NCAA Sanctions: Believe it or Not, This is a Good Thing
..or, If Dennis Dodd Started Rubbing Rogaine Into His Scalp Instead of Stupid Juice He Might Actually See Some Results
In the wake of the NCAA's announcement (and last night's leak) that Alabama football will lose zero scholarships and instead is forced to "vacate" wins, various blogs and agencies have let their displeasure over the NCAA's meager slap on the wrist be known in no uncertain terms. Deadspin thinks the penalties should hurt more while simultaneously admitting the offense is very minor (and thus so is the punishment!), while Suarian Sagacity isn't even that responsible kind, instead throwing out blanket condemnations that 'Bama Cheats, NCAA Say It Doesn't Care without also noting that the violations were minor and represented no competitive advantage on the field or in recruiting (unlike the secondary violations that are rampant in college football yet are never punished so long as they are reported). And then there's Dennis Dodd:
In the ongoing dinner theater known as Being Alabama only the actors change. The roles remain the same.
Bear's School went on NCAA probation Thursday for the fourth time in 14 years. Something about a textbook scandal. The details aren't really important. There are major violations, but only because Alabama is to the rulebook what Michael Vick is to pit bulls. A constant, menacing threat.
First, why is it that the people who actually need to be constantly reminded that "Bear" is no longer with us aren't Alabama fans, despite the fact that Alabama fans are being constantly told "bahr is dayd, stop livin in da pass!!!11." Alabama is "Bear's" school in the same way that it is Thomas's school and Wade's school and Scott's school and Stallings's school and Saban's school, not to mention Gilmer's and Starr's and Namath's and Stabler's and Newsome's and Oglivie's and Barker's and Prothro's and etc. But more than that, Alabama is our school and our football team and last I checked we live in the present, so either figure out a way to insult us that's better than slinging tired, lazy gibes that require zero effort and cleverness or shut up. See also the Michael Vick crack, which was old two years ago. Next thing you know he'll be quoting lyrics from The Soft Parade in an effort to "get next to the young people."
Second, the details aren't really important? I suppose they aren't when the details don't support your foolishly righteous indignation over a minor punishment for a minor offense. True, this is the fourth time in 14 years that Alabama has been before the NCAA. It is also true that this is the first of those four times where the infraction was a minor violation that the university discovered, investigated, rectified, and reported on it's own. No agents were involved, no special secret witnesses gave testimony, no players were getting paid, no coaches, staff members, or administrators were in on the scam, and no competitive advantage was gained by the players' actions. But considering any reasonable person with 1/4 of a functioning brain would look at those details and see Dennis Dodd for the ignorant blowhard that he is, it's no wonder the details aren't really important.
The question has become when aren't there major violations in Tuscaloosa? The latest penalties mean that 'Bama has been eligible to be an NCAA repeat offender since 1995. Alabama has been committing major violations while serving time for major violations.
One slip-up during the five-year repeat violator statute of limitations is considered serious. It makes a program eligible for the NCAA death penalty. At Alabama, they scoff. It's a Crimson and White Groundhog Day every day.
Well gee Dennis, I don't know, how about now? This isn't a major violation in and of itself, it is only made major by the fact it happened within the NCAA's "repeat offender" window, a fact you are clearly acknowledging here. Excuse us for scoffing at this one since, relatively speaking, a bunch of players, the vast majority of whom competed on teams the average Alabama fan didn't even know existed until this week, is small beer compared to the very real and very serious infractions the last go 'round. Let's face it, we shouldn't be worried about these sanctions and furthermore we should actually be rather glad all of this happened. Crazy thought right? But let's look at it this way:
1. We've all bought into The Process, and this is just one more aspect of it. We've spoken at length here about how Saban has taken on the herculean task of reshaping the culture of Alabama football, and the university's response to the situation is just more proof that the athletic department and administration are fully on board with building an elite, championship caliber program from top to bottom. It's not just the coaches and players anymore, it's everyone from the president on down to the guy at the book store who has to do his part to make sure everything is running smoothly and there are no distractions that take away from what Alabama is trying to accomplish on the field. When it was discovered by the bookstore that athletes were charging far more than they should, the situation was immediately investigated, steps were taken to find out who was involved, to fix the problem, and to make sure the violations were self reported quickly. Given the severely nitpicky nature of the violation (honest mistake on the part of most of those involved and just plain old broke college kids figuring out a way to get free stuff on the part of the rest) and the ease in which the university could have simply fixed the problem and swept it under the rug, turning yourself in while fully aware the charges could fall within the "repeat offender" window and become a more serious violation than it actually is was probably the most difficult, but ultimately correct, thing to do.
2. It caused a thorough investigation of the entire athletic department.
From Mal Moore's statement: (emphasis mine)
This case involves a failure in an isolated aspect of the program, and there is neither evidence nor allegations of other NCAA violations. No head coaches or assistant coaches of any sport, and no administrators were involved. No players gained financially or otherwise; no competitive advantage was gained; all of the books were returned.
If we take only one positive from this whole mess this should be it.
3. By being open with the NCAA and cooperating as fully as we did, it shows that Alabama has made a commitment to doing things the right way despite the possibly dire consequences.
Because of the institution's status as a repeat violator, the Committee on Infractions considered both a ban on postseason competition and the enhanced penalties for repeat violators.
Disturbing thoughts, I know, and thankfully ones you won't have to have again once you finish reading this post. But the fact remains that, by self reporting and cooperating as we did, the NCAA Infractions Committee had to take that into account when determining the Tide's fate. Committee chair Paul Dee commended the university in it's handling of the matter, and despite the hand wringing of Dodd and his ilk, Alabama comes off looking rather well despite having "Alabama", "NCAA", "violations", and "sanctions" all over the news over the last few days.
As Dr. Witt noted, "the penalties imposed affect the past. They do not impact our future. They in no way affect the ability of our football team to compete fully." Yes, we "got away" with this one, if putting yourself into a position to have to run the tightest ship imaginable until 2014 and slipping behind Southern Cal in the all time bowl wins column (at least in the NCAA record book) is "getting away" with anything. But what's important to remember is that, even though we're still in the doghouse with the NCAA, this whole affair has not only helped to put the final nail in the coffin of the ancien regime that was Alabama football, but also showed that the people and, most importantly, principles are in place to make sure this sort of thing doesn't happen again. Roll Tide.
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Alabama is one of
the most hated football programs in the country. It’s pretty lame to wish serious sanctions upon any program, but it’s despicable to wish them upon the Alabama football team for something like this: illegal receipt of textbooks involving more than 200 athletes from Alabama sports programs.
So why were so many people hanging on the edge of their seats, hoping for serious sanctions? Part of me thinks they’re just some haters, and part of me thinks their hatred results from encounters with some of our fans.
It’s obvious our fans create a lot of bad blood with their passion. When I was a student athlete, I remember one of my teammates said, “You won’t see anybody show their ass like an Alabama fan when we’re winning.” I’m sad to say he was right about some of our fans, and while we still love the Tide and will remain forever loyal, we can’t always claim to be proud of some of our peers’ behavior. Maybe we should tone it down a little bit and hope this will influence the rude faction of our fan base. I don’t know. Or maybe we should just continue on and say, “Go to hell!” because the haters will continue to hate.
MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--
BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.
now, if someone was REALLY enterprising...
…some of these books in question would start showing up on eBay.
I just watched
Eraserhead and thought of you. Have you reviewed that on your site?
MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--
BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.
not yet...
i’ve actually tried to avoid popular cult (oxmoron?) films since there’s a ton of examination out there on them. my effort has been to better understand the ones that have sort of flown under the radar, so to speak.
In alot of ways
I think we just need to accept the hate on this one fellas. let’s nod our heads, agree how we were wrong and how gracious the NCAA is on this one. I can swallow my humility on this one and just accept that this minor minor minor violation can be construed as horrible.
I don’t care.
Call me a stuck in the past bammer who cannot get over Bear Bryant’s death. Call me arrogant and a cheater. Call me the dirtiest program in the history of college football. Call me southern trash, call me arrogant, I’m dellusional, I’m out of touch, I’m blinded by my crimson glasses, I’m a homer, CALL ME ANYTHING AND SAY ANYTHING YOU WANT ABOUT ME AND MY PROGRAM.
I. DO. NOT. CARE.
My program has not lost any scholarships. If your team really wants to claim a win, or brag how the NCAA gave you an advantage over our wins records good for you. You are well within your rights to say all that.
HOLY SHIT DERRIK FISHER JUST HIT A THREE TO TIE THE GAME.
Okay. Back. What was I saying? I don’t care. My program’s future is unaffected. If you want to change the past, if you want to call us name, go for it.
Nick Saban still has all his scholarships and until they can find a “recruiting pill” he’s only going to be able to get his fix one way.
BOOSH!
"What's got two thumbs and loves boobs? THIS GUY!"
How in the world...
…could Fisher hit a three with tall, gangly Jameer Nelson ‘guarding’ him? Inconceivable!
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jun 12, 2009 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Amazing shot
That shot just won the series
"What's got two thumbs and loves boobs? THIS GUY!"
by Wallacewade04 on Jun 12, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Amazing...
…that the Magic would leave Jameer Nelson on the floor at all, much less for the biggest defensive moment of the series. This kind of ‘coaching’, horrible officiating, and specifically all the hands-in-the-air-horrified-look-where’s-the-foul b.s. that happens every freakin’ time down the court is why I lost my enthusiasm for the NBA long ago. LeBron James is the most physically gifted basketball player I’ve ever seen play, and the only thing that piques my interest in pro ball.
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jun 12, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Good
point and I find it ironic that the people being the loudest about this right now aren’t Alabama people but mostly fans of a certain rival school who know they are in for a loooooooong wait to ever be on top in this state again. And that was just reaffirmed yesterday afternoon.
Listening to barners speak on this is like listening to your broke-ass brother-in-law trying to dispence financial advise. WTF do you know about running a football program anyway? I mean, look at you. You just spent $2M on a 5-19 coach. GTFO!!!!!11
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
Not
suprised I just felt it necessary to state it out loud.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
by Bens4vcobra on Jun 15, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Facts be damned...
The anti-Alabama rants are all interchangable. Just put Alabama and NCAA in the same sentence and let your imagination run wild. The facts are completely superfluous. 99% of the haters can’t even explain what the violation was.
Good post. There is so very little intellectual honesty in today's commentary from the major columnists.
You did a great job pointing out the facts of a case actually do matter when attempting to render justice.
by capstonereport on Jun 11, 2009 11:20 PM CDT reply actions
forgive me for asking....
I know people make mistakes…but where do we draw the line when it comes to student athlete’s knowingly breaking the rules, as in “intentional wrongdoing” and not being accountable for ones actions? I mean…they disassociate boosters for wrongdoings in the program…shouldn’t those athletes be handed the same sentence? We can’t continue to skate along HOPING we will maintain some sort of relevance in the football world without bringing the NCAA to our front door looking for issues within the sports programs. I believe we’ve got to do a better job educating our athletes…plain and simple. I truly love this University and want to see it prosper in every aspect.
"The expectation level at the University of Alabama is high and it should be..What's wrong with people expecting excellence?"
well that's kind of the point...
how, exactly, does vacating wins hold former athletes accountable for unintentional wrongdoing? but, yes, going forward it seems education and transparency are our best bets. i assume the first is covered, i’m better the latter will remain wanting.
Still don't get it...
With 4 or 5 football players named out of 200 or so offenders, why does just the football team get hit? Yeah, yeah, I know. The moneymaker, hurts the worst etc. But still. And to the haters: minor punishment for a minor infraction.
by rolltidefromaz on Jun 12, 2009 12:08 AM CDT reply actions
Football players were among the largest offenders in terms of dollars
by capstonereport on Jun 12, 2009 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions
True...
… it was seven football players, and they probably accounted for 40% of the benefit or so.
Hell, the biggest four offenders were football players, and they racked up 30%.
by outsidethesidelines on Jun 12, 2009 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions
And...
…the University handled it, and it shouldn’t be an NCAA issue.
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jun 12, 2009 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Rationalization and spin...
That’s my opinion on most of what I’ve read here and on a lot of other BAMA sites too. Most of you have said we got off easy and that vacating wins is no big deal. Well, I will say it – IT IS A VERY BIG DEAL to vacate TWENTY ONE wins. That is NOT a slap on the wrist in my opinion.
With the players we have gotten in the last 2 recruiting classes, how bad would it have been to have lost a couple of scholarships over the next 2 or 3 years of probation? I don’t think it would make a big difference to bring in 23 instead of 25. I’d rather have had that instead of losing our wins.
I think of that 2005 team and they were special, in spite of losing to LSU and the Barn. They had heart. They prevailed through adversity. That defense was one of the best ever here. I think of those kids and how they must feel right now after playing their asses off. How Jamie Christensen feels since he was our savior in 3 games. How Pro feels. We won the Game Changing Performance for the entire year and he won an Espy for “The Catch” that year. DeMeco won the Lott trophy that year. Brodie’s last year. If we had had a decent O line, we probably would have been undefeated in the regular season. How Mike Shula feels to have that 10 win season taken away. 2006 was mostly forgettable, but the opener against Hawaii was memorable with the unveiling of the Walkway of Champions and the North end zone. John Parker’s TD to Matt Caddell in 2007 against Arky. DAMN IT, they matter. The players matter, the coaches matter, and the wins MATTER. NO ONE can spin that different for me.
You had me at "ROLL TIDE"!!!
We still...
…won those games, their just on vacation.
What I’m wondering is how did UT win the SEC East in 2007 while losing 41-17 to a Bama team that couldn’t muster a single win in its previous 34 games?
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jun 12, 2009 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Dammit!
they’re, not their. I gotta get more sleep. Dammit.
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jun 13, 2009 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions
I
am right there with you Vicki. Although I think the probation is the worst part of this, not the vacating of wins, I’d like to see us appeal and get those wins back, or shave a year off of the probation. I think most Alabama fans are in the mindset that the present is pretty damn good for us right now. And that is the most important thing. We were all worried about the present and the future, and rightly so. But yeah I agree, I would like to see us appeal the vacated wins if nothing else on principle.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
Pro, JPW, Christenson, DeMeco and company....
can take it up with their teammates. This is 100% player’s fault. Coffee, Caldwell, Johnson, Davis, and whoever else knowingly broke rules are to blame, not the ncaa. I guess these players who COST US 21 WINS and another drag through the mud can join Andre Smith in your “dead to me” file.
by yellowhammer on Jun 12, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Agree that this was totally the fault of those 7 players...
…but it’s still more than ridiculous for the NCAA to vacate football wins over freaking TEXTBOOKS which did not give us any competitive edge on the field. Plus the self reporting and the changing of the way textbook distribution is handled. It’s just WAAAY over the top and the NCAA wields too much power. I liked the article that said for us to “just say no” to them.
I guess these players who COST US 21 WINS and another drag through the mud can join Andre Smith in your "dead to me" file.
Pretty much. There should be SOME ramifications for them. I truly believe they should all have to pay back their scholarships. I would REALLY like to know who the other 2 are to put in the file too. On the other hand, I’m afraid to know. It would just lead to more disappointment.
You had me at "ROLL TIDE"!!!
I completely agree about the ncaa..
and the vacated wins piss me off as well, but the players that put us in this mess pisses me off more.
BTW,do you have a link to that ‘just say no’ article?
by yellowhammer on Jun 12, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Just when I give up you
(based solely on your taste in women) you hit me with this:
But more than that, Alabama is our school and our football team and last I checked we live in the present, so either figure out a way to insult us that’s better than slinging tired, lazy gibes that require zero effort and cleverness or shut up.
A. Freakin. Men.
I just won a t-shirt tearing contest against the Tennessee coaching staff
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 12, 2009 7:47 AM CDT reply actions
People in general do not desire to hear the truth...
…they want to hear what they percieve to be true.
These are the same type of people who say everyone in the Southeast is of little education and low birth.
Talking heads talk. Haters hate.
We are not the pretty choice ( although I vehemently disagree) to be successful, therefore we do no deserve to be succesful. Those who say don’t live in the past only say it because they are ashamed of their own failures. It is truly liberating to look back, note your missteps and see how far you have truly come.
Offense sells tickets. Defense wins games. - Paul W. "Bear" Bryant
by TheRedTideConsumes on Jun 12, 2009 8:06 AM CDT reply actions
Is this a true statement?
From ut’s sbn site:
Four football players pocketed cash in amounts between $2,714.62 and $3,947.19.
What's
worse? Laziness or dishonesty? The result is the same.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
Not true...
… and all that statement tells you is that many of the rival fans running their mouths over the textbook situation don’t even half a decent grasp of the basic facts regarding what happened.
If you took the total cash pocketed by the 201 athletes in question and went down to McDonald’s, you would still be 99 cents short of what you need to buy a 99 cent cheeseburger. Our guys ultimately received zero dollars and zero cents.
by outsidethesidelines on Jun 12, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions

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