Jermaine Preyear Transferring?
And they keep dropping like flies... According to published reports, Alabama freshman tailback Jermaine Preyear is considering a transfer.
Preyear initially committed to Alabama on March 2nd, 2007, and in doing so he became the second commitment of the 2008 recruiting class. Alabama was in need of physical tailbacks who could work between the tackles, and a recruit who filled such a need could have played as a true freshman. Unfortunately for Preyear, he had to greyshirt because of a shoulder injury, Mark Ingram became the one to fill that role in 2008, and when Preyear finally arrived on campus in early 2009, the depth chart situation at Alabama had drastically changed. Since then Ivan Matchett also signed with the Tide, Mark Ingram had a great true freshman campaign, and the Tide signed two more highly-touted tailbacks in Trent Richardson and Eddie Lacy. And making matters worse, the Tide picked up the commitment of Jalston Fowler early this year as for the 2010 class, and he will enroll early. In other words, Preyear's clear path to early playing time quickly turned into a very muddled depth chart that now sees him buried far down the list, and apparently he is considering a transfer.
Hopefully all will work out well for Preyear. He seems like a good kid and he's a hard worker, but in all fairness it looks like it will be extremely tough for him to see any playing time any time soon, so you certainly cannot blame him for pondering a possible transfer. Either way, again, just like with Alonzo Lawrence, you just have to hope it works well and that he makes the best possible decision for himself.
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sh**
so much for quality depth.
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by Stuck in the Plains on Jul 19, 2009 8:48 PM CDT reply actions
im
not worried about our depth at RB…
"First, there are winners and know they are winners. Then there are the losers who know they are losers. Then there are those who are not winners but don’t know it. They’re the ones for me. They never quit trying. They’re the soul of our game."– Paul "Bear" Bryant
Maybe I'm just an idgit but, am I leaving someone out?
This, based on my limited knowledge, is why I was lamenting depth: Upchurch’s neck; Grant’s inability to be the north-south guy Saban likes; Coffee gone to greener pastures; (I’m uncertain whether Lacy has/will qualify); now, possibly Preyear. So, what does that leave us, depth-wise (talking about the ’09 season only)? Ingram; Matchett; Goode; TR; and Huber at fullback/h-back. Did I forget someone?
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by Stuck in the Plains on Jul 20, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
well
If Lacy does qualify that gives us 5 deep…with all 5 being pretty good quality.
"First, there are winners and know they are winners. Then there are the losers who know they are losers. Then there are those who are not winners but don’t know it. They’re the ones for me. They never quit trying. They’re the soul of our game."– Paul "Bear" Bryant
I've still got some eligibility...
but i strained my MCL playing softball the other night so i expect a redshirt.
Thank you...
I thought I was forgetting someone.
I just won a t-shirt tearing contest against the Tennessee coaching staff
by Stuck in the Plains on Jul 20, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions
We have no way of knowing
if Preyear was given a scholarship for this year or not but I’m going to guess he was not given a scholarship. If he was given one we should have seen this coming. He just seems the least likely of all our RB’s to see the field ever!! I mean the number of injuries for Preyear to play would be huge.
I hope he finds somewhere to continue his education.
Nick Saban is not a bad guy in this situation, read Pete’s post about how schollys are now year by year. I’m sure Preyear knew that when he signed.
I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.
If Preyear is gone, would we have to greyshirt to get under the 25 if EL & DS qualify?
Preyear was one of the 4 that reported in the spring, 2 of which would count towards ’08, 2 towards ’09. Since he never played and only participated in one spring practice, does he count against either year? Can we now count 2 in the ’08 class and only 1 in the ’09? That would leave us with room for all of the signing class.
He would have...
…counted against the 09 class, but we already had room for Lacy and Sentimore, anyway.
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jul 19, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure if EL & DS both qualify...
we were looking to have to gray-shirt somebody, probably one of the guys with recent surgeries. If we can back count one more to ’08, that need goes away.
Probably a moot point as it sounds like a long shot for either one of those guys to make it, but just a thought I had.
read this
All grant in aid for the next school year is allocated.
Offense sells tickets. Defense wins games. - Paul W. "Bear" Bryant
by TheRedTideConsumes on Jul 19, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Again, no, that's not true
More scholarships can still be awarded, but no more can be taken away.
by PeteHoliday on Jul 20, 2009 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions
pardon my generality. you are correct.
Offense sells tickets. Defense wins games. - Paul W. "Bear" Bryant
by TheRedTideConsumes on Jul 20, 2009 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Since...
he’s a Mobile kid, I’d love to see him end up at USA
Yep
he played at 6A Davidson.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
If he transfers,
I’m thinking So. Miss. It’s close to home. And, if he sits, he’s going to miss Fletcher’s last year in any event. But, next year, he’d be teamed up with Deandre Brown, in the 3rd year of Fedora’s system, and could become the C-USA version of Michael Bush. He would instantly be the best back in the league.
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by Stuck in the Plains on Jul 20, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Eh...
… I’d bet on South Alabama.
by outsidethesidelines on Jul 20, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
That doesn't make much sense for him since...
…USA doesn’t play until 2010. If he transfers to a lower division he doesn’t have to sit a year, so he could transfer to any other in state 1AA schools and have a chance at starting immediately, while at USA he’d still have to wait a year to play even though he is eligible.
Momma says no.
Offense sells tickets. Defense wins games. - Paul W. "Bear" Bryant
by TheRedTideConsumes on Jul 20, 2009 12:34 AM CDT reply actions
Great quote...
“I had to get him to realize, ‘You just got here,’” she said."
Could just be normal freshman disillusionment, homesickness, the difficulty of the transition, and a thousand other things.
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by Stuck in the Plains on Jul 20, 2009 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions
So.. he's transferring out without even being enrolled for a football season?
that’s a new one to me.
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jul 20, 2009 6:51 AM CDT reply actions
OTS who is your avatar?
Someone pithy and/or famous I assume
dont forgot to add
“universally dis-credited” to ol milty’s bio.
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by tempebamafan on Jul 21, 2009 5:15 AM CDT up reply actions
you know, that whole "M3" explosion that's been in the news lately...
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by tempebamafan on Jul 21, 2009 5:15 AM CDT up reply actions
"universally dis-credited" to ol milty’s bio.
How so?
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
he was part of the lazze fair vangaurd
that called for an end to government regulation of securities and investment markets. he and his ilk said that the rational self interest of industry would be sufficient enough to cause it to police itself in a manner that was most efficient, more efficient than with regulation. as his theories gained traction the western economies conformed more to his(and industry’s) wishes and by the end of the 90’s the era of unfettered capitalism had been ushered in. it took about 10 years to completely destroy itself. you can call keynesianism a fraud or wasteful or whatever, but it never crashed and burned with such spectacularly devistating results as what “uncle milty” hath wrought upon this world.
FWIW, i dont support either model. me being a huge chomsky fan, it might not suprise you that i am in favor of an economic model that looks entirely different from “capitalism” or “communism”. simply put, both ideologies are fantasies that rely on coercion and greed to stay afloat, both have brought misery to the masses, and neither of them are concerned with preserving liberty and freedom of choice, they are only concerned with the further consolidation of power into the hands of the few.
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by tempebamafan on Jul 21, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
You act as if MF was an anarcho-capitalist. He wasn’t. Friedman himself said that the government should be the umpire, but not playing third base.
you can call keynesianism a fraud or wasteful or whatever, but it never crashed and burned with such spectacularly devistating results as what "uncle milty" hath wrought upon this world.
Actually, you could easily point to the Feds manipulation of interest rates starting after the 2001 slow down as to a major reason why we are in the mess we are in currently. We didn’t have a national bank for 50 years. It wasn’t until after a national bank was established that the Depression happened. The only thing Kenyes policy has ever successfully accomplished is growing and centralizing government power.
both have brought misery to the masses, and neither of them are concerned with preserving liberty and freedom of choice,
I’d like you to explain this. Living standards in “capitalist” countries are higher with lower unemployment compared to countries under different systems, particularly Latin American countries whose leaders love Chomsky’s ideas.
they are only concerned with the further consolidation of power into the hands of the few.
Free market economics isn’t a “system” that was established by anybody. Its simply something that happens when people are free. It occurs naturally because its based on human action, people satisfying their innate desires to get what they want and need on their own. Friedman and others simply observed these things, and wrote about them. You are the one following a self-invented moralistic mythology.
As for Chomsky, he isn’t the only Left-Libertarian out there, certainly wasn’t the first. I agree with a lot of his views. Specifically US foreign policy, war on drugs, corporatism etc… I do find his theory on wages somewhat silly. He (and other left libertarians) view employment like slavery. I’m sure (just based off reading other left libertarians) he advocates all workers exist in a contract system, as opposed to an employment system. Not a bad concept but again I think his opinion that employment is on par with slavery is silly.
My problem with left libertarians isn’t that I disagree with where they are coming from, I certainly agree with where a lot of them come from. I just differ on the “cure for the disease.”
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
friedman wanted less government intervention than many of his peers, he called for the era we had in the 90's til now
and yeah lets compare the living standards of cuba to the dominican reppublic or venezuala to columbia. what about brazil to argentina and nicaragua to honduras? just because the standard of living is nice in the West is nice doesn’t mean capitalism and in particular the late 20th century version that MF is the father of known as “neo-liberalism”, is going to inherently raise the standard of living, in fact as i pointed out, many countries who have tried to create an alternative model have faired much better than their peers when it comes to economic development and standard of living issues like infant mortality literacy and access to education and health care. ask a hatian if he’d mind the vile evil specter of communism that so many of his neighbors have suffered under in cuba. he’d take that in a heartbeat over continuing to toil in a slave labor camp (that is just about the most and only accurate description you can give to 3rd world countries foolish/corrupt enough to participate in the kind of “structural adjustment programs” handed down by the IMF and World Bank)
and you’re right there is no one “free market system” there is only the fantasy of it that is constantly trotted out as the ideal by corpratists/fascists/republicans/weirdo right wing academics. if you want to see a good example of an economy that is neither communist or capitalist, you can look to japan. that small, resource deficient country, raised itself out of the devistation it suffered at the end of WW2 and has become one of the worlds leading economies,and it was due to state “interventionalism/management” of the economy, not a strict dogmatic adherence to marxism or neo-liberalism.
for us to pretend that there are only 2 methods and 1 was proven correct, the other wrong, is just juvenile and ignorant. furthermore i think it serves to keep people ignorant about the other options we might have. corporations and capitalists have shown themselves incapable of successfully running an economy (please explain TARP and TALF if capitalism works, and dont try and give me that bullshit line about “the democrats force fannie and freddie to insure 5 % of the loans that recently defaulted. 5%!” anyone who cares to do the research already knows the mortgages that defaulted in the highest rates are the jumbo mortgages followed by sub prime, none of those are loans the government “forced” on anyone, those are the loans the “innovators of modern capitalism” created. they shat the bed, not freddie and fannie. furthermore the real issue was the M3 supply, which since the repeal of Glass Stegal (1999), jumped up something like 1000% in 8 years )
as far as chomsky’s position on a basis to run an economy, i’ve read a shit ton of his books and haven’t yet seen him offer an economic model that he says would work best for the interests of humanity. thats one of his most common criticisms in fact, that he “only sees the problems but not the solutions man” well like Ray Callahan said in Tommy Boy, “step 1 is finding out the source of the problem, step 2 would be to do something about it.” (“it’s a pine scented air freshener”).
overall though i certainly dont agree with many “left” policies and models either, i just understand more where they’re coming from. at least in the context of, a reaction to the last 100 years of the western capitalist model. frankly it makes more sense for bolivia to thumb their nose at the west and do what they’re doing. and as far as America goes, it makes no sense for us to pretend that what just happened wasn’t proof that we cannot allow a corporate agenda to be the basis of our economy. we need to manage it, or the greedy reckless morons on wall street really will be the death of us all. the era of neo-liberalism has been a failure, and the only responsible way to react to that is to call it for what it was, and insist that we move forward to find an alternative.
(apologies for the rambling nature of my response, the wife has been at me today to do crap around the house, i been in the office when i can sneak away from her ever watchful eye. it’s like being in a cambodian killing field, only i get in trouble for smiling or thinking about football instead of doing housework)
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by tempebamafan on Jul 22, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Both pithy and famous and handsome!
Better than one of Todd’s rationalist philosophers
Maybe...
…I should go for a Noam Chomsky avatar…
by Nico2.0 on Jul 20, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
speaking of avatars...
who is that in yours?
"First, there are winners and know they are winners. Then there are the losers who know they are losers. Then there are those who are not winners but don’t know it. They’re the ones for me. They never quit trying. They’re the soul of our game."– Paul "Bear" Bryant
That's Nico performing on the quad as a mime for beer money.
"Nick Saban is the Robert Mugabe of college coaches."
-Paul Finebaum
Gypsy punk rock
I’ve heard their shows are crazy… I’m assuming you’ve seen them live?
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
Their shows...
…are a blast. I’ve been them five times in four different cities (Atlanta x 2, Austin, Dallas, Houston). The Houston show was super crazy. They had the crowd whipped into an absolute frenzy. I left the show soaked head to toe in sweat. Afterward, I bought a large pizza on the street from some pizza store that apparently rolls up to venues after shows in Houston and just sells them out of a van. I must’ve eaten that thing in five minutes I was so hungry. I also ended up splitting a cab with these Portuguese people and gave them hell about the USA beating Portugal in soccer in the 2002 World Cup. Oh, it was a great night. Sorry for the tangent, but yeah, they’re shows are crazy.
I vote for an Immanuel Kants avatar
That would be fun and insightful!
We are not the same persons this year as last; nor are those we love. It is a happy chance if we, changing, continue to love a changed person. ~W. Somerset Maugham
by BamaReturns07 on Jul 20, 2009 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Chomsky FTW!
“Manufacturing Consent” is one of the most important books ever written.
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by tempebamafan on Jul 21, 2009 5:14 AM CDT up reply actions
what?

you dont like Chomsky? Hugo does…
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by tempebamafan on Jul 21, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Chomsky...
goes well with left handed cigarettes.
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by Stuck in the Plains on Jul 21, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
read "Year 501"
and tell me it’s for potheads… people who criticize chomsky (sorry to offend) often cant even fucking comprehend the inside cover flap of his books, not that more than 2% of them have ever even bothered to challenge the preconceived notions in their feeble scared ignorant minds. so to expect them to read something, anything really, is kind of asking alot.
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by tempebamafan on Jul 21, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
i'll shut up now...
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by tempebamafan on Jul 21, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agree
since tempe could be the sticky icky hook-up and we could all sit around singing rammer jammer and how much we hate the man. Although “the man” may be a different man to each one of us. It would still work.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
hey i believe in black helicopters too man!!!
okay not really… corporate ones though…..looks both ways and sneaks off…
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by tempebamafan on Jul 22, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
I've read it...
I am as pinko as they come…It was pluck and cheek.
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by Stuck in the Plains on Jul 22, 2009 5:41 AM CDT up reply actions
ah...paranoid....
perhaps i had one too many of the aforementioned “cigarettes” myself.
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by tempebamafan on Jul 22, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
seriously
chomsky is the most important intellectual in the western world and we all should be payying much much closer attention to his works. in his book year 501 (published in 1993) he accurately predicted the bursting of the M3 bubble that we saw over the last 2 years. in 1986 he published “islam as the enemy” and suggested that groups like the Mujahadeen would soon become targets for american war hawk propaganda as the veil of the so-called “soviet menace” was lifted and the plausibility of the USSR remaining a threat was going to die out. and as i said earlier, Manufacturing Consent stands alone as the most insightful and urgent political science work of the last 50 years.
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by tempebamafan on Jul 21, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow
how ironic is that? An ardent centralist holding up a book written by an ardent decentralist.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
indeed
i dont think chomsky would have much, of anything that is positive, to say about chavez’s regime. i’m pretty sure ol noam would give chavez credit for surviving the Bush administration backed coup attempt that he survived though.
ultimately i dont think chavez would want chomsky in his backayrd poking around either. chavez just recognized how valid and also useful Chomsky’s critque of the USA is to him, and so like any power hungry politician/dictator/3 time elected executive who survived one coup, he’s willing and in fact eager to co-opt chomsky’s message for the furtherance of his own.
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by tempebamafan on Jul 22, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok, not that I ever would...
….but I just inspected you and as an editor I totally have power to ban you or OTS even though you are site editors as well. Same is true for you and banning me, or OTS banning the both of us, so I guess we’ve got ourselves and old fashioned mexican stand off..
NOBODY
expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise!… Surprise and fear… fear and surprise… Our two weapons are fear and surprise… and ruthless efficiency! Our three weapons are fear, and surprise, and ruthless efficiency… and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope… Our four… no… Amongst our weapons… Hmf… Amongst our weaponry… are such elements as fear, surpr… I’ll come in again.
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by tempebamafan on Jul 21, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
SNAP!
We are not the same persons this year as last; nor are those we love. It is a happy chance if we, changing, continue to love a changed person. ~W. Somerset Maugham
by BamaReturns07 on Jul 20, 2009 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Y'all keep...
…talkin’ philosophy, so I’m gonna have to bust out the Plato!

Umm…wait….
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jul 21, 2009 8:27 AM CDT reply actions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_cave
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by tempebamafan on Jul 21, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions
d'oh
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_cave
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by tempebamafan on Jul 21, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
the link got posted twice?!
i knew it! a bloody glitch in the matrix!
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by tempebamafan on Jul 22, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions

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