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Top 10 Road Trips I'd Like To See: #10: Rutgers

As you can tell from the current series "Stadiums I've Been to for College Football Games," I like to travel to watch football. Furthermore, as I'm sure you've astutely observed, my team doesn't even have to be involved for me to want to make the trip (e.g. Chapel Hill, Winston-Salem, Starkville, etc.) With that in mind, I've conceived a Top 10 list of places I'd like to see Alabama play and I've ranked them in terms of a combination of the destination itself and the quality of the opponent.

Some awesome potential opponents have been left off of the list because, frankly, they aren't located in places that I particularly want to visit outside of the scenario of a football game being played there. Norman, Oklahoma is a place that fits that bill. Morgantown, West Virginia and South Bend, Indiana are also on that list. And before the Sooners, Mountaineers and Fighting Irish reading this get all huffy about my assessment of their towns and say "Well, Tuscaloosa isn't exactly a vacation destination either," I say to you, "You're absolutely right. If Alabama didn't play football there, I'd have no real reason to go there either." Basically, I'm not pointing any finger at anyone else that I'm not pointing at myself on this one.

There are some fairly major vacation destinations I left off of the list because I have no real desire to go there or we've got it on future schedules already. In the "I have no real desire to go there department," I'm looking at you Las Vegas. At best, Las Vegas would've come in at #10 on the list. If I want to go have a wild weekend, I'll go to New Orleans thank you very much....which I can easily drive to. Not only that, it has better music and food and it doesn't have imitation versions of other cities in it. In the "we have future road trips planned there soon" scenario, New Orleans and Atlanta fit that bill. We're headed to New Orleans to play Tulane in 2012 and we've been playing neutral site games in Atlanta a lot lately as well as having a trip to play Georgia Tech in 2014 on the docket already.

There were also quite a few near misses of places I'd like to go, but they typically missed out because of the quality of the opponent, or because they just didn't make the overall cut on destination desirability as much as the others did.

So, without further adieu, I bring you #10 on the list....

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No, I don't have any burning desire to go to New Brunswick/Piscataway, New Jersey, but I'm always up for a trip to New York...and according to Mapquest, the two are a mere 36.23 miles apart.

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Pickup game of football in Central Park anyone?

Seriously. How awesome would this trip be? New York & Alabama Football. Namath would be in heaven. We should schedule this as a tribute and a "thank you" to Joe if nothing else. Additionally, I'm not sure that we've played in the neighborhood of NYC since the 1986 Kickoff Classic where we beat Ohio State 16-10 at Giants Stadium. Warren St. John could put the Friday night party together. You know he's got connections...or the Greater New York Alabama Alumni Association could put something together. I've got a feeling those folks could put on a pretty serious party.

From an historical perspective too it makes sense. One of college football's most storied programs playing in the Birthplace of Intercollegiate Football (they invented it, we perfected it.) Just imagine the field day ESPN could have putting pregame montages together: old Rutgers football photos from the 1800s shifting into clips from the 1926 Rose Bowl going into a series of Bryant-era clips going into a montage of the resurgence of Rutgers under Schiano and Alabama under Saban. Really, this stuff just writes itself.

This game would figure much higher on the list if Rutgers and NYC were easier to get to from one another. Looking at the NYC/NJ subway map, I'm guessing you'd have to make quite a few transfers (and a decent time investment) to get from Manhattan to New Brunswick (and even further and longer if you're staying with your hipster friends in Williamsburg...if they/their parents can still afford rent that is.) That being said, this is the closest D1 football has to offer for a trip to New York, so I say we snag it. Set it up Mal!

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Rutgers and greater NYC area

Being a NJ resident, and Rutgers fan, I would be ecstatic to see Alabama visit the Garden State for a match up with Rutgers.

Regarding transportation, NYC is an easy trip from Rutgers – no transfers necessary. Assuming you were staying in New Brunswick, you take the NJ Transit North East Corridor line straight into NY’s Penn Station. 50 minute train ride, no transfers required and you are in the heart of NYC. Couldn’t be any easier.

So taking that into consideration, I look forward to seeing your revised ranking for Rutgers ;-).

by TheJomo on Jun 29, 2009 9:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Glad to see...

…it’s an easier train trip than I thought. I figured it’d be in the hour range (and was right about that) but guess I was looking at the map wrong. I guess I was looking at it going through transfer stations, but that doesn’t mean you have to transfer…

So taking that into consideration, I look forward to seeing your revised ranking for Rutgers ;-).

That being said, I know my NYC friends will give me crap about mentioning Jersey as an extension of NYC and my Jersey friends will give me crap about making this an NYC post when it should be about Jersy, so it’ll stay at #10. :P

by Nico2.0 on Jun 29, 2009 10:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Wait, you’re going to start this list with the armpit of the United States?

Ew.

I hope if we ever play Rutgers we make them come to our place.

by PeteHoliday on Jun 30, 2009 9:24 AM CDT reply actions  

Maybe worth a trip if you stay in NYC and only enter the “garden” state for the game… shudder

by PeteHoliday on Jun 30, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait, you’re going to start this list with the armpit of the United States?

Wow, Pete. Talk about stereotyping. Have you ever been to NJ, outside of Newark airport? Couldn’t be that bad a state if it serves as the home to both the U.S.G.A. and the U.S. Equestrian team – not to mention being one of the richest per capita states in the country.

And let’s not kid ourselves, NYC is what it is because of the surrounding greater NY area which includes Northern NJ, Connecticut and lower NY State. And presumably, your roadtrip would really just be about Manhattan. You probably wouldn’t be heading into Brooklyn, Staten Island, Queens or the Bronx – each burough with its own distinct look and feel.

by TheJomo on Jun 30, 2009 11:34 AM CDT reply actions  

I can dig it

Could be a cool trip. Get Ozzie to schedule you for one of their vintage Thursday night games, and you can have the whole weekend in the city!

I also really love travel and really love college football…will be checking back in for these features.

When I say to a kid, ‘Hey, get ready to get knocked on your rear end,’ I also tell him, ‘Learn. Learn why you got knocked on your rear end. --Joseph Vincent Paterno

by jtothep on Jun 30, 2009 5:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Twenty-Five Minutes from NB to New York City

It’s a quick train trip, actually. You can walk to the train from the Hyatt hotel right in downtown — across, incidentally, from the Christ Church, the third spot the Declaration of Independence was read — and be at Penn Station shortly. You can even have a beer on the train. There’s a lot of Revolutionary history in the area. While New Brunswick isn’t beautiful, it is vastly improved and safe and that campus is beautiful.

I’m just going to skip over all the ignorant comments about New Jersey. Until you come and experience it, people will just take shots at it the way racists or anti-Semites used to automatically tell you all they knew about blacks and Jews when they’d never even met one. The important thing is these are two programs with a lot of history — although not yet a lot of winning on the Scarlet Knights end.

If you have a car, you might also consider a ride down to our ancient rival in that first football game in 1869: Princeton. Beautiful campus and it’ll take your breath away. If you contacted the Rutgers Alumni Association, I’m sure they’d help you plan these sorts of events. There’s also the Jersey Shore and Philadelphia.

I’d like to see the game.

by DeanRU on Jul 1, 2009 5:08 AM CDT reply actions  

Dean...thanks for your post

Regarding this comment:

I’m just going to skip over all the ignorant comments about New Jersey.

I’m actually surprised to see those comments from our posters considering how much crap we get about being from/living in Alabama. Regardless, thanks for stopping by. Hopefully we’ll get to use your advice some day.

by Nico2.0 on Jul 1, 2009 7:45 AM CDT reply actions  

I didn’t realize that we weren’t allowed to dislike other states as locations for “destination” games just because some people dislike Alabama.

I’ll try to be more approving in the future.

by PeteHoliday on Jul 1, 2009 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nowhere did I say...

…you aren’t allowed to dislike other states, I said I was surprised see it stated given the crap we’re given. Significant difference.

by Nico2.0 on Jul 1, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

…and more than anything, I was trying to be welcoming to a visitor.

Disagree away as far as I’m concerned though in the big picture.

by Nico2.0 on Jul 1, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

The implication of your “surprise” is that since we’re from Alabama, and people hate Alabama just because it’s Alabama, we must all love all of the other states… without such a presumption, you wouldn’t be surprised to find one person in a group this large who thinks that Jersey is a crappy place for a destination game.

My favorite thing from the visitors so far is this:

I’m just going to skip over all the ignorant comments about New Jersey. Until you come and experience it, people will just take shots at it the way racists or anti-Semites used to automatically tell you all they knew about blacks and Jews when they’d never even met one.
Since we are being charitable, I will just assume that DeanRU has, in front of him, something he believes to be authoritative that indicates that I have never been to New Jersey. He must, right? Surely he wouldn’t be decrying “ignorant comments” while making one… right?

by PeteHoliday on Jul 1, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Since we are being charitable...

…maybe he’s just assuming that, though you may have been to New Jersey, some of your comments are still ignorant. That’s a possibility, right? Surely you can travel to a state and not experience everything that state has to offer…right?

by NiceLittleSaturday on Jul 1, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

We’re still going to have to assume he has that information from somewhere… otherwise he’s just assuming it without anything to back it up, so we’re in the same spot as the one I just mentioned.

by PeteHoliday on Jul 1, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

or...

…‘that information’ may be right here in front of us, on this very thread, next to a picture of some guy in a tuxedo….

by NiceLittleSaturday on Jul 1, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

And there we are, back to calling someone “ignorant” because they hold a view-point with which you disagree.

I think my point has been adequately made. Thanks for your help.

by PeteHoliday on Jul 2, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pete, Pete, Pete...

…you are so much fun. I didn’t call you ignorant. And your point has been adequately made…it’s just not a very good point. You really do crack me up.

by NiceLittleSaturday on Jul 6, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm...
I’m actually surprised to see those comments from our posters

I don’t know if I should call shenanigans on this or not, but for the record, the comments were only from one poster…and I have a hard time believing you’re actually surprised he would make such comments, so….

by NiceLittleSaturday on Jul 1, 2009 8:38 AM CDT reply actions  

north of the mason dixon line = FAIL

by kleph on Jul 1, 2009 8:41 AM CDT reply actions  

You're

…going to dislike a lot of this series then.

by Nico2.0 on Jul 1, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hello, Folks.

I included in that “not bothering to read” that I hadn’t bothered and wouldn’t bother, also all the ones that were sure to come by people. Very good analogy about Alabama. I happen to work in a part of the media where we have a lot of listeners who are from Southern states, and who are therefore written off as racist-bigot-homophobic-inbred hicks with fourth-grade educations.

I wasn’t responding to anyone in particular. As I said, I ignored them, didn’t want to engage them, etc. I was pretty pissed at the drunk kids yelling “F—- You, Navy” a couple seasons back, and I’d be just as disgusted if someone yelled crap like that at Alabama. I didn’t mean to offend anyone. It was just something I generally think about those who automatically disparage people/places in the way I thought I’d see.

I think there was a lot of that thought on the other side, actually, last year when Rutgers was invited to the PapaJohns.com (shoot me now with that name) bowl in Birmingham. As I said, I’d say the same thing to those folks. I knew it’d be a blast down there and was not disappointed. It may also interest you to know that those in South Jersey have similar opinions about those in North Jersey, although it’s a small state and absurd. They’ll tell you they wanted to join the Confederacy, if you ask them.

So, maybe you could have all been on the same side after all.

Enjoy the site. Again, if I did that thing where people comment out of an orifice other than their mouth just ‘cause it’s the internet, I’m sorry. I’m sure an apology is forthcoming for all ill-will and stereotyping of New Jersey as well.

by DeanRU on Jul 1, 2009 4:25 PM CDT reply actions  

How do you determine whether or not something is “ignorant” and ignore it at the same time? This is a trick I would like to learn.

by PeteHoliday on Jul 2, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

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