A major lawsuit has being filed that's going to send shockwaves across Jordan-Hare and The Plains. We'll have the info around 12:30
That comes directly from the WJOX twitter page. Pretty much all of the bigger sites this morning have been abuzz with talk of former Auburn offensive lineman Chaz Ramsey filing a lawsuit against AU, presumably regarding his departure from the team. Obviously I don't know the specifics of all that went down, but as per this article, things got pretty ugly with his injury.
I'm not expecting much out of this one, honestly. There may be some headlines for a while, but I imagine the claims end up either being baseless or, if legitimate, an out-of-court settlement complete with a rigid confidentiality agreement will result. Either way, nothing major coming out of either of those two end scenarios. But it's a slow news day, and frankly nothing else is going on, so I'll put it up here.
I will say two more things on the subject, to close: (1) If Ramsey ever gets a dime, he ought to send Glen Dorsey at least half of it, and (2) Auburn should really stop recruiting players named Ramsey.
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IT'S ALL A BAMMER CONSPIRACY!!!
jk GT :)
Offense sells tickets. Defense wins games. - Paul W. "Bear" Bryant
by TheRedTideConsumes on Jul 16, 2009 11:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Auburn should really stop recruiting players named Ramsey.
And Beasley
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
by Bens4vcobra on Jul 16, 2009 12:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow!
Things must be REALLY REALLY slow when this is a news story.
by akbrown15 on Jul 16, 2009 12:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh they are...
… I think the peanut butter bacon bread recipe is getting the call up next.
by outsidethesidelines on Jul 16, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
whatever
happened to that tailgating recipe thread? Is that over? I only saw a few recipes posted. That might be a good one to kick back into gear.
by bammer on Jul 16, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
start posting them....
….and we’ll start bumping them (so long as they don’t sound gross and/or stupid)
by Todd on Jul 16, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha! I posted to my Facebook page.
"Nick Saban is the Robert Mugabe of college coaches."
-Paul Finebaum
by Bubba Chang on Jul 16, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
leave to those two morons up there to say something as stupid as “going to send shockwaves…” god I hate those two idiots…
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
by Bens4vcobra on Jul 16, 2009 12:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Indeed
And if this lawsuit is such a big story why didn’t they lead off with it? I can’t stand those guys.
by JR01 on Jul 16, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I
JUST checked al.com and nothing… so much for shockwaves.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
by Bens4vcobra on Jul 16, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://blog.al.com/goldmine/2009/07/chaz_ramsey_suing_former_aubur.html
although i’m particularly interested in seeing how one takes a case to trail.
by kleph on Jul 16, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've had issues w/
Au’s training staff for sometime. Whether it has been player’s who come back from injury only to find themselves hurt in little to no time or it’s linemen who are in such bad shape they cant do their job so they resort to jumping off or holding.
What happened to Ramsey is a shame, the fact that Goodlett reacted the way he did shows something was amiss. Ramsey worked his ass off and what did he get in return? Abox with all his shit in it. Nall took a situation that was bad and made it worse by 1)having his head too far up his own ass to kno what was going on and b)not explaining to Ramsey what his intent was. Nall and AU blew it on this one.
"Jay Jacobs can't go to the bathroom without Bobby Lowder's permission" - Paul Finebaum
by GumptownTiger on Jul 16, 2009 12:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
These
kinds of issues give Tony Franklin’s comments some credibility. Where was Tuberville in all this?
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
by Bens4vcobra on Jul 16, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sending out resumes
"Jay Jacobs can't go to the bathroom without Bobby Lowder's permission" - Paul Finebaum
by GumptownTiger on Jul 16, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's still doing that
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
by Bens4vcobra on Jul 16, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
tough economy dude
"Jay Jacobs can't go to the bathroom without Bobby Lowder's permission" - Paul Finebaum
by GumptownTiger on Jul 16, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, it's not like...
…he’s not keeping his ears open.
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jul 16, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t know much about it (aside from what was in the article), but I definitely get a “spoiled child” vibe off of Ramsey.
That said, I’ll be really interested to see what the basis for the suit is — I can’t really come up with anything compelling from the article.
by PeteHoliday on Jul 16, 2009 1:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I imagine...
… thatt he will be suing with the a malpractice claim against Auburn’s doctors, claiming damages to be him missing out on the rest of his collegiate career, and the chance for a big-time payday in the NFL one day.
Seems like it would be a longshot, though. Like I said earlier, I don’t think anyone will either really come of this, sans a few headlines.
by outsidethesidelines on Jul 16, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ignoring the liability and immunity issues,
I’d think damages from a future NFL career will be speculative and hard to prove. I Ifhe’s back is really bad, he can get a pretty good award for pain and suffering. Again, this assumes he can show some liability.
I’m curious to see what Ramsey says about the chop block, i.e. was it accidental or did Nall teach it.
by Nick's Hat Band on Jul 16, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree...
… I think the damages from a possible NFL career will be a lost cause. They may be able to prove that he had a good shot at the NFL one day, but AU could easily point to the short length of NFL careers and the highly speculative nature of the claim to reduce the damages almost to nothing, even if Ramsey can win on the claim. It might be like the USFL’s antitrust claim… you win, and then get a dollar in damages.
And honestly, I think he’ll have a tough time getting pain and suffering. To be sure, I’m aware that he suffered plenty of both, but so what? Pain and suffering is part and parcel of being a football player, and you accept that inevitability when you agree to play football. If a player can legitimately win on that claim — without having to prove a higher standard of medical malpractice causing more pain and suffering than should have been the case, given competent medical care and advice — then hell every college football player to ever play the game could sue their former schools.
I’ll be honest, I’m with Pete, I just do not see him getting much from this lawsuit. The only way I can see him cashing in here is if Auburn has a ton of dirty secrets that Ramsey and his legal team will spill in the process of the litigation, and they pay him a lot of money in an out-of-court settlement to shut him up. That’s the only way I can see Ramsey getting a significant payday here.
by outsidethesidelines on Jul 16, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As
NHB alluded too, Auburn is immune from lawsuits, is this correct? If so, who would the suit be against? Tuberville? That would be the only justification for using “shockwaves.” Sorry I’m still not over it…
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
by Bens4vcobra on Jul 16, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The way Ramsey’s lawyer talked on JOX, it seems they do have plenty to disclose that would hurt the athletic department.
by brandonh on Jul 16, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think
he’s as much the problem as his dad is.
"Jay Jacobs can't go to the bathroom without Bobby Lowder's permission" - Paul Finebaum
by GumptownTiger on Jul 16, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I
think I heard his dad on JOX way back. Sounded like a Grade A Cocksucker.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
by Bens4vcobra on Jul 16, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
[Insert comments about apples, trees, and the average relative distance that the former falls from the latter]
by PeteHoliday on Jul 16, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His lawyer said on JOX this morning that they are suing Nall and another trainer for compensatory damages as he could have played in the NFL, was All-SEC as a freshman, etc. He also said they will go after Tubbs if they find out he might have given orders for him to train during his surgery rehab.
The surgeon that worked on Ramsey said he has never had anything go wrong with that type of surgery and Ramsey would be playing if the they had not pushed him to train. And other players overheard the trainers telling him to “man-up” if he wanted to play and remain on scholarship. Seems like a decent case.
by brandonh on Jul 16, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It may be...
…a ‘decent case’, but after his infamous chop-block, he’ll get no sympathy from me.
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jul 16, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
anybody that plays dirty on that level is a thug.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
by Bens4vcobra on Jul 16, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anybody...
…that plays for Auburn….
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jul 16, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not advocating for the guy, I just think he was treated unfairly.
by brandonh on Jul 16, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure...
…Glen Dorsey feels terrible about it.
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jul 16, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not buying it.
Your doctor says for you to do one thing, some guy who’s never attended medical school tells you to do something else . . . and you listen to the guy without the M.D. behind his name? Yeah, no. That’s just stupid.
It might not be terribly difficult to establish a duty of care between the trainer and the player, but you then have to prove that the course of action the trainer recommended couldn’t have had the desired outcome.
My opinion is that this is legitimized extortion: Ramsey has some dirt on AU, and he’s hoping for an iron-clad payday in the form of a lawsuit settlement, which he’ll probably get because no matter how bad the suit is, it’s probably enough to get to trial.
by PeteHoliday on Jul 16, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nailed it...
My opinion is that this is legitimized extortion: Ramsey has some dirt on AU, and he’s hoping for an iron-clad payday in the form of a lawsuit settlement, which he’ll probably get because no matter how bad the suit is, it’s probably enough to get to trial.
I think you nailed it with that one. He’ll never actually win before a judge and a jury (at least not enough in damages to justify the legal expenses and time of pursuing it), but hell it doesn’t take anything to create an issue of material fact and survive a motion for summary judgment, so damn near anything is going to make it to trial. I’d bet good many there’s a great chance he’ll be next in line for the AU buyouts to keep his mouth shut, right up there with Bowden, Oliver, and Tubby. And, well, if that’s the case, you at least have to give him credit for knowing the operation down that way and having the balls to call them on it to make some money.
by outsidethesidelines on Jul 16, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you saying
this is a legalese chop block of sorts?
I bleed crimson and white...I puke Vol puke orange. RTR
by SugarBowl93 on Jul 16, 2009 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and you listen to the guy without the M.D. behind his name?
True but the guy with the M.D. isn’t threatening you with (no) playing time. The coaches are supposed to follow what the trainers/doctors say, but if this didn’t happen, I can see where Ramsey is coming from.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
by Bens4vcobra on Jul 17, 2009 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bottom line is still that he made a conscious choice to sacrifice his personal well-being to try to get playing time, and now he wants to blame someone else for that decision.
If the trainers were telling him to ‘roid up, and his doctor said not to, would we have the same level of sympathy if he did? It’s basically the same thing.
by PeteHoliday on Jul 17, 2009 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
idk for me...
…I prefer being able to stand up under my own power.
Being competitive is one thing, being foolish with ones own well being is another.
If the training staff didn’t have the integrity to protect him, then he should have.
He should sue himself for negligence.
Offense sells tickets. Defense wins games. - Paul W. "Bear" Bryant
by TheRedTideConsumes on Jul 17, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but isnt it against NCAA rules for coaches to
have anything to do with offseason workouts?
I thought the coaches were not supposed to be involved in the workouts and weightlifting during may-june-july?
by tmcworldwide on Jul 17, 2009 5:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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