The RBR Meat Market: July 13th
With the mid-summer football lull now reaching its perigee, business is about to start picking up again in Tuscaloosa. Beginning on Sunday, July 12th, and running through Wednesday, July 22nd, Alabama will hold its second and final high school camp of the summer. This four day period expects to be a big one for the Tide, as many current commitments will be in Tuscaloosa, along with several other prospects we are pursuing hotly, plus many other prospects looking to impress the Tide's coaches in an effort to earn the ever coveted crimson and white offer. As I mentioned previously, space is becoming very limited in the Tide's 2010 class and thus the rate of commitments should begin to slow dramatically, but with that said summer camps are always a very active period, and no one should be surprised if the Tide adds more verbal commitments in the aftermath of the camp.
The hot talk of the past week has centered around Opelika athlete Corey Grant. The elusive Grant has told Andrew Bone that he is tiring of the recruiting process, and a decision is expected shortly. Previously it was a three team race between Alabama, Auburn, and Florida, but most now think the Gators are out and that Grant will stay in-state. For the Tide, Andrew Bone -- who, with a good personal relationship with Grant, is in a good position to know -- thinks the Tide leads, and he has also recently went on the record as saying that Grant has asked for one Alabama commitment's phone number (Philip Sims, I would imagine), and that he prefers to play slot receiver, not tailback. On the other hand, Grant is from Opelika and that is the single worst place in the state of Alabama to recruit, and undoubtedly the Tide's coaches would prefer him be an out-of-state prospect over that. Furthermore, he does have legitimate interest in Auburn, and has taken several unofficial visits to the Tiger campus recently, including taking his father to meet with Auburn offensive coordinator Gus Malzahn. At this point I imagine it could go either way and he may still be undecided at this point. Hopefully he will commit to the Tide sometime this week, but if he delays his decision until this weekend, he may be tipping his hand by which camp he attends. Alabama has a big camp this weekend, as does Auburn, and if he shows up at one of those two, that ought to tell you where he is headed. We'll just have to see how it plays out from here. There is plenty to feel positive about if you bleed crimson, but Auburn fans have plenty to feel positive about too, and there is enough out there to make you legitimately concerned as an Alabama fan. If the Tide can pull Grant, it'll be a huge recruiting coup literally from the heart of enemy territory. On the other hand, if Chizik and company can do the trick, Grant will be the first Auburn commitment from a prospect that Alabama pursued heavily since Mike McNeil committed to the Tigers in January of 2007. Fingers crossed.
Demarco Cobbs recently attended the big summer camp at USC, and most thought the Trojans were his leader after that. Later reports had Cobbs trying to commit to USC, but Carroll and company chose not to accept his commitment, all of which seemed highly likely when Cobbs revealed his top six a few days later and the Trojans were nowhere to be found. This could all be great news for the Tide. USC ought to be out of the picture now, Oklahoma often struggles to get players out of Tulsa area, Texas almost always stays solely in-state in its recruiting, and Arkansas doesn't seem to be in serious contention. Given his very close relationship with Alabama head coach Nick Saban, the smart money may very well be that he ends up in Tuscaloosa. It's obviously still very early and that could easily change, but you do have to feel a bit bullish right now on our chances with Cobbs.
Victor Beasley continues to send his stock through the roof. He recently dominated a Scout.com 7-on-7 camp in Mountain Brook, and it's only a matter of time before he gets a big boost from the recruiting "experts." It's obvious that the Tide has a huge lead here, but his parents are not going to let him commit until later in the year after he's taken some official visits, namely to Duke (Beasley is a great student as well, hence the interest here). Ordinarily that would be cause for concern, but Beasley himself told Andrew Bone that he didn't care what schools offered down the stretch, he had already gotten the one offer he wanted all along. Again, things can change, but for now it looks like Beasley will wear crimson.
Speaking of theoreticals, if things hold as expected with Victor Beasley, you really do have to wonder what that does for the Tide's recruitment of LaDarius Owens. We have gone very hard after him to this point, and I think he's very high on our staff's overall board. On the other hand, with most expecting C.J. Mosley to end up in Tuscaloosa, why bother with Owens? He would play outside linebacker at Alabama, and with Mosley, Beasley, and (probably) Devonta Bolton in this class -- not to mention already having Jerrell Harris and Jonathon Atchison in Tuscaloosa -- exactly what is the marginal value of getting a guy like Owens at that point? At some point, the depth chart at linebacker simply makes the marginal value of getting him almost zero. Again, I think he's a fine player who will do well in the SEC, but as long as things go as expected with Beasley, you cannot help but wonder if we'll quickly turn a bit indifferent on the Jess Lanier product.
And speaking of C.J. Mosley, most still still feel optimistic on the Tide's chances with him. He will be visiting Auburn for their one-day camp on the 18th, but considering he will likely be in Tuscaloosa for our camp immediately after that, it shouldn't be that big of an issue. Furthermore, with a bad season likely in store for Auburn, they will probably hit their peak with Mosley this weekend, and if they cannot get the job done then (which no one expects them to), you really just have to think it won't happen. Mosley has played it quite this summer, visiting only one camp, the first Alabama summer camp. He did not attend the Big Cat Weekend. Also, it's quite nice to hear Mosley speak so well so frequently of Alabama's academics, as he is a very good student in the classroom and that will likely be a determining factor in his ultimate decision. We'll have to wait a while on this young man, but things still look good for the Tide.
One of the bigger surprises of the week has been Nashville's offensive tackle prospect James Stone. Many previously considered the highly-touted, highly intelligent Stone as likely going to Tennessee, but recent rumblings have many Tennessee fans worried that the Tide may very well go into the state and get top talent. I had previously written off Stone a bit, but I think we should keep a closer eye on him now.
The other big surprise of the week came from Illinois wide receiver Kyle Prater. Many experts consider the 6'5 Prater the #1 receiver in the country, and he has generally spoken highly of the Tide, but no one really expected a whole lot out of it. Despite that, Prater surprised many last week when he announced his final four schools as Alabama, Illinois, Oklahoma, and USC. In particular, Philip Sims has been in contact with Prater, and it now seems that the Tide will be getting an official visit from him. I imagine he probably ends up with the Illini, but anything can happen, and it's great to see the Tide in such strong contention for a recruit that we would normally never even have on our radar screen.
Vincent Sanders has continued to make people think it's an Alabama v. Mississippi State battle for his services. Many expected him to follow his 2009 teammate Pat Patterson to Oxford, but with him deciding the skip the upcoming Ole Miss camp, that seems less and less likely. At this point, I doubt Patterson has a firm offer from the Tide, but he's going to wait until closer to NSD to announce, and if we want him, you have to like our chances of getting him. As an aside, normally it would help his case that he is a versatile athlete that could play safety, but with Nick Perry and Jarrick Williams on board, not to mention Keenan Allen still out there, I do not see us taking him on as a safety, so that probably does not help his chances with the Tide that much.
Hopefully this weekend will be the weekend that we lock up the services of tight end Brian Vogler. This is all speculation on my part, but Vogler has said before that he wants to have an overnight trip to Tuscaloosa before he commits, and I would hope that he would come up for the camp this weekend, stay overnight, and commit shortly thereafter. Most think we'll eventually get Vogler, and considering he plans on making his decision before the start of the high school football season (which, to most recruits, means the start of Fall practice) you would reasonably have to expect something to come fairly soon. Again, hopefully we can seal the deal for Mr. Vogler in the coming days.
Finally, we'll close with some quick hitters...
Rivals will be releasing the updated Rivals 100 and Rivals 250 next Monday, and the initial team rankings will be announced the following Monday. Keep your eye on Harrison Jones in the coming couple of weeks. We'll find out this week if Pinson defensive lineman Carlos Gray will get an Alabama offer before the season starts. Lincoln tailback D.J. Howard may get an Alabama offer, depending on his camp performance. Philip Sims turned in a great performance at the Super Seven quarterback camp in Hawai'i over the Fourth of the July weekend; he may get his fifth star with Rivals next week. The Tide may turn up the heat on Louisiana wide receiver prospect Curtis Carter if we miss on Corey Grant. Ditto for Kenny Shaw, though FSU currently leads for him. Bobby Massie has still not qualified at Ole Miss, and is currently taking two summer classes at an undisclosed high school in an attempt to do so. Five-star Florida commitment Matt Elam now plans to take an official visit to Alabama.
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Once again...
….another insightful piece on the recuiting trail by OTS. Thanks.
by akbrown15 on Jul 13, 2009 10:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Auburn Area
How big of mark against Auburn would that be if Alabama was able to get the two best prospects from the Auburn area (Grant and Volger)? I do actually think Auburn has done a good job getting interest in their program, especially from some out of state kids, but to wiff on two kids that close to school. It has to especially be damaging considering it is Alabama.
Also, how exciting is it that the staff got on to Beasley so early? He really seems like with a big senior season that he may be one of the bigger prospects when it is all-said-and-done. Continuing with the Auburn theme it does not speak particularly well for them when Beasley is an Auburn legacy and they are apparently not under consideration.
by Kenny483 on Jul 13, 2009 11:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Prater is a sick athlete. I hope Sims can work some magic.
by brandonh on Jul 13, 2009 11:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Cobbs...
… an article came out this morning that he had eliminated both USC and Texas.
Sounds good to these crimson ears.
by outsidethesidelines on Jul 13, 2009 1:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why did Pete Carrol not accept Cobbs' commitment?
by CJackson on Jul 13, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The rumor...
… going around is that Cobbs has been posting some very pedestrian 40-times as of late.
by outsidethesidelines on Jul 14, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You might like this . . .
Wide Receiver Kenneth Scott has committed to Utah read on to see why it is important.
He climbs the ladder and once he gets going displays competitive top-end speed. He does a nice job off the ball attacking the defensive back’s alignment and eating up cushion. Will push off slightly at the top of the stem and create just enough separation and he possesses the wingspan for a wide catching radius. Plucks on the move and catches the ball away from his frame consistently. Scott is a prospect who is athletic and makes plays when the ball is thrown his way. He competes for the ball and knows what his strengths are. He also has the upside to become a formidable red-zone target with his size and strength. He has many qualities that can compensate for his lack of ideal speed.
And? He was recruited by Tennessee.
Kiffin is our bitch. My bitch personally, I think.
by MeanBobMean on Jul 13, 2009 2:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Looks like they lost a QB prospect to BC as well, and there's not much left for them to go after :)
by Zoltar on Jul 14, 2009 1:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chase Rettig...
… is his name.
And the funny thing is he had UT as his big favorite early, and the Vols could have easily gotten him had they offered then. Instead, they waited on some other guys (all of which spurned them), and in the meantime BC went after him hard. Finally, they tried to get back in it with a late run at him with an offer, but by then it was too late.
by outsidethesidelines on Jul 14, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
go bob
do your thing.
welcome to the SEC kiffykins...
by tempebamafan on Jul 14, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was disappointed that . . .
He didn’t accuse us of cheating on that recruit.
It’s another proof that Utah simply does not get the same respect if you ask me.
by MeanBobMean on Jul 14, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Give him time, man...
…give him time.
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jul 14, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Corey Grant...
…needs to wear crimson. I don’t know anything about the competition in that video, but he appears to have everything you want in a RB — speed, power, vision, elusiveness…simply awesome.
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jul 13, 2009 3:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He is being recruited as a slot receiver by Bama.
by brandonh on Jul 13, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and wears #15...
that underneath screen pass for a TD reminded me of Freddie Millons
by BigChief on Jul 13, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good
Freddie or bad Freddie?
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
by Bens4vcobra on Jul 13, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually...
I meant Freddie Millons Milons
by BigChief on Jul 13, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
but there was a good FM and a bad FM. Good -1999 Bad – 2000
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
by Bens4vcobra on Jul 14, 2009 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course...
… he was healthy in 1999, and hurt in 2000. It’s probably not a coincidence that his production levels varied accordingly.
by outsidethesidelines on Jul 14, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And...
…that 2000 team was such a stellar squad, his awesomeness kinda blended in….
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jul 14, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That
and whole racial/QB thing that he was supposedly in the middle of. Not to mention the coaching staff losing that team after game 2.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
by Bens4vcobra on Jul 15, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only
reason I say game 2 is Millons did have a punt return for a TD against UCLA. Remember when everybody was saying “Freddie for Heisman” before that year?
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
by Bens4vcobra on Jul 15, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know anything about the competition in that video
I believe the first clip is against Prattville, which is about as stout of a defense as you can have at the high school level. It looks like a TD, but he was actually ruled down at the 1, Opelika lost 6 yards on the next series of downs and had to kick a FG. PHS won the game 44-11.
Sorry, had to brag on my high school a little bit.
by zeke2029 on Jul 13, 2009 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just curious...
…isn’t Meat Market supposed to be posted on Tuesday?
Offense sells tickets. Defense wins games. - Paul W. "Bear" Bryant
by TheRedTideConsumes on Jul 13, 2009 8:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
OTS, you question the value of LO
His value being a sucker punch to the booger-eaters…DUH!
Offense sells tickets. Defense wins games. - Paul W. "Bear" Bryant
by TheRedTideConsumes on Jul 13, 2009 8:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A commitment
from Beasley and Cobbs would be the most exciting thing since Hogan bodyslammed Andre Giant at Wrestlemania.
MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--
BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.
by Bamagrad on Jul 13, 2009 8:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Any word on Trovon Reed?
I do not know much about him, but we are listed high on his list. Does anyone know anything about him and what are our chances, or even what interest do we have in him?
Baptman
by baptman on Jul 13, 2009 9:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Reed
Elite wide receiver from Louisiana, most think he is a certain LSU lock. We might get a visit though, but not much else.
by Kenny483 on Jul 14, 2009 7:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He might visit...
… but there seems to be little interest in him by ‘Bama, and little given back in return. He’ll wear purple and gold.
by outsidethesidelines on Jul 14, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Corey Grant...
… the publisher of the Auburn Rivals site says that despite a late surge by the Tigers, Alabama leads…
by outsidethesidelines on Jul 14, 2009 2:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Translation:
Despite AU throwing lots of money at him, he can still tell the difference between sh#t and shinola.
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jul 14, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure of the translation, but
if anyone speaks bullshit, it’s you.
"Jay Jacobs can't go to the bathroom without Bobby Lowder's permission" - Paul Finebaum
by GumptownTiger on Jul 15, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How else...
…would I know what the hell you were saying?
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jul 15, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vous parlez beaucoup de merde vos dents sont brunes et votre haleine sent des fèces
"Jay Jacobs can't go to the bathroom without Bobby Lowder's permission" - Paul Finebaum
by GumptownTiger on Jul 15, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grant
Grant has more explosiveness than any back in Alabama in a long time.
by sonofchains on Jul 14, 2009 6:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Grant
He has more explosiveness than any back to come through Alabama in a long time.
by sonofchains on Jul 14, 2009 6:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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