual game, with the ball in his hands on every play, that’s tough.
Is it August yet?
by Bens4vcobra on Apr 15, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And
to add to that, if a true freshman, an 18 year old kid comes in and wins the starting job at Alabama, what does that say about the other QB’s on our team? Not good things.
Is it August yet?
by Bens4vcobra on Apr 15, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
People wanted Star Jackson to start last year......
and given his performance this spring, that obviously had no chance of happening.
People fall in love with the new recruit but I see zero chance McCarron plays this year.
by CJackson on Apr 15, 2009 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I forget who said it...
…but all too often the backup quarterback is the most popular guy on campus.
"The Saban method isn’t for everyone."
-CJackson
by Bubba Chang on Apr 16, 2009 7:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Realistically..
I do not see AJ competing for the starting job. From film I have seen, I personally don’t think he is physically ready to take snaps in the SEC. I think his upside is tremendous, but he is still 2 or 3 years away from making an impact. Anything is possible, but he is probably looking at a redshirt.
by BigChief on Apr 15, 2009 2:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I
heard a guy on the radio down here in Mobile who’s brother’s uncle’s cousin saw AJ at a gas station and said he looks like he’s been killing it the weight room. Looked jacked by all accounts.
Is it August yet?
by Bens4vcobra on Apr 15, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
please tell me the
brothers, uncles, cousin bit was a joke.
‘When you build a house and you make it hurricane-proof by putting certain kinds of windows in it, and use cement instead of stick construction and all that kind of stuff, you’re getting prepared for what? A hurricane that may or may never every come." ’We’re going to have 12 hurricanes next year, we know they’re coming.’
- Coach Nick Saban
by bammer on Apr 15, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would Saban?
Would Saban start McCarron, if he felt he were the best player? Certainly.
However, I think the odds of that are ungodly low. McCarron will be a very good player in the future, but he needs a redshirt. It would be nice if McElroy could play well for a couple of years, and then let Jackson and McCarron battle it out as a redshirt junior and a redshirt sophomore, respectively.
by outsidethesidelines on Apr 15, 2009 2:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That's what is kinda happening now at 'SC in their Spring camp
At one time, they had Garrett Green, Mark Sanchez, and Aaron Corp as underclassmen waiting in the wings. John David Booty took a good year or two off Sanchez and Corp/Green. Green ended up going to WR and gunner (GUNNER!) on special teams (just so he could see the field, he’s one of my favorite Trojan players. go figure).
Now, there’s Mustain, Corp, Green and this new hotshot called Matt Barkley fighting it out in camp. Speculation is that, considering Coach Carroll won’t name a starter til Fall (he is famous for naming a starter after Spring ball, this is the first year he won’t) – couple that with the fact that we have a new OC in Bates (Sark and Holt went to U-Dub in Seattle this year) who has eased the terminology and merged similiar sets in the Offensive Playbook- it has helped Barkley tremendously and he is actually neck and neck with Corp and Mustain.
My favorite of the group is Mustain, but he is getting down on himself for not pulling ahead of everyone at this point. I went and saw Matt Barkley and . . . . .WOW! This kid is big, fast, strong and has closed-the-gap with all those juniors in competition. Corp has the edge simply by being “in the system” longer and he has the wheels. Also, he’s only thrown 6 INT’s this camp. Mustain has held his own, but he still pulls that bigass trigger of his in traffic and has made some insane plays but he’s also thrown some Pick-6’s (2) in doing so. Barkley is nailing his 7 on 7’s and he’s the best in that regard, also- he’s the top in the red zone plays. MB is smart, strong, and capable of starting as a true freshman.
Things get crowded fast in the QB is all I’m trying to convey here. The “best” should play and start.
I’m surprised at Star’s lack of true development. 2 years in the system and he’s still having trouble with McElwain’s system. That’s weird. McElwain is one of the brightest OC’s on the planet, I’m sure he’s bent over backward with accommodating easy-to-use terminology and eliminating extraneous sets. His complex formations might give pause, but the sets will change throughout the season in those formations simply because word travels fast in the SEC and we’ve gotta keep everyone on their toes.
I happen to like GMac, if McElwain accommodates GMac like he did JP last year, I see our offense moving the chains and controlling time of possession- thereby keeping our insane D fresh and with a “heightened killer instinct” every single damn play of every single damn game!
How long til Upchurch and the others stay out? Any indications their injuries last in through Fall camp?
Comer4tide to Nico2.0: "How come I've never heard of any of your random songs?"
Todd to Comer: "Because if you had, he wouldn't listen to it. BOOM. Roasted."
Nico to Todd: "Shouldn't you be off voguing somewhere?"
by BixBeiderbecke on Apr 15, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I’ve been reading really good things about Barkley. Damn you SC…
Is it August yet?
by Bens4vcobra on Apr 15, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
FSU
made a living at replacing an outgoing senior with a Junior…that was until Rix.
‘When you build a house and you make it hurricane-proof by putting certain kinds of windows in it, and use cement instead of stick construction and all that kind of stuff, you’re getting prepared for what? A hurricane that may or may never every come." ’We’re going to have 12 hurricanes next year, we know they’re coming.’
- Coach Nick Saban
by bammer on Apr 15, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would be surprised.....
to AJ come in and take the starting job, because GMac has the experience and I believe that time in this system puts him to far above and raw talent, for now. I’m not one that says just because you’ve been around, the job is yours. IMO that is not the way CNS thinks either. The best qb will start, and I think that seems to be GMac.
As far as Mustain goes, Bix, I can’t say that I have a lot of sympathy for him. The way the Arkansas mess unfolded its hard to feel sorry for him. And now, Barkley coming in and shining will spell doom for Mitch. Div II is still a possiblity.
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge.
by jtCRIMSON on Apr 15, 2009 4:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
How
crazy eyes can even still recruit after that debacle is beyond me.
Is it August yet?
by Bens4vcobra on Apr 16, 2009 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok a question about the linemen situation
DJ flukner!! what about him?? i havent heard anything on him during spring!! I thought he was supposed to take over andre smiths spot!? is he redshirted or injured or what!?
The same things win that always won, and we just have a bunch of new excuses as to why we didnt achieve it!!! RDT
by bamacamp84 on Apr 16, 2009 8:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He's warming up for High School Graduation
"The game demonstrated the superiority of the Southern teams over any aggregation that the damn yankees could send across the Mason and Dixon Line." Sports writer Charles Israel of the Philadelphia Bulletin after the Tide's 61-6 win over Syracuse in the 1953 Orange Bowl.
by morri029 on Apr 16, 2009 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Incoming
freshman do not participate in spring practice. We won’t know anything about the ’09 class until fall practice.
Is it August yet?
by Bens4vcobra on Apr 16, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
With the exception of
Warmack, who graduated in December
"The game demonstrated the superiority of the Southern teams over any aggregation that the damn yankees could send across the Mason and Dixon Line." Sports writer Charles Israel of the Philadelphia Bulletin after the Tide's 61-6 win over Syracuse in the 1953 Orange Bowl.
by morri029 on Apr 16, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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