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Florida's Urban Meyer is the proud papa of a brand new bouncing baby contract worth an estimated at $4 million per year and good through 2014. Coach Saban is slated to rake in approximately $3.9 million this season and USC's Pete Carroll is still on target to be the highest paid head coach in college football for 2009 with his estimated $4.4 million salary.

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Heard an interesting take on coaches salaries on the radio this afternoon.

The idea that someone is contractually obligated to be the highest paid coach can present a problem if two or more people have their contracts written that way. How does the contract ever get fulfilled if two people have agreements to be paid more than the other?

by Alan Jones on Aug 3, 2009 1:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The second one would likely be ruled unenforceable for being impossible to accomplish.

by PeteHoliday on Aug 4, 2009 1:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i wonder

what the buy out is on this cute little bundle of joy…

Scoring against Alabama will be like birthing a child: rare, painful, and messy

by bammer on Aug 3, 2009 2:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I heard $500,000/year remaining ESPN...

But what will life for Florida be like after Tebow…bow..bow…bow. (echo effect, such a ledgend) Ha ha.

Not on CBS again !!

by skycaster on Aug 6, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe...

…for $4 mil, he can replace that hideous orange and blue jacket he’s sporting….

by NiceLittleSaturday on Aug 3, 2009 2:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Notre Dame will offer him $6+ million to come to South Bend...

I would be extremely surprised if he has a buyout in his contract (if he does, he needs to fire his agent). The deal may happen sooner than the BCS NC game only if Florida is not playing in it. He will be the next coach of the Fighting Irish.

by theotherend on Aug 3, 2009 3:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I just don't get that meme...

….why on earth would anyone leave Florida for NOTRE DAME? He has everything he needs or could want to be immensely successful at UF for the rest of his career, where as ND is a huge rebuilding project. I just don’t see it happening.

by Todd on Aug 3, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I

guess it depends on what his aspirations are. Sure he could stay at UF and easily win 10 games a year for life. Or he could resurrect one of the most storied programs in all of sports, not just college football, and go down as an all time great on a different level than if he had just stayed at UF. Some coaches are drawn to projects. Saban seems to be one of those, maybe Meyer is too. UF wasn’t a project, he had talent there already and it’s not like they were coming off of probation or anything. He won at Utah, now he’s winning big at Florida. Turn Notre Dame around after 20+ years of irrelevancy? He’ll go down as an all time great.

"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken

by Bens4vcobra on Aug 4, 2009 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he coaches...

…long enough at UF, he’ll still prolly be regarded that way. I mean, look at Bobby Bowden.

by NiceLittleSaturday on Aug 4, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I

guess it goes back to his aspirations. Does he want to be a Bowden/Paterno type of guy? Or does he want to be known as the guy who could win anywhere? We’ll just have to wait and see.

"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken

by Bens4vcobra on Aug 4, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is charlie weiss's last year as head coach for ND if you ask me

if they’ll be able to get meyer is another story… i think it’ll be interesting in late november when ND is coachless and Fla and Bama are both 12-0. all the barners will be screamin that CNS is gonna leave, and all the dawg fans will be saying it’s meyer. i’m not sure what losing the SECCG will do to meyer’s ego, that right there might be enough to get him to stay, or posible tip him over the edge to know it’s time to leave… will be interesting.

ND is going to lose at stanford and weiss will resign shortly thereafter. book it.

welcome to the SEC kiffykins...

by tempebamafan on Aug 3, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think you

underestimate the lure of Florida and the SEC. ND has too many obstacles to overcome. i.e. getting top notch players to qualify academically.

If he had wanted to go to ND, he’d be there already…same for Les Miles and Michigan. There is a reason they aren’t at what people call their “dream jobs”…

Scoring against Alabama will be like birthing a child: rare, painful, and messy

by bammer on Aug 3, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree

that florida is the most desirable job in the country or second only to USC. the coaches dont have to worry about living up to Bear Bryant’s legacy, and htye get access to the best recruits facilities and top notch everything else.

i think meyer has a huge ego though form what i’ve read and heard about him, so i dont doubt that he wants to assert himself as the best coach since the Bear. if he loses to CNS this year, and then contiues to play second fiddle, he wont be able to accomplish that gaol. if he goes to ND and wins a few more national titles, then he’d have a good argument for it… does he think he can overcome some of the hurdles other coaches couldnt? probably. will he be willing to start over again at another school and leave his legacy at florida only half fulfilled? i dont know, but if he is, then it’s because he thinks he can equal the success he’s had at FLA, at ND as well.

i dont have a strong opinion either way as to what he’ll do at the end of the year. but i do firmly believe weiss sucks and that ND will win 7 games max this year, and that they’ll lose at stanford and that will be the final nail in weiss’ coffin.

i think the drama surrounding the ND job and the SEC title game could be pretty damn epic, and i think it could provide a nice distraction for FLA as well. and i think if meyer goes 12-0 then loses to us, it’ll really make things interesting, as ND should know by then who the best coach in the country really is. (hint, our guy, who will coach here til he retires IMO)

welcome to the SEC kiffykins...

by tempebamafan on Aug 3, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you are also

suggesting that ND won’t be improved this year…

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/teams/schedule?teamId=87

With that schedule, if he doesn’t go at least 9-3 you might be right but i don’t see anymore that 2-3 loses…

Scoring against Alabama will be like birthing a child: rare, painful, and messy

by bammer on Aug 3, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

steele

said our schedule was too tough to overcome last season too.

welcome to the SEC kiffykins...

by tempebamafan on Aug 3, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm simply saying other folks have noticed the point bammer is making.

whether you believe it is valid or not is entirely up to you.

by kleph on Aug 3, 2009 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not

to mention the schedule but their O-line is coming in as the only on in the country with 100 combined starts. That usually correlates with success.

"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken

by Bens4vcobra on Aug 4, 2009 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

exaclty..

as much as it pains me to say it, ND should be pretty good this year. Well i don’t know about good but they will be improved. Don’t be shocked if they grab the at large bid.

Scoring against Alabama will be like birthing a child: rare, painful, and messy

by bammer on Aug 4, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry...

…but I will

be shocked if they grab the at large bid.

by NiceLittleSaturday on Aug 4, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

With the

mid majors getting the push of late, i don’t see it happening but ND’s schedule is weak…so that plays in their favor.

Scoring against Alabama will be like birthing a child: rare, painful, and messy

by bammer on Aug 4, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But their...

…weak schedule is what should keep them out.

by NiceLittleSaturday on Aug 4, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If

they win 10 games, and roll those weak teams, I can see them getting an at large.

"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken

by Bens4vcobra on Aug 4, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

totally agree

but Ben is right…

Scoring against Alabama will be like birthing a child: rare, painful, and messy

by bammer on Aug 4, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As a

matter of fact, its similar to 2006 when they won 10 games and got an at large to the Sugar Bowl:

Georgia Tech Atlanta, GA ABC W 14-10

  1. Penn State W 41-17
  2. Michigan #3 Notre Dame • L 47-21
    Michigan State #13 W 40-37
    Purdue #14 W 35-21
    Stanford W 31-10
    UCLA #8 W 20-17
    Navy W 38-14
    North Carolina W 45-26
    Air Force # W 39-17
    Army W 41-9
  3. USC L 44-24
  4. LSU (Sugar Bowl) L 41-14

"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken

by Bens4vcobra on Aug 4, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

michigan state

michigan, purdue, BC, USC, Pitt, Uconn, and Stanford all look to be tough, hard fought, close games.

hell even Nevada has a shot to beat them in my opinion.

welcome to the SEC kiffykins...

by tempebamafan on Aug 3, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Still with the ND thing?

Corch Urban Meyers is not leaving UF to coach the Irish. It is a myth kept alive by fans of other SEC teams and coaches trying to use it as a recruiting tool. Meyer has won 2 National Titles in 4 years at UF and will have his best team to date this coming season (even without Percy Harvey). If he continues to win his share of SEC titles and then another national title or two, why would he have to bring ND back to prominence to be considered amongst the greatest coaches of all time??? the legacy he is chasing is not that of Bear Bryant, it is that of Steve Spurrier. After only 4 years, I believe he has at least caught him, if not pulled slightly ahead of him.

I think as long as Meyer wins at UF and is able to bring in top recruits – he’ll remain happy and South Bend will quietly fade off into the distance.

As for Saban – in only 2 years at Alabama, he has returned the team to powerhouse caliber and continues to sign top recruiting classses. There are at least 5 SEC programs more attractive than ND (UT, UGA, LSU are the others in my opinion). If the Bama/Gator classic returns this December, I don’t believe ND will be on anyone’s mind….

Go Gator.

by skigator93 on Aug 4, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vanderbilt...

…is more attractive than ND.

by NiceLittleSaturday on Aug 4, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well said..

I don’t think the “myth” is conjured up by SEC fans…its fed to them by the media..I have no idea why the media won’t let it go. And like i said, there is a reason he didn’t go to ND after Utah and there is a reason why Les didn’t leave LSU for UM…its because the SEC is the shit…plain and simple.

Scoring against Alabama will be like birthing a child: rare, painful, and messy

by bammer on Aug 4, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dont know....

….I have a few ND fans that are running around keeping that rumor alive as well.

by akbrown15 on Aug 4, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

After only 4 years, I believe he has at least caught him, if not pulled slightly ahead of him.

TOTALLY disagree with you here. Spurrier had to deal with FSU and Miami and their peak. Not to mention Fulmer and UT during the Manning days. What has Meyer had to deal with? The only Meyer will have to deal with going forward is a potentially potent Alabama with Saban at the helm.

"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken

by Bens4vcobra on Aug 4, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Spurrier

Only had to face Miami once in 12 years, so that really doesn’t count. Spurrier also faced a down UGA program led by Ray Goof and Jim Donnan. LSU has been stronger since Meyer took over, and teams like Kentucky, South Carolina and Vanderbilt can actually beat you now if you aren’t ready to play. They were cupcakes during the Spurrier years.

The teams have changed, but it is still just as difficult as ever to win a championship.

It all runs in cycles.

by skigator93 on Aug 4, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only had to face Miami once in 12 years, so that really doesn’t count.

It does count when you factor in recruiting.

Spurrier also faced a down UGA program led by Ray Goof and Jim Donnan.

A down UGA doth not a down conference make. You still gloss over the fact that UT was at their peak, ever hear of that Manning guy? Also don’t forget other teams like Alabama (1992, 1999) and Auburn who were a thorn in Spurrier’s side (1994, 2001).

teams like Kentucky, South Carolina and Vanderbilt. They were cupcakes during the Spurrier years.

No they are still cupcakes. They can only beat you if you’re Auburn.

"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken

by Bens4vcobra on Aug 4, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

On Miami…..Miami and FSU are still top recruiting teams, so if your angle is the difficulty of recruiting in-state, Meyer doesn’t have it any easier than Spurrier did.

So UT was good and UGA was down and now they have switched. LSU is better now than they were during the Spurrier years, same with Ole Miss. I think the state of the conference is just fine.

Spurrier was 6-3 against some really good Bama teams. He was 10-3 against Auburn.

by skigator93 on Aug 4, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

On Miami…..Miami and FSU are still top recruiting teams, so if your angle is the difficulty of recruiting in-state, Meyer doesn’t have it any easier than Spurrier did.

Totally disagree with you here but thats ok. I think you’re downplaying the FSU/Miami factor because you know it supports my argument.

Spurrier was 6-3 against some really good Bama teams. He was 10-3 against Auburn.

I’m not looking at overall records. Look at the games where Spurrier lost:

1994 – UF ranked #2 and undefeated
1999 – 1st meeting in swamp – UF was ranked #1
2001 – UF was ranked #2 and undefeated

The point is, UF got robbed of NC runs those years because of those losses. Even if UGA and UT cancel each other out (and I don’t think they do… again remember that Manning guy?) Spurrier still had a tougher road to hoe.

"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken

by Bens4vcobra on Aug 4, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not downplaying FSU & Miami

Just Miami. We simply didn’t play Miami so to say Spurrier had it tougher because Miami was great then makes no sense because he didn’t have to face them anyway. The recruiting angle doesn’t make sense either because Miami recruits just as well now as they did then.

FSU I give you – Spurrier couldn’t beat Bowden. We couldn’t beat FSU in ‘94 (choke at Doak) and ’99, so the other losses didn’t really cost us title shots since the FSU game is always last. We all know what happens when you lose late. In ’01 we lost our last game against Tennessee which was postponed after 9/11, so the terrorists really cost us that year.

Manning was 0 for Florida in his career. 4 losses.

If Meyer were to win another title this season, would you be convinced?

by skigator93 on Aug 4, 2009 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Meyer were to win another title this season, would you be convinced?

Convinced of what? That Meyer is better than Spurrier? Maybe. But that Meyer has it just as tough as Spurrier did? Probably not.

"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken

by Bens4vcobra on Aug 5, 2009 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, that he will have surpassed Spurrier

Plus, you’d have to think that UT and Auburn will be back. They have too good a history to stay down for too long.

by skigator93 on Aug 5, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Umm...

…really? Have you seen their new head coaches?

by NiceLittleSaturday on Aug 5, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I haven't seen either coach a game

But sometimes you need a patsy to bring in the next legend. See Ron Zooker.

by skigator93 on Aug 5, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

may be kept alive by media & other fans

but it was started by Corch Urban Meyer himself.

by Zoltar on Aug 5, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doesn't paying Meyer this much threaten the integrity of the sport . . .

or something like that? I can’t remember exactly what Chris Fowler, Wilbon, etc said after Saban was hired but it was something to that effect. Maybe they will repeat those criticisms now. (I won’t hold my breath.)

by wey on Aug 3, 2009 3:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not

to mention that, but it was the “ZOMG look how desparate Alabama is!!” There won’t be anyone coming out and saying how Florida is “desparate” because of how much they’re paying Meyer.

"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken

by Bens4vcobra on Aug 3, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

f-in hipocrites

one of my bosses is a OU fan and he still giving me crap for CNS supposedly being paid too much and being a liar… i’m like “your coach hasn’t won a big game in 9 years and gets paid 50% more than mine, and his QB got caught cheating/getting paid to do nothing just 3 or 4 years ago. would you please shut the hell up about overpriced coaches w/ no integrity?”

welcome to the SEC kiffykins...

by tempebamafan on Aug 3, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

SEC coaches listed in order of pay

the clarion ledger answered the obvious question and listed the 2009 pay rate of every SEC coach in their story about urban’s raise:

  1. Florida’s Urban Meyer ($4 million)
  2. Alabama’s Nick Saban ($3.9 million)
  3. LSU’s Les Miles ($3.8 million)
  4. Arkansas’ Bobby Petrino ($2.9 million)
  5. Georgia’s Mark Richt ($2.8 million)
  6. Ole Miss’s Huston Nutt ($2.5 million)
  7. Tennessee’s Lane Kiffin ($2 million)
  8. Auburn’s Gene Chizik ($2 million)
  9. South Carolina’s Steve Spurrier ($1.8 million)
  10. Kentucky’s Rich Brooks ($1.25 million)
  11. Mississippi State’s Dan Mullen ($1.2 million)
  12. Vanderbilt’s Bobby Johnson ($1.1 million)

by kleph on Aug 4, 2009 6:26 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So

essentially there are the guys who have won NC’s and then the ones who haven’t. Spurrier being the only exception. Sounds about right to me.

"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken

by Bens4vcobra on Aug 4, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought the Asshat...

…was supposed to be making more than Coach Saban after their NC. It was in his contract to be the highest paid coach and LSU paid him like $1,000 more which looked more than stupid.

You had me at "ROLL TIDE"!!!

by bamavicki on Aug 4, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's crazy that...

…Steve Sarkisian is only $50K behind Steve Spurrier.

by Nico2.0 on Aug 4, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL!!!

I forgot how much Auburn offered Chizik…

Scoring against Alabama will be like birthing a child: rare, painful, and messy

by bammer on Aug 4, 2009 7:47 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Chizik and Kiffin...

…make more than Spurrier (head asplodes).

by NiceLittleSaturday on Aug 4, 2009 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope that Meyer stays.....

I want to see what he can do without superman. I know that superman was not the starter during the 1st NC, Leak was. But, he has been there the whole time. So, how will Urban do without Tebow?

There are 3 kinds of men. The ones who learn by reading. The few who learn by observation. And the rest have to pee on the electric fence to find out for themselves. Will Rogers

by jtCRIMSON on Aug 5, 2009 12:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That is not as a big a question

They all talk about how well he has been able to reload. Even with a light recruiting class last year, the quality of signees was top-notch.
I think a true measure of a coach is in the long-term navigation of the varieties of talent and personalities that one has to deal with in players and staff.
So far I think he has been phenomenal.
He and his staff adapted their offensive to better utilize Leak when he was incapable of fulfilling the dual-threat role that Meyer’s QBs were supposed to possess (like Alex Smith did and Tebow does). I also think that the UF staff has demonstrated that they could evolve with their QB as Tebow’s game has advanced from year to year.
This next year should be no exception. They’re tinking (i.e. Loeffler) with their previous “perfection” by giving Tebow the “opportunity” to be a drop back passer. It is great to see that they are not content with where they are and are constantly changing things to remain on the top.
It is indeed going to be an interesting year!

by crimson37 on Aug 5, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It it a question mark of some sort

He will likely find another Alex Smith type. Tebow is just custom made to run the spread and he is really good with the decision-making in that system – especially in the option play.

I don’t think that the Gators did a very good job adapting for Chris Leak when he was our QB. We still ran the spread and it was terrible. Other than the BCS title game against Ohio State, our offense looked bad at times and completely helpless at other times. It was our defense that carried us that year.

It might be better now that Mullen is gone, but time will tell in 2010, as Brantley is a lot more like Leak than Tebow.

by skigator93 on Aug 5, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought...

…Leak’s best game was in Tuscaloosa in 2005. But that’s just me.

by NiceLittleSaturday on Aug 5, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Scoring against Alabama will be like birthing a child: rare, painful, and messy

by bammer on Aug 5, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It took the Gators a while to figure out...

…what to do with Leak. Maybe there was a lot of infighting, but they eventually put Chris in situations where he could shine. Running the ball was not the place for him. Meyer wanted him to be a running threat and he couldn’t do it. I admit all of that. And I admit that it wasn’t an easy or quick development.
What I also contend is that Meyer/Mullen adapted their gameplan to Leak’s abilities. This included splitting time with Tebow, once he’d arrived. But Leak was still became successful with his skillset.
This doesn’t take anything away from the accomplishments of the Gator Defense. They still carried the season.
But don’t say that Mullen was a complete disaster. The scoreboard was not run up entirely of defensive scoring.

by crimson37 on Aug 5, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Defense

Florida allowed 189 points in 2006….that’s 11 less than Alabama allowed last season. Yall’s defense was stout last year. The offense looked sick at times, including FSU and S. Carolina which were both late in the season. In our only loss that year to Auburn, the offense and punt team gave up 19 of the 27 points.

by skigator93 on Aug 5, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Leak couldn’t run except for that 40+ yarder he ripped off against Bama in 2006 to put a nail in our coffin.

by monjardin on Aug 5, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Prince Hall

had a fumble return for a TD early in that game to put us up 7-0. I thought to myself “oh yeah, that guy is gonna be good over the next couple years.”

"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken

by Bens4vcobra on Aug 6, 2009 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Voice of Reason concludes.....

Rudy could not afford out of state tuition to come to the University of Alabama so he settled for the Irish

Jealousy is the thread that holds TET threads together!

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