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I now refer you to a fanpost on Team Speed Kills that proved Emerson's assertion that "a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."

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Can someone explain what the point is of that post was? It seemed like he was comparing a 25 year run by one coach (Coach Bryant) with a 20 year run by three coaches at Florida. Even if you could cumulatively add all three together they still do not measure up to what Alabama did during that run.

Florida has three national titles and eight conference titles during that span vs. six national titles and 13 conference championships. If you can lump three coaches together to compare can Alabama add Frank Thomas and Wallace Wade too?

I do not think there is much of a doubt that since the SEC expanded Florida has been the team over the long haul, but there have been other teams as well. LSU has a good argument for SEC team of this decade with its three conference championships and two national titles.

What a terribly written article, and why was it posted at this point in the season? Shouldn’t we be analyzing pertinent things like, actual college football games. That seems to me like an off season Dennis Dodd type article. I enjoy Team Speed Kills, and I suppose everyone deserves a pass but that was completely incoherent.

by Kenny483 on Sep 24, 2009 10:07 PM CDT reply actions  

If you can lump three coaches together to compare can Alabama add Frank Thomas and Wallace Wade too?

Good point. If he did that, then there wouldn’t have been a basis to write the article.

"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken

by Bens4vcobra on Sep 25, 2009 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

actually, this is a good point in and of itself...

wallace wade and frank thomas were at least as dominant over their respective conferences as spurrier/meyer have been for the last decade in the sec.

by kleph on Sep 25, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not

to mention the historical significance of the Wade era in terms of the big picture. But thats another story.

"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken

by Bens4vcobra on Sep 25, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

again...

…i still seethe at how the importance of the thomas era is simply overlooked by everyone.

by kleph on Sep 25, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Only

thing I know is he won his ass off.

"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken

by Bens4vcobra on Sep 25, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is how I read it...

“Alabama football is the standard of success. Even with all the success we have enjoyed since 1990, we will not feel successful unless we can coble together a rationale for comparing ourselves favorably to Bama. We can only accomplish that if we limit our historical perspective to a fraction of Bama’s long and storied history”.

I thoroughly enjoyed the premise of the post, as well as the rather obvious apples and oranges error (i.e. program vs. one person).

Shorty Price Lives

by StarStarr on Sep 30, 2009 1:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

yawn

Offense sells tickets. Defense wins games. - Paul W. "Bear" Bryant

by TheRedTideConsumes on Sep 24, 2009 10:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Florida...

…was a better program than Alabama in the 90s overall, but they weren’t handicapped by NCAA probation or coaching changes…although you have to like the way we began the new SEC in 1992 and ended the decade in 1999. This decade has obviously been much worse for us and, despite the extra national title, not as consistent for UF. As CNS often notes, it’s how you finish…and I’m envisioning a nice finish for the Tide this year.

And yes, the article’s quality is poor. If you want to say that UF has been the top program since the divisions were created in 1992, fine, I’ll go along with that. Trying to compare that with Coach Bryant’s years at Bama is misguided and absurd.

by NiceLittleSaturday on Sep 24, 2009 10:31 PM CDT reply actions  

i think there is a good idea for a decent article here...

is it at all possible to compare the great teams of the sec era by era? is florida’s current dominance at all like byrant’s tenure at alabama and, say, neyland’s in tennessee before that?

personally, i believe bryant’s tide teams will emerge the standard by which the rest are judged but there are interesting questions that should emerge from such an examination. like is it even possible for another coach of bryant’s degree of dominance to emerge (i don’t believe so).

i like TSK and i think they produce some really great stuff. but i gotta question the logic behind bumping this fanpost to their front page.

by kleph on Sep 24, 2009 10:38 PM CDT reply actions  

A history professor at SoCa ........

Did an article a few years back that fostered the premise that Bama could actually lay claim to 24 National Championships if they wanted, kind of the same way that Yale claims 13(?). In the 20’s and 30’s a lot of news agencies awarded Nat Championships. Bama got their share of those, especially after going to the Rose Bowl and winning on a national stage. This prof further contended that these victories had a lot to do with how the south was perceived by the nation and therefore helped pull the South out of reconstruction. If you look at how a winning team effects enrollment at a school (and it does), This idea has a lot of validity. Bama is bigger than all the coaches that have been or will ever be there.

by ramabama on Sep 25, 2009 8:57 AM CDT reply actions  

if you can dig that up again...

i’d love to read it. if you can at least get the name of the author or the publication i can prolly do the diggin myself.

by kleph on Sep 25, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

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