I have no clue how the vacated wins are going to be calculated. From the 2005 season to the night before the 2007 Tennessee game, we won 20 football games. So the question becomes who played in what games, and at exactly what point did the five athletes in question become ineligible.

Antoine Caldwell played in every game from 2005 up ’til the suspensions. Glen Coffee played in all twelve in 2005, none in 2006 (knee injury), and the first five wins in 2007 up ’til the suspensions. Marlon Davis played in five games in 2005 (all wins), every 2006 game (except the Vandy win), and all the pre-Tennessee 2007 games. Chris Rogers did not play in any game in 2005, played in all 13 in 2006, and all the pre-Tennessee 2007 games. Marquis Johnson did not play in any game in 2005, but played in all in 2006 and the pre-Tennessee 2007 games.

So, yeah, if Ian is reporting at least ten are gone, hopefully that means that the only ineligible guys in 2005 were Marquis Johnson and Chris Rogers. If Caldwell did the deed in 2005, though, you would think it would be a lot more vacated wins that ten. That said, though, I honestly have no understanding whatsoever as to what the guiding principle is in all of this for the NCAA.

At any rate, though, as a preview for later, I will add that I think we would have a very good chance of getting the vacated wins back via appeal.

At least this won’t affect the future of the program unless some other dinky violation comes up in the next three years.

On the bad side, Shula’s only good season will be diminished, and Saban’s “official” first year record could be 2-10.

… Ian is saying at least 10 vacated wins from 2005-2007 (sans the 2007 UT game and the Independence Bowl).

However, the Tuscaloosa News report is saying at least ten wins vacated from 2006-2007. Obviously that would leave all of the 2005 wins intact.

I will add that from 2006 to the Tennessee game in 2007, we won 11 games. Six wins came in 2006, five more came in 2007. Maybe 11 will be the magic number, then, but we’ll see. I wonder if they would make us vacate even to Western Carolina? Maybe so, but that would be unbelievably absurd, so we’ll see.

Anyway, the point is that the 2005 wins may not be in play here.

…we will show up on their doorstep with pitchforks and torches no matter what they do. I’d wait to get totally wrapped around the axle until the appeals are finalized.

Hell, those sneaky bastards could be baiting us into appealing just so they seem benevolent when they “allow” us to keep our wins. All in an effort to drop kick us through the goalposts of oblivion the next time something happens…

…OK that is a little far fetched…

wow, me actually serious?

Me, Nick Saban, and everyone else doesn’t give a damn about those wins. There were no rings in those seasons so they DONT MATTER. Saban does not care what his overall win record looks like. All Saban cares about is the current year and NEXT YEAR. This isn’t going to effect our recruiting? This isn’t going to keep us from a bowl game?

I hope this is ture.

Mean FSU game is a tie?

…the first half seemed to take about 3 days, in the blazing heat.

Easily the worst game I have attended. I was at the UH loss in Aloha Stadium, and this years Sugar Bowl, so I have some pretty bad ones to chose from…

I almost got kill at that UH game, but then the second half happened…