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Lane Kiffin has reportedly committed his first secondary violation at USC.

The former Tennessee coach picked up a recruit from the airport in a limo, according to Volquest.com.

Volunteer TV: Kiffin commits secondary violation at USC

It seems that Kiffin picked up Markeith Ambles at the airport in a limo, a violation of NCAA rules. Also, as an additional note, Ambles was on Ustream last night bad-mouthing 'Bama, so you can cross him off our list. He'll probably sign with USC, and we'll finish up with two offensive linemen and a defensive lineman to close out our class.

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I keep seeing this, but nobody states what the rule is that was broken.

And what exactly did Ambles say?

What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.

-Hank Hill

by Zoltar on Jan 23, 2010 1:46 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah

I mean, it seems a bit much to do it in a limo, but don’t they have to pick him up in something?

by Bobby Briggs on Jan 23, 2010 2:03 PM CST up reply actions  

The rule...

The applicable rule here is basically that you cannot parade recruits around in limos and other high-end cars (Ferraris, etc.), or get them private planes to fly in, etc. It’s basically the Willie Williams rule from all of his antics in 2002.

And as for Ambles, he was basically saying that he didn’t want to go to ‘Bama with our boring offense just to watch us hand it off to "what’s his name."

"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman

by outsidethesidelines on Jan 23, 2010 2:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Is a limo really that big of a deal though? I would think that the NCAA would have to use some kind of quantitative standard for what’s allowable. If so, I could see a basic limo not being a violation, but something like a stretched hummer limo being against the rules.

What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.

-Hank Hill

by Zoltar on Jan 23, 2010 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, honestly...

… do you really think they just rented out when one of those 1990’s Lincoln limos used by lame high school kids going to the prom?

I’m betting they had a stretch Hummer or Escalade. 2010 at that, too.

"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman

by outsidethesidelines on Jan 23, 2010 2:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Pretty fucking funny

“What’s his name”

The winner of the 75th Heisman Memorial Trophy presented by the Downtown Athletic Club.

How many punk WRs with speed are forgotten each year? Oh, yea…Most of ’em.

"Hollywood made a movie of my life. The film had me proposing to my wife on the football field. I would never misuse a football field that way." -Crazy Legs Hirsch

by Stuck in the Plains on Jan 23, 2010 2:44 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

chump ass punk

its too bad USC is going to suck so bad we wont get a chance to play em in a BCS game for years.

for the next five days there is nothing in my heart but hate. pure, untempered, ice-cold hate. fond memories are for saturday. - Kleph

by tempebamafan on Jan 23, 2010 5:23 PM CST up reply actions  

And I got my second ban from their fan site.

HAHAHAHAHA! Is it really trolling if you’re just telling them what they got and what their future looks like?

This is in celebration of my second ban. Rocky Top Talk didn't like what I had to say about Kiffin, and Conquest Chronicles didn't like the unpleasant, ugly, bitter truth. Why are they all so butthurt?

by Anarchon on Jan 23, 2010 8:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes.

Quit being a jerk.

I'm wrong all the time.

by PeteHoliday on Jan 24, 2010 11:32 AM CST up reply actions  

I almost feel bad about that.

Okay, I lied. I feel nothing but glee at seeing the reactions of all of those USC and Volun-tears fans with sand in their vagina. Besides, what’s a little light trolling among friends? I will never forget my several paragraph fanpost that got me banned on RTT when I congratulated Lane Kiffin for going five days without drawing the ire of Commissioner Slive. During a very tough time in my life, it made me smile.

This is in celebration of my second ban. Rocky Top Talk didn't like what I had to say about Kiffin, and Conquest Chronicles didn't like the unpleasant, ugly, bitter truth. Why are they all so butthurt?

by Anarchon on Jan 24, 2010 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Isn't that a ban from here?

I thought that was going to be the new rule.

I'm in no condition to drive...wait! I shouldn't listen to myself, I'm drunk.

by That Other Dave on Jan 24, 2010 2:36 PM CST up reply actions  

What?

All I did on Conquest Chronicles was ask why they were so butthurt, and here’s another of my “controversial” posts:

“No rent apartment for Reggie Bush’s parents, the use of an SUV owned by a businessman by another recent player, multi-sport involvement. A little math: X+Y+Z=YOU’RE SCREWED!!!

“Agents are actually interested in your athletes? Well, my team has the reigning Heisman champ, a Butkus award winner, other notables, and the best thing since "Refrigerator" Perry himself, Terrence "Mount" Cody, and those players all came without a free car or free rent for their parents.”

And here I thought people from SoCal were so hard…

This is in celebration of my second ban. Rocky Top Talk didn't like what I had to say about Kiffin, and Conquest Chronicles didn't like the unpleasant, ugly, bitter truth. Why are they all so butthurt?

by Anarchon on Jan 24, 2010 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Although...

Maybe posting the pic of Eric Cartman licking Scott Tenorman’s tears along with that might’ve ruffled a few feathers.

Oh, how about this “controversial” post:

“The very fact you are USC…

“Does not negate the fact that you have to play by the same rules as everyone else. The allegations are as severe and obvious as it would be had Hillary caught Bill with Monica and taped it. For the NCAA to continue to have any credibility whatsoever, USC is going to get hurt. Carroll’s leaving should have been your first major clue about that, especially the way he left. Denial is good and comforting, but it does not help you prepare for reality, and the reality is that USC is going to get hit like few teams have been hit before. The only reason I don’t see USC, or any other team, getting the SMU treatment is because of what it would do to the Pac-10. The "death penalty", especially in today’s money game, is a nuclear weapon on the scale of the Tsar Bomba. Even taking that off the table, though, the NCAA has a number of highly unpleasant options, which you will be seeing shortly.”

This is in celebration of my second ban. Rocky Top Talk didn't like what I had to say about Kiffin, and Conquest Chronicles didn't like the unpleasant, ugly, bitter truth. Why are they all so butthurt?

by Anarchon on Jan 24, 2010 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Seriously?

Why do you feel the need to stir the pot? You’re just being rude and making Alabama fans and southerners in general look like ignorant jerks.

Don’t even pretend that Bama hasn’t had their fair share of NCAA violations. [Insert something about glass houses]

by Skriggety on Jan 25, 2010 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

You call it stirring the pot.

I call it reality therapy. Moreover, I call it “fun”. As for the rest, well, I’ll share my latest driver’s license photo.

This is in celebration of my second ban. Rocky Top Talk didn't like what I had to say about Kiffin, and Conquest Chronicles didn't like the unpleasant, ugly, bitter truth. Why are they all so butthurt?

by Anarchon on Jan 25, 2010 4:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Boring

Yeah, I guess methodically moving your way down the field with an excellent running game is boring compared to tossing the ball around for a 15-14 TD-INT ratio…

by billycthulhu on Jan 24, 2010 6:01 PM CST up reply actions  

They can keep...

their pussified throw the ball all over the field and try to trick the opposition offense. We will keep what proves time and time again to work. (See 2010 AL vs. TX for example)

My Mama says that alligators are ornery because they got all them teeth and no toothbrush.

by J.JACOBS4PRES on Jan 25, 2010 1:07 AM CST up reply actions  

another violation?

USC is in big trouble, i’m not up on my NCAA rules and i’m probably very wrong, but if a team has severe sanctions (which they will have eventually) and they report many secondary violations, doesn’t it result in a harsher punishment than normal, in regards to the secondary violation?

by bamagary on Jan 23, 2010 1:53 PM CST reply actions  

Only...

…in the SEC….

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Jan 23, 2010 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

No

I'm wrong all the time.

by PeteHoliday on Jan 24, 2010 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Have fun Markeith...

You and Lane are perfect for each other.

by AThomas77 on Jan 23, 2010 2:11 PM CST reply actions  

Lane probably put him up to it

Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs

by bamachine on Jan 24, 2010 12:01 AM CST up reply actions  

What else is more interesting to talk about?

I’d rather read it here than subject my eyes to a moniter screen filled up with Orange.

Got a dip in my stride, cuz you fear the tide.

by MobileBayCityRoller on Jan 23, 2010 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

really has more to do with Bama than UT

What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.

-Hank Hill

by Zoltar on Jan 23, 2010 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Poetic Justice

First of all I know he is only a kid but you would have to question anyone’s choice making skills if they were committed Tennessee much less Lame Kiffin. If he signs with with USC now it would be poetic justice. We’ll see who is forgotten the next 4 years when USC is on post season probation. Those wide receivers on the boring offense “that won that National Championship” sacrificed the spot light to be team players. I think we are better off without guys who don’t feel the same way.

by thestreakis9 on Jan 23, 2010 3:24 PM CST reply actions  

Hines Ward ring a bell?

That’s who Julio reminds me of, anyway.

"Hollywood made a movie of my life. The film had me proposing to my wife on the football field. I would never misuse a football field that way." -Crazy Legs Hirsch

by Stuck in the Plains on Jan 23, 2010 3:31 PM CST up reply actions  

ward, and larry fitzgerald

if you ask me.

for the next five days there is nothing in my heart but hate. pure, untempered, ice-cold hate. fond memories are for saturday. - Kleph

by tempebamafan on Jan 23, 2010 5:27 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think Julio

has hands even close to Fitzgerald’s level (yet).
Athletically I’d say he’s closer to T.O., but with Ward’s toughness and mentality.

by tc16cav on Jan 23, 2010 5:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I wouldn't want JJ

cracking back on me, that’s for damned sure.

"Hollywood made a movie of my life. The film had me proposing to my wife on the football field. I would never misuse a football field that way." -Crazy Legs Hirsch

by Stuck in the Plains on Jan 23, 2010 6:43 PM CST up reply actions  

+1,000,000

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Jan 23, 2010 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe this will be the final straw

to piss off just one of the hostesses enough to come forward . Come on ladies—he not only used you and your beloved UT, now he is getting away withsecondary violations to steal your recruits. And more to come, no doubt.

"I never did give anybody hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was
hell."
- Harry S Truman

by adeleswims on Jan 23, 2010 4:47 PM CST reply actions  

You mean the ones

NOT getting “scholarships” to follow their john Kiffin to USC to be hookahs Song Girls?

"Hollywood made a movie of my life. The film had me proposing to my wife on the football field. I would never misuse a football field that way." -Crazy Legs Hirsch

by Stuck in the Plains on Jan 23, 2010 6:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Looks like

another UT coach left in the middle of the night. Literally. WIthout telling anybody.

by Alakablamo on Jan 23, 2010 6:15 PM CST reply actions  

A lot of bridges burnt here.

They better hope for the longevity of Knoll, or these clowns will never see another coaching gig…again.

"Hollywood made a movie of my life. The film had me proposing to my wife on the football field. I would never misuse a football field that way." -Crazy Legs Hirsch

by Stuck in the Plains on Jan 23, 2010 6:38 PM CST up reply actions  

So does anyone know

was this a “self reported” violation and has the NCAA acknowledged it formally?

by BamaGirlinDallas on Jan 23, 2010 6:16 PM CST reply actions  

I still think the NCAA

will do nothing to USC but a wrist slap and UT somehow will escape too.

Nevertheless, USC is not going to be that good under the lack of leadership called Kiffin. I mean PC was a much better leader than Kiffin but even he let the players do whatever they wanted. The result was the USC won 1 BCSNC when they had the players to win 5.

Can you imagine what Saban would have done in that conference with that kind of talent?

And UT, although now with a better leader that Kiffin, still does not have a coach that I think can even win the East.

I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.

by 5026 on Jan 23, 2010 8:05 PM CST reply actions  

If they will give Dooley a few years...

…I think he will surprise some. I do not think he will be a better coach than Saban but he has the pedigree and the teaching(7 years with Nick). At the very least, he will bring some class back to Knoxville.

Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs

by bamachine on Jan 24, 2010 12:06 AM CST up reply actions  

back?

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Jan 24, 2010 9:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Here you go again

The NCAA is going to give USC every bit of punishment they can justify given the information that they can actually reliably prove.

It’s not a conspiracy. it’s not the NCAA playing favorites.

It’s the simple fact that the NCAA does not have subpoena power and if a school and its former coaches/players don’t want to tell the NCAA anything, they don’t have to. If nobody talks, the NCAA is SOL. The problem that ’Bama has had over the past decade or so stems from a) idiot alums getting into bidding wars with other schools, expecting them to just lose gracefully rather than reporting us to the NCAA and b) ’Bama being so paranoid that we report every piddly little thing that happens any more, making us an easy target.

I'm wrong all the time.

by PeteHoliday on Jan 24, 2010 11:38 AM CST up reply actions  

True, the NCAA does not have subpoena power...

But they also lack ethics, integrity, intelligence, and basic human decency. For the NCAA to continue as a respected and respectable entity, USC will have no choice but to throw the book at them. That said, I’m not holding my breath, regardless of the words I used that got me banned on Conquest Chronicles.

This is in celebration of my second ban. Rocky Top Talk didn't like what I had to say about Kiffin, and Conquest Chronicles didn't like the unpleasant, ugly, bitter truth. Why are they all so butthurt?

by Anarchon on Jan 24, 2010 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I misspoke.

I should have said the NCAA will have no choice but to throw the book at them (USC).

This is in celebration of my second ban. Rocky Top Talk didn't like what I had to say about Kiffin, and Conquest Chronicles didn't like the unpleasant, ugly, bitter truth. Why are they all so butthurt?

by Anarchon on Jan 24, 2010 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I see where your coming from Pete.

I will admit that I probably sound like I believe in a conspiracy but it is not really like that. What I do believe is that the NCAA committees are made up of people, who like all people have biases. It is my opinion that these people, probably subconsciously, have some schools they favor and some schools they dislike.

I think they favor USC.. I think that is probably related to USC looking a lot like Hollywood. I think they give USC the benefit of the doubt. I also think they favor Tennessee. I’m not sure where this came from but in my opinion Tennessee has gotten away with a lot of stuff over the years.

I think they dislike Alabama. I think this may be related to having bad feelings about Coach Bryant. A lot of these folks were around in his day and they may have felt like he was cheating at Bama because of A&M. I think they may have wanted to do something to Bama when he was alive but he was so popular they could do nothing. I also think they don’t like Auburn.

Well I could go on listing schools that to me seem to get away with stuff and other schools that seem to get hit with penalties. None of this is proof just my opinion and I will claim it as my opinion. I don’t think there is a conspiracy I just don’t think we have blind justice.

And because of that I think USC and UT both get very little punishment, if any. You could argue they get little punishment because there is no evidence. I’d say the NCAA can find evidence when they want to find evidence. Anyway, if USC does get hit hard then I’ll admit that I have misjudged the NCAA.

I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.

by 5026 on Jan 24, 2010 11:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow

its like ur inside my head…scary.

My Mama says that alligators are ornery because they got all them teeth and no toothbrush.

by J.JACOBS4PRES on Jan 25, 2010 1:13 AM CST up reply actions  

I question the veracity of this article

Lane Kiffin is an upstanding, honest man. No way a guy like that would violate even a tertiary NCAA recruiting rule.

MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--

BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.

by Bamagrad on Jan 24, 2010 10:26 AM CST reply actions  

Did you...

…just refer to him as a ‘man’?

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Jan 24, 2010 3:55 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd!

I would’ve used the term “weasel”, “vermin”, or “soon-to-be-unemployable coach”.

This is in celebration of my second ban. Rocky Top Talk didn't like what I had to say about Kiffin, and Conquest Chronicles didn't like the unpleasant, ugly, bitter truth. Why are they all so butthurt?

by Anarchon on Jan 24, 2010 8:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Or "sewer plant"

My Mama says that alligators are ornery because they got all them teeth and no toothbrush.

by J.JACOBS4PRES on Jan 25, 2010 1:18 AM CST up reply actions  

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