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Thoughts on Mississippi

  • Not an inspiring effort by any means, but it's better than a loss.
  • We're still showing most/all of the same problems and I personally think this was why Coach Saban was so displeased at halftime and at the end of the game.  In the first half, for example, we ran approximately 70% of our plays in Ole Miss territory, yet we scored 16 points and kicked three field goals.
  • We have no vertical threat/ability at all.  None.  What was it, 2 of 8 on attempts over ten yards?  Don't forget about the sacks.  Maybe it was really 2 of 10.  Who knows and who cares?  It was crappy.
  • Our defensive backs still don't use their eyes as well as they should.  If Masoli passes a little bit better and if their receivers could catch, we really might have lost that game.  They had us beaten on several occassions.
  • McElroy is not built to quarterback this team.  We're all aware of his "Game Manager" title and inability to make quick decisions and live with both the good and bad, but without a knockout defense, Greg's ability stands out.  Our opponents see it and they're going to continue to force him to beat them.  Sure, we stopped Ole Miss last night.  But will we score in Baton Rouge?  Will we be able to score with Auburn?
  • I think we should continue to play a 40 front with two tackles and two defensive ends.  We have not played well in the 30 front this year and the biggest reason, in my opinion, is that we don't have three linemen who can control the point of attack/Line of scrimmage as well as Cody and Company controlled it last year.
  • I was thinking before the OM game that the best way to play Auburn will be with a 40 front.
  • As of this moment, if we do not improve greatly, we will lose to both LSU and Auburn.  I'm not saying it will happen or that I want that to happen, but we need to get better.  Our inability to throw the ball is maddening and it's horrible seeing crappy defensive teams hold Ingram and Richardson to low yardage totals.  If we don't get this right, we will not score enough points to beat LSU in Baton Rouge and we will not beat Auburn--even with a good defensive performance--kicking field goals three out of four scoring possessions.
  • Football Gods...we grovel before thee, we come in supplication and implore thee to stop the injuries.  We are the walking wounded.  Have mercy, oh ye Gods!
  • McElroy: I'll be honest, your attitude bothers me.  You are the kid Barry Switzer was talking about when he said, "Some guys are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple."  Remember one thing, if only one thing, you are a C- quarterback on an A team.  We have won a lot of games so you have been sheltered from the truth.  You are Brian Bergdorf with a better supporting cast.  You are Brian Bergdorf with a side of Lance Tucker.  Remember that, Greg.  You are the moderately bright student in the AP or Honors class (not a good analogy for Greg, but you get the point) who got a spot because his father threatened to sue the school and the principal is too conscious of his job to take a stand.  Remember the next time you question your teammates' commitment or talk arrogantly to a reporter or state that you'd rather be called "Field General".  To quote my QB Guru friend--who sends me texts MotherF'ing you every game (except for the SECCG in 2009)--Julio, Ingram, and Richardson laugh at you when you're not around (I don't know if that's true, but I found it funny when I read it).  Remember that Saban wanted to burn a true freshman quarterback's redshirt at halftime of the LSU game last year because he doubted we could win with you at quarterback.  He did.  Without screen passes and checkdowns you'd complete two passes in ten attempts for eternity.  So get a grip on yourself, brother.  Your job has simply been not to screw up.  This year, without a knockout D, you're going to have to be a real quarterback.  So let's see something, Bergdorf/Tucker. 
  • McElroy: please get this right.  Please.  At some point you are going to have to win another game and you're going to have to go vertical to do it.  Everyone is on to you now.  Fix it.  Dude, fix it!
  • The run defense played well.  Efforts like that will be good enough to beat most teams.  We still are struggling to defend the pass, though, and if you watched closely the same coverage breakdowns and mental mistakes appeared last night.
  • This is the angriest I've been after a win in a long time.  I'm going back to bed.



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i thought the pass defense was a tad better last night...

Masoli made some plays throwing that was due to his ability to play on the fly…take that shovel pass that led to a score…we had it snuffed out and should have been a negative play….but the dude double clutches, changes hands and makes a play….he threw a couple of nice side arm passes last night.

What i saw last night has a step forward for the D and a couple steps back for the offense.

Alabama football....The only addiction God wholeheartedly approves of..

by bammer on Oct 17, 2010 9:28 AM CDT reply actions  

Masoli showed his...

“Me” side and made bad decisions that hurt the team. Oregon is much better without him.

Unity begins with the understanding that everyone is different and to accept them as such. - Confucius

by skycaster on Oct 17, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

At what point do we use AJ?

I can’t think of a better time to do it. If Gmac struggles at all against UT, we need to bring him in. I agree with so much of what you wrote about Gmac, but he is what he is. He is not going to suddenly wake up and have a big arm. He can’t throw the ball down field because he doesn’t have the arm to fire it in there. I’m not sure why we thought this year’s offense would be lights out. It is the same offense as last year. With an entire year to watch film, every team we play knows how to stop our running game. I wouldn’t doubt it if we see AJ some this week. We may need him to beat LSU and Auburn.

Roll Tide!

by mobilematt12 on Oct 17, 2010 9:43 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

If history is any indication...

it will be like the 2008 SECCG with JPW in the fourth, TOO LATE !!!

Unity begins with the understanding that everyone is different and to accept them as such. - Confucius

by skycaster on Oct 17, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would be pretty happy to just be in the SECCG this year

"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath

by billycthulhu on Oct 17, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mother of OMG. I'm done now because this is sounding just like mother flippin'

Georgia fans who are crap. You can say what you want about someones playing, they are not that talented or the didn’t give the effort, but this rude shit is for the lovely folks that love to run down their FB players because after all, you would do it better and you are so much smarter. Go back to bed and stay there because it is what it is and what a bunch of cry babies.

Bama's Pluck and Grit have Writ Her Name in Crimson Flame

by TideFanAtlanta on Oct 17, 2010 10:07 AM CDT reply actions  

We can appreciate your loyalty...

but we’re only now seeing what Saban saw a the beginning of the season. It’s not that we’re whining, we just care and know if things don’t change, Bama will be sitting a bottom of the SEC West.

Unity begins with the understanding that everyone is different and to accept them as such. - Confucius

by skycaster on Oct 17, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

thats going a bit far..

the bottom? We already took Arkys best shot and won. We’ll beat MSU. Im pretty sure we’ll get past LSU too. Auburn is the test…and only cause Cam is so hard to bring down.

Alabama football....The only addiction God wholeheartedly approves of..

by bammer on Oct 17, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

That was a bit harsh...

but you understand my concern. We have been spoiled by success and I guess it’s time for me to lower my expectations a bit and trust that the “process” is a journey, not a destination.

Unity begins with the understanding that everyone is different and to accept them as such. - Confucius

by skycaster on Oct 17, 2010 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

understood...but..

we are playing bad no doubt but the sky is not falling..

Alabama football....The only addiction God wholeheartedly approves of..

by bammer on Oct 17, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

if you can't tell

there is something wrong with this team then i don’t know what to say to you…The offensive line is struggling but playing far beyond good enough to win. The WR’s don’t have the case of the droppsies. We know the talent of the RB’s…TE’s are playing well…

Our problem on offense is at QB. Im not even sure play calling is the problem. Without being able to see the birds eye view of the play (can’t tell if WR’s are open are not) all i can assume is GMac is being overly cautious. His shots down field are WAY off.

Saying that Gmac is the problem isn’t being a bad fan…its just seeing reality.

Alabama football....The only addiction God wholeheartedly approves of..

by bammer on Oct 17, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Maybe so...

…but being correct is no excuse for being a dick (not pointing at your, bammer)….

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Oct 17, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

words to live by

"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath

by billycthulhu on Oct 17, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

i sense a new sig in the making

"You have to create 6 seconds of hell each play..."
Coach Nick Saban

by LittleSis on Oct 17, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't necessarily disagree about the key problem......

But suggesting all else is right is not quite accurate IMHO. Julio does drop at least one pass every freakin’ game. It’s maddening. And while our running backs are incredibly talented, it doesn’t change the fact that teams are defending them better this year. That is not GMac’s fault. What it may show, to the point of the post, is that he is not, or cannot step up to, filling the gap. Last night, on some passes, he seemed to be trying too hard, and at other times, he had the deer-in-the-headlights look. If he really is a C- QB, on which grading I might differ a bit, then any other offensive shortcomings will in fact highlight it. Agreed. OTOH, as for play calling, I disagree there as well. Too many posts already highlight inconsistencies in play calling, calling the obvious, etc. I am a McElwain fan, but there are times when I stare at the screen and say WTF?

Again, I don’t necessarily disagree on the conclusion, but all is not otherwise okay in my view.

You can't win. You can't break even. You can't get out of the game.

by StablerRaider on Oct 17, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

Have we had a single game this year without multiple instances of receivers dropping very catchable—or even perfect throws—that would have been first downs but instead caused us to punt? One game where that hasn’t happened? I don’t think so.

by Steven Mitchell on Oct 18, 2010 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

OMG the truth is so mean!

sorry and hope we dont hurt anyone’s feelings, but dude, Gmac played like horsehit for three games. The other teams are loading up against our run and forcing us to pass it, and Gmac cant. This bullshit mid season slump – again – is horseshit for a QB that is as cocky and “confident” as Gmac seems to be. I can attribute a lot of our offensive issues to him not checking his reads, zeroing in on one receiver (when others are WIDE open…I was at the game, and all this 3-5 yard passes when we had hanks, maze, or others wide open 15-20 yards down field was frustrating as hell), and holding on to the damn ball too long. He is playing like shit, and there is nothing wrong with calling it as it is. Further, take away the 85 yard screen pass Trent turned into a TD and he has 130 yards passing. 3rd and goal and he throws a pass to ingram at the 5 with three guys between him and the goal line? horseshit.

As for our secondary, much better BUT Milner is going to cost us a game – he doesnt look for the ball and lets receivers get ahead of him in routes. He is not playing well IMO.

If we don’t get our shit straight, Auburn and Newton are going to kill us. That isn’t hyperbole, that shit is reality. If you can’t see that now, then you are as blind as a bat.

"I guess I must stutter. Did I stutter? I'm not very clear on how I articulate. Maybe I need to go back to West Virginia and get some more hillbilly slang and maybe everybody can understand me a little better." - Nick Saban, because reporters haven't learned.

by BamaReturns07 on Oct 17, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

No argument.......

My only point was that we have more than just GMac about which to be concerned. It’s not like everything else is okay either. And it’s obvious to everyone:

http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/article/20101017/news/101019676

You can't win. You can't break even. You can't get out of the game.

by StablerRaider on Oct 17, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree but he is the biggest concern IMO

and his mental state/toughness isn’t as consistent as once thought.

"I guess I must stutter. Did I stutter? I'm not very clear on how I articulate. Maybe I need to go back to West Virginia and get some more hillbilly slang and maybe everybody can understand me a little better." - Nick Saban, because reporters haven't learned.

by BamaReturns07 on Oct 17, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think this gets to the heart of something that really pissed me off last night

First of all, I’ll say I agreed with all of OTS’s points in his initial impressions piece, and most of Bamagrad’s here. But I think that while you have to see the truth about your team and criticize aspects of the game that aren’t working, you shouldn’t go around shitting all over them. I know it seems like kind of a thin line and hard to get at, but for me the difference is obvious. I heard people in the student section doing the following things which pissed me off:
-Yell things like “We suck!”, “McElroy sucks!”, “We are the worst team in the SEC West!” (Yes, that makes a lot of sense as we beat another SECW team and we’ve already beaten another one)
-Actually BOO when McElroy gets sacked (this was by no means a majority of people, but I heard it)
-Leave in the 3rd quarter when we’re only up by 13 on an SEC team (again, not a majority, but definitely a sizable number of people)

Again, I absolutely agree that we have a lot of problems to work on, and we are NOT a championship-caliber team right now. But you only have to go back a few years to know what it’s like to actually SUCK, and that is not our team. Even if it was, you never, never boo your own team. That’s just ridiculous. I also really wanted to ask the people leaving if they’d like to transfer the rest of their tickets to me since they were obviously not interested in cheering on our team anymore.

"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath

by billycthulhu on Oct 17, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Auburn...

…sadly, does not have a monopoly on classless fans….

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Oct 17, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I shit you not

Before every one of their home games this year, their band has led the student section in a rousing “rammer jammer yellow hammer go to hell Alabama”

"Fortune, as they call her, is a drunken and capricious woman and, worse still, blind; and so she doesn’t see what she’s doing, and doesn’t know whom she is casting down or raising up." - Gary Crowton to Les Miles

by Thomas Walker Esq on Oct 17, 2010 4:17 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

That's pretty funny...and pathetic

Their pregame videos are pretty shitty as well. Looks like you can add communications/AV departments to the list of things we are better at than Auburn.

"I guess I must stutter. Did I stutter? I'm not very clear on how I articulate. Maybe I need to go back to West Virginia and get some more hillbilly slang and maybe everybody can understand me a little better." - Nick Saban, because reporters haven't learned.

by BamaReturns07 on Oct 17, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

True,

But they do have the Auburn Institute of Exploding Dogs, so that’s gotta count for something.

"Fortune, as they call her, is a drunken and capricious woman and, worse still, blind; and so she doesn’t see what she’s doing, and doesn’t know whom she is casting down or raising up." - Gary Crowton to Les Miles

by Thomas Walker Esq on Oct 17, 2010 4:52 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Shit they win

and Cam for heisman OMG!

"I guess I must stutter. Did I stutter? I'm not very clear on how I articulate. Maybe I need to go back to West Virginia and get some more hillbilly slang and maybe everybody can understand me a little better." - Nick Saban, because reporters haven't learned.

by BamaReturns07 on Oct 17, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't like the booing at all, but I think a lot of that is directed at the coaching staff

maybe not in the student sections, but I sat in the south upper last night and the boos were directed at the coaching decisions.

As for people leaving in the third quarter, I don’t think that was a concern last night. It was damn near 11pm when the third quarter was over. Don’t underestimate the affect of kicking off so late had on the team as well as the fans. The atmosphere was nowhere near what it was at SJSU, IMO.

"I guess I must stutter. Did I stutter? I'm not very clear on how I articulate. Maybe I need to go back to West Virginia and get some more hillbilly slang and maybe everybody can understand me a little better." - Nick Saban, because reporters haven't learned.

by BamaReturns07 on Oct 17, 2010 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

True, it was a very late game.

"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath

by billycthulhu on Oct 17, 2010 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're right

Don’t ever criticize the offense. Don’t criticize McElroy. Just sit back and clap. Alabama can do no wrong. The good fans can tolerate field goals, lack of a vertical passing game, a lollipop armed QB, and piss poor offensive execution and how dare the bad fans criticize it!? They’re not real fans. The University of Alabama Crimson Tide is infallible.

I love Bama fans. “Our passing game is shitty.” Hey, hoo-da-boo-da-booo what you mean saying some nonsense like that? Some of them are so loyal to the program that they can’t ever see any fault in it and they condemn anyone who criticizes any aspect of the Tide. You’re right, all our quarterbacks have been outstanding. We’re a quarterback factory. Brian Bergdorf was awesome. My bad, Brian.

When other fans ask, “Who’s the last big time quarterback to come out of Alabama?” and I answer, “Uh…you know…Croyle…uh…Stabler…Namath…Bart Starr…” they laugh at me and I don’t blame them. I laugh too. They’ve got me on that one.

"Open your mouth again and I'll nail it shut." Henriques, COMMANDO (1985).

by Bamagrad on Oct 17, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

You have some good points...

but you obviously can’t take criticism of your opinions.

by TexasTideGirl on Oct 17, 2010 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think I'm wrong

"Open your mouth again and I'll nail it shut." Henriques, COMMANDO (1985).

by Bamagrad on Oct 17, 2010 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think you're wrong

Aren’t you a football coach and former Tide player? Them’s credentials, main.

"Fortune, as they call her, is a drunken and capricious woman and, worse still, blind; and so she doesn’t see what she’s doing, and doesn’t know whom she is casting down or raising up." - Gary Crowton to Les Miles

by Thomas Walker Esq on Oct 17, 2010 7:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Kinda like putting Esq after your name...

Alabama football....The only addiction God wholeheartedly approves of..

by bammer on Oct 17, 2010 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Figured it was more recognizable than GENT

But you stay outta this, you ginger. It’s your kind that’s the root of this problem…damn soulless daywalkers…

"Fortune, as they call her, is a drunken and capricious woman and, worse still, blind; and so she doesn’t see what she’s doing, and doesn’t know whom she is casting down or raising up." - Gary Crowton to Les Miles

by Thomas Walker Esq on Oct 17, 2010 7:41 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ha ha Ginger kids

"I guess I must stutter. Did I stutter? I'm not very clear on how I articulate. Maybe I need to go back to West Virginia and get some more hillbilly slang and maybe everybody can understand me a little better." - Nick Saban, because reporters haven't learned.

by BamaReturns07 on Oct 17, 2010 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

since my hair is blonde but

my beard is red…i get alot of questions about it….especially from the laaaadies.

Alabama football....The only addiction God wholeheartedly approves of..

by bammer on Oct 17, 2010 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your beard is Auburn colored

lulz

"I guess I must stutter. Did I stutter? I'm not very clear on how I articulate. Maybe I need to go back to West Virginia and get some more hillbilly slang and maybe everybody can understand me a little better." - Nick Saban, because reporters haven't learned.

by BamaReturns07 on Oct 17, 2010 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Apparently...

…so is his…carpet (ugh)….

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Oct 17, 2010 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

actually...is a dark red..so its closer

to Crimson thank you very much…

Alabama football....The only addiction God wholeheartedly approves of..

by bammer on Oct 18, 2010 7:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

As a daywalker...

I resent that shit. Go die in a fire.

by Bama philosophe on Oct 17, 2010 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

hey now easy kids..

it was nice to meet you Bama phil. Good luck on the hardcore school work you were telling me about

by chinesedentist on Oct 18, 2010 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Likewise...

Sorry I had to bounce so quickly. Next time I’m in town I’ll stick around longer.

by Bama philosophe on Oct 19, 2010 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

My issue is when adults criticize college ballplayers as if they were pros or as if they were doing something important.

Some of these guys (like Milliner) were in a high school classrooms this time last year. At some point we have to feel silly (and I do often) when we’re cussing at a TV screen showing a 20 year old college student making a bad play. It’s a bit embarrassing that we, first of all, hold them with such importance, and secondly, that we degrade ourselves being hostile over an amateur ball game. The coaches— sure. They’re grown men making absurd amounts of money, so they’re fair game. But come on, no matter how sorry some of these kids may be it’s a bit harsh to make such an issue over their failures on a Saturday afternoon.

That being said, there’s still a lot to complain about but one thing we may just need to accept is that we’re not as good as some of the other teams on a given day. Sometimes it’s just gonna work out that way. The outcome is a mixture of coaching, talent, and luck and they rarely all favor one team for very long. This is one of those years we may need to accept it and move on. Find others more deserving of our vitriol like political and media figures, coworkers, in-laws and so on… there’s plenty good finger pointing to go around. Like this asshole next door to me who can’t seem to keep the cat litter smell in his own apartment.. and listens to bad music. Surely this guy’s not Rhodes scholar or SEC QB material.

The important thing is that we have an organization that is committed to teaching these guys how to be good students, football players, and men. They represent themselves well in our communities and for the most part, play like hell every time they lace up. Greg might be overconfident, hell, he might have a little silver spooned delusion, but he’s worked his ass off (as far as I know) in the last few years trying to be as good as he can. Surely when we see the back-up for Arkansas come in and immediately make throws McElroy has never made, it’s obvious to us (and him) that he’s not an elite talent. But he’ll make enough plays to give us a chance to win and when and if Saban thinks AJ is better suited for this team, I’m sure McElroy will go to the sidelines with class and support his team. One thing we must continually remind ourselves of is that Saban knows more than we do about his team and knows more than most of us about football.

By the looks of things, I'm pretty sure God doesn't care how you do in sports.

by zarahoopstra on Oct 17, 2010 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

dang dude, good points all around. starting to look like a ‘rebuilding year’, might need to stock up on hard liquor. pass D might have their shit together by the auburn game, in time to play the nations best running QB and causing 1000s of bammers ears and eyes to bleed. players are good but you can look at florida yesterday and see thats not gonna stop ze germans when zey come. say what you will about gmac, at least we aren’t florida right now, with old coach coming in and winning with bottom rung recruits and the worst facilities in the SEC. if we lose to MSU are we officially Relf’d? dang i’m so dehydrated, almost time to watch incompetent NFL teams.

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by Alabama ManDance on Oct 17, 2010 10:32 AM CDT reply actions  

Negativity reigned supreme this week and now Sunday is no different

People, we know McElroy is not “next level” talent. I too would like to see AJ get some playing time, BUT I guarantee you that he is learning a ton about the basics of leading an offense in the SEC. If 2009 taught us anything, it should have taught us that CNS didn’t “86” Mac from the starting job because he knew something we didn’t. He stuck with his starter in the National Championship Game even after the guy fractured some ribs!!!

We have to trust Coach Saban and his staff. Against Ole Miss, we knew the Tide wouldn’t romp to a 40-10 victory. We knew Ole Miss would be a stronger team than that.
However, we were looking for marked improvement over the SC game and in my opinion, we got it. Coach Saban wanted the Offense to be “no frills” because he wanted something resembling an error-free game. I loved the pressure that the D brought and Ole Miss’ offense is a lot like Florida’s, which is a lot like Auburn’s. This performance bodes well for us, so please cheer the f___ up, Tiders. It’s progress, which is exactly what a team needs when it isn’t used to recovering from a loss.

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by TiderUpNorth on Oct 17, 2010 1:53 PM CDT reply actions  

I too would like to see AJ get some playing time,

I think that’s what most people are saying, not that GMac should be benched. It’s simply a matter of if you’re starter ain’t throwing strikes, you’ve got to give someone else a shot.

At half, the first thing Saban mentioned was ‘missed passes’ or something to that effect. No one’s trying to dog out GMac, but it is what it is.

by yellowhammer on Oct 17, 2010 2:29 PM CDT reply actions  

I have started to wonder, and I could very well be wrong, if Saban isn't TOO loyal

to his QBs. He stuck with JPW in 07 when he played horrible, and I am surprised that AJ hasnt seen action. I know GMac had nice stats last week, but his mistakes have stalled our offense. The QB position can easily make the rest of the O look horrible if not on par or better.

"I guess I must stutter. Did I stutter? I'm not very clear on how I articulate. Maybe I need to go back to West Virginia and get some more hillbilly slang and maybe everybody can understand me a little better." - Nick Saban, because reporters haven't learned.

by BamaReturns07 on Oct 17, 2010 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'd rather he be too loyal..

…to an experienced QB than pull Spurrier’s shit and keep throwing young guys to the wolves and hampering their development.

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by Todd on Oct 17, 2010 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

I assumed getting them some solid playing time would help

AJ hasnt played a ton in our blowout wins.

"I guess I must stutter. Did I stutter? I'm not very clear on how I articulate. Maybe I need to go back to West Virginia and get some more hillbilly slang and maybe everybody can understand me a little better." - Nick Saban, because reporters haven't learned.

by BamaReturns07 on Oct 17, 2010 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

IDK..

If Gmac continues to really struggle and we lose a game or go forbid two due to the offensive woes…dont be surprised to see AJ out there..

Alabama football....The only addiction God wholeheartedly approves of..

by bammer on Oct 17, 2010 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was warming up on the sidelines in the second qrtr

"I guess I must stutter. Did I stutter? I'm not very clear on how I articulate. Maybe I need to go back to West Virginia and get some more hillbilly slang and maybe everybody can understand me a little better." - Nick Saban, because reporters haven't learned.

by BamaReturns07 on Oct 17, 2010 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

really??

interesting

Alabama football....The only addiction God wholeheartedly approves of..

by bammer on Oct 17, 2010 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes..

do tell..

/ all ears …( not Tupperville)

Unity begins with the understanding that everyone is different and to accept them as such. - Confucius

by skycaster on Oct 17, 2010 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just saw him warming up on the sidelines

for about 15 minutes or so. Then he sat down. It was after the second sack I believe. We really thought he was going in, but I guess Saban changed his mind.

"I guess I must stutter. Did I stutter? I'm not very clear on how I articulate. Maybe I need to go back to West Virginia and get some more hillbilly slang and maybe everybody can understand me a little better." - Nick Saban, because reporters haven't learned.

by BamaReturns07 on Oct 17, 2010 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

At least the thought...

is in Saban’s mind is good enough for me. No need for blind faith.

Unity begins with the understanding that everyone is different and to accept them as such. - Confucius

by skycaster on Oct 17, 2010 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Apparently McElroy’s hand was stepped on and he was tackled by the ankle (the same one that was already injured). He was slow to get up. Maybe AJ was warning up because of that. I doubt that Saban was considering yanking McElroy because of how he was playing.

by Bumpjon on Oct 18, 2010 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

have a rec..for blasting that one out of the park!

"...because you've got your mind right, and that's the way we like it." Nick Saban

by SRGBama on Oct 17, 2010 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I did my share...

of bitchin’ last night primarily due to shear frustration in our lack-luster offensive production. With 9 returning starters, we were supposed to be an offensive juggernaut. But, instead we seem to be misfiring at every turn. (talk about over the top..)

I want the GMac that played in the 2009 SECCG. He played with confidence, accuracy and great field presence. Ever since the two interception against Arky, Greg has went into a shell. Maybe it’s in his make-up to go into his man-cave mid-season, contemplate and come out a few games later a better man. I wish him a better-than-ever emergence.

That being said, Roll Tide Roll and we’ll beat UT 48 – 6 in Knockherupsville.

Unity begins with the understanding that everyone is different and to accept them as such. - Confucius

by skycaster on Oct 17, 2010 2:38 PM CDT reply actions  

My barber suffers from shear frustration....

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Oct 17, 2010 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

ha ha ha ha I get it

But I don’t think carrotop will

"I guess I must stutter. Did I stutter? I'm not very clear on how I articulate. Maybe I need to go back to West Virginia and get some more hillbilly slang and maybe everybody can understand me a little better." - Nick Saban, because reporters haven't learned.

by BamaReturns07 on Oct 17, 2010 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sounds dangerous, you should get a new barber

You could try mine, he’s a cut above the rest

"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath

by billycthulhu on Oct 17, 2010 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the tip...

…‘cause mine’s a real hack….

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Oct 18, 2010 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

No problem

Don’t get on his bad side, though. He can get a bit snippy. You don’t want to get yourself into a hairy situation.

"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath

by billycthulhu on Oct 18, 2010 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you think

we can hang 48 pts. on UT you have not been watching us.

I’d be happy with 24-14.

As much as I hate Auburn I hate Tenn. that much more.

by 5026 on Oct 17, 2010 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

A man can dream, can't he?

Unity begins with the understanding that everyone is different and to accept them as such. - Confucius

by skycaster on Oct 17, 2010 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

if only I'd invented the Finglonger...

"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath

by billycthulhu on Oct 17, 2010 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

spot on.

I agree completely about the success we had with switching to a four man front.

Yes, we have thirteen....

by AlltheGreatQBs on Oct 17, 2010 3:35 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree on the offensive play-calling

Playing to NOT lose is no way maximize your chances for victory. This team was hopefully able to shake off the ghosts from the SC loss. THAT is what this victory was truly about.

Charles Martel, Charlemagne, William the Conqueror, Raymond IV the Count of Toulouse, Godfrey of Bouillon, Baldwin of Boulogne, Henry II, Richard the Lionheart, St. Joan of Arc and Napoleon Bonaparte -- all of good stock.

by TiderUpNorth on Oct 17, 2010 4:59 PM CDT reply actions  

McElroy: I’ll be honest, your attitude bothers me. You are the kid Barry Switzer was talking about when he said, “Some guys are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple.” Remember one thing, if only one thing, you are a C- quarterback on an A team. We have won a lot of games so you have been sheltered from the truth. You are Brian Bergdorf with a better supporting cast. You are Brian Bergdorf with a side of Lance Tucker. Remember that, Greg. You are the moderately bright student in the AP or Honors class (not a good analogy for Greg, but you get the point) who got a spot because his father threatened to sue the school and the principal is too conscious of his job to take a stand. Remember the next time you question your teammates’ commitment or talk arrogantly to a reporter or state that you’d rather be called “Field General”. To quote my QB Guru friend—who sends me texts MotherF’ing you every game (except for the SECCG in 2009)—Julio, Ingram, and Richardson laugh at you when you’re not around (I don’t know if that’s true, but I found it funny when I read it). Remember that Saban wanted to burn a true freshman quarterback’s redshirt at halftime of the LSU game last year because he doubted we could win with you at quarterback. He did. Without screen passes and checkdowns you’d complete two passes in ten attempts for eternity. So get a grip on yourself, brother. Your job has simply been not to screw up. This year, without a knockout D, you’re going to have to be a real quarterback. So let’s see something, Bergdorf/Tucker.

That’s a mean, critical, very harsh way of explaining Greg McElroy, but I must say I agree with every word of it. Sure it takes a hard line, but unpleasant truths are truths nevertheless. You might not like it, but criticizing it just because it’s not filled with a bunch of pretty words and a happy ending is simply not valid.

And, as an additional point, I’ll add that McElroy is quite fortunate to be paired up with a head coach who places such a high value on experience and stability at the quarterback position. Don’t kid yourselves, McCarron has more talent, more upside, and obviously much more long-term value to the program. A lot of coaches — hell, probably even most — would have McCarron starting right now.

"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman

by outsidethesidelines on Oct 17, 2010 8:58 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I'm thankful...

…that none of those coaches are our head coach, no matter how much upside our inexperienced backup QB has. If CNS starts McCarron against UT, I’ll support that move all the way. And if he starts McElroy, I’ll support that as well. McCarron certainly has more ‘upside’, but there’s a good bit of upside to starting the guy who’s been driving the bus to date as well. I’m not denying the possibility of any hypothetically bad results some claim may come from his continued play, but I’m still willing to put my faith in him if our HC is.

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Oct 17, 2010 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree with both of

you guys concerning GMac. I like the fact that he stayed at Bama, but not sure he had many options. He needs to realize he is not a Field General. Bart Starr was a Field General (he may have beeen before y’alls time.) Jay Barker may have been the best Field General in recent Bama days. A Field General can only win if he has a superior D behing him. And, a Field General, can if need be, take the team on his shoulders and carry them. Barker did that several times, Starr did it all the time. GMac did it on 1 drive vs. Aub. and against UF last year.
He sure did not do it against SC. And, although we won, he really didn’t do it against Arky or Ole Miss.

But the real point is our D is too young to have a Game Manager at QB. We will not beat LSU or Auburn with a Game Manager running our conservative, low scoring O. Our line is solid, we have good receivers, and a great RB’s. There can be only one source of our offensive woes. To beat LSU or Auburn we are going to at least need a JPW preformance.

As much as I hate Auburn I hate Tenn. that much more.

by 5026 on Oct 17, 2010 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Have you bumped your head?
need a JPW preformance.

Like his brilliant performance in the 4th qtr of the 2008 SECCG or his spastic fumble against FSU?

Unity begins with the understanding that everyone is different and to accept them as such. - Confucius

by skycaster on Oct 17, 2010 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

his touchdown pass in 05 vs Auburn!

late in the 4th…

"I guess I must stutter. Did I stutter? I'm not very clear on how I articulate. Maybe I need to go back to West Virginia and get some more hillbilly slang and maybe everybody can understand me a little better." - Nick Saban, because reporters haven't learned.

by BamaReturns07 on Oct 17, 2010 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

A Jay Barker performance...

would be more fitting. JPW will never be in the conversation about great QBs at Alabama.

Unity begins with the understanding that everyone is different and to accept them as such. - Confucius

by skycaster on Oct 17, 2010 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

It really says something about Bama's ability to get elite QBs

when JPW has most of the QB records…

"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath

by billycthulhu on Oct 17, 2010 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not to...

…disparage one of our own, but most of his records are measured in terms of total yards, points, etc., rather than per attempt, per game, etc. For instance, assuming McElroy starts the rest of the year, he will have played as many games in two years as most of our QBs did in three (those who were fortunate enough to play for three seasons). I don’t know if you noticed, but he passed Harry Gilmer and Walter Lewis this weekend on the career TD list, but he is still behind Freddie Kitchens. Ya gotta know how to read those things.

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Oct 18, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

True, didn't consider that

"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath

by billycthulhu on Oct 18, 2010 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was very mean

and that’s what compelled me to write the other post apologizing. I am sorry for being mean. I have a problem with bluntness sometimes.

"Open your mouth again and I'll nail it shut." Henriques, COMMANDO (1985).

by Bamagrad on Oct 17, 2010 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bluntness...

…and meanness are not the same thing. Mmm…blunt….

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Oct 17, 2010 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

some people

kill me……It was OLE MISS…..Bama never plays great against them and they probably never will! You cant measure this team by that game.

by Jasands50 on Oct 18, 2010 7:58 AM CDT reply actions  

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