The Crimson Tide and Canton

and for the record...

derrion is a three-star recruit out of blue springs high school in missouri. a senior this year, news reports about his play suggest that while he may not have his father’s overwhelming physical gifts, he’s certainly possessing some of his dad’s ability to lead a defense.

by kleph on Aug 8, 2009 10:19 PM CDT reply actions

and also for the record...

here is how the rest of the SEC shakes out:

Alabama (7) John Hannah, Don Hutson, Joe Namath, Ozzie Newsome, Bart Starr, Dwight Stephenson, Derrick Thomas

LSU (3) Jim Taylor, Y.A. Tittle, Steve Van Buren

Arkansas (2) Lance Alworth, Dan Hampton
Georgia (2) Fran Tarkenton, Charley Trippi
Mississippi (2) Frank (Bruiser) Kinard, Gene Hickerson
Tennessee (2) Doug Atkins, Reggie White

Auburn (1) Frank Gatski
Florida (1) Jack Youngblood
Kentucky (1) George Blanda

Mississippi St. (0)
South Carolina (0)
Vanderbilt (0)

by kleph on Aug 8, 2009 10:33 PM CDT reply actions

This is great...

I’m glad to see DT finally in the Hall of Fame, and had it not been for his untimely death, he would have probably been a first ballot guy. At the very least, I think we can safely say that Thomas is the most dominating defensive player Alabama has had in the post-Bryant era.

And it’s also great to see us have seven players in the Hall of Fame now. Unfortunately, however, Thomas is likely to be the last Alabama player in there for a very long time. Unless Chris Samuels can really have a long, extended finish to his career playing at a high level, he’s probably going to be close but no cigar. Shaun has no chance, and honestly neither does Stabler, Bennett, and others. I hate to say it, but these last 10 years of shittiness from ’Bama football has permeated into the NFL, and that will take away our HOF candidates for a while.

by outsidethesidelines on Aug 8, 2009 11:14 PM CDT reply actions

The Snake http://3hmm.com/thesun/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/052209-spt-stabler-pix-011.jpg

My favorite!

If it wasn’t for his penchant for women and whiskey. . . . .? Well, there’s that and. . . .he couldn’t repeat his Raider magic in an Oiler or Saints uniform. But on his resume` at Oakland alone, he deserves the Hall. Plunkett is an all-time Raider too, but when the two met in that AFC Championship game? Plunkett won out and. . . . the rest is, literally- “history”, for Stabler. Man oh man. . . .what could have been? That Oiler team WAS BADASS, paper! Still, they had Earl Campbell, Billy “White Shoes” Johnson, R. Brazile- sheesh. The Snake (all-’70’s Decade Team QB w/Bradshaw and Staubach) DESERVES to be in the Hall. He does.

Comer4tide to Nico2.0: "How come I've never heard of any of your random songs?"
Todd to Comer: "Because if you had, he wouldn't listen to it. BOOM. Roasted."
Nico to Todd: "Shouldn't you be off voguing somewhere?"

by BixBeiderbecke on Aug 9, 2009 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions

Seconded

I just love the Raiders just about as much as the Tide,…..just about as much.

Got a dip in my stride, cuz you fear the tide.

by MobileBayCityRoller on Aug 9, 2009 2:40 AM CDT up reply actions

Hey MBCR- are you thinking what I'm thinking?

WHAT’S WRONG WITH WOMEN AND WHISKEY? (that should have made him A FIRST TIME BALLOT inductee! i mean. . . f_ck the what?)

Comer4tide to Nico2.0: "How come I've never heard of any of your random songs?"
Todd to Comer: "Because if you had, he wouldn't listen to it. BOOM. Roasted."
Nico to Todd: "Shouldn't you be off voguing somewhere?"

by BixBeiderbecke on Aug 9, 2009 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions

I have a feeling . . .

Snake is going to get in — especially now that he is back in NFL circles. Could be wrong.

Shaun was on track — stats wise — to be eligible if he could have put together a couple more thousand yard seasons. And he had an MVP. It is not to be unfortunately. (People criticized his running style also so that might have been a problem).

Don’t count out DeMeco. He will likely have the stats and is going to be so well-liked that he could have a real shot in about 10 days. Agree, Chris is the only other possibility out there and its a real long shot.

by wey on Aug 9, 2009 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions

Well...

Stabler may get there, but I imagine he’s going to have to kiss a lot of ass before he does. And, frankly, his continued off-field legal troubles do not help his cause. And you are right that Shaun was on pace to get there, but he was going to need to continue his performance for another three or four years after the MVP season, and with the huge drop-off he had, it’s just not going to happen. I mean he pretty much went from MVP to out of football in all of about two years.

And you are right on Demeco, he has a shot. On the other hand, to get there he’s going to need another 10+ years of good play, and then he’ll have to wait at least five more years. Do the math, you’re talking probably 20+ years before he gets in, and he is clearly our best chance now among the young players.

by outsidethesidelines on Aug 9, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions

Its amazing that

basically one game made Namaths career…without that win, there is no way he gets in.

Scoring against Alabama will be like birthing a child: rare, painful, and messy

by bammer on Aug 9, 2009 8:02 AM CDT reply actions

Well, but what a game that was . . .

But that is overstating it.

Football is not as purely about stats as baseball is. Namath was by acclimation the best QB in the league for several years and won the season MVP. He was also considered possibly the best pure passer ever seen in the game. There was also a sense that his career was cut far short due to his knee injuries. (This was not a Bo Jackson situation who had a few great highlight plays but injury kept him from having more than a cup of coffee in the league.) Namath was the most high profile player in the league for about a decade. How could you keep a guy like that out?

by wey on Aug 9, 2009 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions

Exactly

its called the Hall of Fame, not the hall of stats. Stats are a major factor but they don’t have to be the only factor.

"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken

by Bens4vcobra on Aug 11, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions

The Hall of Stats...

…is that still in Bidgood?

by NiceLittleSaturday on Aug 11, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions

Am I the only one that thought LeeRoy Jordan was in the HOF?

….man, I was wrong….

by akbrown15 on Aug 10, 2009 10:07 AM CDT reply actions

"Killer's" NOT IN?

That’s as bad as the Stabler travesty! Prolly worse. Unbef_ckinglievable. (3-time World Champ, too!)

He has to be one of the Cowboys’ best linebackers in their history!!!!!

Comer4tide to Nico2.0: "How come I've never heard of any of your random songs?"
Todd to Comer: "Because if you had, he wouldn't listen to it. BOOM. Roasted."
Nico to Todd: "Shouldn't you be off voguing somewhere?"

by BixBeiderbecke on Aug 11, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions

Just Wiki-ed him

He holds the Cowboys all-time record for tackles (743) and here’s the blurb from Wiki,

“In his 14 NFL seasons, Jordan intercepted 32 passes (tied for third-most all-time by linebackers), returning them for 472 yards and three touchdowns. He also recovered 18 fumbles, returning them for 37 yards.

More than 25 years after his retirement, Jordan still holds Cowboys records for career solo tackles with 743, is second in career assisted tackles with 493 and, of course, holds the career combined tackles record with 1,236. Jordan still holds the third and fourth highest totals of solo tackles in a single season with 100 in 1975 and 97 in 1968."

Talk about “laying the lumber”???? Apparently, he “heads the Lee Roy Jordan Lumber Company, headquartered in Dallas, Texas.” (oh, how apropos!)

Comer4tide to Nico2.0: "How come I've never heard of any of your random songs?"
Todd to Comer: "Because if you had, he wouldn't listen to it. BOOM. Roasted."
Nico to Todd: "Shouldn't you be off voguing somewhere?"

by BixBeiderbecke on Aug 11, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions

Does anyone know how long a player can be on the ballot?

…given they do not get voted in….

by akbrown15 on Aug 11, 2009 10:50 AM CDT reply actions

I'm pretty sure...

… it’s 15 years, and then the induction can only come from the veteran’s committee.

by outsidethesidelines on Aug 11, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions

The veterans...

…need to get off their artificial bums and vote in Lee Roy.

I would also vote in Cornelius Bennett. There are other members with comparable resumes (Sam Huff, for instance). I still can’t believe Ray Perkins snubbed him for Vinny Testaverde his first year with Tampa Bay. To be fair, he didn’t really have a QB waiting for him…only a couple of guys named Steve Young and Steve Deberg. Silly Ray Perkins.

by NiceLittleSaturday on Aug 11, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions

i can.

perkins was and is a grade a asshat.

by kleph on Aug 11, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions

Yes...

…I’ve noticed your admiration for him before.

by NiceLittleSaturday on Aug 11, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions

don’t even get me started on the practice tower.

by kleph on Aug 11, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions

That's...

…what she said.

by NiceLittleSaturday on Aug 11, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions

It would seem someone that still hold defensive records

for the Cowboys 30-40 years later should be in the hall. Oh, and 3 championships?

by akbrown15 on Aug 11, 2009 4:11 PM CDT reply actions

Damn straight!

We’re talking the Cowboys here, and they aren’t exactly . . . Tampa Bay. You know? And an integral member of any team with 3 Super Bowl rings had to be doing A LOT OF THINGS RIGHT! Especially in THEM days! I mean, OKAY. . . .alright. . . when you’re talking about Nitchzke (sp), Butkus, Ted Hendricks, et. al- . . .that’s stuff is HoF slam dunking!

Anyone wanna tell me LeeRoy ain’t dunking?

Travesty is the only thing that comes to mind. (for gosh sake’s. . . they just put in Bob Hayes and . . . nothing against Bob Hayes, he holds at least one Cowboy record himself- but they didn’t need his playing to win championships.

They needed The Killers, though. They needed him . . . .and he produced! Hall of Fame written all over his badass self! (I’m pissed right now. Gonna shoot some pool and raise some Cain tonight. With someone!)

Comer4tide to Nico2.0: "How come I've never heard of any of your random songs?"
Todd to Comer: "Because if you had, he wouldn't listen to it. BOOM. Roasted."
Nico to Todd: "Shouldn't you be off voguing somewhere?"

by BixBeiderbecke on Aug 11, 2009 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions

Mad Stork...

…FTW.

And Lee Roy is dunking.

by NiceLittleSaturday on Aug 11, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions

Uh-huh, aight?

He dunking. (it’s what I SAID!) And. . . . . you did too!

(pool was cool tonight. pool was cool. didn’t raise too much of anything except large containers of various and diverse fermented beverages. one or two of which, may be actually called, “variously diverse” due to their cost and acquired taste. Also imbibed in an armangac, Resposados, and a few custom elixirs mixed here and there. got a “bike-ride” return trip home- from some nice girl who participated in a “Bike Mash” tonight in Venice. no raising Cain whatsoever, afterall. tranquilo, as a matter of fact. “huwwwyuwaaaaaaaa!”. . . . .i think i just hoked?!?!?!)

just kidding.

on the blowing donuts part. i’m eating leftover lasagna right now. i’m not anything but hungry, thirsty, and verbose right now!

Comer4tide to Nico2.0: "How come I've never heard of any of your random songs?"
Todd to Comer: "Because if you had, he wouldn't listen to it. BOOM. Roasted."
Nico to Todd: "Shouldn't you be off voguing somewhere?"

by BixBeiderbecke on Aug 12, 2009 3:43 AM CDT up reply actions

The Stork

The Snake
Casper
The Assassin
Lester da Molester

You name it, them Raider’s HAVE IT. . . .in spades (for nicknames)

You alright Nice Li’l, I haven’t heard Mad Stork in ages! (you got me!)

Comer4tide to Nico2.0: "How come I've never heard of any of your random songs?"
Todd to Comer: "Because if you had, he wouldn't listen to it. BOOM. Roasted."
Nico to Todd: "Shouldn't you be off voguing somewhere?"

by BixBeiderbecke on Aug 11, 2009 9:11 PM CDT reply actions

The Ghost (for Dave Casper)

forgot to put that one in.

Comer4tide to Nico2.0: "How come I've never heard of any of your random songs?"
Todd to Comer: "Because if you had, he wouldn't listen to it. BOOM. Roasted."
Nico to Todd: "Shouldn't you be off voguing somewhere?"

by BixBeiderbecke on Aug 11, 2009 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions