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Daniel Moore wasn't available: The new Federal courthouse in Tuscaloosa expected to be completed in 2011 will feature a series of giant murals depicting the city's history including the Crimson Tide football. Artist Caleb O'Conner's studio in Toumey Hall on the UA campus will be open to the public while he completes the project.

All you have to do is win, right?: Les Miles finds himself on the hot seat after a disappointing 4-0 start to the season.

Pour a 40 for a fallen homie: Stellar Alabama blog Eight in the Box is with us no more.

"The only thing better than than playing for a national title in New Orleans on Jan. 1 is being in Tuscaloosa on Jan. 2 to celebrate winning it." Alabama's 1979 National Championship Team held their 30th reunion in Tuscaloosa over the weekend and were honored at halftime of the Arkansas game. The team topped Lou Holt's Hogs in the 1980 Sugar Bowl to remain undefeated but won the championship when Ohio State fell to Southern California in the Rose Bowl.

While we are out here at midfield: Also honored during the Arkansas game was linebacker Woodrow Lowe who set the Tide's all-time record for tackles in a single season with 134 stops in 1973.

A Sea of Blue looks on the bright side: "Alabama is scary. Just not as scary as Florida."

Rocky Top Talk Hail Mary Haiku: You are Jonathan Crompton facing the Auburn Tigers. You're behind by four at midfield. Only one second remains on the clock, and you have to heave the Hail Mary. Now, describe what happens in Haiku form. DO IT!

Please explain why the coach benched him for his entire senior season: It turns out that Keith Dunnavant's next book will be about the life of Alabama great and Pro Football Hall-of-Famer, Bart Starr. The author will speak to Montgomery Quarterback Club's meeting Tuesday night.

Just remember, Coach Bryant always said: "It don't cost nuthin' to be nice."

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Alabama is scary. Just not as scary as Florida.

Maybe that’s true, maybe it’s not. Regardless, Florida toyed with Kentucky. Despite the score, Florida looked like your average, run-of-the-mill, Top 5 team Saturday against Kentucky. If the ‘cats think they’re in for an easier week, they might end up being a little disappointed.

I'm wrong all the time.

by PeteHoliday on Sep 28, 2009 9:15 AM CDT reply actions  

Not that we need it...

…but I think I’d have that quote taped in my locker this week, just to strengthen my focus.

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Sep 28, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice example.

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Sep 28, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Les Miles finds himself on the hot seat after a disappointing 4-0 start to the season.

I guess some were expecting 5 wins after week 4?

by LSU Jonno on Sep 28, 2009 9:36 AM CDT reply actions  

Or, you know, not needing a goalline stand to beat the worst team in the SEC.

Something like that.

I'm wrong all the time.

by PeteHoliday on Sep 28, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

A win is a win...

… but in all fairness LSU has looked about as bad as possible so far this year. Their 4-0 start reminds me of a the 3-0 start we had in 2006 with Mike Shula… yes you’re winning, but you are playing poorly and only winning because of the very low quality of competition you are facing.

by outsidethesidelines on Sep 28, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

That Hawai'i game drove me insane.

How often does a team have to run a shovel pass before you start leaving a spy? Grr.

by rugman11 on Sep 28, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whoa...

…MSU did beat Vandy, who still plays in the SEC (as of this writing, anyway).

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Sep 28, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

But...

… unless they can somehow find a way to beat Middle Tennessee, also a team that will likely go 2-10. And LSU’s other conference win also came in an ugly performance over… Vanderbilt.

Two sloppy wins over two teams that probably won’t combine for six wins on the year. Pete has a valid point.

by outsidethesidelines on Sep 28, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

You should be worried.....

LSU started 4-0 last year and finished the regular season 7-5, losing to every good team they played. This year’s team certainly does not look better than last year’s.

Your response also reminds me of some Auburn fans “a win is a win” pollyanna response to the 3-2 MSU game last year.

Beating crappy teams sloppily early in the year is a precursor to a mediocre season.

by Paranormal on Sep 28, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

And in all fairness, Jonno...

… you may be right. LSU has played poorly to date, but you guys are still 4-0 and things could still come together. With Ole Miss’ struggles, if you guys beat Georgia this weekend, maybe you do finish up 11-1 or 10-2. Perhaps that is how things will shake out.

On the other hand, though, the poor play could easily continue and the losses come in bunches once quality competition comes to town. This 4-0 start could be no different than Mike Shula’s 3-0 start in 2006, Saban’s 3-0 start in 2007, or Miles’ 4-0 start in 2008 for that matter. Just as easily as I could see LSU winning 10 or 11 games, I could also see you guys losing to Georgia, Florida, ’Bama, and probably at least a game or two against Ole Miss, Auburn, and Arkansas.

And, frankly, I could see where a lot of LSU fans would be upset and nervous about how the rest of the season looks to play out. With all of the talent you guys have (or at least should have) on campus, I can easily see people expecting you guys to beat up on teams much more than you have. I don’t think that’s at all unrealistic.

Stanford beat up on Washington by three touchdowns, why did LSU need to squeak out a relatively narrow eight point victory? Hell, even Notre Dame is a 15-point favorite over them. Mississippi State beat Vanderbilt about as convincingly as LSU did, and they didn’t need a dropped pass on a first and goal that turned into a game-changing interception to do it. Why not? LSU was sleepwalking to the tune of barely 300 yards of total offense in a 31-3 win over ULL while Nebraska beat the same team 55-0 the following week with almost 450 yards of total offense, so why couldn’t LSU do the same? Auburn beat Mississippi State by 25 points, so why in the hell did two weeks later LSU need a 90+ yard improv punt return for a touchdown and two late goal line stands to squeak out a 30-26 win over the same team?

Again, I think those are very legitimate questions, and I think there are plenty of objective reasons why people would be apprehensive about LSU’s chances moving forward. At the very least, if LSU continues to play over the final two months of the season like they did in the first month, it’s probably going to be a tad bit of a disappointing season for the second year in a row.

by outsidethesidelines on Sep 28, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

And I will say one more thing about LSU...

That was a great piece by Richard, and one that took a very objective and pragmatic look at the situation. It’s probably one of the best blog pieces I have read in several weeks.

I will say this: LSU’s struggles the past year and a half, if nothing else, have dramatically increased the quality of the content coming from Louisiana and from LSU fans. Before, that entire program had just gotten so spoiled on success that the objective value of all of the “analysis” written about the program is zero. It’s all sunshine pumping… our coach is the greatest, we have a recruiting juggernaut that cannot be stopped, every replacement player will instantly be an All-American, etc., etc.

All in all, it was just nothing more than homer-based sunshine pumping. It was a complete waste of time for the writer to write it, and it was a complete waste of time to read it. And you didn’t even have to read it to understand the underlying point, which was that LSU football was the greatest thing ever and that all coaches, players, recruits, trainers, etc. that were involved in it were effectively capable of doing no wrong.

You don’t see that any more, though. The LSU writers out there have figured out the hard way the past year that things aren’t necessarily all roses despite the successes from 2001-2007. Again, if nothing else, their slide as of late has increased the quality of the content their writers. A piece like Richard’s couldn’t have been written 12 months ago.

by outsidethesidelines on Sep 28, 2009 11:18 AM CDT reply actions  

OTS, I agree.

We are what we are. A 4-0 team who isn’t playing well, yet. I’m not defending the team or Miles, but I’m also not bashing them. Who knows what is going on. The competition is about to ramp up, so we’ll see if our level of play follows. Maybe it’s a motivation problem? Maybe it’s more than that.

Regardless you have to admit, this sounds funny.

Les Miles finds himself on the hot seat after a disappointing 4-0 start to the season.

I think it is somewhat tongue in cheek, which is the way I took it, even though there is some truth there.

by LSU Jonno on Sep 28, 2009 1:19 PM CDT reply actions  

which was how it was intended...

the goofy thing about this whole argument is how fast it collapses if you follow it to the logical conclusion. ok. fire miles. now who do you hire that can be even halfway as successful in his stead?

dropping a coach now means you take a pretty good team that has problems that can be fixed and throw it away for three years of mediocrity as another coach puts his system in place. and that’s if the guy works out, which is far from likely nowadays.

the only option is, as pittman pointed out, is to hold the man accountable and work on improving a good system that has been proven to bring success in the past. cutting bait now means not only does bama get seriously ahead of you, ole miss, arkansas and, shit, even auburn are now at least a year ahead as well. instead of vying for atlanta in december you are putting a brave face on unappetizing moral victories which still say “L” in the stat lines COUGHlaneCOUGHkiffinCOUGH.

by kleph on Sep 28, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jonno, I agree.

I think you honestly have the right take on it. LSU admittedly has played poorly to date, so there’s no reason to be overly optimistic, but by the same token there is no reason to be going nuts when are 4-0 either. We’ll see just how it plays out from here. The 2009 LSU team to date looks much like the 2008 team, but it could easily reverse itself. I could see 7-5 again, but I could also see 10-2. We’ll see.

And as for the truth in Miles getting on the hot seat despite a 4-0 start, it’s crazy as hell, but his entire tenure has been that. He was hired to replace a legend, practically inherited an NFL team, won tons of games, won a national title, turned down the Michigan job, pissed away a ton of games he should have won, lost momentum, had to implement staff turnover, and now the program seems to be declining. And, of course, that same legend comes back two years later and is now building a powerhouse at a divisional rival.

It’s crazy as hell, but honestly, given all that, there will never be anything remotely “normal” about the Miles era.

by outsidethesidelines on Sep 28, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bart Starr

I actually read something earlier today about that. Weird.

by Nico2.0 on Sep 28, 2009 3:30 PM CDT reply actions  

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