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Five Players Alabama Can't Afford to Lose to Injury: #1 Greg McElroy

Previously:

#5 - James Carpenter
#4 - Justin Woodall
#3 - Orlando McCain Rolando McClain
#2 - Julio Jones

We've come to the end of the list, and as many of you have guessed already the person we can least afford to lose to injury is QB Greg McElroy. It may seem strange to think that an untested, first year starter is the most important cog in the machine, but consider these three factors:

1. The Offense Will Only Go As Far as McElroy Can Take It

Last year with John Parker Wilson we watched and Alabama offense that could be brutally efficient with a safe mix of a dominating ground attack and the ability to pass on our own terms, but a large part of that success was centered around an offensive line stocked with veteran experience and leadership that was able to play as a cohesive unit throughout (much) of the season.  It was the best overall line we have fielded this century and let us get away with some very unimaginitive play calling because we didn't need to do anything fancy.  We were able to run the ball straight down opponents' throats over and over again while depending on a solid defense to make sure the "explosive" spark we sorely lacked never became an issue....until Florida and Utah put us in a position to need scores and need scores quickly.  Sadly, those scores were unattainable, and that is the kind of situation we may find ourselves in a little more frequently than we would like this coming season.  Though the talent is there to replicate last year's line play, fielding the right five guys in the right grouping and getting them to gel quickly is something we all better be on our knees praying about every single night for the next 36 days, and while we're down there it wouldn't be a bad idea to say a few prayers that the right five guys in the right grouping manage to stay healthy all season long as well. 

Bringing it back to McElroy, with an uncertain line, we will have to depend on McElroy's understanding of the offense and game management skills to keep us out of bad situations, i.e. turnovers and negative plays that put our defense in a hole and set up their offense with favorable field position.  If we can pound the ball as successfuly as we did last year, then throwing at our pleasure becomes another great luxury, one that McElroy should be perfectly capable of exploiting.  But if we aren't quite as dominant on the ground, or if we find ourselves in an unfortunate "we gotta score on this drive or it's over" situation, every receiver on the roster can step up all they want...if McElroy can't get them the ball, it won't matter.

2.  What Backup Plan?

Though Star Jackson has the athletic ability and raw talent to likely become a solid QB in the future and A.J. McCarron is already drawing big time praise from his teammates, the likeliest scenario to replace an injured McElroy is walk on Thomas Darrah. Darrah took the lion's share of snaps with the second team offense on A-Day and, while not spectacular, didn't do anything to embarass himself while Jackson, on the other hand, was going 4 for 13 with two picks.  Darrah has been around longer, he knows the system better, and has taken actual game snaps (admittedly during junk time).  But he's still a walk on, and he's still a walk on for a reason.  Let the notion that our season may wind up on his shoulders sink in for a minute.

3. McElroy Has Already Assumed a Leadership Role On the Team

From USA Today:

Though McElroy has only been in charge of the huddle for a brief time, his teammates, on both sides of the ball, have already embraced him as a leader. The offense returns only four starters, so there will be growing pains. But as corner back/return specialist Javier Arenas says, "Seeing him this spring, gave me a relaxing type of feeling that we're going to be alright. He put everyone's mind at ease."

From that same article Saban himself is high on his praise of young McElroy, saying he i:

"pleased with..his improvement, his leadership, his game management, all the things he's done in his part of it. He's an extremely bright guy. He's got really good character and he's a great role model. He has the personality to affect other people around him so from an intangible standpoint, he's A plus and he sort of plays quarterback that way too. He anticipates what's happening because he's bright and he's got good natural instincts and anticipation of what to do. He may not be the A No. 1 most talented guy but he certainly has enough ability to make every play he needs to make. Because of his intangibles, his anticipation, his understanding, he's very capable of being very good at his position."

The players believe in him, the coaches believe in him, and it sounds like even he believes in him:

He dreams big and wears storied No. 12 for his dad, who loved Joe Namath. McElroy was not satisfied with last year's 12-2 season. When asked whether it helped restore some of the program's storied tradition and legacy, he is resolute. "I mean, what have we done? We haven't won a championship. In the three years I've been here all we've won is the PetroSun Independence Bowl. We haven't won anything. We're proud of where we've gotten this team to but until we come home with a crystal ball or a significant trophy and something to be proud of, with all due respect to the Independence Bowl, we want to go to the absolute top. If you talk to most of our fans, without an SEC championship or national championship the season can't be deemed a complete success. That's the attitude we want to establish around here."

Talk like that endears him to a fanbase before the season, certainly, but until he delivers the goods it's just that...talk.  Thankfully he has the knowledge of the offense, the emerging skill players around him, and an excellent coaching staff around him to help him succeed.

 

Next up: Five players that need to step up in 2009.

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Yikes

You that unsure of Star and A.J. being able to step in if the unimaginable happens?

I don’t know, I don’t usually disagree but Julio and Rolo would be my 2 then 1

But The Ginger is important

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by Wallacewade04 on Jul 31, 2009 9:31 AM CDT reply actions  

Walk ons

How many walk on QB’s have played at Alabama in the last twenty five years that played before a highly touted 4 star QB with raw talent? Can Star be any worst than Spencer Pennington or Brandon Avalous or Mark Gillian? I don’t think so. Star played against the first team defense during the A day game if I am not mistaken. Darrah played against the second team defense. There is a big difference between the two. It concerns me that a suppose it 4 star QB can’t hand it off just as well JPW or Gmac will do. I don’t buy this Darrah talk. If he is better that Star where is his Scholarship? I

by Geauxbama85 on Jul 31, 2009 10:13 AM CDT reply actions  

As far as talent goes...

…Jackson beats him hands down. As far as experience goes, Darrah wins out period. Yes, Star can “hand the ball off as well” as JP or McElroy, but we probably won’t have the luxury of just handing the ball off, ESPECIALLY if McElroy is out and the other teams knows that’s all we will do.

by Todd on Jul 31, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Also...

…Pennington and Guillon were on scholarship, and both Darrah and Jackson played against the 2nd team D.

by Todd on Jul 31, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Damn you scuba Steve..

"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken

by Bens4vcobra on Jul 31, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Also

Saban matched up the 1st team D against the 1st team O on A-day.

Star played against the first team defense during the A day game if I am not mistaken.

"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken

by Bens4vcobra on Jul 31, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Would agree.

In a way this really is McElroy’s team. And, I have no confidence in Star. He has Pennington written all over him. AJ is a total unknown, and throw him in if GMac goes down could ruin a career.

Star will be the guy if GMac gets hurt and that could lead to 8-4 or worse.

I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.

by 5026 on Jul 31, 2009 11:07 AM CDT reply actions  

Cody is the key to CNS's successful 3-4 defense

Take him out and our run defense loses it’s dominance.
While I respect what McElroy has done thus far (connecting with Maze, leadership, etc.), I cannot agree that he is the most important piece to it.
Jackson and Darrah would step up if the unfortunate happened. A.J. is very much an unknown. They might night be as productive as Greg and we might lose more often if a game turns into a shootout, but I don’t believe that we have more depth at nose tackle than we have at quarterback.
[No offense meant to Josh Chapman or the other defensive linemen]
And I believe that hampering most other team’s offensive production is more important than our QB’s role with all the weapons we have throught the rest of our offense.

by crimson37 on Jul 31, 2009 11:34 AM CDT reply actions  

Josh Chapman is

a very good player and I thought he filled in nicely whenever Cody was either hurt or needed a breather last year. I think Cody is very important and makes our defense very strong, but if we lose our QB, I think our offense is in more trouble than our defense would be without Cody.

by jsholt969 on Jul 31, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also, at least last year

Chapman was the nose of choice for passing downs. Cody can clog the middle like none other, but he wasn’t/(isn’t?) quite mobile enough to be as effective on passing downs. Both guys bring strengths to the table, and were one to go down, you’re right – it won’t hurt nearly as badly as losing the QB. One aside, though, is if one of the nose guards goes down, who will play backup in that position? I’m not familiar with the depth chart that deep, but that might be problematic.

I bleed crimson and white...I puke Vol puke orange. RTR

by SugarBowl93 on Jul 31, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chapman has been more widely used during passing down.

And I believe that Cody has trimmed down further in order to be both a four quarter player and contribute in passing situations.
At this stage of his developemnt, while Chapman has been a capable backup does he have what it takes to start and who will back him up throughout a game to give him a breather?
I continue to see this as a bigger hole than QB.

by crimson37 on Jul 31, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I disagree.

The only problem it creates is that our linebackers might have to work a little harder. They might be a bit more successful on the run, but our defense should still be pretty solid. Especially with all the d-linemen we’ve recruited the last year or two.

But with QB, if we lose McElroy, who proved they could be an adequate replacement for him in the spring? Nobody really did. All defenses then have to do is force us to throw the ball all the time, and if our backup can’t deliver, we’re sunk more than likely.

by jsholt969 on Jul 31, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

watch the 2nd half of the ol miss game again

losing cody, and having only chapman, hurt us pretty bad. ol miss ran down our throats for 30 minutes when we had just one NT.

welcome to the SEC kiffykins...

by tempebamafan on Jul 31, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

but how would we have done...

without JPW or GMac in that game? We still won without Cody. Sure it was closer than I’d like, but would we have even won with our QB out of that game? Plus, Chapman has a year under his belt and will be even more improved than last year most likely.

by jsholt969 on Jul 31, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

we had 1 QB and 2 NT's for the first half and kicked tail

and we had 1 QB and 1 NT int eh second half and got outscored big time and had to hang on for dear life.

but yeah i agree GMAC’s health is key to our success this year, i just think terrance cody should be on the list as well. unless there’s yet another forthcoming list of “players whom we know are going to step up”, and we have the all the dudes below Cody on it. then i’d say he’s expendable.

welcome to the SEC kiffykins...

by tempebamafan on Aug 2, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

We had to hang on for dear life...

…because of the momentum swings of the injury, the special teams failure to pick up the fake field goal, and the offense’s total systems failure.

Cody’s not expendable, but I trust his backup, and his backup, more than the guys behind GMac to get the job done.

Of course, I’m hoping all this remains purely hypothetical.

by NiceLittleSaturday on Aug 2, 2009 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

indeed

i hope none of the theories we’ve all posited in these threads get a chance to be tested.

welcome to the SEC kiffykins...

by tempebamafan on Aug 3, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree on McElroy at no. 1 can't lose spot.

And its because the backups looked so lost in the ADay game.

But what is amazing is that QB is about the only position where I fear the season would tank if we lost the starter. Even at LB (McClain), (OT), I sense we have at least serviceable players now and potentially out right studs (Fluker, Nico Johnson) to step in. We would lose a lot with Julio being out admittedly but thats because he is possibly the best receiver in college football — not because we don’t have some decent backups. The depth we have is amazing. This is unlike the probation riddled rosters of the Shula years where losing one player (an OL, Prothro) could tank the season. But, unless McCarron really develops quickly, I could see us losing 4-5 games if McElroy went down. But that is the case with most teams these days.

by wey on Jul 31, 2009 12:01 PM CDT reply actions  

I

can’t wait till we aren’t nervous about the QB position before the season.

"First, there are winners and know they are winners. Then there are the losers who know they are losers. Then there are those who are not winners but don’t know it. They’re the ones for me. They never quit trying. They’re the soul of our game."– Paul "Bear" Bryant

by bammer on Jul 31, 2009 12:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Chris Jackson?

Why didn’t he crack the top five? I CANNOT watch a Bama game next year without his wild dancing prior to every kickoff. He brings the swagga to ST

by jmappelbaum on Jul 31, 2009 1:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Don't count out Star...

Obviously as a quarterback he has a ways to go, but Saban and company knew that all along. He has impressive physical tools, to be sure, but he needed a lot of development when we signed him in 2008. He’s still a couple of years away from being where we need him, but I see no reason to think he cannot make it. Don’t underestimate how much progress can be made in a short period of time… just last year, McElroy himself had the worst Spring I’ve ever seen any quarterback have anywhere, and a year later he’s locked up the starting job with his good performance.

If Jackson doesn’t play in the future, I think it will have more to do with the quality of competition around him — i.e. McCarron and Sims — than it will with any shortcomings on his part.

by outsidethesidelines on Jul 31, 2009 2:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Just curious...

If the talent around him for the QB spot becomes superior… could we use Star in another spot considering his athleticism?

by GSCRocks on Jul 31, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eh...

… I honestly doubt it. I’ve thought about that before, and I’m just not sure that Jackson has the elite kind of athleticism needed to play another position (and by saying that, I mean either starting or seeing meaningful playing time) under Saban.

I know some Auburn fans have had this discussion about Kodi Burns with his struggles the past couple of years . Their basic conclusion — and that of a couple of the recruiting “experts” as well — was that while he’s a good athlete who can make plays with his feet at the quarterback position, he’s probably not the high-end athlete needed to play one of the other skill positions at a high level. I kind of think Jackson probably falls into that same mold. There’s a big difference in between being a top-end athlete, and a mobile kid who can make plays with his feet from the quarterback position.

And I’ll also point out that with Saban, it’s going to take a fine player to get any meaningful playing time anywhere in a couple of years, so I just do not see it. I imagine that Star would be a career back-up at another position, which obviously doesn’t change anything from his situation if he turns out to be unable to win the starting job in a couple of years. Bottom line, despite his athleticism, I see Star as being a quarterback-only player.

by outsidethesidelines on Jul 31, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have every faith...

….that Jackson will be battling McCarron for #2 next year and probably starting in 2011, but right now I’d trust Darrah to not do something stupid under pressure more than I would Star, even if it’s just tuck it and take the sack instead of trying to scramble or throw up a pick

by Todd on Jul 31, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

He’s still a couple of years away from being where we need him

Crap…did he redshirt last year? I never saw him play a snap, so i guess he did…but that said..he better hurry his butt up. GMac has two years left, leaving Star only 2 (unless he’s able to unseat a returning senior)..add to that the other highly touted QB’s coming in….Time isn’t exactly on his side…

"First, there are winners and know they are winners. Then there are the losers who know they are losers. Then there are those who are not winners but don’t know it. They’re the ones for me. They never quit trying. They’re the soul of our game."– Paul "Bear" Bryant

by bammer on Jul 31, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes...

Yes, Jackson redshirted last year. He dressed for just about every game — including some of the road conference games, where the traveling roster is fairly limited (and from that I assume he was likely the emergency #3 QB) — but never actually played a snap. He will be a redshirt freshman this season.

At any rate, you are right, time is not on his side in some ways. As long as McElroy can stay healthy and not flop, the earliest Jackson will take over the job is as a redshirt junior. Bottom line, it’s not going to be easy one way or the other. Again, barring bad news from McElroy, he really only has two years potential as a starter, and he’s going to have to fend off two other damn good QB prospects then. Keep in mind that McCarron will be entering his third year then as well, and in many ways Sims will be doing the same because he is enrolling early and will be on campus by late December. It’s a tough road.

On the other hand, though, Jackson pretty much faces the same situation as the rest of the team does. With as much raw talent as Saban has brought in and continues to bring in, any one particular player is going to hard-pressed to legitimately win out a particular position.

by outsidethesidelines on Jul 31, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

all that

is music to my ears..

"First, there are winners and know they are winners. Then there are the losers who know they are losers. Then there are those who are not winners but don’t know it. They’re the ones for me. They never quit trying. They’re the soul of our game."– Paul "Bear" Bryant

by bammer on Jul 31, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Amen to that...

If McCarron is half as good as folks say he is, sounds like Star might spend the rest of his career keeping the bench warm for everyone else.

by GSCRocks on Jul 31, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good list...

…Senor Todd. I agree with the top three. My only change (as I said when you started this ride) would be to bump Woodall back to #5 and insert Javy at #4 for his double duty. Plus, I’m not convinced Carpenter will be the starter at LT. CNS describing him as ‘serviceable’ does not overwhelm me with comfort. As important as the position is, I think the man for the job needs to be a bad mutha-Fluker.

by NiceLittleSaturday on Jul 31, 2009 3:28 PM CDT reply actions  

So your #1

player that needs to step up in ’09 will also be McElroy right?

"First, there are winners and know they are winners. Then there are the losers who know they are losers. Then there are those who are not winners but don’t know it. They’re the ones for me. They never quit trying. They’re the soul of our game."– Paul "Bear" Bryant

by bammer on Jul 31, 2009 4:53 PM CDT reply actions  

That's my thought as well.

I contend that Cody is one of the most proven and needed, while McElroy would be one of the most needed to become proven (along with James Carpenter).

by crimson37 on Jul 31, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

but as the

starting QB, he can and is both…

"First, there are winners and know they are winners. Then there are the losers who know they are losers. Then there are those who are not winners but don’t know it. They’re the ones for me. They never quit trying. They’re the soul of our game."– Paul "Bear" Bryant

by bammer on Jul 31, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let me take a quick guess.

Top 5 players that need to step up in 2009:
1. Kareem Jackson
2. Marquis Johnson
3. Kareem Jackson
4. Marquis Johnson
5. Marquis Johnson

36-0

by Bamabrave4 on Aug 1, 2009 1:50 AM CDT reply actions  

what we need

is a D-lineman to step up and put some damn pressure on the QB….

"First, there are winners and know they are winners. Then there are the losers who know they are losers. Then there are those who are not winners but don’t know it. They’re the ones for me. They never quit trying. They’re the soul of our game."– Paul "Bear" Bryant

by bammer on Aug 1, 2009 7:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

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