Spring Practice News & Notes
Real life has been rudely intruding as of late, plus Yea Alabama obligations, so there haven't been any real Spring practice updates here at RBR, but thankfully that's about to change. Here goes:
- Now that we are more than halfway through Spring practice, and with the A-Day game being a mere ten days away, I think it should be pointed out from the outset that we have continued to be fortunate on the injury front. Oh sure we've had a few minor, nagging injuries to guys like Mark Ingram and Mike Johnson, but nothing major. You never want to see anyone suffer a serious injury in the Spring because that generally means the will either miss the following season entirely or be hampered throughout a large portion of the season, so the good health of the roster thus far has been a positive sign, and hopefully one that will continue.
- It comes as no surprise that the quarterback battle has taken center stage this Spring, but the strong showing thus far by Greg McElroy has been a bit of a surprise. He had a terrible Spring a year ago, but thankfully he has looked much better this season. The statistical disparity between himself and Star Jackson in the first scrimmage should be viewed in the context that Jackson was played with less talent around (i.e. the second-team offense), and a better opponent (i.e. the first team defense), but nevertheless it seems relatively clear at this point that McElroy is doing what he needs to do in order to win the starting job. Things are still early, but the smart money is clearly on McElroy at this point.
- With Mark Ingram possibly missing the rest of Spring practice with a minor injury, that may actually work out well for us. With Ingram on the exercise bike, the likely top three tailbacks in 2009 are not currently participating -- Upchurch is not cleared for contact drills, and Trent Richardson is still in Pensacola -- and in real terms that means guys like Terry Grant, Jeramie Griffin, Ivan Matchett, Jermaine Preyer, and Demetrius Goode will be getting all of the practice reps. Had Ingram and Upchurch been healthy they would have drastically had their reps reduced, but now those guys get much more in terms of opportunities to show themselves. In other words, it gives our coaching staff a better chance to evaluate these players, and furthermore it gives the players in question opportunities to prove themselves that they would have otherwise not received. All in all, you never want to see anyone miss time, but in this particular case it could actually prove beneficial to the Tide.
- The tight end position has been taken, predictably, by Georgia Tech transfer Colin Peek, who had a great scrimmage recently. Truth be told, many thought that Peek would actually represent an upgrade over the departed Nick Walker, and early indications seem to prove those notions correct. The real question is after Peek, with regard to who takes over Travis McCall's old role as a bruising blocker in the running game. I'm afraid that only redshirt freshman Michael Williams has the physical skill set needed to do that, and we'll just have to see how he performs later on this Spring.
- The offensive line is apparently somewhat set. James Carpenter has stepped into the left tackle position and played well, as hoped, and it looks like he has that starting job locked down. Moreover, Mike Johnson and Drew Davis have the starting jobs locked down, respectively, at left guard and right tackle. However, the starting jobs at right guard and center are currently very much up for grabs.
- At center, there is a heated battle between William Vlachos and David Ross. Evan Cardwell is also at center, but he isn't going to be a factor, and the race is clearly between Vlachos and Ross. All in all, Vlachos is your more prototypical center, and that's most likely the only position he can really play. He's a short guy with short arms (i.e. not a tackle), and he's probably not the big road grader you need at guard, so it's either center or bust with him. David Ross, on the other hand, could play guard (and did last year), and could possibly move back there if he loses out on the center battle with Vlachos. He's still learning the ropes a bit at center, but the staff has clearly been impressed. Of course Saban has no official depth chart, but judging by the administrative groupings -- now there's a nice way of getting around that -- it looks like Ross is slightly ahead of Vlachos at this point, but we'll have to wait and see if he can hang on.
- Right guard is also up for grabs at this point, although perhaps to a lesser degree. Many expected that David Ross, John Michael Boswell, and Chance Warmack would fight things out, but that battle hasn't quite taken shape since Ross has been moved to center. Chance Warmack has played well early on, but Boswell has continued to build off a strong true freshman campaign, and it certainly looks like the job is his.
- Things are obviously still very early, but as of right now, the starting five on the offensive line, going left to right, seems like James Carpenter, Mike Johnson, David Ross, John Michael Boswell, and Drew Davis.
- Defensively, the defensive line is pretty much set with a starting rotation. Terrance Cody will man the nose guard position, while Lorenzo Washington will play the end-tackle combo position, with Brandon Deaderick remaining at the natural defensive end position. Fortunately, though, the real news is that the quality depth continues to be very good, and we should be able to continuously rotate players with no real drop-off. At this point, I think we could rotate in Marcel Dareus and Luther Davis at the end positions with no real drop-off in production.
- The linebacker corps is pretty much in disarray, and frankly it's almost impossible to get any concrete conclusions from all of the shuffling. However, I do want to take this point about linebackers to discuss Brandon Fanney, who, though now returned, was suspended for approximately half of Spring practice. Unfortunately for Fanney, a Spring suspension that long, I think, almost guarantees that he will also be suspended for a time once the season rolls around. At the very least, he's at the bottom of the depth chart now at Jack linebacker, and though he should be back for the conference opener, I think the odds are that he will be suspended for the Virginia Tech game.
- The defensive backfield is also in a state of disarray, and again it's almost impossible to get any concrete conclusions. Former walk-on Tyrone King has impressed some people and might be in line for some meaningful playing time come this Fall, but after that no one really knows. We all know the basic group of guys that will be seeing time -- Jackson, Arenas, Woodall, Barron, etc. -- but at this point it's all impossible to say who goes where when. Nearly all of these guys are being used at several different positions, and if you were trying to tell who would end up where, it would essentially be monkeys throwing darts at a board. Only time will tell in the defensive backfield, and even after Spring practice ends, things could be drastically altered this Fall by the arrival of Rod Woodson and Dre Kirkpatrick.
- Finally, to close, in the first scrimmage Leigh Tiffin was 3-6 on field goal opportunities. He hit from 20, 42, and 45, but missed from 32, 45, and 54. Nice to see Tiffin remains consistently reliable as usual...
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Awesome analysis
As always
"The game demonstrated the superiority of the Southern teams over any aggregation that the damn yankees could send across the Mason and Dixon Line." Sports writer Charles Israel of the Philadelphia Bulletin after the Tide's 61-6 win over Syracuse in the 1953 Orange Bowl.
by morri029 on Apr 8, 2009 8:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Great analysis...
I know you mentioned Tyler Love coming along well in your last notes, but any other info on his progress?
How about Alonzo Lawrenece? He was such a shut down corner in the HS All-Star games, but do you think he has a shot at starting?
Depth is O so good.
by BigChief on Apr 8, 2009 9:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The offensive line is apparently somewhat set. James Carpenter has stepped into the left tackle position and played well, as hoped, and it looks like he has that starting job locked down.
That is until the big man arrives come August.
Is it August yet?
by Bens4vcobra on Apr 8, 2009 9:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dude!
word for word, quote for quote, I was about to post the EXACT same thing! Nice job.
Jim, you're 6'11" and weigh 95 lbs. Gumby has a better frame than you. Boom! Roasted.
Oh hey Angela! I couldn't see you behind that stick! Boom! Roasted.
Kevin - I couldn't decide between a dumb joke and a fat joke. Boom! Roasted.
Oscar - You're gay. Boom! Roasted.
Meredith - You've had sex with so many men you're starting to look like one. Boom! Roasted.
Stanley - You crush your wife during sex and your heart sucks. Boom! Roasted.
Andy - You're gayer than Oscar. Boom! Roasted.
by BamaReturns07 on Apr 8, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great minds post alike!
Is it August yet?
by Bens4vcobra on Apr 8, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just think if he does play left...
carpenter could play right….my god that would be one hell of an offensive tackle position…throw in Mike at L guard…the talent we have at center and RG….this Oline actually could be better (talent wise) then the ’08 crew…
‘When you build a house and you make it hurricane-proof by putting certain kinds of windows in it, and use cement instead of stick construction and all that kind of stuff, you’re getting prepared for what? A hurricane that may or may never every come." ’We’re going to have 12 hurricanes next year, we know they’re coming.’
- Coach Nick Saban
by bammer on Apr 8, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's
no doubt we have talent, the most I’ve seen top to bottom since I can remember. I guess the question is just finding where everybody fits.
Is it August yet?
by Bens4vcobra on Apr 8, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great write up OTS.
I especially like the line about Tiffin.
I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.
by 5026 on Apr 8, 2009 9:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good stuff
Truth be told OTS, your writeups were the reason I started frequenting this site way back when.
I’ve got a question: Will Robby Green be able to take over Rashad’s spot? I’m hearing good things from multiple sources but I wondered whether you had an opinion.
Also, I tend to agree with you about Carpenter having the LT position locked up. I just don’t think Saban takes a chance on a two-year guy without knowing he’s an immediate starter and I believe DJ, who I think will be the next “Mt. Cody” fan favorite, will still need time to develop and learn the techniques and the blocking schemes this year (possible redshirt unless someone gets hurt).
As far as the Jack is concerned, do you see Donta moving over and Nico taking the inside spot? It just seems to me like that is the most likely scenario, judging by what Saban has done the last two years with true freshman MLBs that can’t be kept off the field.
by theotherend on Apr 8, 2009 10:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A few thoughts...
Green has looked good thus far, and honestly he is probably the most similar player (relative to Rashad) that we have in terms of his abilities in pass coverage. He’s got decent height, good jumping ability, and he’s got the raw speed to have a hell of a lot of range. Moreover, he’s clearly a smart player, which is a pre-requisite for playing that position under Saban. And to that extent, I think he could be a good replacement for Rashad. However, I do worry about his lack of size in the running game. He’s probably a good 20 pounds lighter than Johnson, and that makes you worry a bit. Perhaps we could see a platoon system where a guy like Barron or Sharrief plays more on running downs, and Green comes in more on passing downs.
As for Jack, I really don’t know. I do think Fanney is probably done there as a starter, just being honest, but the replacement is hard to say. If Johnson could come in and take the Will spot right away, I’m sure the staff would love to have Hightower at Jack, but that’s easier said than done. Plus you also have to keep in mind that as well as Anders has rushed the passer, he’s going to get on the field some also.
Moreover, don’t count out Courtney Upshaw. He’s too good to keep off the field, plain and simple, and frankly he might be a better fit at Jack linebacker on rushing downs than Hightower. The problem you run into with Hightower is that while you love his ability to rush off the edge, he’s not really the guy you want to have with his hand on the ground as an end, and that’s required of the Jack linebacker as well. Upshaw could do a much better job at handling those demands.
Again, saying exactly how it works out is almost impossible to say right now, but frankly I expect a lot of flexibility. I think you’ll see Hightower inside at the Will at times, but I wouldn’t be surprised a bit if he spent some time at Jack as well. That could allow Johnson on the field situationally, particularly on passing downs.
I think perhaps the easiest way to put it right now is that Upshaw, Hightower, and Anders are all going to see some meaningful playing time at Jack linebacker this season.
by outsidethesidelines on Apr 8, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hear that theotherend
Me too. OTS has it. And he has it DOWN!
The defense has me jacked up this year. I’ll not say anymore because I’m one of those “supersticious” kinds-o’-guys. I’ve never stopped thinking “this hat” or “that shirt” or “not those socks again” helped me or my team be the winning side in any particular game/event. Still haven’t. Jinxes do exist in the insanity which is me.
I took a look at the Ronnie Lott watchlist for 2009. This trophy is different from many other awards in that it equally recognizes athletic performance and personal character.
Here are the list’s 42 names of the nation’s top defensive players who have had the biggest "IMPACT" on their teams on and off the field. "IMPACT" stands for Integrity, Maturity, Performance, Academics, Community and Tenacity.
Cody and McClain are ’Bama’s two representatives. Huzzah!
* Mike Anello, DB, Notre Dame, Sr., 5-10, 170 (Orland Park, Ill.)
* Pat Angerer, LB, Iowa, Sr., 6-1, 232 (Bettendorf, Iowa)
* Matthew Bauman, LB, BYU, Sr., 6-1, 232 (Salt Lake City)
* Patrick Benoist, LB, Vanderbilt, Sr., 6-0, 222 (Southlake, Texas)
* Eric Berry, DB, Tennessee, So., 5-11, 195 (Fairburn, Ga)
* Alex Carrington, DE, Arkansas State, Sr., 6-5, 275 (Tupelo, Miss.)
* Terrence Cody, DT, Alabama, Sr., 6-5, 365 (Ft. Myers, Fla.)
* Reggie Carter, LB, UCLA, Sr., 6-1, 240 (Los Angeles)
* Harry Coleman, LB, LSU, Sr., 6-2, 205 (Baldwin, La.)
* Kurt Coleman, S, Ohio State, Sr., 5-11, 188 (Clayton, Ohio)
* Rennie Curran, LB, Georgia, Jr., 5-11, 228 (Snellville, Ga.)
* Brian Duncan, LB, Texas Tech, Sr., 6-1, 238 (Baton Rogue, La.)
* Brandon Graham , DE, Michigan, Sr., 6-2, 270 (Detroit)
* Mark Herzlich, LB, Boston College, Jr., 6-4, 238 (Wayne, Pa.)
* Jerry Hughes, DE, TCU, Sr., 6-3, 267 (Sugar Land, Texas)
* Jeremy Jarmon, DE, Kentucky, Jr., 6-3, 268 (Collierville, Tenn.)
* Greg Jones, LB, Michigan State, Jr., 6-1, 222 (Cincinnati)
* Jan Jorgensen, DE, BYU, Jr., 6-3, 260, (Helper, Utah)
* Keaton Kristick, LB, Oregon State, Sr., 6-3, 226 (Fountain Hills, Ariz.)
* Sean Lee, LB, Penn State, Sr. 6-2, 236 (Pittsburgh)
* Taylor Mays, S, USC, Jr., 6-4, 225 (Seattle)
* Rolando McClain, LB, Alabama, Jr., 6-4 , 249 (Decatur, Ala.)
* Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma, Jr., 6-4, 300 (Oklahoma City)
* Bo McNally, S, Stanford, Sr., 6-0, 210 (Salt Lake City)
* Derrick Morgan, DE, Georgia Tech, Jr., 6-4, 270 (Coatsville, Pa.)
* Roddrick Muckelroy, LB, Texas, Sr., 6-2, 235 (Hallsville, Texas)
* Mike Nixon, LB, Arizona State, Sr., 6-3, 227 (Phoenix)
* Eric Norwood, DE, South Carolina, Jr., 6-0, 258 (Acworth, Ga.)
* Vince Oghobaase, DT, Duke, Sr., 6-6, 300 (Houston)
* Jeff Owens, DT, Georgia, Sr., 6-3, 298 (Sunrise, Fla.)
* Joe Pawelek, LB, Baylor, Sr., 6-2, 240 (San Antonio)
* George Selvie, DE, South Florida, Jr., 6-4, 242 (Pensacola, Fla.)
* Brandon Spikes, LB, Florida, Jr., 6-3, 245 (Shelby, N.C.)
* Darrell Stuckey, DB, Kansas, Sr., 6-1, 205 (Kansas City, Mo.)
* Ndamukong Suh, DE, Nebraska, Sr., 6-4, 300 (Portland, Ore.)
* Syd’Quan Thompson, DB, Cal, Sr., 5-9, 187 (Sacramento)
* Alterraun Verner, DB, UCLA, Jr., 5-11, 178 (Carson, Ca.)
* T.J. Ward, DB, Oregon, Sr., 5-11, 200 (Antoch, Ca.)
* Sean Weatherspoon, LB, Missouri, Jr., 6-1, 230 (Jasper, Texas)
* Ryan Winterswyk, DE, Boise State, Sr., 6-4, 258 (La Habra, Ca.)
* Reed Williams, LB, Sr., West Virginia, 6-1, 228 (Moorefieild, W.Va.)
* Corey Wootton, DE, Sr., Northwestern, 6-7, 270 (Rutherford, N.J.)
Watch out world, Coach Saban might just unload a beast- not just in the SEC, but in all the land! I’m jacked as all get!
Great write up OTS. As always, your words are succint and friggin capital!
Comer4tide to Nico2.0: "How come I've never heard of any of your random songs?"
Todd to Comer: "Because if you had, he wouldn't listen to it. BOOM. Roasted."
Nico to Todd: "Shouldn't you be off voguing somewhere?"
by BixBeiderbecke on Apr 8, 2009 12:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm with ya'...
…on the superstition thing there, Bix. It SCARES ME how good I feel about our D.
OTS, what’s the latest word on our receiving corps? Has anyone distanced themselves as a deep threat option to complement The Senator?
"The will to win compares little with the will to prepare to win." - The Bear
by Bubba Chang on Apr 8, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's why I won't comment over here during the season.
And why I didn’t last year. It was way way too good of a season for me to blow it for our boys.
I cried, laughed, and was pissed with all y’all. It really hurt not to write some sh_t, but I’ll do it again. I will.
Comer4tide to Nico2.0: "How come I've never heard of any of your random songs?"
Todd to Comer: "Because if you had, he wouldn't listen to it. BOOM. Roasted."
Nico to Todd: "Shouldn't you be off voguing somewhere?"
by BixBeiderbecke on Apr 8, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was wondering...
…where the H-E-Double-Hockey-Sticks you were all last season. I was starting to think you didn’t love us anymore.
by Nico2.0 on Apr 8, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Way man!
I already told you, I love ALL YOU GUYS! I didn’t and I ain’t lying about that.
I couldn’t. I just couldn’t, ruin it. (and I’m still sincere about the whole “jinx=ing” stuff. i’m just built like that. it’s hard to change. i’ve tried and you know what? it didn’t work for me. so, i’ve remained the same)
I dig RBR, but I have to say. . . .I love Alabama Crimson Tide football even more.
Comer4tide to Nico2.0: "How come I've never heard of any of your random songs?"
Todd to Comer: "Because if you had, he wouldn't listen to it. BOOM. Roasted."
Nico to Todd: "Shouldn't you be off voguing somewhere?"
by BixBeiderbecke on Apr 8, 2009 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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