Incoming Freshmen Face Difficult Road To Early Playing Time
For the second year in a row this past February, Alabama signed a star-studded recruiting class that many thought to be the top recruiting class in the country. And just as was the case last summer, many are expecting several of these incoming freshmen to step onto the field this Autumn and have a major impact. Nevertheless, despite the expectations of some, the incoming freshmen will face a very difficult road in their attempt to secure early playing time.
No one needing to be convinced of that contention should have to look any further than this past year with the 2008 recruiting class. If you recall, it was widely expected by nearly everyone that the incoming freshmen then would immediately snag multiple starting jobs, and many projections even had the Tide starting as many as 10 true freshmen.
Just remember a few of the general thoughts this time last year: Julio Jones was going to take over at wide receiver immediately, and Star Jackson was going to make a serious run at John Parker Wilson for the starting quarterback job. Tyler Love was a lock to start at right tackle, and the "Uno" package featuring ultra-athletic Burton Scott was going to make everyone in the SEC take notice. Alonzo Lawrence was going to step in immediately and take one of the starting cornerback jobs, and Mark Barron was going to make quick work of Justin Woodall for the strong safety starting job. Courtney Upshaw was going to take the Jack linebacker position almost immediately, the same goes for Jerrell Harris at strongside linebacker, and there would be several other opportunities for true freshmen to see playing time.
Now how many of those predictions actually came to fruition?
Julio Jones indeed did take over at wide receiver immediately, and even as a true freshman was arguably the best pure wide receiver Alabama has ever had, but aside from his many accomplishments it was a swing and a miss on just about all of the other predictions in the extent of contributions from the incoming freshmen. Star Jackson ultimately redshirted, never seriously contended for the starting job at quarterback, and in fact was probably fourth on the depth chart throughout the year. Tyler Love suffered a stress fracture during summer workouts, and in any event he needed to add weight before reaching his full potential. Drew Davis took over the starting job at right tackle, and did quite well, while Love redshirted. The "Uno" package left Tuscaloosa with Major Applewhite, and Burton Scott had all of two catches last season, and has since been moved to cornerback. Alonzo Lawrence struggled from the beginning and ended up getting a redshirt, while Mark Barron never seriously pushed Justin Woodall for the starting job at strong safety. Both Jerrell Harris and Courtney Upshaw were impressive on special teams (as was Barron), but neither seriously pushed either Cory Reamer or Brandon Fanney for the starting positions at strongside linebacker and Jack linebacker, respectively. All told, while several of the highly-touted freshmen did provide quality depth and valuable production in spot play, only two true freshmen actually started.
What the previous should be is a tale of caution for those expecting the incoming recruiting class in 2009 to suddenly take the entire team by storm upon their arrival. It was not that the 2008 recruiting class was overly hyped and did not live up to expectations. Much to the contrary, actually, as that class looks to be as good as it was billed. The problem, though, is more fundamental. Regardless of the quality of any incoming recruiting class, the road to early playing time is simply very difficult as long as the returning players on the roster are at least somewhat respectable SEC-level players. The returning players just have so many advantages in their favor -- better mental grasp of the schemes, better physical conditioning levels thanks to years in a collegiate S&C program, more game experience, a heightened understanding of what you need to do in order to properly prepare yourself, and in many cases simply more urgency because their college careers are coming to an end and they want to go out with a bang -- that generally only the absolute best of the best, even with a highly-touted class, can legitimately contend for a starting job.
With those reasons for reservation in mind, no one should reasonably expect the 2009 recruiting class to fair any better than its 2008 counterpart. If anything, the 2009 class is going to face an even more difficult road because there is a lot more quality depth throughout the roster now than there was a year ago.
Looking specifically at the signees, it is hard to find many that have the potential to come in and start immediately. You can rest assured that Trent Richardson, if healthy, should have a big impact -- both because of his unbelievable physical conditioning and natural talent, mixed with the uncertainty at tailback with Roy Upchurch and his injury history -- but aside from Richardson, it's hard to find many definites. Many point to D.J. Fluker, but with James Carpenter having the left tackle job locked up (the only way Fluker gets that is if he absolutely blows everyone out of the water this Fall) Fluker's will probably have to win the starting job at right guard in order to see significant amounts of playing time as a true freshman. Likewise, even Dre Kirkpatrick is no cinch in the defensive secondary. Despite the criticisms after the Florida and Utah games, Alabama actually had the best pass defense in the conference last year (despite yet another anemic pass rush), and every single cornerback on the 2008 roster returns for 2009. Furthermore, Kirkpatrick's delayed arrival in Tuscaloosa will only make things that much more difficult. Again, even for someone like Kirkpatrick, early meaningful playing time is far from certain.
Moving on, some people think one of the wide receiver recruits could start early opposite Julio, but again that will be very difficult. Even if Michael Bowman qualifies and Kendall Kelly is fully recovered from hip surgery by the start of Fall camp (neither a given), and even notwithstanding Julio Jones himself, Mike McCoy will play a lot simply because he is a great run blocker and Saban loves his effort, while Earl Alexander's slow but consistent improvement upon his vast physical abilities will also earn him a good deal of playing time. Marquis Maze looked to be a true breakout player this Spring, and of course despite all of the aforementioned players, any true freshman looking for playing time at wide receiver will have to go through the likes of Chris Jackson, Darius Hanks, Brandon Gibson, and others. Likewise, the situation looks to be just as difficult as linebacker, even though the Tide signed a particularly stellar class at that position. Even with recruits like Nico Johnson and Tana Patrick, the quality of the returning players will likely dictate that they likely end up as situational players as true freshmen. Perhaps their only opportunity for a starting job is the possibly vacated Will position if Dont'a Hightower is moved to Jack linebacker full-time, and even then they will have to go through Chris Jordan, a highly-touted recruit in his own right from the 2008 class.
The point of the matter is that regardless of how good the incoming class may be, expectations regarding their initial contributions ought to be conservative. Earning large amounts of playing time as a true freshman is inherently a very difficult thing to do, and in our case is made only more difficult because we return a roster with very few holes. As was the case last year, the 2009 recruiting class may initially yield a starter or two, but the overwhelming majority of the class (barring a bad string of injury luck) is likely to either redshirt, or contribute only in certain situations as back-up players and on special teams. No one should be overly worried about this. Both the 2008 and 2009 recruiting classes look to be of the elite variety, but their time will really come from 2010-2013. For now, perhaps it is best to remember that no matter how good true freshmen are, they are still true freshmen.
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Mark Ingram
made a huge impact as a true freshman. He scored 12 TDs and I don’t think most people really saw him contributing as much as he did with Coffee, Grant and Upchurch. You just really never know.
I do see Fluker getting meaningful PT somewhere on the line. I hope he can learn the blocking schemes quickly. With his physical attributes alone, he can cause problems for opposing DLs.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
by Bens4vcobra on Jun 26, 2009 11:17 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i hope he
RS. He’s only been at o-line just a year in HS and giving him a year to learn could very well help us out in the long run.
‘When you build a house and you make it hurricane-proof by putting certain kinds of windows in it, and use cement instead of stick construction and all that kind of stuff, you’re getting prepared for what? A hurricane that may or may never every come." ’We’re going to have 12 hurricanes next year, we know they’re coming.’
- Coach Nick Saban
by bammer on Jun 26, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
but his sheer size is just so rare… if I were coaching him, I’d literally be stuffing plays into his ears to get him on the field.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
by Bens4vcobra on Jun 26, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
While it
is true this past year was his first playing offensive line at left tackle. He did so well he was ranked the number 1 tackle prospect out of high school.
This upcoming season I'm gonna refer to Julio Jones as "The Magic Man" and Trent Richardson as "El Diablo"
by AlabamaTitans2009 on Jun 26, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
GOD!
What a terrible problem to have!!
‘When you build a house and you make it hurricane-proof by putting certain kinds of windows in it, and use cement instead of stick construction and all that kind of stuff, you’re getting prepared for what? A hurricane that may or may never every come." ’We’re going to have 12 hurricanes next year, we know they’re coming.’
- Coach Nick Saban
by bammer on Jun 26, 2009 11:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Truly amazing . . .
We are still admittedly “young” and as this post points out youth is generally a problem BUT the sheer depth of talent at almost every position is almost breathtaking (at least in terms of what we are used to dealing with). Seems like we have 4 star guys competing for backup spots at EVERY position. Lets keep it quiet at least until KO of the VaTech game — won’t be able to keep quiet after that game.
by wey on Jun 26, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've definitely been unrealistic and thought...
that maybe the VT game is going to be filled with incoming freshman like the ones you mentioned. We forget how tough it is for incoming freshman to catch up with the players that have already been through “The Process”. I think Fluker and Richardson will be the two that will play right away.
by RammerJammer23 on Jun 26, 2009 11:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You're right on the money
with this one. We focus so much on a player’s high school ratings and expectations, but the reality is they’re young and green. From a former player’s standpoint, veterans will knock a freshman out if he tries to take their spot.
Four or five star ratings aside, if you think a college player who’s been on a Division 1A team for two to four years, has been through two to four years of a D-1A weight and conditioning program, has been through multiple spring practices, has been through brutal hitting drills, scrimmages, Saturday wins and losses, an SEC schedule, bowl games, early morning agilities, injuries and mandatory treatment, film sessions, et cetera, et cetera for a couple years is going to easily let an 18 or 19 year old kid out of high school come in and take playing time away from him without a dog fight, you’re a damn fool.
I always laugh when I read the hype around certain guys. It’s not that I don’t want them to do well, it’s just that I know how it is on a D-1A team, and I’ve seen some big time prospects come in and get knocked on their ass.
I’ll never forget talking to a couple different guys in 1998 about Ahmad Galloway and then about Brandon Miree in 1999. These guys were “certain” Galloway and Miree would see playing time because they’d be as good as what he had. I couldn’t keep my comments in check. I told them they weren’t going to take carries away from Su. Alexander or anyone else.
HS Football, at any level, withers against D-1A Football. The fact that so many of Saban’s frosh have come in and seen significant playing time as freshmen is a testament to Saban’s eye for talent…and Alabama’s lack of talent in the 2004, 2005, and 2006 signing classes.
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by Bamagrad on Jun 26, 2009 11:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
hahem
nail..meet hammer…
‘When you build a house and you make it hurricane-proof by putting certain kinds of windows in it, and use cement instead of stick construction and all that kind of stuff, you’re getting prepared for what? A hurricane that may or may never every come." ’We’re going to have 12 hurricanes next year, we know they’re coming.’
- Coach Nick Saban
by bammer on Jun 26, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think
the worst thing we can do is expect any of these kids to come in and produce right away. Julio and the ones like him are not the norm. Sure some true freshman might be able to compete but most won’t. I think a lot of our wishes these days is due to the fact that we as fans want to see great talent on the field again. We just forget that no matter how much talent they have, they are still very far behind in size, strength, and conditioning.
I can’t wait till these kids WON"T be able to start until they are sophomores or juniors…cause that just means we are freakin loaded with talent.
‘When you build a house and you make it hurricane-proof by putting certain kinds of windows in it, and use cement instead of stick construction and all that kind of stuff, you’re getting prepared for what? A hurricane that may or may never every come." ’We’re going to have 12 hurricanes next year, we know they’re coming.’
- Coach Nick Saban
by bammer on Jun 26, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great stuff...
… and you are right about returning players not caring about star ratings. Hell, why would they? Big whoop you are a five-star, these kids have played in the SEC, and they have spent the past few years constantly competing against those type players.
Just look at last year… we faced at least four quarterbacks off the top of my head that were five stars (Stafford, Tebow, Crompton, and Burns). I can think of at least three or four five-star running backs, and we probably faced six or seven five-star wide receivers. And that’s not even counting all of the highly-touted four-stars.
With that in mind, if you have cut your teeth while competing against four and five-star recruits who are hitting their peaks, why in the world would you be impressed by the same type of kid straight out of high school? For a returning player, you have to prove that you actually have the ability and production to go along with that star rating before they start to care.
by outsidethesidelines on Jun 26, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fluker
All the talk on Fluker is that his only chances to start are at LT and maybe RG. Is there no chance at RT? Seems like that would prepare him better for taking over at LT in the future. Is Davis capable of sliding in to guard like MJ did last year?
by zeke2029 on Jun 26, 2009 12:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
im thinking he's too tall
for guard. G’s and C’s tend to be smaller…not saying he can’t but he is def more fitted for a tackle position.
‘When you build a house and you make it hurricane-proof by putting certain kinds of windows in it, and use cement instead of stick construction and all that kind of stuff, you’re getting prepared for what? A hurricane that may or may never every come." ’We’re going to have 12 hurricanes next year, we know they’re coming.’
- Coach Nick Saban
by bammer on Jun 26, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
… if you put him at right tackle, the problem is that opposing DC’s will just flip their best rush ends and line them up over Fluker. So, he’s still going to be dealing with the same basic problem that is holding him back at left tackle — speedy edge rushers — and if you are going to do that, you may as well just move him to left tackle and call it a day.
Right guard is open right now is why I say that. You should read my piece in Yea Alabama on rebuilding the offensive line, I go pretty in-depth on it there. Long story short, he could use his size / quickness / power as a dominant run blocker, and he wouldn’t have to worry about speedy edge rushers while trying to pass block big interior linemen.
A couple of more points…
I imagine Davis could slide inside in a pinch, but it wouldn’t be the ideal thing. Johnson was a true guard playing out of position at right tackle, so moving to guard was really just the right move for him. Davis, though, I’m pretty sure is a true tackle playing tackle, and he would be out of position at guard.
I don’t think height will hurt Fluker at guard. He has the raw size and power to get away with some possible pad level issues, and obviously Saban has no issues with guys that big and tall playing guard. Just look at Herman Johnson. Besides, you have to keep in mind that Fluker has spent most of his career playing on the interior defensive line, so I’m sure he’s well aware of the need for playing with proper pad level and establishing leverage when along the defensive interior.
by outsidethesidelines on Jun 26, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So it begins...
withholding information so we’ll buy your book…
Just kidding…folks would be stupid not to buy it – I’m getting mine the minute they hit bookstores.
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by SugarBowl93 on Jun 26, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
height ensures that blockers can get low enough to gain sufficient leverage, especially on run blocking. One would think Fluker being incredibly large would account for any kind of leverage deficiency. However it’s also possible that his height would impede GMac’s vision over the middle of the field, which may be a problem. Off the top of my head I’m not sure what GMac’s height is v. Fluker… at the very least, though, if he doesn’t redshirt they need to use him in whatever situations they can just to get him experienced. I don’t know if they would do this, but he’d seem to be an ideal candidate for goal-line or short-yardage situations, given the push he can – or at least we think he can – generate.
by cjbama on Jun 26, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great Stuff OTS
"When people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears their people, there is liberty" - Thomas Jefferson
by BamaReturns07 on Jun 26, 2009 2:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There are
some players who won’t live up to the hype but some players will exceed expectations and contribute more than people thought. Mark Ingram and Donta Hightower are good examples. Both were very good recruits out of high school but people were predicting other players to contribute.
This upcoming season I'm gonna refer to Julio Jones as "The Magic Man" and Trent Richardson as "El Diablo"
by AlabamaTitans2009 on Jun 26, 2009 5:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Most people
I talked to before last season thought Jerrell Harris and Courtney Upshaw would start then Hightower comes in and plays just as good as Rolando did in my opinion.
This upcoming season I'm gonna refer to Julio Jones as "The Magic Man" and Trent Richardson as "El Diablo"
by AlabamaTitans2009 on Jun 26, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
own horn tooting time...
….I named Hightower as one of my five freshmen that can make an immediate impact in Yea Alabama ‘08 over Harris and Upshaw, as well as Julio, Ingram, Cody, and BJ Scott. Four out of five ain’t bad. You may all bow to me now.
by Todd on Jun 26, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to Meatloaf
two out of three ain’t bad.
MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--
BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.
by Bamagrad on Jun 26, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
that was good predictions. Who do you think will be the top true freshmen for us this season?
This upcoming season I'm gonna refer to Julio Jones as "The Magic Man" and Trent Richardson as "El Diablo"
by AlabamaTitans2009 on Jun 26, 2009 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly...
…Richardson is the only “lock,” to see significant playing time. As OTS has more than ably pointed out, now that we have some quality depth from both the development of the veteran players under the new staff’s tutelage plus the incoming talent from the past two recruiting classes, it will be hard for anyone to pull another Julio or Hightower. James Carpenter, like Cody, is a JUCO guy and coaches don’t waste scholarships on two year players so bet on him, and maybe Chance Warmack, who enrolled early and will have a leg up on the competition thanks to going through spring practice. Other than those three it’s hard to tell.
by Todd on Jun 26, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I can’t wait to see what Richardson can do. I saw on some website where a scout said he looked like the next Earl Cambell who ran people over for the fun of it. James Carpenter did play pretty good in the A-day game so maybe that will translate to good production during the season. Chance Warmack is a hoss. If he doesn’t start he should be a solid backup. What happened to Tyler Love? Is he not as talented as first thought? I figured he would take over the left tackles position after Andre Smith left.
This upcoming season I'm gonna refer to Julio Jones as "The Magic Man" and Trent Richardson as "El Diablo"
by AlabamaTitans2009 on Jun 26, 2009 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i love to read stuff like this...
… because it really solidifies the link between the hype of the recruit battles and the practical reality of what happens on the playing field. earlier this year, mike tanier of football outsiders did a great piece on how useless draft position is for determining a player’s potential. the real stars are made after the draft, he argues, if they are lucky enough to find a team that provides them the following:
* The workout and conditioning plan given to him by coaches in minicamp.
* The role he is expected to play, and his suitability that role.
* The skills and techniques he is taught in camp, and the reinforcement he receives in those skills.
* The advice and support he gets from family, agent, and teammates in the first months of his career.
* The quality and success of the players around him.
* Truly unpredictable factors, like dumb luck or freak injuries.
this obviously applies for the college game as well. which is why i keep an eye out for items like this one from thursday that gives a peek into coach saban’s effort to develop these recruits once they get to campus.
there is an coaching adage that a team will have one loss for every freshman starter. a good program will keep these kids on the sidelines and bring them along in a deliberate and measured… um, process. by the time they take over the starter positions there should be a minimum of transition for them in terms of getting their game up to speed. and that’s when the nightmare portion of the process really goes into effect.
by kleph on Jun 27, 2009 8:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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