Out of Curiosity: How DID Julio Jones steal the spotlight from A.J. Green?
Inspired by kleph's Stupid Question of the Day fanpost from Friday (and therefor AJC columnist Bill King's poor answer to said question), I thought it was time for another "Out of Curiosity" post to take a look at some of the reasons Julio Jones has received more attention and hype than A.J. Green despite both being VHT Five Star types that had stellar freshman seasons. King has two theories about it, one of which has merit and one of which could have merit if it wasn't wrapped in pure, homer paranoia, while I have five (hopefully solid) reasons of my own. Let's begin:
Julio was simply a higher profile recruit than Green. Though both were arguably as highly touted by Rivals (the #1 and #2 receivers, respectively, and both were top ten overall recruits), Green committed to Georgia in October of '06 while Julio waited until National Signing Day to choose Alabama (at a televised news conference, no less). In the four months between commits, Green flew under the radar while Jones remained in the public eye by refusing to name his leader while also taking all of his official visits, and reportedly being asked to leave during an official visit to Florid for "recruiting" for Oklahoma (which all turned out to be nonsense, but it was still quite a story). Further, while Green was certainly a huge get for UGA, it can be argued that he was just another link in the chain of stellar recruits that Mark Richt has brought to Athens over the years, while Julio put the cherry on top of what turned out to be the #1 recruiting class in the country at a program that hadn't been doing so well in that regard for...ever, really. So even though both were big gets for their respective programs, the differing circumstances surrounding their individual recruitment made Julio a household name and Green just another VHT at a school that was no stranger to them.
Julio was a bigger part of Alabama's passing game. This actually ties in with King's theory that Julio deserves more credit because he was stuck with a "servicable" John Parker Wilson running the Tide offense while Green had the luxury of Matt Stafford, the eventual #1 draft pick, throwing to him. This one actually has merit to it, if only for the fact that, with a QB like Stafford, the ball was being thrown around a lot more and there was a greater emphasis on the passing game. The numbers bear that out as well:
| Georgia | Rec | Yds | Avg | TD | Long | Avg/G |
| Mohamed Massaquoi | 58 | 920 | 15.9 | 8 | 78 | 70.8 |
| A.J. Green | 56 | 963 | 17.2 | 8 | 54 | 74.1 |
| Michael Moore | 29 | 451 | 15.6 | 2 | 46 | 34.7 |
| Alabama | Rec | Yds | Avg | TD | Long | Avg/G |
| Julio Jones | 58 | 924 | 15.9 | 4 | 64 | 66.0 |
| Nick Walker | 32 | 324 | 10.1 | 2 | 40 | 23.1 |
| Mike McCoy | 16 | 191 | 11.9 | 1 | 30 | 14.7 |
Looking at the top three receivers for each team last season, a few things ought to jump out at you:
1. The top three receivers for UGA were just that; receivers. Meanwhile, the Tide's #2 man was a Tight End and, to take it even further, the Dawg's 4th and 5th leading receivers were WRs while the Tide's Glen Coffee (a RB) was fourth ahead of WR Marquis Maze at Alabama.
2. Though Green led the team in receiving yards, Massaquoi actually led the team in number of receptions and tied Green for # of receiving TDs with 8. Meanwhile, no one on the Tide's roster came close to touching Julio's production from a # of receptions or receiving yards standpoint. Green was clearly a crucial cog in the UGA passing game, no doubt, but given Massaquoi's similar production and the fact that Michael Moore was a reliable third man, Greene didn't carry the burden of receiving production alone. Julio, on the other hand, was essentially the entire passing game for Alabama. Furthering that thought...
Knowshon Moreno stole A.J. Green's thunder, not Julio. With Stafford, a solid overall receiving corps, and a star at tailback, the Dawgs had a much more balanced attack than the Crimson Tide, and therefor the individual cogs in the UGA offense had more opportunity to shine. This made Knowshon Moreno very happy:
This is in no way meant to imply that Moreno is some sort of showboating hot dog, but let's face it, when you have teammates leaping over defenders and creating some of the more iconic images of the season, it's kind of hard to separate yourself from the pack. In Alabama's case, though Glen Coffee and Mark Ingram (and Roy Upchurch, when healthy), were solid running backs they weren't out making highlight reel moves, they were simply lowering their shoulders and running defenders over. Julio, on the other hand, was a one man highlight reel:
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This all goes back to the idea that Jones was able to remain in the public conscious while Green was just another part of the Georgia offense.
Alabama had the better season. This is probably the biggest reason Julio has received more hype and attention than Green, and one King somewhat touched on in his column (in a condescending, homerish way):
So what’s the difference in how Green and Jones are being perceived? Does Jones being on a team with the magic name of "Alabama" that went to the SEC Championship play into it?
Yes it does and, quite frankly, it should. Before the Tide and Dawgs met last season, Georgia was a national title contender, and thus the focus of plenty of media coverage and the attendant scrutiny of it's players. After that game, though, Alabama became the national title contender and, considering Georgia was absolutely slaughtered by Florida four weeks later and dropped their season ending match with Georgia Tech, remained heavily in the discussion of "best teams" in the country while Georgia fell off the radar.
No one knows what the Georgia offense will do in 2009. Now that Stafford, Massaquoi, and Moreno are in the NFL, there is far more uncertainty about the Georgia offense than there is Alabama's. Though the Tide will try and open up the passing game and develop receiving threats outside of Jones in 2009, all the elements are their to continue the kind of physical, run first approach that dominated the play calling in '08. Mark Ingram and Roy Upchurch are back to continue on with the power running, the TE position is again one of the deepest we have, and we have another smart if unspectacular QB that can make the throws necessary but who's biggest asset is taking what the defense gives him and avoiding negative plays. With the mindset that Alabama will be doing pretty much the same thing it did last year, it's only natural that a focus be put on Julio Jones, who was such a big part of the offense's success. Georgia, on the other hand, has more pressing concerns like finding a QB and replacing Moreno in the backfield, two issues that are going to be first and foremost in the minds of fans and the media when discussing the upcoming season.
All in all, Georgia fans have every right to consider A.J. Green one of the top receivers in the SEC (and even in the country) and should hold out high hopes that he will continue to develop into a truly elite player, but what they shouldn't do is get upset that Julio Jones is receiving more attention in the preseason. He earned it.
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Biggest Reason
Bama kicked their butts at their place on National television. Nuff said.
by FloraBama on Jun 22, 2009 8:29 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Reason #3
look at those guns, nuff said.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
by Bens4vcobra on Jun 22, 2009 9:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Chris Low made a similar argument
In his ESPN SEC blog last year. In pertinent part:
“I realize Green had better numbers, and I’m not taking anything away from his season. But the Bulldogs threw it nearly 100 more times than the Crimson Tide this year. Had Jones been in Georgia’s offense, his numbers would have been comparable, if not better, than Green’s.”
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/secconf/0-3-81/SEC-mailbag—Jones-gets-the-nod-over-Green——-barely.html
by Go Hide in the V-berth on Jun 22, 2009 9:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I read
that article by Bill King and in the comments section one Georgia fan said that A.J. Green would have the better pro career. It doesn’t get any more homeristic than that statement. I for one think one of the things that makes Julio standout more is that Georgia-Alabama game. Julio showed up and made big plays while Green bobbled a pass that Hightower intercepted then Green was shown on the sideline throwing his helmet.
"I don't know, we haven't played Alabama yet." -- Vince Lombardi after being asked what it felt like to be the greatest football team in the world just after winning the '66 Super Bowl.
by AlabamaTitans2009 on Jun 22, 2009 10:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dude
If you’re reading comments on the AJC and taking them seriously, then you need to spend more time on the message boards where the crazies are. SB Nation encourages reasonable discussion, the AJC and message boards devolve into “BWAHAHA 45-42, nerds, redncecks” nonsense.
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by AuditDawg on Jun 22, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude
chill what’s your problem? I was just saw that statement a Dawg fan stated and thought it was funny of course I don’t take those things serious. I just read the first couple comments on there and saw that one. You’re basically labeling me a “crazy fan” when you don’t even know me. You obviously took my post the wrong way.
"I don't know, we haven't played Alabama yet." -- Vince Lombardi after being asked what it felt like to be the greatest football team in the world just after winning the '66 Super Bowl.
by AlabamaTitans2009 on Jun 22, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correction
I was just saw that statement
I just saw that statement. I type too fast sometimes. lol
"I don't know, we haven't played Alabama yet." -- Vince Lombardi after being asked what it felt like to be the greatest football team in the world just after winning the '66 Super Bowl.
by AlabamaTitans2009 on Jun 22, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can't make vocal inflections on blogs which leads to this
You’re taking me the wrong way. I was being sarcastic. Never did I label you as a “crazy fan”. I implied that the AJC was full of crazies and if you read the regular message boards then you could see the comparison. No worries chief, not taking shots there. Just making the point that most of the “fans” that comment on the AJC are morons.
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by AuditDawg on Jun 22, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the AJC was full of crazies
ditto al.com
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
by Bens4vcobra on Jun 22, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Worries
AuditDawg. It was just a misunderstanding.
This upcoming season I'm gonna refer to Julio Jones as "The Magic Man" and Trent Richardson as "El Diablo"
by AlabamaTitans2009 on Jun 22, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anybody know
why Julio and A.J. both picked the number 8 for their jersey number? It just seems like an odd number for a reciever.
"I don't know, we haven't played Alabama yet." -- Vince Lombardi after being asked what it felt like to be the greatest football team in the world just after winning the '66 Super Bowl.
by AlabamaTitans2009 on Jun 22, 2009 11:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not sure
but I’m willing to bet that JJ picked his first and AJ copied him.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
by Bens4vcobra on Jun 22, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they both aspire to be as awesome as Chris Rogers
by kleph on Jun 22, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel kinda sorry for Chris...
he’s done some good things for Bama, but the only reason we know him is because he happened to pick the same number Julio wears. I guess that could also be a good thing, though…I don’t know.
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by SugarBowl93 on Jun 22, 2009 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MInd you that AJ Green is a good receiver,
but I have not seen the entire defense on his back going down the field. Someone needs to ask LSU’s secondary which is a bigger threat.
by CousinEddie on Jun 22, 2009 1:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought they did,
it might have been the marching band or maybe the cheerleaders. I’m pretty sure someone on his back had long hair, though. All I could really see was a moving purple and yellow blob.
by CousinEddie on Jun 22, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have no problem saying Julio gets and deserves more hype
I think another reason one gets more hype than the other is the “type” of receiver they are. Julio fits into the big bulky reciever who is able to break tackles and fight for lots of yardage, while A.J. Is more of the tall and lanky fast receiver with great hands. Which is more fun to watch on television, in the SEC i’d imagine it would be the big receiver that can outmuscle CB for extra yardage and break tackles for huge gains. As they say “bigger is better” and i’m sure most people would look at Julio’s size and take him first.
This year will give us another great look to see how both receivers develop and improve their games. Can Julio put up more TD’s, and can AJ put up great numbers being the #1 man and defenses doubling him up. Both will depend on thier new QB’s to continue to get them the ball as defenses key on stopping them both more this year.
As far as the number thing goes, i don’t think we can possibly know who chose what first, i do know though that AJ wanted #1 as that’s what he wore in high school, but since MoMass already wore it, he had to go with a different #.
Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.
I Corinthians 9:24
by Southern Dawg on Jun 22, 2009 1:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's interesting...
…that your description of Green also fits Jones…sans the ‘lanky’ part. It’s a testament to both players that this conversation is even taking place. If anyone believes Green is the better receiver, fine. Maybe he is. There are really only two reasons I prefer Julio: (1) he wears crimson & white; and (2) as good as Green is, I’ve seen receivers like him before, whereas I have never, ever seen a football player like Julio Jones.
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jun 22, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
something to talk about
the best players on bama last year were their o-line men, not much media love for these guys who are the most under-appreciated athletes in football. knowshon and stafford got most of the uga attention.
But what aobut no one liked jpw because he wasnt really taht good and no one likes saban because hes an a$$hole. that pretty much leaves julio. Arenas just didnt play enough plays to get major attention altough he is extremely talented.
With all this being said, AJ is better that JJ. Look at the numbers. Look at the potential. Oh ya, AJ had a tweaked groin the entire year. marlon brown and da’rick rogers will also help out. Maybe AJ will get more hype this year, maybe not, the kid is quiet. In the end, it doesnt matter, just w’s.
by hotdawgin on Jun 22, 2009 3:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Can I get a Dawg fan to interpret this post?
by brandonh on Jun 22, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best I can do:
LOL! EVERY1 H8S BAMA AND NICK SATAN, SO WHOLEO IZ TEH FAVORITEST!
by PeteHoliday on Jun 22, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
watch it, pete.
their skins are unusually thin today and their ability to grasp sarcasm is at a dramatic low.
by kleph on Jun 22, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bamarulez
and hotdawgin need to open a thread and have a chat – THAT would be entertaining!
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by SugarBowl93 on Jun 22, 2009 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and also migrane-inducing
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
by Bens4vcobra on Jun 23, 2009 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow,
Apparently, you missed the 41-point beatdown at Georgia last year. You talked about AJ having a “tweaked groin”, if I am not mistaken, JJ had surgery on his wrist and a sports hernia repaired in the off-season. There is no hype with JJ, it’s all fact.
by CousinEddie on Jun 22, 2009 3:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think we are "grasping at straws"
Both are great, but let’s take the “fan aspect” out of it. Hands down AJ Green smoked JJ. Yeah, we beat UGA but man to man, Green is the better reciever and I’ll bet you even with a backup QB this year, he will still have better stats. He is the focal point of the UGA offense. What will your argument be at the end of the year when JJ finishes behind Green? Let me guess we were “rebuilding” right?
by ElephantJellyRoll on Jun 22, 2009 5:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What will you say when Richt bombs another season?
by brandonh on Jun 22, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How does having virtually identical stats = “smoking”?
by PeteHoliday on Jun 22, 2009 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm putting my money on....
…because 8 touchdowns is a billion times more than 4 touchdowns.
by Nico2.0 on Jun 22, 2009 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hands down AJ Green smoked JJ
First post FAIL
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
by Bens4vcobra on Jun 23, 2009 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah-huh! Nuh-huh! Yeah-huh! Nuh-huh! Dear God, I hate the off-season
Not that this kind of stuff stops when the football starts, but at least then we’re arguing while actual games are being played.
AJ had better stats (thought not “smokingly” better), that’s not up for debate. We could argue in circles about circumstances and justifying this or that, but the point of the post was not who was better, it was who had the most attention. JJ did, which is an interesting question for a blog post but ultimately I could care less who got more attention and why.
Honestly, I hope we can see them on the field together sometimes soon, preferably this December in Atlanta, though that’s pretty much impossible since we have to deal with Florida you have to deal with OMG NUTT IS A GENIOUS SEC TITLE OLE MISS WOOOHOOO.
This is OT, but I have a question for Todd re:
Georgia, on the other hand, has more pressing concerns like finding a QB and replacing Moreno in the backfield, two issues that are going to be first and foremost in the minds of fans and the media when discussing the upcoming season.
The tailback situation is definitely a big question mark, but our QB is Joe Cox. I’m not familiar with Greg McElroy’s previous experience (if he’s started two or more game he has more starts than Cox!) but all signs point to Cox playing the same part in our offense that you describe for McElroy (assuming Cox doesn’t have to sling the ball everywhere to make up for RB play or lack thereof. So that, at least, is not a question mark for us.
In any case, I know what the Georgia offense will do this year: throw the ball to AJ Green. AJ on the cross, AJ on the fade, AJ on the screen, AJ in the slot, AJ on the post, AJ on the corner, AJ on the slant, AJ on the slant, AJ on the end-around, AJ on the WR pass, AJ on the fake punt.
With Staff, KRM and Massoquoi gone, Green is the only legitimate star on offense we have. So if we have a fairly decent season this year, the situation might revered to a degree, since AJ is our only proven playmaker and he may have to carry a lot of our offense on his shoulders. He’ll be someone the media latch on to, and if he puts up the same kind of numbers as last year (minus Massaquoi and plus Joe Cox, I figure he’ll do a repeat of last season).
Anyway, I think Todd’s post is on target and just hope we’ll be able to see them on the field together again before they go to the next level.
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by wwcmrd? on Jun 23, 2009 2:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
YEAH HUH!!!
Agreed, Joe Cox is less of a question mark than McElroy.
Like i said earlier i think this year will definitely be a better litmus test for how each reciever will seperate themselves from the other. Both will be great there is no doubt.
Good post, wwcmrd?
Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.
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by Southern Dawg on Jun 23, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
who's better?
The topic of this post was why more hype for JJ? Everyone agrees that JJ got more hype/attention/press. Why is that noteworthy or interesting to talk about? its only because A.J. had a better season statistically, and is the better receiver. The very reason we’re talking about the hype thing is because on the surface it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense that the better player would get less attention.
Comparing the two might not be a good idea because they do have different styles. JJ plays a more power game wheras A.J. is more finess. Also, comparing their stats probably isn’t a good indiactor of who is better anyways considering their differing styles of play last year.
I think the hype stems mostly from his high school recruitment and the fact that lots of people (including myself) hate Saban. When a team had as solid of a season as Bama did (until those last two games) they’ve got to be shown a little love and JJ happened to be the recipient this year.
by hotdawgin on Jun 23, 2009 8:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
its only because A.J. had a better season statistically, and is the better receiver.
Saying so doesn’t make it true. If you look at his statistics in a vacuum, his numbers were higher. Unfortunately for him, football isn’t played in a vacuum. T
AJ’s numbers were a much smaller portion of Georgia’s passing offense than Julio’s were. The raw numbers were marginally higher, but AJ had more cover from superior athletes distracting the defenses and he had a far, far superior quarterback. On top of all that, Julio was a much larger percentage of ’Bama’s passing offense.
Reverse the roles and Bama-AJ is injured by week 4 while UGA-Julio is taking catches away from Mo and leading the team in basically all receiving categories.
by PeteHoliday on Jun 23, 2009 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree more or less
Although i don’t think AJ fades into oblivion due to injury at bama, i’ll give you the fact that he was skinny, too skinny. The kids needs to hit the weights for sure. Also, UGA did throw the ball much more which i would say was a little out of necessity due to o-line problems and starting out behind see: alabama game.
But, if you care to read just the beginning of this AJ was the number 1 last year. he was double teamed all the time. The rumblings on campus and from coaches say that AJ played hurt, as in bad wheel all season, and that the sky is the limit for him healthy all year. I think thats much different than a wrist injury.
And not to be discounted this year for AJ is the receiving core which Phil Steele has rated as the #3 core in the country. That will no doubt help his stats having other guys to take the pressure off of him. But having coffee and that o-line last year definitely opened up opportune passing situations for julio as well.
UGA uses AJ in many different ways, fades, screens and reverses. Any chance we’ll see nick give JJ get some handoffs this year?
I’ll be very surprised if JJ’s td’s don’t go up in ‘09 simply because of his size in the red zone. They’ll both have solid years but AJ will no doubt get more attention this year which im not exactly thrilled about to be honest.
by hotdawgin on Jun 23, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whatever benefit Julio derived from the offensive line and coffee, it was completely negated by the fact that he was, quite literally, the only reliable receiving threat. Julio got the #1 and #2 DBs virtually every time he stepped on the field, plus he usually had the safeties keeping an eye on him.
I wish I had a dollar for every pass he caught within 5 yards of 3 or more defenders. AJ got attention, yes, but if you put your three best defenders on AJ, Mo goes wild. Double teaming isn’t the issue — it’s the fact that Julio had very little support in the receiving corps. Defenses knew if they could shut him down, our passing offense would sputter.
by PeteHoliday on Jun 23, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
AJ Green was double teamed as well
On whether A.J. Green can handle all the attention from defenders this year…
“He was double teamed all season. Every team we played, we were watching film on them, but by the time we got to the game, they had a whole different coverage, and a lot of that was because of A.J
So maybe the argument that AJ didn’t have people doubling him up or keying in on him isn’t true. Maybe towards the beginning of the year he didn’t but after the AzSt. game i’d be willing to bet defensive coordinators took special precautions to stop him.
And i also just want to say that although i do think Julio is definitely of the same caliber reciever if not better than AJ in some areas, AJ did score 8 TD’s to Julio’s 4. No matter how you slice it, if Julio is that much great than AJ and deserving of that much more hype, shouldn’t he have had a few more TD’s? I mean Julio is a great reciever, so why the 2-1 ratio in TD difference? Blame JPW and UGA’s propensity to throw and Bama’s to run all you want, but that’s still significant.
Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.
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by Southern Dawg on Jun 23, 2009 10:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorry forgot to post the link for that quote
Its from Sports writer Dave Hale, you want info on UGA you go to him.
Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.
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by Southern Dawg on Jun 23, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if Julio is that much great than AJ and deserving of that much more hype, shouldn’t he have had a few more TD’s?
That’s not really how football works, really. Almost 75% of Alabama’s touchdowns were rushing touchdowns. When the Tide got close, they pounded the hell out of the ball behind that big offensive line. The fact that Julio got 4 even touchdowns given the offense and defensive attention he received speaks volumes about his ability.
Blame JPW and UGA’s propensity to throw and Bama’s to run all you want, but that’s still significant.I understand the point you’re trying to make, but you’re over-playing your hand here. UGA passed for over 3,600 yards. Alabama didn’t even throw for 2,400. UGA had 27 passing touchdowns to Alabama’s 11. (For those scoring at home, AJ barely accounted for a quarter of UGA’s passing touchdowns while Julio was over a third of Alabamas)
And, like I’ve said before, AJ got much different double-teams than Julio did because at the end of the day, you can’t put your worst DB on Mo. Most SEC teams could put their worst DB on any of the other Alabama wide receivers and not give up a huge mismatch.
Bottom line: Julio produced comparable numbers under a run-happy system with a mediocre QB and very little in the way of “cover” from other players on the field. Not that I wouldn’t love to have AJ in Crimson… but I wouldn’t trade Julio for him under any circumstance.
by PeteHoliday on Jun 23, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it’s so ironic that you predicted this “8 to 4 TD’s!!!!!” argument before it arrived. It’s like he read your post and then posted the argument anyway.
Why are so many Dawg fans so sensitive about this subject?!?
by brandonh on Jun 23, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why are so many Dawg fans so sensitive about this subject?!?
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by Bens4vcobra on Jun 23, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one is being sensitive or getting offended
We are just making arguments for different opinions.
Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.
I Corinthians 9:24
by Southern Dawg on Jun 24, 2009 1:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok AJ didn't account for a quarter of UGA's passing TD's like JJ.....
…..but isn’t your argument of the only reason AJ has as many TD’s as is does (and why JJ has half as many), is because AJ is in a pass happy offense with numerous other targets,…so wouldn’t you expect AJ to have a lower percentage of UGA’s total TD’s?
AJ got much different double teams? Really? I understand if you want to argue that bama didn’t throw a ton near the goal line and that be a logical reason for JJ lack in TD numbers, but to try to discount the great numbers that AJ put up by saying he saw “different” double teams than Julio saw is just a poor excuse.
What i was mainly trying to point out and what you did as well, is that you failed to give AJ any credit for his great stats, and merely made it seem like his 8 TD’s were given to him and not as difficult or important as JJ’s 4, AJ was clutch when it mattered as his game winning TD’s against AU and UK show. When the game is on the line he is the man to go to and he pulls through.
Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.
I Corinthians 9:24
by Southern Dawg on Jun 24, 2009 2:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only way that we can prove
who, in fact, is the better receiver, is to play each other. Oh wait, nevermind.
by CousinEddie on Jun 24, 2009 10:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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